MkLeo (Pyra/Mythra) vs Ouch!? (Wolf) - Ultimate Singles Winners Top 128 - Battle of BC 5

[@killerbeanfan64]

Bro died to a down air at 57 thats highway robbery. Good stuff from Ouch regardless…definitely shook up Leos confidence

[@angelcasasvalero8222]

72%*

[@free3793]

@@angelcasasvalero8222 no he died at 57

[@fromjahwluv]

tbf, if ouch landed that dair on leo at 20:24-ish, he also would've died at 50 something percent. leo also died sub 100% multiple times in the set. nothing to complain about really

[@rmlgaming2091]

rage..

[@Kirinowo]

@@fromjahwluv man that dair was literally 1 frame off...

[@spookyw_]

20:25 literally one frame off the down air connecting and Ouch winning this set. Absolutely insane

[@mjdevlog]

This Top 128 feels like Grand Finals fr

[@rospoho]

For the past 2 years, every time Leo picked up Aegis as his main character both his results and the support from the community dropped significantly, and yet he still force himself the character despite several proofs that he could still be top 1 with Joker and Byleth. This somehow convince me that he's at a point where he just doesn't really care as much as before to keet that #1 spot, he does whatever he has more fun doing.

[@justice8718]

Ironically, Tweek was the only one that convinced him to put her back into his character roster and take her more seriously.

[@silverpotato4272]

stop blaming the character when Leo gets outplayed ;-;

[@noice8911]

@@silverpotato4272 The results kinda speak for themselves

[@dennisd.4726]

I wish he would commit to byleth again. I genuinely think that was peak leo and it's definitely so much more fun to watch

[@KakinTseGamePlayer]

Looking at the most recent results, Leo’s only win (and at a P tier as well) is with Joker. All of Leo’s peak comes from Joker and Byleth. He has maybe a single major win with Aegis and besides that, he really doesn’t have the results for them at all. Not sure why he really wants to stick with them

[@StrawHatPuffy]

This match was more hype than all of top 8

[@depstrider]

Wow this is just sad. I don’t wanna say Leo robbed that game cause he is still one of the best but he just killed Ouch at 70 with up smash on FD

[@xenderfgc]

Rage probably helped

[@linkloyan4624]

@@dreggsmcgee7310 Dair but yeah, that’s insane

[@lloydaran]

FD shares its low ceiling with Yoshi's Story and Bastion.

[@iamCifu]

The better player won:]

[@SomeoneWhoAdmiresGod4453]

@@iamCifu ouch played better the entire game 5 tbh

[@finwar949]

One of the most intense and hype sets in all of ultimate.

[@phermion]

No way that wolf dair was literally 1 frame off of hitting last game

[@mjdevlog]

yeah for real😭😭

[@Ericspil790]

@@mjdevlog Aegis recover isn’t that vulnerable while grabbing the ledge

[@Contrary22]

Wolf Dair is soo bad. It's his only bad move, and it's really bad. 😅 It's like Falcon Punch. You wish you could unmap it.

[@mjdevlog]

@@Contrary22 the worse a move is, the more hype when it hits, especially the one with spikes

[@phermion]

@@Ericspil790 Yeah, Leo was a bit above ledge when he used side b, so he didn't have the 2 frames of ledgesnap vulnerability

[@Yo_soy_Annna]

I think they both played amazing. You could tell that Leo really turned it up at the end. CRAZY finish

[@ZZMoPper]

It's ridiculous how people discredit Leo. The guy has pretty much dominated ultimate having just a dip in the past couple months. This W is just one more in his extensive record of coming strong when the pressure is highest

[@illford]

I mean Leo is goated but this is such a robbery style win. You can't tell me dying to a dash attack at 50 is fair

[@whiskoo9941]

@@illford except ouch failed multiple free kills at sub 20% on leo because he cant land dair acrossed the entire set that cost him this W. yeah pythra is bs but playing top 10, 5 , 3, 1 players you cant be giving them that

[@watermel]

@@illford No the last kill at 70 was just ridiculous

[@DiseasedFrog]

I dont think many people thought he wasn't top 4 with Spargo, Acola and Tweek

[@justice8718]

@WaterME II The move has the amount of start up of a whale and Leo happened to be boosted with rage, which is shit Ouch abused in this set. If you want real Robbery, look at the Dabuz and Acola set. Why didn’t we ban Steve already.

[@paulgrewal4339]

Wow… great games from both sides. Congratulations on a great set to both.

[@ssbutiro9159]

no hate on leo, but that was such a heartbreaker :(. Really wanted ouch to win

[@modadv.s8992]

Unironically wolf is one of the main cast characters that can actually beat pythra but it’s even at most.

[@Bronster]

What an insane set, great watch

[@俺は誰でもない]

"leo we need you to spice things up a little, viewership is down" mkleo: aight

[@ProGamerish]

Ouch!? is insane and was playing OUT OF HIS MIND. Makes me proud to be a Wolf main. 😁

[@5hyguy42]

This was the best and worst set of the tournament. Seeing it live as a local was just incredible

[@pqaza_]

Mkleo did good, good job on pyra and mythra on winning!

[@illford]

HE DIED AT 50 !!! SOME INSANE BS

[@YamchaSama-Z]

Imagine replying to me and then deleting your comment. And stop bitching about the same shit throughout the entire comment section you bum.

[@angel_tck]

60 actually

[@PsychSaenz]

Leo smoking way too much weed lol.

[@mrb-btw]

my favorite leo john

[@Matthew_Ross]

Ouch!? played out of his mind game 4, but I'm glad MkLeo was able to move further up the winners bracket

[@cyprienramis1304]

Do not forget Oryon for the wolf mains with great results, he still is something like top 7 or 6 in europe.

[@A_K1ra_x]

Cool to know the smash community knows what Wong factor is

[@isaacluckett4365]

For a split second you can see ouches DI line which was up and out for the downair but then he kept holding when the up smash him and died plus rage

[@noahwright3519]

Man it’s game 5’s like that that are the reason Leo is my favorite player rn

[@omnifatt649]

Let’s gooo Leo

[@alanarriaga6204]

Aegis recovery is too much of a liability I’m a big Leo fan but even I can’t put him 1# when he’s getting taken to game 5 by players he should be taking out 3-1 at the very most

[@j.ovinnn]

Ouch is really good though but yea it feels like every time Leo’s off stage he’s on life alert

[@justice8718]

It feels like Leo is really unfamiliar with managing her off-stage game.

[@tak1539]

ゲームのキャラみたいに話をするな、人間やぞ

[@fullysemiautomatic5618]

@@justice8718 yeah a big part of the character is being good at recovering I feel like spargos and shutons aegis get gimped way less he just needs more practice

[@justice8718]

@@fullysemiautomatic5618 I have to say that Sora, Min-Min, and Steve are annoying because they have obnoxious and cheap advantage tools with disadvantage tools that help them escape to off-stage situations for free.

[@AremZzZ]

Y'all are so mad its hilarious

[@Ericspil790]

Aegis isn’t ok bro 😭

[@MoTH7370]

Agais is fair yall she's basicly just chrom with better tilts. Tbh Leo needs to drop them for their terrible off stage game and pick up byleth again

[@fahadalshaer5537]

I have nothing against leo but pyra must be nerfed. This character can kill at unreasonably low percentages.

[@baconbaconbobacon]

full rage on pyra that hits like a truck, gg's

[@Yolo-wp1oc]

Lowkey saw nothing crazy unfair this game even that 72% kill sort of balances out the amount of hits wolf took at nearly 200% from Pyra. GGs to both tho

[@illford]

The dash attack at 50 was pretty cheese

[@joshuadavis8265]

@@illfordeh, it was town

[@isaacnikolic5895]

Why tf is Pyrah's dash attack as powerful as an F smash? Also Game 5 smh.

[@jordanmcintosh4733]

I wanna see some Leo joker again i miss it

[@wonkyj7149]

how you forget larry lurr

[@toposhopmens]

A huevo leo ! Eres la onda !

[@Marisarabia3167]

I hate how the commentators always down play mkleo. He’s amazing and the best to watch

[@devilsephiroth9000]

Bro got his whole purse snatched.

[@xmaliciousntent7445]

Ouch laughing before game 4 said everything 🤣 💀

[@tak1539]

Ouchが上手いだけでLeoは何も悪くない

[@shaggy4769]

確かにふたりとも上手だけど、ouchが勝つところを見たかった

[@granturismo315]

That early kill tho?? Dang

[@reiarigato8559]

Landing a fair at 60 on the ledge kills with wolf, so say what you may but the read on the down air is what’s worth the biscuit. You don’t need a read to get a fair at ledge tbh

[@justice8718]

Why do people downplay wolf when he’s the original Mythra, but arguably far worse in his peak with how inherently degenerate his kit is?

[@FerretRay]

Well the thing is when wolf does that he legit also dies

[@jj6148]

@@FerretRay He does not die when he hits bair lmao

[@vvindicator]

Absolute Cheese Factory

[@ultralion5251]

Insane game but the fact that two of the games ouch!? Died to one hit at 50-60% is fucked. Pyra just be stealing stocks man

[@n10tan1gam1]

57..? Anyone?

[@meatroid5376]

Let’s be honest I don’t think Ouch deserved that loss. This is why I think Fighter Pass 2 did a horrible job designing the characters due to how overtone they are.

[@brinkleymelvin2671]

Bro is just him there’s no way around it

[@StaringBirdy]

Now that’s what you call stealing a game

[@GerardLESC]

LETS FHUGDBR GOOOOOOO mkleo crushing it again

[@Popinazo]

Amazing.

[@devinbinns19]

Wish Leo would bring back out the Corrin

[@yobbyyobby1764]

nah idc ouch played so much better shoulda gave him da win there

[@blu-jay4024]

That is plot armor irl

[@Iodestarr]

One of the few times Leo only won because of character. Sad stuff. Ouch outplayed a much better character and STILL lost to ezmode pyra :/

[@BryanMatias]

There aren't any better chars, just better players ✌️ ...well not entirely true but the char gaps aren't that large

[@Iodestarr]

@Bryan Matias so pyra/mythra vs. Gannon is practically even? Or pyra/mythra vs. link? Na man, you're wrong. Of course, player skill is the biggest factor, but when we're talking top-tier players, that's when character differences emerge. It's like that for every competitive game. That's why "metas" are a thing. Character gaps are not merely nominal peaks. Sorry frand ✌️

[@ManuelPersona24]

​​@@BryanMatiastill complaining? Leo got 13th like every low quality Aegis player should

[@Wips_]

je suis DE-GOU-TER

[@gabe_ssb]

he really did this shit just to lose to zomba smh

[@jhontaaan]

Mkleo is a mutant

[@soccerdude360]

Mk is just bored of these tournaments , my dude doesn't try anymore 😢

[@timlittlefield8486]

Ouch straight up outplayed leo. too bad aegis is horseshit

[@CristianGarcia]

Leo should bring back joker

[@vince615]

Plot armor

[@joshuadavis8265]

People crying about Leo killing at 72% when ouch killed leo at 76% on game 1

[@jabbysammich]

I think you mean game 4 rather than game 1. And a hard read edgeguard back-air kill at 76% on a stage with shorter side blast zones is very different than a raw upsmash at 72% on a stage with a tall blast zone

[@angel_tck]

⁠@@jabbysammich final destination's ceiling is actually one of the lower ceiling and it was a Pyra upsmash with rage

[@skyedgezero6265]

Let's go Leo!!!🎉 😂

[@baka_telas4266]

57% bro This char is bullshit

[@illford]

No way dash attack killed 💀

[@Obstakulizer]

Every move in god's hand is a killing move. Lmao

[@illford]

​@Ivan Ruiz gods hand? More like tge devil this character is just unfair. I'm not willing to be as nice to him after he just got cheesed, bro was getting cooked, he shouldn't have won. On any other one of his characters he probably wouldn't ot ay least it would've been harder. But he is playing a cheater character. He's obviously very good but that dash attack was braindead

[@purpsheik2975]

@@illford lmao cheater character hahaha xD

[@justice8718]

The moves with high risk and high rewards have high risk and high rewards? Oh my God! We need to give Wolf another low-risk option just so when a Wolf player gets fucked by an Ike by playing stupid, he’ll have more chances to win by spamming his buffed bair all day.

[@MoTH7370]

I'd say pyra and wolf are on equal footing. Wolf has good boxing tools and good off stage presence with lazer/nair and can kill more easily but P/M can just out combo/neutral/advantage wolf like a ton of other characters

[@bryce9083]

That was a gnarly set

[@salvatore_slate]

ouch is so good

[@user-uy4ot4ij3y]

i dont like how leo plays with pyra/mythera

[@wailmoregd140]

Ladies and gentlemen, the exact reason why you *NEVER* stop patching and balancing a game after releasing all the characters

[@antnxtndoor]

thats for games meant to be competitive

[@justice8718]

*Pyra is at 130% *Wolf is in the perfect 57% range for up-smash to connect *Its low-ceiling final destination Bro. This is an entire list of extremely specific circumstances.

[@fromjahwluv]

@@justice8718 they not trying to hear that though lol. all the people complaining about ouch dying at 50 something % before the hit aren't saying anything about leo almost dying at 50 something % around 20:24

[@justice8718]

They’re the kind of retards that act like Mythra getting an early kill from rare circumstances and situations is unfair. “ Mythra’s up-air kills you when she hits you on the ceiling? Patch it out, Nintendo. It’s unfair no matter what. I want her to have to only kill me that way if I’m 220%.” It’s fucking ridiculous.

[@lucasdelamarter6081]

Leo plot armor is legit the most boring shit in this game. I hate feeling so pessimistic because negativity kills enjoyment but the whole Leo plot armor thing lost its hype for me a long time ago. GG’s to both. It was a (mostly) entertaining set.

[@forthebigwin]

Ouch 3stocked game4 Leo....

[@rie442]

If I'm leo I'm not proud of that win. He was getting cooked. Obviously a win is a win but it's not even top 24 and he's barely keeping up. Can't be the best if that's how you're playing.

[@xenderfgc]

He won genisis with a similar situation against justice early on

[@Obstakulizer]

It's not leo's problem. It just how the Game works lol

[@rie442]

@@xenderfgc that set had me sweating bullets too but I'll excuse it since he struggles against min min and was genuinely outplaying him for the last 2 games. I mean it looked like he had every get up option locked up and his reaction time played a big part in it. As for here though I don't Want to say he got lucky or was carried but it definitely didn't feel deserved. However, a win is a win

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Acola felt off in the same way against dark wizzy and dabuz tbh. He still won, but he's not winning the tournament if he plays like that tomorrow. And Tweek...Tweek got bullied by Maister bro. Spargo is the only top 4 player who performed to his best, overcoming his bracket demon Muteace.

[@Godlovesugly.]

Shut up

[@Andrewdelarocha]

Eres la vrg mkleo

[@cheeher3212]

Leo is losing it.

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

Lol these commentators can be pretty biased

[@pokego19]

Leo knows he has competition and is not better than others. Ouch earned that game and should’ve won. Ggs to both of them tho

[@tannertroy7528]

It was a smart dair, ouch messed up once and payed the price

[@illford]

​@@tannertroy7528 nah but this character is omega cheese

[@grimxdisstracks3178]

Idc if he “ should’ve won” he’s gotta hold that L

[@tannertroy7528]

@@illford exactly, dont mess up.

[@ManuelPersona24]

​@@grimxdisstracks3178keep being b*chie

[@plabcentral630]

I hate anime swordfighters. Good on Leo tho.

[@TDawg45357]

Leo defeated more than just Ouch this set lol

[@Hugobside]

Robbed

[@charlyy1337]

Ouch played 10x better but ofc leo wins with the usual embarrassingly op dlc swordie 😂

[@sitalabudha104]

That leo guy is not inspirational at all