ML Drums Dwell - Based on DW Drums™ and Zildjian™ Cymbals

[@rotaryrevivalist5095]

This is the best sample pack yet. Can’t wait until I can pick it up.

[@PaulOrtiz]

Instantly bought, didn't even listen to the demos. I've got a lot of drums; Ultimate Heavy Drums, all the OKWs, GGD M&M/Invastion, Mixwave, Superior 3 with _almost_ everything. But these kits are just great to load up and get writing with. Virtually no mixing required and I love how easy it is to swap out drums from different libraries. With other drums you have to save kits that only have the shells, or the cymbals, or whatever, then mess around with track stacks/midi sends/whatever. Dwell sounds incredible, just playing with it now. My only request (and I've mentioned this over email) would be a built in velocity curve processor. It's a bit tricky to access softer hits/ghost notes on my keyboard by default. Also Ultimate Heavy Drums incorporated a one shot custom sample loader for the kick and snare. Something like this would be amazing. Either way, awesome work as usual. 100% recommend this kit.

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you for the feedback Paul - many of the things you mentioned we're already thinking about solving so good to get confirmation. :) Also those are some super nice words too!

[@wcarballeira]

@@mlsoundlabI always mention make TCI files, sample those parts with as much layer as you can so we can use them also with trigger software

[@Ludo_A]

Same here.

[@Metaljonus]

Chimppppppp

[@luisguimaraes2176]

TCI files will be an awesome bonus for these expansions

[@seanvgmusic3630]

This is the only drum vst developer where the drum sounds match EXACTLY the picture/GUI expectations at first look! It's both inspiring visually and audibly! And I really appreciate these kind gestures especially Mikko by taking the time to actually video and demo the sounds. It really takes away your doubts when deciding to buy. The customer support is also kind, acknowledging and responsive! Soooo rare and honest! Happy Yamz user here btw! 🥁 You guys rock!

[@mlsoundlab]

You're the best! Thanks for dropping a comment 💞 -Kai

[@Brockstar]

BEST toms EVER! Cymbals are also amazing! The spaciality of the cymbals is unparalleled!

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you! 🙏 -Kai

[@greenlionaudio]

Honey wake up! There's a new ML Drums kit out!

[@mlsoundlab]

Ring the alarm! -Kai

[@Tryggvasson]

2 snares, 2 hi-hats, and a full set of five toms to add to the collection! and they sound great. particularly like the room. gotta buy it. i'll be waiting for a promo, though, cause there's so many things to buy on the list. great job, anyway!

[@thehappybaptist5468]

that third crash is SO WASHY AND CLEAN. love it, Mikko!

[@mlsoundlab]

More wash+clean than most laundromats! 🥶 -Kai

[@s0t33W]

Sounds great, will definitely add these to my collection! IMO it would be awesome, if you added different tuning options for the toms too in future releases!

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you for the suggestion, and I hope you enjoy the Dwell pack! 🙏 -Kai

[@datutturugang666]

the maple snare cranked up sounds like a 9mm next to your ear. hell yeah

[@x-Gingerbeard-x]

Awesome sounding library! Congrats!!

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you so much! -Kai

[@x-Gingerbeard-x]

@@mlsoundlab Bought it right away! Just a question, I know a lot of people including myself have been asking for a Groove Player to be included in ML Drums, will it be added eventually? I feel it's the only thing missing from this! Also, another suggestion for future updates: Can we please get a Tama SLP Bronze Snare 14''x5.5''? That snare is holy grail material!

[@DevinJamesMetal]

Awesome sounding library man!!!

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you! -Kai

[@aldrinsereno]

That snare tho!

[@mlsoundlab]

IT CRACKS ME UP!! 😋

[@sonidojamon]

both snares sound ridicolously good!!

[@joeyvpoisonfree]

Looking good my friend

[@musicfreak7752]

Thank you for another great sounding drums for a great price, guys! 😉🤙

[@mlsoundlab]

Thanks for checking it out! -Kai

[@jimbo121]

Full bodied snare sounds that require zero post processing. Very fun to jam with my E-kit! Great "insta buy" pack for sure.

[@mlsoundlab]

That is what we love to hear 🤲 -Kai

[@kirillstolerov6899]

man you have one of best snares in industry! awesome, especially low tunings!!! 320hz is heaven too!

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you kindly 🥰 ~320Hz is my personal happy place with snares, I always love them right around that spot. -Kai

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

I would like to have a rimshot articulation. - Please. ... And ... no-wires, and off-center, edge ... hahaha. And then this pack will be $180 like the big T.

[@davidvierabarreras]

I love the sound of DW, I'll give it a try! As an active user of ML Drums, I reiterate my requests/suggestions, if anyone else is encouraged to comment on this, I think this can also be a good user suggestion guide for the ML Sound Lab team. 1. Import samples to achieve sonic reinforcement (very typical in ALL genres nowadays, especially in the bass drum and snare) and to be able to have some independent control of them. I would love to be able to directly mix a sparkling and shimmering semi-electronic kick drum with the natural sound of ML Drums. 2. Although NOTHING replaces the real tuning (as you do with snares in different tunings) it would be good and necessary to incorporate a pitch tune for each piece. 3. Maintain the modular concept (as before) as much as possible and the cohesion of all pieces 😁

[@mlsoundlab]

Thanks for asking about it David! We're always listening to requests like this - adding a sample pad is something we've spoken about before, we're still asking around to gauge the support for it, but it could be on the cards in a future update. As for your second request, I think it's unlikely that we'll add fake pitch shifting into the plugin, but it's also not an impossibility. We absolutely plan to keep the modular concept with all pieces working together though - that's a huge part of the ML Drums platform. -Kai

[@zMPHz]

Sounds great! 👌

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you so much! -Kai

[@morgan3149]

Instant buy as usual ! The Cymbals are awesome. Great addition to Yamz ones. The toms and kick are great, some mix with the Tama kit I love is expected ! Maybe one of those two snares will manage to replace my Ludwig Hammered Bronze !!! I hope so ! I love wood snares too, bubinga snare next expansion pleeeeaaase !!! Thanks a lot for you hard work and dedication to drums (drum-nerd here too) ! ML drums is my go to go drum sound since purchasing everything earlier this year in February around when Grit was released I think. Never looked back ! Cheers from France :)

[@mlsoundlab]

Glad to hear you're loving it! We're very happy that the packs are merging nicely - it's a huge part of the platform, and a big reason why we went for our own first-party loader. 🙏 -Kai

[@morgan3149]

@@mlsoundlab OK the DW Craviotto Solid Shell Maple 14"x5,5 at high tuning is my new favorite snare ! Remind of those 90's Black Metal snares like Dissection and early 2000's melodeath with Character/Fiction from Dark Tranquillity at med and high tuning. Love them soooo much. Well done guys !

[@arturoernesto7983]

Great to have DW, king of kings in ML Drums. Love the sound! But one question , when do you plan to update the host software? One of the things I miss a lot in ML Drums is not having some slots, to incorporate my own samples, either as reinforcement layers on the snare or kick drum, or to have at least a couple of specific complementary sounds, like slaps, snaps, etc. It would be WONDERFUL to have all this through ML Drums and not have to resort to other channels and individual instruments, all together in the same piano roll and processed through ML Drums... Please think about it, I don't think it would be very difficult to incorporate and it would open infinite possibilities of modulation and customization.

[@_hide_-lb1gk]

As usual it sounds great but I wish you guys would do more velocities on the snare.

[@MC-og5ss]

I couldn't find anything on that topic. Sorry if I missed it. How does the humanize function work? I assume it is not just a velocity randomizer. Can you elaborate a bit on what it does to achieve perceived humanization?

[@mlsoundlab]

We've done a video on the humaniser before, but essentially it shuffles the velocities a little and adjusts the timing, based on the MIDI it's receiving. Super-fast snare rolls will be humanised harder than a single snare hit to mimic more closely how a real drummer would play. It's not a 1:1 substitute for humanising the MIDI yourself, but it's enough to stop you from hearing the super-fake machine-gun effects and get a solid basis down for a demo. -Kai

[@MC-og5ss]

@@mlsoundlab Thanks Kai. I just sent a ticket. ML Drums is not working properly anymore for me. Every time I want to slect something from one of the pop-out menus, the whole menu closes. Would be great if you could look into that.

[@TreyXanthean-c5h]

oh yea!!!!!!! getting those asap!! and.................... purchased, KIITOS MIKKO!

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you! 💪 -Kai

[@gracianosounds]

The best drum VSTi EVER!

[@mlsoundlab]

That's some huge praise, thank you! 💪 -Kai

[@beandrums1stickmanroland547]

New to this product and have a few questions …… the dwell kit only has three (3) crashes but I use four (4) crashes and a China. Does it have a cross stick sound and is there any cowbells available ? Is there a support page or contact number for support ?

[@mlsoundlab]

Thanks for dropping a comment - no cross stick, no cowbells available at this time. No ML Drums expansion packs currently have four crashes, the maximum is 3 (and two chinas). -Kai

[@pinelybones]

Already bought it, I love love love that higher-tuned 8” tom 😄 my only takeaway is that I wish we could pan individual cymbals around the kit, is that something that could be possible in the future

[@mlsoundlab]

It's something we've been asked about a few times, I think we'd sooner give users the option to move cymbals to different slots rather than a full control panning situation, but I can't say for sure if it'll happen. -Kai

[@pinelybones]

@@mlsoundlab oh snap! That’d be awesome too 🤙🤙

[@Ludo_A]

Just bought them! Great work! With ML Drums my VAD507/TD27 really rocks. Please make it possible to put the libraries to external SSD and not only HD/SSD in laptop.

[@mlsoundlab]

Thank you for the suggestion! This is something we're talking about, totally understand the desire for it. 💪 -Kai

[@toddcollins6746]

Gonna buy this. Between this and Grit, I honestly don’t think I need anything else.

[@greenlionaudio]

You need Yamz. I don't know who you are but you do need it.

[@toddcollins6746]

@@greenlionaudioyou like Yamz better than Dwell? I love Grit.

[@mlsoundlab]

Ooooh man, Dwell vs Yamz is a hard call! Definitely worth taking a look at the Yamz kit if you like a kick with some monstrous impact. -Kai

[@toddcollins6746]

@@mlsoundlab Thanks Kai!

[@alex_biyo]

Incredible kit! Would love to be able to adjust the tuning or pitch of the toms at some point, think that can be implemented in a future update?

[@mlsoundlab]

Always a possibility! -Kai

[@roberttomonyiczka6287]

Hi Mikko! You guys make great stuff. Will the AAX versions ever work on windows? Thanks in advance for your answer!

[@mlsoundlab]

Not something I'm able to talk about with any certainty I'm afraid, but I can say we don't currently have active plans to make ML Drums compatible with Pro Tools for Windows. -Kai

[@kosmajahn2877]

Oh Yeah! I’m gonna buy this one, do you have any discount incoming? 😅

[@danthemanmillan]

definitely picking this up!

[@mlsoundlab]

Enjoy! -Kai

[@danthemanmillan]

@@mlsoundlab Hey just got it and wanted to know if its possible to move the china over to the right side? Im assuming the one in the video is from another pack? Would like it on the right side for the stereo mix

[@jnbovee]

I wouldn't mind a tight tech-death kit next haha

[@Sven.Jeschke]

+1 for some more extreme Metal stuff!

[@mlsoundlab]

I need this to happen, if only as an excuse to see Mikko playing some tech death 🧐 -Kai

[@Sven.Jeschke]

@@mlsoundlab Now that I've tried out the library a bit, I can say that it's certainly the most "Metal" sounding one so far. The "Modern Metal" preset pretty much nails it. Love it!

[@rotaryrevivalist5095]

Still need you guys to go steal the Sleep Token II snare and sample it. I’ll buy it stand alone 😂. Keep up the great work man. IMO the best and most user friendly drum library around!

[@mlsoundlab]

I'll need some help planning the heist of II's snare, but I'm sure I can find a good crew.. 🤔 Thanks for the kind words! -Kai

[@luisguimaraes2176]

It's a high pitched snare with either a 1176 style comp with a really fast attack or use a transient designer with high attack and almost no sustain

[@rotaryrevivalist5095]

@@luisguimaraes2176 I’m very new to recording and making my own music so everything you said is way above my head lol, but I really enjoy whatever it is lol. I keep watching his Drumeo performances over and over.

[@chinox1996]

Is there any note mapping available for the ML drums ? It would make my life easier

[@mlsoundlab]

There are multiple different mapping options in the settings menu of ML Drums - if you're instead asking for a list of the default mappings, please send us an email and we'll help you out! -Kai

[@t.n.7328]

I bought the set and it is not even displayed in the ML Drums program. I activated the license there and installed Dwell properly. My PC is also connected to the Internet. What is the problem? Why is it not displayed under the menu item "Shop"?

[@jhonkela]

what is the version of the MLDrums itself you are using? Have you tried restarting the app? In any case, if problems continue, I’d recommend getting the latest version, which probably is 2.3.2 and first remove and then reinstall the packages.

[@t.n.7328]

@@jhonkela Doesn't the request key change when I uninstall the "old version" and reinstall the "new version"? Because all the extensions I have bought are bound to this request key, right? Also, when I downloaded it again, it shows me that it is the same version 2.3.0.

[@jhonkela]

@@t.n.7328 reinstalling does not invalidate the keys. btw, have you installed the instruments to a non-default location originally?

[@robbeaertscomposer]

What would be nice is if one could insert third party vts on the mix page, there are vsts that can host third party vsts like Blue Cat's patchwork.

[@mlsoundlab]

You can split the mixer tab out into multiple outputs on your DAW, allowing you to run plugins on each track as you were hoping to do. It's a cool idea to have them hosted inside the plugin, I get that it'd make presets a lot easier, but the work involved for compatibility would likely be too great for a team of our size. Not ruling it out though, of course! -Kai

[@koreygeerdes]

Any way to use these with Slate Trigger 2?

[@mlsoundlab]

Not currently, thanks for asking about it though! -Kai

[@richb2545]

Love you stuff, hopefully this pack has a little more dynamic range in the samples? The luxe and the essentials sound great but you practically have to lower the velocity to 20 or below before they even start to chill out, importing midi from SD or GGD loses all dynamics and turns every hit into a full velocity smack. Gonna buy it right now, because for the most part I still love the sounds and recently updated mixer, keep up the good work!!

[@mlsoundlab]

We're looking into the possibility of adding velocity curves to cure such issues - it's less an issue with the samples themselves, and more about how different companies place the samples across the velocity ranges. Some companies have their ghost notes at 50 and near silence at 10, other companies have a fair hit at 50 and ghost notes at 10. -Kai

[@lunarfifthstudios]

I just made a new song with ML drums that my brother really likes, I am excited to check out these new sounds! Weird question - can I re-order the toms slightly differently? My real drum set has the rack toms from larger to smaller, left to right (I know) and I would love to set ML Drums up that way too... Either way, these new samples sound great. 👍

[@jhonkela]

the order in the UI - no. But you can use the panning in the mixer to probably achieve what you need from the soundscape point of view.

[@michaelpendergrass6401]

Pretty cool unfortunatley i cant use ML drums because the toms are still on 1 channel with multiout. I love the sound of ML drums but i need them toms seperated in the mixer

[@mlsoundlab]

Thanks for the feedback - sorry that this is the dealbreaker for you. 🙏 -Kai

[@carlosfrancisco5759]

I would like to see one more tom in addition to the existing 5, but I know that will involve some other small changes to the mix panel. I am a fan of black metal music. I know that ML drums is leaning towards rock music. Although I have bought all the expansions so far, to get something personalized, I try to differentiate myself in some way. This pack hasn't helped much for what I'm looking for yet. I'll wait for the next pack releases.

[@mlsoundlab]

We've added toms before - the ML Drums plugin launched with two rack toms, two floor toms, and no panning options. Additional toms could be on the cards, you never know! -Kai

[@davidvierabarreras]

@@mlsoundlab What about to include some "extra slots" to add pieces from the others packs? Despite the room differences, will be great to have this option!

[@ArgonautDrums]

Bought 🤘

[@mlsoundlab]

Yesss! Let us know what you think of them once you've tried them out in context 💪 -Kai

[@MikeOxmall-6]

mikoo, Amped Badlanderr PLZZ :))

[@deans.4705]

wow, and still no snare edge, rimshot, L/R articulations.....

[@Christian_S.1209]

Oh no here goes my money again…

[@mlsoundlab]

Money is temporary - great drums will last forever. 😇 -Kai

[@musicfreak7752]

@@mlsoundlab That´s a big truth! 😁👍