Brian Kenny's Thoughts on Tyler O'Neill Situation

Brian Kenny opens today's MLB Now with an essay on the Cardinals and Tyler O'Neill.
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[@ctaney2254]

Real ones know this guy plays super hard 99% of the time and has never really had issues with effort. If it’s a first time thing I don’t think a coach should go public to send a message, O’Neill has every right to be upset

[@JVJsports]

Or maybe he knew it wasn't the smartest move to try and run on Acuna and didn't expect to be sent home

[@ICU2B4UDO]

That's what he said...He wasn't expecting to be waved home because of Acuna's arm and it wasn't that deep a shot to begin with...

[@shawno7448]

the third base coach hesitated to send him. You're right the ball was not hit that deep and Acuna has a good arm. Marmol caused a division in the team by saying things publicly instead of having a one on one discussion. I feel the cardinals need a new manager. I am not a fan of marmol @@ICU2B4UDO

[@ByronWarfield]

Are we forgetting he's running on Ronald Acuña Jr? He's a MVP candidate, bona fide 5 tool player! I guarantee you none of the Braves' division rival 3B coaches would send their runner against that arm! He was throwing almost 93 on a zip line to Murphy. In my opinion the Redbirds Coaching staff should've known better.

[@jeremiah_12]

They didn’t and that’s on them. At least my Braves caused a little rift in the Cardinals club😂. Poor Redbirds😕. Braves did what they had to do.

[@waylonmercy1533]

Everyone is being sent no matter the outfield arm in that situation. There were 2 outs so he was running on contact.

[@Jop278]

@@jeremiah_12 Braves swept em easily and Olson is showing why AA is the best GM in the league. Freddie Freeman go have your fun in LA while the Dodgers get run over by the Padres and maybe even the Dbacks lol. Love Freddie but what a call to go out and get Olson who was just stuck in a shit show in the shitty state of California.

[@Jop278]

I think he was throwing to Murphy which kinda makes it more intimidating when Murph is like 6'4 with a huge wingspan lol but you're right on the rest of it.

[@larryclark1356]

@@waylonmercy1533 Exactly why Tyler shouldn't have been sent, two outs and behind by three runs, that run meant nothing. Marmol was out of line for not talking to O'Neill privately.

[@the-phanatic-99]

you should have talked about his time from 2nd to 3rd. then 3rd to home. where was Tyler when Acuna got the ball. and would his best time even beaten the slightly delayed throw of Acuna. because acuna was even surprised he was sent. Pop warner then sent goldy home the next game and he was easily thrown out

[@jrouillard44]

Thank you. People are bashing oneill and no one is talking about the third base coach who sent him against ACUNA! I was at the game and acuna already had the ball in his hand when Oneill was at third

[@the-phanatic-99]

@@jrouillard44 ya man. i don’t get it. i feel like tyler was sticking at 3rd if it was his choice. then saw pop and picked it up a hair. kinda weird that no one is talking about that. then goldy got thrown out next game on a similar type of situation?!

[@markeastridge9649]

@@the-phanatic-99 no doubt. Totally agree. TON knew it was scooting one bag advance. I have watched or listened to about every inning Pop has been at third. Never once have I head or thought ‘Pop saved us one!”… but tons of WTF gambles and stop signs. If base coaching is an art, he ain’t no Picasso, maybe not even Bill Keene. (Family Circus cartoonist) ..side note: Oli featured in a video ‘giving’ Jordan Walker a job in his office. I thought, oh shit, Cards building Oli’s resume to the fan base by glamor.

[@the-phanatic-99]

@@markeastridge9649 i don’t dislike oli. i think this was a miscue but i tell ya what. his bullpen management has to get better and fast. i don’t get what they are trying to do with them but it ain’t working. and ya pop is not great. its annoying

[@johnhannon2009]

@@jrouillard44 The people defending Marmol are wrong. They need to be mad at Pop Warner for sending him, it was a bad call on his part period.

[@JBullock54]

“Robinson Cano played 159 games a year.” Yeah PED’s help with reducing injury dude

[@captaino16]

Those years were before his... multiple... suspensions, yet during the strict drug testing policy. Give him the benefit of the doubt for that

[@JBullock54]

@@captaino16 so what makes you think he wasn’t getting away with it before then?

[@vitoonto]

Best kept in the clubhouse. Not necessary to publicly embarrass the player.

[@ByronWarfield]

💯 If I was manager, I'd bench him, and tell the press nothing more than he's nursing a injury. Oli messed up bad, imo.

[@kywrld8317]

Especially after 6 games of the season

[@Garcusmarvey]

Facts

[@MrTwessel30]

Nah, these are adults. They should be held accountable. He absolutely, spoke to Oneill before talking to the press. This same situation happened last year with Bader. It was a non story cause Bader agreed he was in the wrong and felt the need to apologize.

[@larryclark1356]

@@MrTwessel30 Bader got traded, any connection? I disagree. An adult manager would have kept it in house, period.

[@GoldStarThrifter-Robert]

Did the stat cast take into consideration it had rained earlier and the 4 tenths might have been a result of that?

[@Diego-yl2ri]

You must have missed the part where he said there are/were a lot of variables.

[@joshuapatrick682]

What are Tyler Oneill’s thoughts on Kenney’s spray tan?

[@SaltyMike396]

Running is the only easy part of baseball. No excuse not to run your fastest.

[@michaelallen1154]

@MJS... Do you understand how wet that field was? It isn't possible to make a 90° turn on a soaked sports field at that speed without decelerating... Unless you want to risk hitting your ass on the ground.

[@SaltyMike396]

@@michaelallen1154 no one else was having any problems. That dude was slacking, and that's all there is to it. It was very obvious. No excuses for not hustling.

[@michaelallen1154]

@@SaltyMike396 fallacious argument. You might as well be comparing this specific situation to a ghost. This situation was not replicated at any other point in the ball game for an actual comparison.

[@SaltyMike396]

@@michaelallen1154 running. No one had any problems with running. Argue all you want to, but his own manager agrees with me. He deserved an ass chewing, and that's what he got. He'll be a better player because of it.

[@joshuapatrick682]

Also, the Cardinals are one of my favorite sports teams period, but they seem to take for granted winning the central, and this year I don’t think that’s a given…

[@tomlehmann306]

Starting pitching is a big problem

[@JobiWan144]

I don't think that they take the division for granted, but they're still the odds-on favorite. It's their division to lose, just like the NL East was the Mets' division to lose last year.

[@SpencerArinhaveamom]

Great video, great breakdown.

[@23ofSeptember]

I always find it odd how in sports like hockey, basketball, football, even soccer, players (starters anyways) make mistakes and yet they stay in the game. However, in baseball (not so much at the MLB level) but in the lower leagues, players get benched all the time for little mistakes. I drove me crazy because I hated it when coaches yelled and screamed and then benched you. Then the whole team is against you.

[@robertcrist5747]

Wish they'd gave Head Coach to Skip Schumacher instead of Marmol. He never played in the Majors and it showed in last year's playoffs with how he handled Quintana and Helsley! It was classless that he handled it in the media instead of being a man and a Coach and taking care of it in house.

[@terrytrammell]

I’m with you. Oli won’t do it now but he should pull Tyler in and apologize. It takes a man to say you were wrong & you made a mistake. The ball was hit right to Acuna & all he had to do was unload on it to Murphy. No contest.

[@thescottishlion]

Less than half of a second off... "That's a big drop off"🤣🤣🤣

[@TheBenedictchan1]

It is when he was thrown out by a fraction of second.

[@bradfrerichs9159]

I love the move!

[@wbaldwin666]

Sparky Anderson said you yell at your team when theyre playing consistently well but do stupid things/don't hustle in a game... when they're doing bad/struggling you talk to them, no yelling no throwing chairs etc.

[@truethought2581]

Don't hustle, don't play. I'm sure there are other players either in the dug out or minor league that will hustle. No hustle, no play.

[@jonseals]

Great take Brian. Marmol's explanation to the media wasn't a big deal. The only person who didn't handle this well was Tyler O'Neill. He's the one who made it a story. O'Neill plays on the same team with Paul Goldschmidt and Nolan Arenado. Those guys get there early, work their (tails) off, leave late, and never complain to the media. If O'Neill wants to be on their level, he needs to take responsibility for his actions, apologize to his teammates, and shut up about it.

[@vitoonto]

How do you know that O'Neill doesn't work his tail off? Are you part of the organization? The media should have no idea that they even spoke about it. The manager should have kept it in house

[@reorulz]

Yeah no Oli made it a story sorry, his words were extremely condemning and the media went to Tyler immediately after those comments. Then Marmol doubled down EVEN FURTHER the following day. It's not everyday a manager calls out a player so publicly and it simply gets ignored. The Nolan comparison is hilarious, you can count the numerous occasions Nolan has dogged a ground ball to the infield. Hell Yadi did it frequently as well, but since they're veterans it's okay.

[@jimg7318]

I don’t think O’nell thought he was going to be sent home. They were down by 3 runs with two outs. His run didn’t mean a thing in that situation. Why take a chance against one of the best arms in baseball. Marmol was wrong as was the third base coach.

[@23ofSeptember]

Sometimes guys go too hard. Like Brett Lawrie trying to steal home with the bases loaded and Jose Bautista at bat.

[@markeastridge9649]

Alternative version: Pop Warner is a twit of a third base coach. Marmol too thick to get this.

[@kidcanuck6031]

You never want to make the third out of an inning at 3rd base or home plate. You don't send a runner home in this situation so it's the 3rd base coaches fault. The score was 4-1 bottom of seven so you need more than one run to get back in the game. Tying run comes to the plate if the runner stays at 3rd base. Homer then ties the game.

[@BobbyBoucher228]

Agreed, if O’Neill’s run is the tying run then maybe you take the chance with Acura’s arm, but with the amount of pop in this lineup with a three run deficit there is no reason to take that chance down by three in the 7th.

[@kidcanuck6031]

@@BobbyBoucher228 Exactly.

[@ulisesnunez6313]

Gotta hustle every time unless the first baseman catches your grounder and is very close to the base. Other than that, you have to go all out all the time! If you don't want to go hard because you "might get injured," then sit down and let those who aren't afraid of injury play!

[@MyGunz69]

O'Neill has been on the DL so many times over the last number of years this is probably just a result of that frustration that the coaching staff and organization as built up regarding over time.

[@ZeJong-hm6bt]

Cards from office evaluation of players have been poor; Alcantara, Adolis, Gallen, Arozarena. As a card fan, uggh.

[@doseofstos]

I understand being upset with a player who doesn’t hustle but truly you can’t tell me he wasn’t trying to run hard. Maybe he hesitated at 3rd because he knew it would be a bang bang play at home.

[@moose7266]

Manager did it right. Hold them accountable

[@mikephalen3162]

Whose holding base coach accountable?

[@brenthummel7243]

I’ve loved Tyler O’Neill since his first game in spring training. I loved shildt for being for his players. Cardinals have been doing dumb things since they’ve fired shildt from coaching his 3rd year.

[@mixehy2060]

Why was bro sent, third base coach just wanted manager to cover his ass 😂

[@djl9919]

I guess the new standard is to call your players out for everyone to hear. that's the new Cardinals way. the manager did not hustle from yesterday's loss. your to blame Marmol, next game do your job better

[@jasoncarroll8803]

Home plate umpire's out call is the best part of that play.

[@raymondflores1583]

Anybody who looks at this situation and doesn’t come out thinking 1. 3rd base coach shouldn’t have sent him home knowing acunas arm power 2. Oli handled this incredibly unprofessionally (sometimes non ex-players overcompensate by doing shit like this)and 3. Tyler o neil ran half a second below his average which doesn’t indicate he was trying, he just didn’t expect his 3rd base to send him home and hesitated plus it rained earlier. Cardinals gonna end up trading him and he’s gonna help another franchise make a playoff run just like bader last year.

[@glennbrown9960]

Brian Kenny is symbolic of our country. Only work hard when it is cost effective to do so. This guy is Mr Analytic , I pay a guy 1 million or 30 million a year I expect and demand effort every day. As some 19 yr old soldier if cost benefit analysis comes into play during training , if you train lazy you will work lazy. To me O Neil plays hard , the standard seems to be for Cardinals this year is losing

[@uberknife]

Can statcast tell me: If O'neill runs the 6.94 second-to-home he averaged last season, would he have been safe?

[@Crispy44652]

Now O’Neill has to fight this narrative his entire career. I don’t think he’s a guy that doesn’t hustle and I’m a Reds fan. Manager should’ve kept it in house.

[@dustinkoca4765]

Brian is very good at what he does.

[@chrislewis5069]

I’m glad you like him. I think Brian Kenny is a good person but never has had a good grasp on what matters and the real science and tradition behind the game. He’s gotten better though but there’s a clear difference between understanding stats and understanding the game and game situations

[@nolanleahy4260]

While O'Neill could've busted it harder and more than likely would've scored had he been up to full speed, I don't blame him for trying to take it easy, but you take it easy going home to 1st or 1st to 2nd, not 2nd to home. But also Oli should've just kept this a private issue. It's too early in the season to be making waves. Maybe if its August you do this but in April? Both sides have their issues, and both are right in a way.

[@MikeSmith-rx4uz]

I dont think you have to bust it down the line on a walk like rose did but, busting ass is a great style of play everyone loves to see it. So that being said marmol should have kept it on house

[@Lord_Vadr]

This is on Marmol. He was barely slugging it. No one in their right mind would have expected to be sent home against Acuña in that situation. And managers shouldn’t be calling out players in front of the media after a single offense. That tells me there is more to the story. And if that is the case, the manager is using his position to sort of damage the player. Either way, classless movie by Marmol.

[@bennygarcia1913]

Imagine not expecting athletes to run during a game

[@powerhitter033]

Okay. Now go a step further. He was out by more than 0.4 seconds.

[@baseballworldwide9439]

Nobody cares. Run

[@powerhitter033]

@@baseballworldwide9439 So you would send him on Acuna?

[@baseballworldwide9439]

@@powerhitter033 no, but if I did you better run

[@powerhitter033]

@@baseballworldwide9439 Your argument is irrelevant then.

[@baseballworldwide9439]

@@powerhitter033 it actually isn’t lmao but jumping to such a conclusion leads me to believe this is a pointless argument. Take your sped dub bro

[@joshuapatrick682]

Also, don’t ya just love baseball. The Braves are gonna win 125 games this year and lose in 4 in the LDS to the Giants or diamondbacks or something weird..

[@chrislewis5069]

Nobody ever said anything to cano or other good players that dawg it. You don’t not hustle because you could get injured. If you play sports but you can’t play hard, what’s the point. We have to stop trying to play smarter instead of harder. It’s simple, play hard but don’t take dumb risks. You don’t have to dawg it to play smart.

[@jondoe-jr3tl]

He's hit the IL more than once with a pulled hammy multiple times. Why? Because he busts his ass sprinting all the time. In the post game he mentions working with the trainers on improving run mechanics to avoid future injury. He got a caught a bit in between and in his head with this and this was the result. This never should have been aired publicly. Oli handled this the wrong way and I hope it doesn't affect the rest of the clubhouse. Really bad look.

[@cadeholkum7406]

100% agree

[@tchevrier]

"and what do you pick up? 1 base". - no, you pick up an out. That can be very valuable. His running style seems very deceptive. It looks like he's running slow. Probably because he doesn't have a high leg kick. It's almost like he's shuffling along.

[@williamheizer1891]

The board needs a new CEO, manager, and general manager !

[@CristopherSmith-zr7uh]

Love the breakdown. You play to win the game.

[@slo232000]

don't care how poorly he was running there, marmol's actions were way out of line to publicly bash his own player and then follow-up with a benching over the situation. Completely unprofessional and if he was even a half decent coach he would have done this behind closed doors and kept his media response generic to any issues he saw. This is a great way to earn distrust with your team.

[@gabeallen8179]

If you're going to do STATCAST on the base running speeds, why not have a statistician give you the skinny on running hard to first and the frequency of injury at first base? Instead he was waxing in generalities when it came to that and really took away from the point he was trying to make.

[@ArtHistoryNstuff332]

These guys that are out-hustling everyone else is how it should be, not the outlier.

[@kbonics25]

O'Neill just got beat out by a good throw from the opposite outfield play by Acuña Jr. regardless of the 85-90% effort on the play

[@Lance-Stroll]

I think, he thinks it's only 3rd base. Then he's sent home and out.

[@codyfowler6204]

In O’Neil’s defense he has a unique running style. He’s super fast but doesn’t look it and seems to run effortlessly. In terms of the time being below his standard, he got a bad jump and probably assumed he would get held because the ball was hard hit and to Acuna, who has a cannon. Unless there’s a backstory to O’Neil’s effort, and there probably is, it seems like a weird move for Marmol to publicly out him.

[@Banana69999]

That’s dumb, does it factor in if a player has a bum knee or not?

[@SG-jm7np]

I get it, but that 3rd base coach was dumb for sending him.

[@catchingupwithchubs9561]

Imagine saying the Dodgers, Padres and Mets are the favorites to win, not not the Braves, the team that caused this segment to happen lmao.

[@THRILL606]

Manager is a clown for making it public regardless of the issue.

[@chrisweidner4768]

Elephant in the room is the horrible third base coach. Same thing happened the next game with Goldy. Thrown out by a mile.

[@stephanhart9941]

He's done it before, just last year, and Harrison Bader is with the Yankees because of it. The guy is a classless Neanderthal. Send O'Neil to Boston. I'd love to have him!

[@elcee3292]

I'm one of the few that actually thinks he took that stuff accidentally. Primarily because then Tatis seemed like a very reckless, immature person that wouldn't bother to check. These 20 year olds today are so much more immature, and their immaturity/recklessness is only exacerbated by money

[@loganjohnson8773]

.4 seconds slower from 2nd to home. 4 tenths of a second.

[@billb3454]

Guys making millions and you say they shouldn’t run hard for 90 feet to first base? Ok

[@randymarsh6564]

Broneill admitted he messed up. He 'll be aight.

[@danielfinke6677]

Down three with two outs he should have never been sent… especially with Acuna in right field. That’s the root cause, and that’s what TO was thinking going into 3rd. This is a coaching mistake and terrible handling by a manager that’s in over his head.

[@ICU2B4UDO]

0.37 seconds... 1/3 of a second!! Are you f-ing kidding me?? Benching a guy for 1/3 of a second??? That'll make me want to slow down a LOT more...We're NOT talking a 3 second difference but 1/3 of a second...That's ridiculous especially for a guy that hustles...I'd get a trade, NOW...

[@jameshanna1041]

Oh well I'm more concerned about the pitching yikes

[@Dee_Rod]

How do you motivate a player if they never do anything wrong and you can't criticize them for anything.. grow up. Do your job. Play hard. Run hard. Are players going to have pacifiers on the field now

[@bernardharrington152]

They're talking about a guy who was running fast the Cardinals need to be worried about hitting and scoring points and the pitching is not doing that good either last time I checked u never let the public know teams business

[@artcrews1415]

Points?

[@pdnperformingarts]

This is one of the weakest analysis with regard to the actual situation on the field. This dude tries to explain wanting some more effort within the scope of 0.37 seconds from 3rd to home plate. The problem with the analysis can be found on multiple levels. First it would be prudent to understand how far Tyler is away from home plate at the time the throw is made. Utilizing the velocity on the ball and the distance Tyler has to cover makes a more realistic examination at any speed (whether historical, or on that night). My view is that the third base coach makes a lousy call and Tyler gets caught. It is hard to judge when the coach actually makes the call relative to the fielding of the ball. If you examine when the catcher actually has the ball versus where Tyler is Tyler just eclipes the the circle which is 13 ft from home plate. If you use the .37 seconds at the rate of 6.94 secs from 3rd to home, that is just under 5 feet. So Tyler is still 7 ft from the plate if he is running at the higher rate of speed. He is still probably out!

[@thatgirl9759]

Check the f*** out of him in the clubhouse, not publicly.

[@milescurtin4185]

No Braves? Guess the team that swept the Cardinals are not good enough for Brian Kenney! 😒

[@boschlosser10]

Man this is all distraction.. the pitching is Terrible.. era of 9 by the rotation World Series contenders don’t have era’s of 9

[@jerryhenry662]

more loafing at the major league level than anywhere else

[@benelder8556]

Sometimes players need publicly embarrassed! Also shows rest of the club the manager is the Boss...and I'm a Cardinals fan. Loved Oli for saying that!!!

[@GeekRead]

I think it shows the insecurity of the manager. You say that sometimes players need to be publicly embarrassed and maybe that's true but TON has never had a history of dogging it so what makes you think it was necessary here as opposed to being a real manager and deal with the players to their face and not to the press.

[@SirLikkAlot]

This is Bigger than Baseball How Dare you Mormal Bench O'neil Who do you think you Are lol. Read Between the lines

[@whywelovefilm7079]

1. Tyler O’Neil is probably one of the most scrappy players in baseball. He always plays the game with 100% 2. What a poor job by Marmol for making this public. This is the kind of thing you keep in house. If you wanna bench him then fine. But you don’t call him out in front of reporters. Now the clubhouse is going to take sides and you start to build up walls between players. Rookie mistake by Marmol.

[@cordelegeorgia7985]

Coach is trash dude was hustling just got thrown out lol coach handling losing wrong way

[@montanaproductions5559]

What’s Derosa got to say. Give a damn what Brian Kenny thinks

[@1212LeoSnake]

Well guess who's getting traded come trading deadline🤔. Same thing happened to Bader and he's with the Yankees.

[@Mattejayy]

Running hard isnt cool anymore

[@thebluecollarmister2075]

Brain Kenny is disgusting 😒 😑 he uses analytics for everything 🙄 😒 ruining the game..

[@jamiethornton6101]

The Cardinals have a lot bigger problems than Tyler O' Neill and how fast he's running. That part is obvious. You still have a new manager who only has one years worth experience. He already had a fractured clubhouse and the Cardinals have serious pitching issues.

[@ZeJong-hm6bt]

I blame the front office for this, Mozeliak, Oli Marmol should not have been hired due to his lack of experience.

[@jmcook96]

WHO CARES

[@kalztony395]

Coach did nothing wrong, 1st off idk you not much of an athlete if you get hurt try to run out ground balls, most professional athletes today are babies and don’t have the work ethic or the appreciation for the opportunity they have over the average person, secondly the media normalizes it ok to take it easy in none higher stack situations, you are playing and making millions to give the fans enjoyment. The fan payed a good amount of money they worked hard for all week long to come down to the stadium and watch you play , and you gave a half heart effort, clutch situation or not Be a professional, give the people what they payed for, and what your team is trying to accomplish together Otherwise the fans can spend their hard earned money on something else, and without the fans your out of a million dollar job Professional need a reality check and the manager gave one to Tyler, kudos

[@Jop278]

SO .4 seconds would of made him safe when he was out by 10 feet? LET'S NOT MAKE A SPORT THAT ISN'T ALL ABOUT ATHLETICISM ALL ABOUT ATHLETICISM PLEASE. YOU HIT FOR CONTACT AND HE WAS THROWN OUT BY ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE GAME. LEAVE IT AT THAT. THE 36 YEAR OLD MANAGER IS MAKING A BIG DEAL OUT OF A SMALL DEAL.

[@matts7975]

I guarantee the people making excuses for O’neill saying it should be kept in the clubhouse know less about the Cardinal players and how to motivate them than Marmol himself. As for the excuse of O’neill slowing down because he was questioning the send, that’s pretty hilarious because if you are questioning the send from the 3B coach, that means you damn well better be buckling down and hustling your ass off to make up for the so-called bad decision. Lastly, to those questioning Pop Warner, our rule of thumb was that at that depth in RF, if the ball hasn’t been fielded by the time the runner gets to the bag, send him. From the shitty replays I gathered, it looked like Tyler was two steps past the bag by the time I could tell Acuna had ahold of it. With Oneill being in the elite percentile of speed, I would absolutely have sent him at that point, regardless of who was throwing. P.S. As for O’neill’s feelings, if they are that delicate, he should join the reddit circle-jerk where all feelings are protected from criticism and scrutiny by way of moderation.

[@Bigbirdreese1600]

Ok Couch potato .

[@matts7975]

@@Bigbirdreese1600 that’s the type of argument i fully expect from a gaf, brain dead redditor

[@doohuh]

MLB network is so bad lol how do you guys talk so much without saying anything of value

[@Garcusmarvey]

I love stat cast, what a breakdown.

[@alexfranklin8705]

we’ll see if the manager has the same attitude if nolan or paul does this lol

[@MrTwessel30]

Paul and Nolan hustle anytime its needed. No Nolan isn't going to sprint on a ground ball when running to first. but I just watched Goldy truck it from 1st to 3rd on a popup just past the infield. Yeah he was thrown out at home, but he was full speed

[@caseywinkler850]

Ok it does look bad since he sped up at the end, I'm a cardinals fan and I've seen tyler o'neill run faster. That said he could be sore or felt off, but then that's still on him to communicate that to the staff. It may have been addressed in the dugout before the press, but it could have been left out of the press. The only reason this is a big deal is because the press made it a big deal I don't think anyone actually thinks anything bad is going on in the locker room they just want to argue about something.

[@bdub8522]

You’ll never see that with those guys. That’s the whole point!

[@mattwatters5702]

Never liked Marmol, and this just makes it worse. Tyler wasn't pimping it, he was running. You don't embarrass your players publicly, or you lose the clubhouse.

[@mdubbya87]

I think Oli was using it to send a message to the team, mainly the younger guys on the team now and in the future.

[@timothywilliams1359]

Pop Warner is not doing his situational homework if he sends O'Neill on that play. The fastest man in MLB would have had almost zero chance to score there. And this is not the first time he has had an apparent brain freeze.

[@al1976-v7m]

Apparently it was also rainy weather which could partly account for 0.4 second difference frome 2nd to home

[@Launchpad_McQuack_Is_A_Chad]

I get the breakdown of his speed and yes technically he was going slower than his average from 2nd to home. My problem is that difference amounts to less than half a second of difference. So many variables could account for that minute discrepancy that I don't think it is worth it to public shame the guy as though he was dogging it.

[@brionhausgeld2415]

The ball was hit to shallow right against a big arm. Why did Marmol go public with this? 15 losses later it looks like Marmol has lost the respect of the team, only 30 games into the season. O'Neil went to arbritation last year and is in every conversation about the Cards putting a trade package together for an actual pitching Ace. Goldy and Arenado came to the Cards to win a ring. Now it is time for an office pool about which of the four will be the last to leave before July 31st. Marmol, O'Neil, Goldy, Arenado?

[@man4YAWEH454]

.5 of a second is alot? 🤔 Maramol is taking up for 3rd base coach for sending O'Neil. Coach should've never sent ONeil on Acuna unless dropped ball. Maramol should not be making public statement on a player for that. Period

[@TylerBunchanumbers]

According to the math, if you did a sidexside or overlay youd seen the hard running T.O. 11 feet ahead. 11feet! He'd made it if he ran full speed. That said, the manager can chew ass in private, or if needed the presence of the team. But not the public. Both gentlemen are in the wrong.

[@Mermully]

Marmol is just trying to make it seem like he's tough and a good manager. O'neill was doing his best and certainly not slacking off.