COROS Doesn't Give A Damn || The Pace 3

[@Sinasi08]

Coros is doing things right ✔️✔️✔️ They will sell a lot of Pace 3s. The Pace series are becoming the reference is this price range. For a company that only started in 2018 if I'm not mistaken, they are doing a fantastic job!

[@mlegrand]

I've been very impressed with the company as a whole. I think their customer service is good. They back port software. They seem to care about the sports that they're involved in and they make solid watches. Bravo COROS 👏🏻

[@Itsmekvn]

They also have an amazing free one on one coaching service. Not just prompts or ai responses

[@sergeybatko2413]

yeah fantastic - to put music to the watch i should connect it to PC, in 2024 😀. And 4gb storage, where 32gb micro sd card cost 4$

[@DarkMatter23100]

Ordered one of these last night and this has been the best video I’ve found explaining to me all the features! Thanks for taking the time to make it, I’ll subscribe for sure

[@mlegrand]

Thank you DarkMatter! Hope you enjoy the watch!

[@RemyBReel]

I would LOVE to see Coros' take on a bike computer. Another good one Matt, thanks!

[@mlegrand]

That would be very very interesting. I think their market it ultra runners. It seems like cycling would be a hard switch. They'd have to do something very unique and usable. 🤔

[@RemyBReel]

@@mlegrand TRUE, they know running and do it well. As fan of tech, I'd like to see more feature rich, affordable options for other sports. How come runners get to have all the fun?!

[@koalalala3939]

I would love that to. I would like to see something that das all the heart monitoring and the usual Coros interface but is also connected to the power meter AND a display in my Cockpit

[@Jeremy-vf7su]

Coming soon…

[@almastudios-officialchanne236]

It’s nearly here!

[@vpnconsult]

Love the efforts you put in these high quality reviews.

[@mlegrand]

Thank you so much!

[@chrisking6448]

Matt, I’m planning to get the Pace 3 for my son who’s in the military. He mainly wants a sport watch for tracking his runs and he’s currently not on any platform (Apple, Garmin, COROS, etc) so in his case - the Pace 3 should be perfect. I also think your point of restating the Pace 3’s price several times is warranted: considering the Pace 3’s $229 price tag vs the AW Ultra’s $799 price tag, the Pace 3’s performance is outstanding!! Great video!! Thank you Matt!

[@mlegrand]

It was a little much wasn't it. When editing, it starts to get a bit repetitive. Probably could have gotten away with one less reminder. 😉 Thanks for all of the support here with this channel Chris! I really appreciate it.

[@blessedpapa]

Upgraded from an old Polar watch. Pace 3 is extremely comfortable watch to wear (the silicone band), almost feels like nothing on the wrist.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, that's a great option. Glad you're enjoying it and best of luck with training!

[@Feldmanphysicaltherapy]

Great video! I’ve been lucky enough to be using this device as part of a beta test group for the last month or so, and I’m super impressed. I have been using it along side my apex 2 pro and Garmin 955, and the accuracy is super impressive, I love how you barely feel it on your wrist. It has quickly become my daily driver

[@mlegrand]

Ok, so you've had it significantly longer than I have. I agree that the watch is a wonderful feather weight and might be a favorite for some of the true hardcore runners out there. I'm guessing Kipchoge for example! 😂

[@TheValonquar]

Can you comment on the instant pace data is it laggy ?

[@Feldmanphysicaltherapy]

@@TheValonquar in my experience not at all. I will say I generally run by feel or HR more than pace, but in my testing the pace was right on with my Apex Pro 2 and Garmin 955

[@TheValonquar]

Thank you.@@Feldmanphysicaltherapy

[@sachakopa7964]

@@TheValonquarI’ve got the Pace2 and picked up the Pod2 to get fast accurate pace data…that and I run around skyscrapers in the city often, so wanted accurate pace, distances and times in those gps challenging environments. For the most part, the Pace 2 on its own was good. Just on every few runs there’d be a section where it might loose track of me…but it was under large overpasses or really tall buildings. Works great with the Pod2, pace data gets to the watch fast and my splits are accurate, so I’m happy with the purchase.

[@josie7188]

This company is simply amazing. They already made the default watch face of the Pace 3 available for Pace 2 users! So cool!! 🤗 Great review as always! 🤩

[@mlegrand]

Yeah! Coros is great about updating older models. There are some activities that are new to the Pace 3 that are also getting back ported to the Pace 2 as well. 🙌 Good job COROS!!!

[@saltydog6241]

Matt, your edits, graphics, etc. on these reviews are consistently the best among the group I watching doing what you do. Keep it up!

[@mlegrand]

No plans on stopping and hopefully I’ll continue to improve. Thank you for the kind words. It means a lot to me. 👍

[@jonnycarlson9555]

Not a device for my purposes but it seems like really good value for the money for the right user. Great video ad always 😊

[@mlegrand]

Thanks so much Jonny! I always like to have a lower priced device that I can suggest to people that doesn't break the bank. I think this is that watch. 👌

[@jonnycarlson9555]

@@mlegrand I have a Ticwatch pro 5. It's more a allrounder good enough on most tasks. Then of course my Bryton 750 on the bike

[@BespokeFotografie]

I own a Pace 2 and ordered the Pace 3 immediately after its released. I can't wait to use it,

[@mlegrand]

I really think you'll enjoy it. I liked the Pace 2 and am really impressed by the Pace 3. It's interesting. I think I like this series from Coros more than their other options because it's such a good value watch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@theandroids]

Good for you. I cant justify it until my pace 2 breaks.

[@BespokeFotografie]

@@theandroids selling the 2 to make up for the 3 purchase. If there is a will there is a way.

[@alotlessmike]

I actually just got my Pace 3. I previously wore the original Apex, and while it may be a downgrade in product line, it's a huge improvement in features. Looking forward to logging lots of miles with it.

[@mlegrand]

It’s also a lot lighter weight! 👌 Keep me posted on what you think of it as you start to train with it a bit more.

[@alotlessmike]

@@mlegrand will do. I’ve got a marathon and two half marathons coming up over then next 6 weeks. Ample opportunity for testing. 😂

[@Byku700]

Wow, such a great review Matt. Amazing editing! Keep up the great work 👍

[@mlegrand]

Thank you so much Byku! Very nice of you to take the time to drop in here and mention that. I really do appreciate it.

[@HoytMcBeth]

Matt - your videography is second to none. Your intros are beautiful! I’ve had the Pace 2 for coming on three years, and it has been a fabulous fitness watch. That I just received turn by turn upgrades on a three year old watch is bonkers. The optical HR accuracy has always been a downside for the P2 - even with running (cycling it’s a complete mess) I found it very hit and miss. I think that’s the real value-add on the Pace 3, but that’s because my anal retentive nature manifests more strongly on heart rate than GPS. The challenge for Coros with their existing users is that the Pace 2 is such a mind blowing value that if you’re going to upgrade, you’re probably going to want more features, and the FR255 seems like a bigger set up in features and accuracy. The Pace series is for the value minded customers, and I don’t think the delta is big enough to upgrade from the Pace 2 to Pace 3 (at least for me). In terms of the watch band, I have both the nylon and silicone, and I really like the look of the silicone. It can pass in a work setting and it has infinite settings for a good fit. Garmin’s bands on budget watches look cheap by comparison. One thing I think you forgot to mention is that the Pace 3 added a trail running setting. I miss having that on the Pace 2. Dave at CTS said it was ported to the P2 in the latest firmware upgrade but I don’t have it.

[@mlegrand]

Yes, there's a few activity types that are getting ported back to the Pace 2 eventually. Trail Running, Hiking, Skiing, Snowboard, XC Ski. I love Dave's channel. He does such a good job at Chase the Summit. Thank you so much for the kind words about the videography!!!

[@dangray7901]

COROS Pace, and Pace 2 have been excellent with quick locking on to satellites, accuracy on the roads... They have added new features to the watch via updated firmware, at least for the Pace. I assume the newer models too. My Garmins were all fine, but the battery life and ease of use of my COROS watches have exceeded them!

[@mlegrand]

I'm glad to hear that you're liking the COROS Pace devices. I love the value that this particular watch provides. It's actually my favorite COROS watch for that reason. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@1519Spring]

Consistently great imagery and solid commentary.

[@mlegrand]

Wow, thank you so much for saying that. 👍

[@bonn1771]

great value!!! thanks for doing this!! as always love your videos

[@mlegrand]

Thank you!!!

[@PrerequisiteName]

6:13 Is Duel Frequeny for a fencing activity... Or is that a dual spelling..

[@mlegrand]

Dual Frequency GPS for more accurate duels? 🤔

[@KonstantinosDouros]

Very beautiful watch! I chose to buy a 7 months old Forerunner 255 Music for 250$. The music providers is a bit of an issue for me but above all the Garmin watches user experience seems more advanced. Thank you for the video!

[@mlegrand]

Great purchase!

[@KonstantinosDouros]

I was lucky he wanted to upgrade to the 265! 😊

[@merlincalo6877]

For the price I think it brings a lot of value. I am wondering how the features work. Like: OWS, swim, bike, running workouts, saved running routes, and sleep tracking. I am considering the Garmin FR 255 & 955. Do you think these are better watches? For that price point, I think the Coros Pace 3 is hard to beat. I wish it was just a little cheaper, tbh. Though I do like the new features and upgrades on the Pace 3. ⌚️

[@mlegrand]

I do think the 255 and 955 are better watches. But it comes at a higher price. The Pace 3 does the basics well but the newer Garmin watches really dive into how you slept and how that might effect your day. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you figure out which way to go. It's a tricky call.

[@raoulthomas361]

Hi, thanks for talking about the swimming aspect of it! How do the swimming functions compare to other watches like from Garmin?

[@mlegrand]

COROS currently does not have a drill mode or a way to track kick sets. I haven't tested this watch for open water swimming but COROS has not tested well in my past open water tests. Rumors are that COROS is working on some drill mode type features for swimming. I'd love to see it. 🙌

[@raoulthomas361]

​@@mlegrandCheers for the reply!

[@DALE1177]

Does it have round trip routing feature like garmin ? When you only put in milage and it makes a route that takes you back to your start position again ?

[@mlegrand]

Unfortunately it does not have the same level of routing features that the Garmins have. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@theandroids]

I love the black around the watch face now.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, looks great! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@Aldinequeen]

😂 @ Coros doesn’t give a damn! They definitely have made Garmin up their game!

[@mlegrand]

It's kind of one of those titles that makes you wonder what's this going to be about. 🤔 I'm curious if Coros has seen this and if they're not too happy about it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ivocupic1912]

Dual frequency GPS isn't a silver bullet for accuracy. I have seen Coros Pace 2 paired with Coros POD 2, in an area with short tunels, be more accurate than Coros Vertix 2. On the other hand I saw Garmin 255 in the same area with even better accuracy.

[@mlegrand]

100% agree. I think it has a lot to do with the antenna design and the algorithm that parses out any bad data. Garmin and Apple seem to have been crushing it lately. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@happyuser109]

Thanks for a very thoughtful and thorough review! Buying it today!❤️

[@mlegrand]

Awesome! Hope you enjoy it. The other option to look into is the new Garmin Forerunner 165. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@happyuser109]

@@mlegrand i think its gonna be a while before its gonna be available in my country🥲 also ive been eyeing the coros since pace 2 so i think its my best choice for now, im so tired of forgetting to charge my apple watch😞

[@mlegrand]

Keep me posted on what you think! 👍

[@SmVor]

Bought Pace 2 three years ago and wanting Pace 3, but my Pace 2 is still working brilliantly 😅

[@mlegrand]

That’s great feedback for people to hear. I’m sure you could find a way to kill it! 😆

[@kojie333]

Your b-rolls are a step above others. I sub

[@mlegrand]

Wow, thank you so much!!! Hope you enjoy the videos and please don't hesitate to reach out with ideas for future videos. 👌

[@muhammadfarhanjavaid4761]

Hi Matt Need an update review on 14.31 firmware on epix gen 2. What all included vis a vis pro series. Looking forward.

[@mlegrand]

Here's the change log from 14.31. I don't have plans to make a video about it as it takes me about two weeks or so to make each of these videos. Added new activity types to non-Pro models: American Football, Field Hockey, Ice Hockey, Soccer/Football, Lacrosse, Rugby, Ultimate Disc, Cricket, Softball, Archery, Overland, BMX, Racket sports and more! Added Device Settings Backup and Restore. Added ability to set multiple locations in the weather app on device. Added Gaming App. Added Workouts App. Added Golf "Plays Like" improvements. Added Golf Biomes support for OLED products. Added Multisport option for race calendar. Added support for Hill Score and Endurance Score features on fenix 7 series, Epix Gen 2, and Marq 2. Added Shaded Relief feature to the map for fenix 7 series, Epix Gen 2, and Marq 2. Added split screen and radial data field layouts to the map for fenix 7 series, Epix Gen 2, and Marq 2. Added support for weather overlay map in the weather app for fenix 7 series, Epix Gen 2, and Marq 2. Added support for new Di2 cassette sprocket patterns. Added support for the Recent Apps hot key to Non-Pro models. Added workout muscle map support for HIIT, Cardio, and Pilates. Added Trolling Motor app (allows anglers to control their Garmin Force or Force Kraken Trolling Motor through a compatible Garmin smartwatch. Garmin Force Trolling Motor must be updated to the July 2023 software update.) Added Trolling Motor page to Fish and Boat activities if paired to a Garmin Force or Force Kraken Trolling Motor. Added Fish Forecast (uses solunar theory to predict the best times to fish.) Added a link to Garmin Connect Mobile in My Workouts within the Workouts App. Added haptic feedback to wifi sync failure case. Added power guide support to the race widget. Enable Red Shift on non-Pro AMOLED products. Fix Golf scorecard button not properly dismissing. Fix race time prediction on races with distance longer than a marathon. Fixed a bug where the activity units setting was overwriting units outside the activity. Fixed an issue in Fish and Hunt that would show different options with touch vs button press. Fixed an issue in Fish where logging a catch or saving a location wouldn't work correctly if there was no GPS signal. Fixed an issue in Tides where alerts would occur at the wrong time. Fixed an issue in Tides where the alert cursor would be inaccurate. Fixed Connect IQ watch faces still getting gestures even when gestures are disabled. Fixed drawing issue with chart data fields in certain data field positions. Fixed issue that could cause stale weather data. Fixed issue when paired to Varia Vision. Fixed issue with Gaming win rate not matching Garmin Connect. Fixed issue with golf plays like using stale weather data. Fixed issue with Race Day weather wind speeds. Fixed issue with sleep watch face showing an incorrect alarm time. Fixed issue with touchscreen not working when the backlight is off on fenix 7 series devices. Fixed missing Daily Suggested Workouts in the Workouts app. Fixed potential display flicker when using Connect IQ watch faces. Fixed potential issue causing the inReach widget glance to stop updating. Fixed potential issue that could cause a crash on software update. Fixed potential issue when a large number of mp3 files are on the device. Fixed potential issue where a user may be unable to play music in Spotify. Fixed potential issue where Spotify would show blank except for the control buttons. Fixed potential issue with the Reference Point App when a large number of waypoints are loaded. Fixed potential lockup on the wallet page. Fixed potential shutdown in the Tides app. Fixed potential shutdown on weather map. Fixed potential shutdown when using a course and viewing the Climb Pro data screen. Fixed potential UI issue with HRV display in Morning Report. Fixed UI flow issue when viewing an event in the calendar. Fixed UI issue when a 3 digit HRV value is present in Morning Report. Improved golf Hole Picker. Updated translations.

[@claudiojaramillo5177]

Was waiting for your review ! Fantastic watch, just sad that they're still a bit behind Garmin in swimming features, and as a swimmer mainly it makes the difference to me

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, I think I'd stick to Garmin if swimming is your primary focus. My uncle is a big swimmer and he still like the Apple Watch but personally I think Apple needs to make a few more adjustments before I'd pick it for swimming. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@claudiojaramillo5177]

No worries, I love your content a lot. The cinematography is great. By the way, I posted a comment talking about this on one of Coros' forums and they did confirm that they are working on a "Swimming drill" feature which is great ! For folks like myself who don't use Apple products this seems very promising, I want Garmin to have some real competition.

[@mlegrand]

@@claudiojaramillo5177 - To me it does feel like COROS is starting to give Garmin a bit of competition. It'll be interesting to watch this space. This is fantastic news that they're willing to work on the Swim side of things a little bit. Very cool.

[@raycohdez.523]

Hola, soy usuario de Garmin, pero últimamente me está fallando mucho en Open Water, esperando si alguien me puede confirmar, que tal funciona este Pace 3 en natación de aguas abiertas, para dar el paso definitivamente. En cada cambio de sentido el garmin pierde ritmo, metros..., y no los recupera.

[@mlegrand]

@@raycohdez.523 - Dependerá del dispositivo de Garmin, pero los Garmin más nuevos tienden a funcionar muy bien cuando nado en aguas abiertas. Coros no ha sido tan bueno. Este Pace 3 obtuvo buenos resultados en la única prueba de natación en aguas abiertas que hice con él.

[@tobuslieven]

I wish there was a watch that only showed current pace. The complicated stuff makes me not want to buy one. Is there a way to set either the coros or garmins up like this?

[@mlegrand]

You could probably do that on a Garmin but I don’t see an easy way to do that on the Coros Pace 3. I’d just keep in mind that all GPS watches won’t show that pace instantly. It takes a little time. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@jakejoyride]

Garmin allow you to set your data screens

[@BGNewsReporter]

New to the channel and just found this review. Has made me very interested in the Coros Pace 3. Did you ever do an "after 100 days" update? Was curious to see how the strap lasted. Cheers!

[@mlegrand]

I am aiming to have that video come out the middle of next week or so. Maybe I should title it Pace 3 after 150 days? The white strap did not do well. I would go for the red track edition or see if COROS has any new colors. I'm happy to answer any questions you have about the watch. Another watch to check out would be the Garmin FR 165 depending on the stuff that you plan to do. 👍

[@mlegrand]

@user-ur4lv4zh4h - I'll mention these in my upcoming 100 day video. Thanks!

[@Paraclef]

@@mlegrand Combined with Coros armband ? Thank you for the quality of the content.

[@miks7854]

Can someone explain how to download Apple Music into it without paying for other services or if it’s even possible? I’m considering to buy the watch but I want to know if I get music or not.

[@mlegrand]

This is downloaded mp3s only. I'm guessing that there are ways to pull mp3s from Apple Music but I don't think it's going to be the smoothest process for moving songs on and off of this device easily.

[@MichaelJohnson2]

​@@mlegrandare there music controls on the watch if you play music from your phone?

[@trailzrock2]

Love the Pace 3, but as a triathlete that trains indoors on platforms like Zwift, without ANT+ this watch is a no go unfortunately. Awesome, awesome racing watch but I just can't understand why Coros did not add ant+. Until power meters broadcast multiple Bluetooth transmissions, a watch without ANT+ is a step back since you can't pair the watch and a tablet at the same time.

[@mlegrand]

Right. ANT+ is amazing for it's ability to connected to any number of devices. I do think it requires an additional chipset so I expect less and less manufactures to support it in the future. I bet we'll see multiple bluetooth channels as an option for more hardware going forward. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@slevinkalevra]

Get a Polar H10 chest strap, more accurate and connects to ANT+

[@trailzrock2]

@@slevinkalevra true, but I need the powermeter part not the heart rate. My power meters all have Bluetooth and ANT+. Bluetooth to the tablet and ant+ to the watch. Without an ANT+ watch I have to choose to either send the blte to the tablet or the watch. Not both. It's a no go. 4iiii Viiiiva heart rate transmitterhas the ability to convert the ant+ to Bluetooth and vice versa. But it's just so nice to also have ant+ on a device.

[@therealchickentender]

Well, had this since launch (Pace 2 before that) and today I returned to Garmin FR. Too many times spent cursing the HRM on the Pace3 (not as many as Pace2). Sleep tracking sucks. No HRV. No real tracking of any sort that is meaningful or applied to recovery and training EXCEPT training itself. I fully understand the appeal and love the interface simplicity and the *price*.... But in my opinion, you do get what you pay for.... and after the better part of a year with Coros I really was feeling like they were $200 watches.

[@mlegrand]

Which Forerunner did you end up with? I think the 255 or 265 is an amazing value with tons of recover metrics and decent HR tracking.

[@therealchickentender]

@@mlegrand (months later, sry)... I wound up with the FR 955 Solar and absolutely love it.

[@mlegrand]

@@therealchickentender - Awesome!

[@pablobaez2554]

It's a shame that Coros doesn't have the Track Shoes function. You need to use another app and it's a bit annoying

[@mlegrand]

I don’t know much about that. 🤔

[@QuentinAub]

it's in the work :)

[@salvadorromerojr5499]

I am relatively new when it comes to running watches. I ran a couple 5K’s, two half marathons, and completed my first full marathon this November. Would you recommend the pace 3 for a first-time running watch? And how does it perform in strength training sessions?

[@mlegrand]

I would look at this Pace 3 and the Garmin 255 or 265. I haven't really tested the Pace 3 for weight lifting type of workouts yet. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@salvadorromerojr5499]

@@mlegrand thank you for the recommendations. I will definitely check out the Garmin watches as well. Great job on this video it was really informative.

[@ThangNguyen-ip5bk]

Hello, please let me know if this Coros Pace 3 without any accessories can show me real-time running metrics like cadence and stride length during my road running workout? If yes, can I bring these numbers to the main screen so I can take a look at them quickly while running. I would like to improve my form. Tks

[@mlegrand]

I'm not 100% sure what all metrics can be shown.

[@QuentinAub]

Yes cadence and stride length are part of the data that you can show in real time on your screen.

[@mlegrand]

Awesome Quentin! Thanks for the assist with this answer.

[@tofumoshi190]

did they make an update to adjust the pace lag? its the only thing that keeping me from buying cp3

[@mlegrand]

They just released some new beta software. It’s hard to tell if it’s better or not. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Gimlet6051]

Which one should I buy between Garmin255s music and Coros pace3 which they have both similar price range

[@mlegrand]

The 255 is a bit more full featured. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@barmo23]

Could switching from Garmin 745 to Coros Pace 3 make sense for a road runner who sometimes swims and does strength training?

[@mlegrand]

That 745 was a damn good watch. Is it acting up or is the battery struggling? I’d look at the 965 or 265 if you’ve liked Garmin maybe. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@anthonyrampino7734]

Looks like a nice watch. If you had to choose between this and the Garmin 945? The 945 is about $100 more.

[@mlegrand]

I'd say that's a very tricky call. The 945 is pretty old at this point. Do you need maps?

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@mlegrand that’s what I’m thinking about. I’m wondering if the maps are worth it or if the bread crumb trails are good enough. I’m getting into hiking and trail running and I do gym workouts.

[@mlegrand]

@@anthonyrampino7734 - Maps would be nice for hiking. Tricky call.

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@mlegrand with all that in mind, do you recommend something different that doesn’t cost more than around $350?

[@mlegrand]

@@anthonyrampino7734 - I would have a strong look at the Garmin Forerunner 255 non music. Are you in the US? I have a discount code for my cycling store that could ship it to you. Or see what best price you can find online. Should be right at that price limit.

[@stevehilts4159]

Excellent review. Very professional.

[@mlegrand]

That’s very nice of you to say Steve! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@notmedude]

Imagine some kind of basic map in Pace 3. It would destroy the competition. Now, without any kind of payment option it will hardly beat the 255.

[@mlegrand]

That would be amazing. If anyone would do it, it’d be COROS.

[@L-dw5sx]

It has bread crumb map I’ve navigated 50k alone with it

[@bjornunderabadsign]

Apex 2 has maps.

[@notmedude]

@@bjornunderabadsign yup, but with it's price the Forerunner 965 is the better buy.

[@notmedude]

@@bjornunderabadsign right now only the Suunto Race S competes with garmin in that lower price bracket.

[@NghiaKTS]

Can anyone who has used the Pace 3 tell me about the GPS lag - instant pace while running, and with Heart Rate still lagging as much as the Pace 2?

[@mlegrand]

It's always a little hard to tell when using this device. I didn't actually put it up directly against the Pace 2. Heart rate lag looked normal for an optical heart rate sensor to me. Coros does make a pod for faster pace adjustements but I tend not to use it.

[@NghiaKTS]

@@mlegrand Can it be equivalent to Garmin 255/955? Thank you for your feedback.

[@mlegrand]

@@NghiaKTS - Well I think those three watches are all still very different.

[@snowwalker9999]

It's a great watch however in Canada after tax you pay a little over $400 to get this watch. At that price I wish it was a bit sturdier with amoled screen. I cannot read the watch in bright daylight.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, that's tricky. At that price it's no longer a super amazing value option. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@adanprincep3857]

Is it convenient for using at not so cold swimming pools?

[@mlegrand]

Ugg, I hate warm lap swimming. But yeah Adan, it'd work. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@verma.shaurya]

How do you export your HR data for analysis? I want to export and keep my data.

[@mlegrand]

The COROS app has export options. I export it as a .fit file typically.

[@KarenG-j1p]

HRV I understand should be coming by year end just that it is not ECG based.

[@mlegrand]

Oh really? That's very good news. I'd love to have an HRV average after a night's sleep to check on recovery. Thank you User-k !

[@DariaAndrievskaia]

Thank you for such a great and through review, thinking about this watch for some time now, never had one but getting more and more into running/swimming/cycling so feel the need to finally get one. looking forward to your update video on it! btw, seeing all these ppl in the comments asking what they should opt for - pace 3 or fr255 - bcos the price difference is about 50 eur/usd ... am i the only one, or it is more like 100-150 eur in Europe for me?

[@mlegrand]

You are very welcome for the review. The other one to keep an eye on is the brand new Garmin Forerunner 165. Not sure about the Europe price differences. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@JLM65]

Hello, sorry for the English. All your videos are fantastic. After seeing the review you did of the Amazfit Cheetah Pro I had made the decision to buy it, but now I have seen the Coros Pace Pro and I have a doubt. There is something that really attracts me to the Cheetah as opposed to the Pace 3, and that is the Amoled screen, size and resolution, but there are qualities that are very important such as: GPS and heart rate and personal trainer. What do you think would be the best choice? Do you plan to make a comparison between these watches and even some Polar, Garmin or Suunto in the same price range? Thank you.

[@mlegrand]

I don't have any plans to compare the two but I'd lean towards the Pace 3 as long as you're ok with the smaller size. There's tons of deals to be had as we head into the holiday season. I would also consider the Garmin Forerunner 255 if it is on sale. It's an amazing watch.

[@albertusbotha5253]

Does Garmin Forerunner 255 have NAVIGATION?! I don't think so. But Coros Pace 3 does. BIG difference?

[@mlegrand]

The 255 and Pace 3 don't have mapping but do have navigation. It's a subtle difference. Thanks Alberty for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@codeopold8241]

What do you think about the Coros pace 3 vs Garmin forerunner 255 music? 249€ vs 288€. It's my first running watch and I do mainly running, some cycling and swimming. Do you think the garmin is worth it even tho its older and more expensive?

[@mlegrand]

Wow, 255 music for $288 seems pretty solid deal. I typically don't recommend the music version of that device because it doesn't have a ton of storage but that's a great price. Do they also have a deal on the non-music edition? I think the 255 is a more full featured than the Pace 3 but it all depends on what kind of prices deal you can find between the two. Nice work here!

[@codeopold8241]

@@mlegrand thanks for your response. The 255 and 255 music are about the same price rn. So I'd choose the music because of music, audio cues and WiFi. Do you think the 255 music is worth it even tho it is about 1.5 years old? And I'm still not sure about what size to choose. My wrists are about 15.5-16cm and I love the 255 more than the 255s because of the bigger screen and battery. Will it look too bulky? I have no store near me where I can try them.

[@mlegrand]

@@codeopold8241 - My wrist are very small in this video here. I think it’ll feel big for a bit but you’ll quickly grow to enjoy the bigger size. It’s one of my favorite watches.

[@codeopold8241]

@@mlegrand thanks a lot for your amazing videos and helpful responses. So I'll probably go for the 255m? Not sure yet

[@alyssa9452]

Hi! I'm sold on this watch for my first GPS/running watch! But I'm stuck between the nylon band vs silicone... any worries about how long the Velcro/nylon will last?

[@mlegrand]

I’m not worried as much about the straps durability but I am worried about discoloration. Are you thinking white?

[@alyssa9452]

@@mlegrand initially yes- but you may be right about discoloration 🤔🤔

[@kavysinghal3783]

I am getting both the cords pace 3 and Garmin forerunner 255s for the same price which one should I get?

[@mlegrand]

Hard call but I’d say 255s. It’s a bit more full featured in my opinion. Personally I love the morning report and sleep details. It’s something I’m personally working to improve. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@samroque9864]

I’m stuck between this COROS pace 3 and forerunner 265. Any suggestions?

[@积木-j4o]

265，No regrets

[@DarkPa1adin]

I'm stuck too

[@mlegrand]

The Pace 3 would save money but the 265 is a bit more full featured. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@gujenio]

Fr 265, hrv, ant+ amoled display, Spotify, Garmin pay, and a lot of functionality and characteristics

[@samroque9864]

@@mlegrand thank you! If you have time can you do a Coros pace 3 vs forerunner 265 video please? Thanks !

[@carlosmobellan9443]

thanks for the great video. it might be interesting to compare to similar entry level watches from Garmin and Apple (SE 2022)??

[@mlegrand]

You might be right! I'll wait a bit and see what Apple announces and how it effects that AW SE device. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@horestisnl371]

Garmin Venu 3 or Coros Pace 3.... Which one is the best?

[@mlegrand]

I’ll have a review of the Venu 3 soon. I think if you’re mostly into running the Venu 3 would be a great option. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@davidrosenthal5795]

Love my Apex 2 it’s friggin amazing

[@mlegrand]

Awesome! Glad you're loving it! Thanks so much for the feedback. It really helps me get a better idea of which watches to prioritize for videos here on the channel.

[@yubianasfar]

Wonder if u compare it to Garmin 165, enlighten me please

[@mlegrand]

I don’t have the 166 yet but I’ll try to get one and put together a review.

[@diakoumo]

My Coros Pace 2 died after three years and I found out that most users suffer the same problem. The battery lifespan is 2 to 3 years, right after the 2-year warranty has expired... There is no option to repair it. Please keep that in mind.

[@mlegrand]

Great point. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@diakoumo]

​@@mlegrand Hi, after contacting Coros support I received a brand new replacement free of charge. I have to give Kudos to Coros for acting responsibly!

[@mlegrand]

@@diakoumo - That’s great news!

[@raphaelbzerra1034]

This watch is good for triathlon?

[@mlegrand]

I think it's a good affordable option. There are other options on the market that are better but not at this price point. The other one to look at would be to see if you can find any sort of sales or deals on the Garmin FR 255 but currently, I don't see any mega deals on that watch. amzn.to/3TVPWLd

[@doathing6397]

Thanks for the video. It might be helpful to zoom in a little bit on the graphs next time. I couldn't really see them well (even on my PC).

[@mlegrand]

Which graphics were the worst? The GPS and heart rate data? I'm trying to make these videos better and feedback like this is super helpful. Thanks!

[@doathing6397]

@@mlegrand Yes, exactly. At 11:42 on this one I can read Power, Cadence and Heart Rate, but making out the names of the devices was really hard. KZbin is auto-setting me to 720p, but manually bumping to 1080p does help (I didn't try that then). That's on my desktop. I just checked on my Pixel 6 too and its basically the same issue. I also noticed the top and bottom were grayed out (you were discussing heart rate) but there was a clear fluctuation in the data on both top and bottom graphs so seeing if that played out, and how on the center data would have been useful. Zooming in to discuss that portion might have helped. I think I've seen one of the other fitness-watch reviewers do something like that. Maybe it's desfit? They zoom in and show areas were tracking was off for each device.

[@doathing6397]

Also I just checked at 12:09 too and it discovered if you pause on mobile you can zoom in. Didn't know that before! It helped a lot, but I don't see a way to do that on desktop.

[@mlegrand]

@@doathing6397 - Yes, that sounds like DesFit. We use the same software to compare data. Thanks so much for the feedback!

[@PapaFlorez]

Does it have live tracking?

[@mlegrand]

Not that I'm aware of.

[@Return2Running]

Garmin 255 vs coros pace 3 as a runner only. Who does 5k 10k and half marathon whick one and why. Need to compare app features when comparing... Good content regardless. So tawn between these 2 money 💰 is not a issue but still unsure

[@mlegrand]

The 255 if you're trying to figure these two out. The 255 is loaded with more features. If money isn't an issue, I'd look at the 965 as well. 👌🏻

[@claudiojaramillo5177]

Quick update at 17:01 - The Coros Pace 3 now supports HRV since update 3.13

[@mlegrand]

Awesome! Thank you for the correction. I’ll mention that in my upcoming 100 day review. 🙏

[@juanperez-hq2dj]

SOLO DIGO ALGO OBJETIVO. Se puede comprobar; haces una simulación, en Coros intenta hacer devolución, SOPORTAS GASTOS LO DICE CLARAMENTE, pides presupuesto en Fedex, compañía que recomiendan para devolución (introduces simulación: 0,5 kg, medidas 12 por 12 por 12, tal como Coros lo envía, has de enviarlo a USA), y fin, 135 a 195 € el envío. De verdad que así me quedaré con el reloj, y con gusto. Pero hay que reconocer la mala política de devoluciones de Coros.

[@mlegrand]

Me encantaría revisar los servicios al cliente de estas empresas. Creo que sería extremadamente interesante y creo que es algo que muchos KZbinrs ignoran. Intentaré encontrar una manera de probarlo.

[@Elputragayus]

Best review channel! ❤❤

[@Elputragayus]

Just simply thank you for making this video💯

[@mlegrand]

Wow, thank you so much! That means a lot to me. Thank you for watching. 👍

[@Kiev-in-3-days]

Great value. But sadly still no USB-C charging and no replacable battery.

[@mlegrand]

I would love to see more replaceable battery options. And/or wireless charging. 🤔 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@asoro_1632]

Does it measure Running cadence?

[@mlegrand]

Yes it does.

[@krytopi]

Hi thanks for the very good review! Just wanna ask if you can play music directly on the watch speaker without pairing to a bluetooth speaker or earphones?

[@mlegrand]

Not that I know of. I think it requires the headphones. 🎧

[@Jay-sd9ye]

I'm liking it. Although idk if it's enough for me to change from my forerunner 955. The music was a big yes. But other than that not much difference between the pace 2 and pace 3. Idk if it's worth a purchase. But 200ish bucks can't go wrong. I'll definitely be recommending this one for others. Nice video, good info.

[@mlegrand]

Thanks Jay. Yeah, I get excited about watches that are really great value. I love to have something that I can recommend to people that isn't $1000. 🤦‍♂️ But no, I wouldn't switch away from that 955 of yours. That's a really nice watch. Hope you're doing well buddy. 👍

[@chriscotton4207]

Lol I think the 955 is a bit ahead here. It's nice but different category.

[@Jay-sd9ye]

@chriscotton4207 I agree. I have the pace 2, which is very comfortable. If the pace3 had a few extras I'd switch. But yes, 955 is better.

[@feartheroo42]

Ok, so I can get a Place 3 for the same price as a Fenix 6. I am not a hard-core athlete, but I do like the looks of the Fenix. heart rate and GPS accuracy are kind of important to me, but not dealbreakers. Just not sure if the old technology that probably will not be supported much longer would be worth it versus the new technology. I have some history in the Garmin ecosystem, but I can always change. I know it’s a tough question, but help?

[@mlegrand]

I think the Fenix 6 will hold up better day after day. It’s a significantly nicer watch.

[@feartheroo42]

@@mlegrand thank you sir. I was just worried about the age, and how much longer it would be supported. But that’s reassuring to hear. Thank you again, keep up the great work!

[@ola95003]

I think its still a bit sad that a 200 to 250 watch cant give you audio information, like to change intervals or tell you the pace. A galaxy watch 4 is 150 and can do a lot like. People also complain about battery life, but you simply put to charge while taking a shower and getting ready and the watch has 100%. Now for long periods of exercise yes battery is very important. But the audio cues is what bothers me in this watches.

[@mlegrand]

Great comment. My theory is that companies like Coros simply haven’t given the feature a serious thought. I don't think it's a technically difficult challenge. They'd just need to take the time to do it. The audio would also have to come from via the bluetooth connected speakers. This watch doesn't have a true speaker obviously.

[@parkerkerth8446]

putting the pace 3 through its paces... pun intended? :)

[@mlegrand]

Actually totally unintended but I noticed the same thing when I was editing. 😂

[@DarkPa1adin]

Just for running metrics, which is better? fr265 or pace 3?

[@mlegrand]

They're pretty similar but I'd say the 265 has a touch more features. Training Readyness and stuff like that. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@jazznroll5]

I am a person for whom, money IS an issue, needs reading glasses and appreciates nice aesthetics. So i want to say this: - i don't regret for a single moment spending 650 for garmin 965. - i deeply regret spending 550 for garmin 955, to the point of thinking, hitting the watch hard with a hammer, putting in a box and send it back to garmin with the message "shove it to any available hole". The reason for all this is that they released 965 a few months after 955 and 965 was the watch i really wanted. - relevant to pace 3 and similar watches, any watch without amoled display and nice graphics does not worth it, even if you get if for free. My favorite use of 965 at the moment, is eating pizza, drinking wine and watching the stress glance showing score 95....yep, i think i am on the right track for my next race....

[@mlegrand]

I was pretty disappointed that Garmin released that 965 right after the 955 also. (you might have picked that up in my videos). But my wife's sight is bad also and she's been using my 965 a lot lately. I'm letting her try this Pace 3 but I think the font sizes might be just a bit too small for her ultimately. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@DarkPa1adin]

Lol. If money is an issue you wouldn't eat pizza and drink wine😅

[@Matt-iy2cf]

For someone who uses coros watch you are talking down the watch and its hardware way too much.

[@mlegrand]

Talking it down?

[@youpigirl5731]

Coros fait beaucoup d'efforts pour satisfaire ses utilisateurs, et n'est pas dans une sur enchère du toujours plus cher. J'ai commencé avec la Pace 2, l'Apex pro et maintenant l'Apex pro 2. Je n'ai besoin de rien de plus. J'aimerais plus de fonctionnalités sur leur application, qui est, par ailleurs géniale, je trouve. Surtout que l'on peut voir ses données sur smartphone et ordi. J'aimerais beaucoup que Coros incorpore des données : running utilisées chaque jour, ressenti à la journée, et pouvoir comparer sur plusieurs jours toutes ces données. Car j'essaie de comprendre pourquoi tel jour je cours bien et pourquoi un autre c'est moyen. Parfois je cours médio pied, drop mini, parfois je cours talon drop plus élevé. Et je m'aperçois que je cours plus vite avec drop 4 mm et bien sur, surtout, en running carbone. Un comparatif de toutes ces données serait super sur l'ordinateur. Je pense que c'est faisable, même si je ne suis pas informaticienne. Je quitterai pas Coros de sitot, j'aime trop leurs boutons de navigation et leur application simple et claire

[@mlegrand]

Awesome! I’m glad you’re enjoying your Coros watches. That would be a very insightful app feature. Let’s hope Coros has something like that in the works. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@jolynsalgado3565]

Corros pace 3 or amazfit t rex 2? Please guide me on my daily jogging

[@mlegrand]

Me personally, I’d go for the Pace 3. But I have videos on both watches if you want to learn more.

[@L-dw5sx]

Pace 3 no brainier

[@Gunbardo]

What rubbish, there is no such “rule”… entry devices are simply entry because they’re the first generation. Improvements and innovations are made, which gives rise to 2nd/3rd gen…. Consumers are not dumb, we can tell if a product is good or just a gimmick…

[@mlegrand]

No it's a strict rule. Punishable by death here in the country of Enchantedrealm. Hopefully the CEO of COROS is safe.

[@opteron1983]

I have a Pace 2 with bunch of dead pixels on the screen. and i picked up a 735xt from garmin last year during their thanksgiving sale. I will probably be picking up a pace 3 and selling of the garmin i really like the coros app and for my use case its at a fantastic price point. the on device storage means i can load up a playlist and just go with no phone.

[@mlegrand]

Awesome plan. Keep me posted on if and how you like the Pace 3. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@funkyfragrancelover2979]

This is comparable to the Garmin 255. Only problem with Pace 3 is lack of ANT sensor support and GPS accuracy isn’t as good as Garmin. Coros Touch screen is a bit laggy and does not support music syncing with streaming services, manual mp3 files only.

[@mlegrand]

I think that’s a fair assessment. Is this a watch you’ve been testing?

[@gujenio]

I don’t think so, fr 255 have, hrv, score sleep, stress score, fc second by second, ant+, it’s better than the coros, but it’s more expensive

[@funkyfragrancelover2979]

@@gujenio in the UK the Pace3 is £219 and the Garmin 255 is £229. A difference of £10 so both are very similar in price.

[@tubasweb]

Why are you comparing this to an apple watch? That's not a running watch it's just a fashion accessory.

[@mlegrand]

I'm guessing you've never run with an Apple Watch after about a series 6 or so? They're accurate. I wouldn't hesitate to suggest one to someone who is training for a marathon as long as they're fully onboard with the entire Apple ecosystem.

[@MikeTango51]

Maybe because the Apple Watch is extremely accurate for fitness tracking as well as everything else it does. Easily the best heart rate monitor and algorithms based on my anecdotal experience. GPS is super accurate too. You don’t have to like Apple but they ARE good for fitness.

[@mlegrand]

@@MikeTango51 - I've personally seen very accurate data from modern Apple Watches. (About series 6 and above for example) Battery life is a different story.

[@MikeTango51]

@@mlegrand battery life is the worst!. I’ve had a bunch of fitness trackers over the years. Went back to Apple from Garmin because of a deal and I wanted cellular capability on the watch. It’s been about a year with the Apple and it’s been super accurate especially during weight lifting sessions. However, the pull to get back to Garmin ecosystem due to battery life and some better health metrics is strong. Been interested in Coros too just not sure how I feel about them yet. Waiting for late summer to see what new drops come from Garmin and Apple to ultimately decide.

[@itzStrFtw]

Wtf is the bike cassette doing there? Does this also come in the box? Weirdass

[@mlegrand]

My ass is so weird. But yes the bike cassette come with every watch that I review on this channel.

[@mx5021]

NFC?

[@mlegrand]

Not that I know of. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mx5021]

@@mlegrand Thanks!

[@nachot6592]

The value of the pace series is amazing. I get why this is the watch of choice for serious runners. Yes, the features are amazing for the price, but the fact it is so small, light, and comfortable is the real highlight of the series. (This is where I actually wanted to post this 😂)

[@mlegrand]

That YT mix up was super weird. I wonder what happened there. But yes, I agree. This is an amazing watch for the price. Thanks for posting this here. 👍

[@ThePenguin134]

nah its not the watch of choice for serious runners. Its the watch of choice for runners who need to stick to a budget. There are many higher end options that provide more

[@Itsmekvn]

@@ThePenguin134the greatest marathoner of all time is wearing a pace watch lol

[@RallihSarl]

@@ThePenguin134 Why isn't it for serious runners?

[@nachot6592]

@@Itsmekvn haha IKR? He just needs to go to a track and see what watches are people wearing.

[@neletg]

I bought a Suunto 9 Peak for €211 on August 12. Impeccable tracks in open water swimming, beautiful design, but I returned it after three unexpected restarts. I was going to buy another 9 Peak, but seeing that Coros was going to release the Pace 3, I wanted to see your review first. Thanks Matt!

[@mlegrand]

Sorry it took me a little bit to get this review put together and out the door. It was a bit later than I wanted but it’s a great watch and I wanted to do it justice. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@markhill8590]

I have the Garmin 965/Epix pro gen 2 51mm....but for some reason i just keep going back to the pace 3....really is just the perfect watch for running, its not trying to be anything but a running watch which is why i like it 😊

[@mlegrand]

Good call Mark! It's a very simple lightweight device. Perfect for our very simple sport! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@karelkalus7319]

I now have Pace 2 for over 2 years. It's impressive to see what changed by the time. From simple "find my phone" feature to turn-by-turn navigation - something you're not used to seeing at this price tag. The app is leaping forward as well, although seeing my wife's Garmin app, it is still better, in my opinion, but I root for Coros as it gets closer with each update. The only downside for me was that no one in Europe could fix the broken screen. I would have to send it to the US for repair, which is close to buying a new Pace. But this information is from around a year ago. They may provide services in Europe now. Apart from the little chip from the stone, the plastic body holds up bravely through MTB and landscaping. I'm impressed with the value. 👍

[@mlegrand]

Wow, both MTB and landscaping would be a good durability testing. Glad the Pace 2 has held up well. I've been a huge fan of that device and this Pace 3 is impressing me as well. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@karelkalus7319]

@@mlegrand Yeah, I tested it more than I would like to on the MTB 😁 Also thanks for your reviews! I'm always checking them when on the market for a new watch.

[@mlegrand]

@@karelkalus7319 - You're very welcome buddy! Need to start venturing out of the watch review niche so you'll have more reasons to stop by. 🤔

[@GarminPro]

I just ran a 10k and most all the “serious” runners seemed to have this watch interesting. Maybe it’s the size. But it was def the most popular I observed.

[@mlegrand]

That is interesting. I would have guessed an Apple Watch or a Garmin.

[@gothicgorey]

Small , light and comfy with brilliant battery

[@Running4Fitness]

Thanks for the information...I think not enough reasons to update form Coros Pace2

[@mlegrand]

Hopefully you're still enjoying the Pace 2 and maxing out the value of that device. 👌 There will always be newer bigger better stuff in the future.

[@andynickles7505]

I need a watch that has dual time zones. UTC in particular. I like the watch but I’m going to have to return it unless someone can tell me how I can add UTC to a watch face or a widget.

[@mlegrand]

I haven’t seen that as an option. It’d be nice if a second time zone was an option as a watch face complication to scroll through with the back button and then the up and down scroll wheel. 🛞

[@maurod]

hello from Argentina. Thanks for your review but one question. At same price coros pace 3 or polar pace pro? thanks a lot for your help

[@mlegrand]

Personally I would pick the Coros Pace 3.

[@suhasinimadhuryachennubhot9342]

How is the sleep analysis on this watch?

[@mlegrand]

It’s ok. I really like Garmin’s Morning Report. COROS reports on a lot of the same metrics but it’s just not summarized. Thugs like sleep duration or HRV are in the drop down widgets area. 👌

[@JB_0510]

Your review made me make my descision to buy the pace 3 over a garmin! Thanks

[@mlegrand]

You’re welcome. I also like Garmin watches but glad I was helpful in some small way with your decision. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@redos111]

Polar look how another generation is made! Hw + sw upgrade, not only new number!

[@mlegrand]

I’ve been a bit worried about Polar. 🤔

[@SpeedDawn]

Sound managing in this video is very appreciate !

[@mlegrand]

Thank you kindly! I some times over do it 😬

[@kithinders1086]

Saw the legs in the intro and thought "Those canNOT be Matt's legs??" HA! (tell your wife!) The nylon bands...do they get to smell funky over time? RUNNING POWER!? (that was said in a dramatic voice) Man, you are exact with your guesstimates! Is that wallpaper behind you? The HR data does look good! You are so helpful in your reviews and really up front. I love that. My watch updated firmware (don't ask if it is beta or the stock upgrades- I have no idea!), but it classifies rides now. At least I think it does...it told me today was "threshold" which I think is unbelievably cool. Say...while I have your attention. High school level athlete wants to better monitor recovery and efforts. What's his best watch option? This one, with the lack of HRV, doesn't seem like it is it. Garmin 255? If he doesn't like to charge things, step up to the instinct 2S (I could be making up that naming) but the newest instinct? The 255 and Instinct are pretty similar, minus the battery difference, right? Thanks for being our guiding light

[@mlegrand]

Yes, I think you’re right to be looking at the 255 or Instinct 2. That wood paneling behind me is real. I put it a while back and it’s kind of fun but typically it’s out of focus so you don’t really see it.

[@varenmagazine7875]

HRV is now there on the Pace 3

[@mawilliams777]

My very young daughter now has my Pace 2 as I just don’t want to get rid of it.

[@mlegrand]

She is a lucky lady. I love that watch. You’ll love the Pace 3. Eventually. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍