MLM HORROR STORIES #48 | MLM rep claiming that her supplements can cure cancer

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[@missfitbrat271]

I like how Jane was chill about someone assuming she was a seggs worker but pissed someone said she was in a pyramid lmao

[@timriehl1500]

LOL!!! So wild.

[@karenneill9109]

I thought that was pretty funny, too.

[@kasandrarobins4938]

I literally had to pause and laugh 🤣 I can't believe she reacted that way.

[@MidnightAndLuna]

Yeah, that was crazy! 😂😂

[@baby.yogurt]

is being a SWer on par with being in a pyramid scheme?

[@DreamingCatStudio]

Omg the Young Living “therapist” was horrifying. What a breach of trust, especially when the writer was vulnerable. So glad she reported the unscrupulous therapist.

[@EnchantingWings1]

I've had an experience of my ex therapist swerving conversations towards doTERRA if I used my Plant Therapy oils in session to ground myself. I scrambled to find a new therapist after that.

[@kimspeer6394]

My midwife tried to get me to sell melaleuca

[@DreamingCatStudio]

@@EnchantingWings1 😢

[@DreamingCatStudio]

@@kimspeer6394 😢

[@jenniferfootman3257]

As an MSW student, the NASW code of ethics is heavily drilled into us. By pushing oils, the therapist breached not only a conflict of interest, but also breached the standard of not using your position as a therapist to take advantage of your client.

[@arceus483]

I'm a therapist and the young living story had me fuming! She was waaaaay out of line. We do not have the training or expertise to mess with medication and she is 100% violating both ethical and legal standards. I'm so glad she got reported and even happier that the author of the story is now with a good therapist.

[@burnttoastspacegirlfriend8769]

Me too! I’m halfway through my master’s in clinical rehabilitation counseling and want to share this horror story with my practicum group! I felt so gross and angry when Hannah read that story.

[@amyallds2176]

This doesn’t have anything to do with an MLM, but years ago my then husband got one of his therapist friends to try to convince me I was possessed by a demon! All our kids went to the same elementary school, and this “therapist” talked about this with other parents!! I wish I’d reported her, but I was stuck in an abusive relationship and wasn’t thinking clearly. The therapist story made me so mad!

[@Alyse_bell]

@@amyallds2176 omg that is wild. Hopefully your doing better now

[@ragenbostrom8075]

Ethical misconduct

[@heafnerme]

@@burnttoastspacegirlfriend8769 I’m a Rehabilitation Counselor! There are not many of us out there so it’s nice to see this!

[@bagelprince3]

was flipping through my mom's YL "guidebook" and randomly landed on a page for "treatments of abuse". they literally NEVER suggested going to a therapist or finding somewhere safe to go to to escape. no, instead, try all of these expensive oils! deadass some of them were named things like "forgiveness" and the suggestion for physical abuse was to apply that oil to the spots where you were fucking assaulted. absolutely disgusting. ive been trying to get my mom to stop taking stock in that piece of garbage book and that was one that opened her eyes a bit. still working on things with her, luckily she isnt actively buying from them anymore but she is using up the rest of her points from over the years.

[@lyndsayblassingame3797]

That is absolutely disgusting. Smh I cNt even process that it's so bad. Wow! Glad you are there to help your mother.

[@s0lastsummer7]

I AM ACTUALLY SPEECHLESS.

[@s0lastsummer7]

..... sorry for screaming. I'm rarely without words. 😱

[@carsonheschle642]

I am glad to see you survived the Optavia fuelings 😂❤️

[@krystalmooradian]

Was totally thinking the same thing 😆

[@Kimmiejoy88]

Same. No lie I was worried 😂

[@TiffanyG8675309]

Plot twist: she filmed this video before she filmed the fuelings one. 😂 I'm just kidding. 😁

[@krystalmooradian]

@@TiffanyG8675309 😂 it did cross my mind lol

[@TiffanyG8675309]

@@krystalmooradian 😂😂 Hannah needs to comment and let us all know that she is OK 😂

[@katikat116]

As a resident in counseling, I am horrified by the therapist. I'm glad she was reported, but I might also recommend mentioning what happened to the psychiatrist as well, to make sure he/she does not refer clients to Stacy inadvertantly. Therapists and psychiatrists often work together and collaborate when caring for mutual clients, so this might be important to mention, especially if the counselor was trying to suggest client going off their meds... So glad she found a better therapist!

[@liftpanic]

When my daughter was diagnosed with MS in 2015, a Young Living hun at her workplace lost no time making recommendations! And we're talking about licensed board-certified health care professionals.

[@melt3563]

Ugh, I am so sorry she had that experience rather than the support she needed.

[@babyturkey8342]

I'm a recovering drug addict and in 2018 I was fresh out of rehab, in sober living and with no job. I went to a marykay party with a friend just to get out of the house and the woman who held the party blew me up for WEEKS!! She even called me from different numbers when I stopped answering. Told her I had been put of rehab for just a month with no job AND that my mother was paying my rent. This woman said "can you ask your mother for 150$ for the starter kit? You'll get it back in the first couple of weeks". I was mortified 😭

[@akaneakane1969]

Whatever license that therapist has should be revoked, she's actually causing so much potential harm to anyone she's employed by, holy crap

[@hlayman]

as someone currently in school to become a licensed counselor / therapist, the young living therapist story is incredibly upsetting. that therapist broke numerous ethical guidelines and should not have a license. im so glad the writer was able to see the red flags and has a proper care team now. thinking about how many vulnerable people that therapist could have harmed with her brainwashed beliefs.....its unspeakable. im so glad she was reported and i hope she is investigated thoroughly

[@ericasnyder5109]

Stacy the “therapist” needs her license taken away NOW, this makes my blood absolutely boil. Establishing trust and being so vulnerable is a very scary place to be. Hannah you are so right, something like this can be a matter of life or death. This makes me so sad 😢

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Brandi, I'm so sorry. I'm a cancer patient too and was diagnosed in 2021 as well after not feeling right. Stage IV kidney cancer at age 23. I'm still undergoing treatment, but I don't expect to last too long. If I got pitched an MLM as a result of my cancer, I don't think I would be able to contain my anger. I would lose it and yell at the person.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Someone on Reddit yesterday said in a response to a comment saying that I'm a generally negative person, and someone replied saying they were sorry but maybe my negative attitude was the reason I got cancer. I was seeing red.

[@Alyse_bell]

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep I am sorry that happened. You didn’t cause your own cancer by being negative, it’s not your fault at all. I hope your doing well and your entitled to feel negative about the situation as it’s a shitty situation.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

@@Alyse_bell I am wondering what the hell that person was thinking saying something like that. I sincerely hope it was a troll, because someone genuinely thinking that feels somehow worse!

[@Alyse_bell]

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep exactly.

[@brandilittle6648]

I’m sorry to hear of your illness. My thoughts are with you! ❤️

[@MissCaloline]

As someone who had cancer in 2020 (I’m okay now!), the cancer story made me so mad I literally had to sit down and take a deep breath. „Don’t you want to do something about your cancer“ - oh my God, the rage I would have unloaded on this horrible excuse of a human being. This is so manipulative. People who have cancer are vulnerable, they don’t know if the treatment will actually work and are suffering from the side effects. To tell them that whatever shitty, expensive MLM product you sell can help you is so exploitive and horrible, I am at a loss of words. I would have called her out online and told her to f*** off, and I would have reported her to the company immediately. This is unacceptable behaviour. If somebody tells you they have cancer, your response should be „Oh no, I’m so sorry, I’ll be thinking of you and wish you a fast recovery, how can I help?“, and not „Oh great, a potential vulnerable victim for my pyramid scheme, let me pitch my crappy products to make money off of her!“ Anyway, great video Hannah! Wishing you all the best for your pregnancy! ❤

[@laurapardy8297]

OKAY BUT the fact she was more offended about about Monat being a pyramid scheme than being called a SEX WORKER LOLLLLLL💀

[@angelac5954]

Licensed therapist here! I’m so happy to hear that the therapist was reported. I’m disgusted that someone (especially a therapist) would encourage anyone to stop psychotropic medications so that you can take “miracle oils”. This is SO DANGEROUS. Glad they got away from Stacy!

[@sarahrose9944]

If story #2 found Stacy through a referral, they should also inform the doctor that gave the referral about the illegal activity and filed reports.

[@Keshlynne]

The therapist makes me so mad. I have patients ask me all the time about essential oils, and my response is that they are welcome to try lavender or peppermint oil (or whatever scent they're asking about) for the calming scent, but that they won't heal you of anything. They just make the environment a little nicer, which is sometimes enough to help with anxiety, but I don't suggest any particular company (that would be unethical), and I certainly don't suggest it as a cure (that's immoral)! I don't have the right to recommend patients come off medication unless I'm seeing problematic changes, and even then I reach out to their PSYCHIATRIST (which I am not) and have a discussion and make suggestions. That's part of being on a treatment TEAM. That patients care is not solely in my hands, but in the hands of multiple people.

[@opticillusion792]

I never comment BUT I had a family doctor tell me to “just stop” taking my psych meds. That is never okay, when you have a mental problem - never “just stop “ ANY prescription medications, ever.

[@S-R-H]

I am furious. Thank God she reported Stacy. I worked as a psych RN for years, and now I'm waiting on my background clearance to get my law license. Stacy was SO inappropriate. The boundaries she crossed are insane...and don't even get me started on malpractice.

[@soybeanokra]

I really identified with the girl in the therapist story. I have a lot of the same conditions, including a binge disorder. I gained weight during my recovery (very normal), and my therapist NEVER would have said the solution to my insecurities was to “lose weight.” Old Navy’s BodEquality project really helped me understand my body and embrace body neutrality. They made me feel just like everyone else-I could finally shop in the store with people my age, have the same options and amount of options as everyone else, and I got to stand in the mirror in clothes that fit comfortably and looked flattering. As a fat person, feeling “normal” shouldn’t be underestimated for my mental health, and I can’t imagine how this therapist affected this writer’s mental state.

[@AeriaGl0ris]

I'm so glad that therapist got reported! The field does not need people like her. If I had to choose between sex work and joining an MLM, you'd catch me making an OF account. At least I could set a fair price and really make my own hours without an upline breathing down my neck all hours of the day. And none of those Zoom calls that devolve into screamfests.

[@jennfoley]

I used to work in public accounting, where I did bookkeeping for someone at the top of DoTerra, and needless to say, it gave me the ick. This woman made somewhere between $10K-$15K per month from commissions/bonuses (ie from her downline) and less than $1000 per month in actual product sales

[@brandilittle6648]

Thank you so much for reading my email!!! I had to share because this was so predatory!!

[@brandilittle6648]

And yes, Hannah, I’m in remission!!

[@aordinarygirl7403]

@@brandilittle6648 so happy to hear you’re in remission!! Praise the Lord!

[@ladyv5655]

If my friends were mistaking my side hustle for being an s** worker, it would make me rethink my life choices.

[@SoCalJellybean]

I’m loving that the Monat hun wasn’t at all offended by people assuming she was a sex worker, but as soon as she’s affiliated with “pyramid scheme” she goes off!! (To be clear, I’m not shaming people who ARE sex workers, I just find it funny that she’s SOOO sensitive about being told she’s in a pyramid scheme… gosh, I just can’t understand why! 😂)

[@codex_jinora]

Oh man this title gave me Vietnam War flashbacks. I used to severely suffer from PMS, my emotions were all over the place and that combined with anxiety disorder meant I was literally crying myself to sleep every night thinking I was gonna die or the world was gonna end. We tried every kind of therapy. Eventually, lastly, we attempted aromatherapy, which is notoriously performed using essential oils. You bet your ass right after I trusted this lady enough to share my deepest traumas with her, she brought out Young Living. She put it in everything, even the tea we drank... I'm not sure that's safe, and it was certainly disgusting. Anyway, I quit another 2 sessions after that. I couldn't stand the MLM mom vibes dripping off of that house.

[@MindiB]

I did graduate training in counseling psychology and agree that the MLM pitch to clients is COMPLETELY inappropriate and a clear violation of professional ethics. So proud of the young lady who reported this “therapist” and I hope this quack got a reprimand from a professional organization. She should have lost her license (if she had one). Appalling.

[@univalentmeg]

Therapist here. Just wanted to clear up that folks with a PsyD don’t prescribe in any state, they are clinical psychologists and not Psychiatrists. It’s important to be clear about that as folks might seek out medication through a therapist that can’t prescribe. MDs|psychiatrists are the only folks that can prescribe.

[@dianemartel5205]

Charlotte Dobre is one of my favourite KZbinrs as well. I can’t praise her and thank her enough for the entertainment she’s brought into my reality. I love your stuff, too, of course!

[@AllLifeIsTravesty]

My God, if my therapist heard of the one in that first story they would be *enraged.* How they even managed to get a license when they're that unethical is both offensive and terrifying.

[@babyturkey8342]

Same!! So grateful for the therapist I have cause I'd die if she tried getting me off my meds to replace with some lavender oils 😭

[@ghjgme]

Goodness, I do not love people touching me, the entire sonic scenario unsettles me. Think the image of Kuzco (ala Emperors New Groove) "No touchy."

[@DoingStuffWithDiana]

Hannah, I don’t think I’ve ever stopped to let you know how much I appreciate how respectful you are when reading people’s stories. I only recently noticed the stark differences between creators and very much prefer your style❤ thank you!

[@fimbles4211]

Everyone gather round, it's another horror stories upload!

[@lizzfrmhon]

Wow being a therapist and falling for MLM then using a professional practice of people needing real serious help to peddle oils. The nerve!!!

[@ShiningDragon1991]

Low key would LOVE to see a collab with Hannah and Charlotte...

[@maisieharris5864]

I like to answer the rhetorical question of "what is that?" out loud and cheering "A PYRAMID SCHEME" alone in my room

[@CatsOverBrats]

The perfect Christmas gift would be for Hannah to make MLM horror stories videos everyday for the entire week between Christmas and New Year.

[@Aashka_The_Mystic]

Ugh, the whole pretending to be your friend thing happened to me with a coworker. She invited me over to do a workout and I thought she wanted a workout buddy but then she pitched the MLM afterwards with the colored containers and workout videos. I was bummed and felt like she thought so low of me that she could trick me into thinking she wanted to be friends to peddle her crap. I mean, I don't have a lot of friends because I'm really picky. I'm not lonely on friends lol. She also helped another person with her LuLaRoe sales.

[@libertymedicalcommunicatio4908]

Story 3 wins again for most outrageous. It points out the phenomenon of plausible deniability that has been studied By Claudia Gross and others. Excellent analysis as always.

[@whiteglovian]

my sister also had a therapist shill oils and putting it on her bare flesh, when she was around 10 and getting bullied really bad

[@cherishisgrace]

Story 2: First part had me 🤦🏾‍♀️, glad you didn’t fall for it and hopefully it was also a wake up call for mama to not tell her daughters business to other people. Second part: congratulations on the steps you have been taking to get and stay clean and addressing your mental illness! Great job on reporting the therapist!

[@hlolypop]

I didn’t realize my mlm horror story was a horror story until recently. My doctor recommended a vegan diet plus buying juice plus from his wife (thankfully I didn’t). The horror story turned out to be that I became very very ill and malnourished on a vegan diet and both of them lead me astray.

[@readerchick1]

That is horrifying!! I hope you reported him!

[@starlingswallow]

I am so sorry you went through that!! 😢 That is scary stuff, girl! Glad you're ok now ❤

[@pinkskies8128]

The perfect audio accompaniment to my house cleaning tasks. 👍

[@ladytimeoin]

What sucks about the oily therapist is that it was almost helpful advice with the peppermint. As part of my DBT (dialectical behaviour therapy) we explored scents and smells that were pleasant and distinct to use when we felt dissociated or out of control. Mine is peppermint tea, a friends was coffee beans. Others did use essential oils bought in the discount shops. It would have been useless to try and use it mid crisis. But it is one of many tools I use along with taking medication etc.

[@user-ec8de1lo2d]

Therapist changing her professional description to “naturopath” = “they yanked my license for gross violations of professional ethical duties to clients.”

[@katestewart6274]

Working up the courage to share my stories of toxic MLM Hun relationships and the icky tactics that were suggested, especially with disabled individuals 😖

[@kateemma22]

A guy is being shady and has a backpack in a public place... this will either end in the police being called or an MLM being mentioned. Neither is good.

[@nicolesnaturalpath8010]

I'd love for you to do a Kangan water deep dive !! Love those. And I keep hearing about it recently lol

[@CieraMychele]

Omg I also found you under a Charlotte video! Love to watch u guys

[@justpeachy4393]

I used to work as a therapist... You're not supposed to sell stuff to your clients lol

[@tomsheppard378]

Therapy helped me cope with PTSD, I wouldnt think essential oils would be so beneficial

[@heatherburrell8412]

As a primary care family practitioner……… I have seen a significant uptake in mental stress in younger generation…… the 1st letter is not wrong that aroma therapy can be a tool …to calm or stimulate the olfactory receptor with positive impact ……. A tool but not cure …… meds should always be taken or stopped only with professional provider ….. I encourage my patients t to seek as many tool as possible …but would never claim a cure ….. mental health challenge can be a life long struggle ….. not a quick cure ….so sad

[@Akiku2]

A family friend asked me recently how to handle a friend in an mlm. Taking your advice, I told her not to try to get the person out of it. I also told her not to buy anything from them. Support them as a person, but let them know that you do not support that particular business model. I told her to be clear to the person that they are not interested in buying anything, but to also not try to send them anti-MLM content. All that does is drive the person deeper into the MLM. Aside from my sister using proactive, which may have been made by an MLM, this is the closest I’ve ever come to dealing with MLMs. Edit: upon further research, while Roden and Fields did make ProActive, it was before they became an mlm.

[@shawnconway6009]

So, as someone who's had plenty of mental health problems and gone to a few therapists, you gotta be your own advocate, and if they aren't giving you what you want, you have to do what's best for you. I've heard a number of horror stories from friends, but it's a first for me to hear that someone tried to sell their patient oils. That's insane. And any therapist who'd tell a patient not to take meds is absolutely nuts.

[@LilBearZen]

Someone forgot “First, do no harm.” That therapist trying to get them off their meds really got me heated. It can take years to get your meds right, how dare she try to undo that kind of work.

[@shannontrent3702]

Just wow... The unethical therapist makes me angry. The pushy salesman at the end just creeps me out and I'd rather have a "Hey hun!" message than some guy at a fast food joint trying to touch and connect with me.

[@metalcatmom5891]

Lots of angry thoughts about the Young Living therapist. How dare she!!! 🤬. I went to school with someone who is now a LMFT (therapist) and she owns her own practice. I was very happy to find this out as I enjoyed the time we previously spent together as seat neighbors because as part of my job, I made referrals to mental health service providers for court involved youth almost everyday. Thankfully before my first referral, I drove by her practice and found that she advertised "therapeutic grade essential oils by Doterra." I never made a referral because I did NOT want to try to explain that to a judge. She lost quite a bit of business from me because of that (I made over 100 referrals each year.) Also, I'm a bit of a hippie. I have been using herbal supplements, organic essential oils, and eating chickweed from my yard long before it became main stream or cool. Young Living products are NOT pure essentials. Pure oils have no color, should NEVER be ingested, and should NEVER be applied more than 1 drop at a time because they can actually be harmful. My Mom and I were both gifted some Young Living oils and those bottles of garbage stained my diffuser beyond cleaning. They are terrible and should never be used. I love diffusing REAL lavender and peppermint organic essential oils when I go to bed, and I occasionally take a bit of valerian extract if I have trouble getting to sleep or relaxing....but ALL of the vitamins, supplements, and oils have been approved by my psychiatrist. If anxiety, depression, and PTSD could be "cured" by oils, supplements, diet, or exercise, I wouldn't pay the crap ton of money I pay to my absolutely wonderful and worth every penny psychiatrist....or my absolutely wonderful and worth every penny therapist. P.S. I did graduate from therapy earlier this year!

[@karrisneipen]

I have had to turn off videoes sometimes because my cat had started to look for the strange cat who is in our house lol. These videoes is sometimes better to watch when he is outside 😸

[@mayacorinne878]

there is nothing more satisfying than being one of the first 1000 people to watch your videos! Happy Thanksgiving, and thanks for giving me the perfect video to watch while I get ready today!

[@soggytortillla]

very random but hannah! i just thought your makeup was really cute in this vid :) thank you for making such important content and coming from an angle of compassion and education! your hard work isn’t going unnoticed. i’m so proud of how far you’ve come ❤️

[@katrink5424]

Wow congrats on editing this video yesterday on such short notice 🥳

[@atrain84]

Such an addictive channel!

[@bad_bau]

Genuinely schocked at the therapist story. That is BEYOND unethical. I am horrified that she is still allowed to practice in any capacity. Not only was she messing with medications (which she is not qualified to do) but she is also using the guise of therapy to push a scam. Based on the story, she wasn't even actually providing any actual therapy. Completely disgusting.

[@StephanieMarie]

Hi Hannah! I'd love to see a deep dive on Seint. Unfortunately, when you google or search KZbin for it, reviews show up all over. I'd love to see more anti-MLM content on it as I think they're expanding quite a bit.

[@ashlikefrompokemon4327]

I'm getting my masters in mental health counseling to be a therapist, and holy fuck that YL "therapist" makes me want to scream. How is she licensed?!? That was a huge breach of ethics and beneficence/nonmalficence, and she should be barred from practicing

[@evelynmwangi8624]

Poor girl, that therapist was sitting there, looking at her, pretending to listen to her but all she could see was how much money she would make off her. Shame on Stacy the Therapist

[@ThakYuki]

I had a little giggle at "I thought she was a S worker with this luxurious lifestyle."

[@lisabever2115]

As soon as you started talking about Stacy the therapist, I immediately thought ....NO! Please don't let the therapist be the hun!! How awful!

[@Taz_D128]

That is my favorite sweater you wear, looks so good.

[@horselover40]

There is a special place in hell for people who go to restaurants and dont eat. It is so rude, awkward, and embarrassing, and when I was put in a situation to do so against my will, I still bought one of the cheaper things on the menu.I didnt really have money to buy anything extra but I couldnt just go and buy nothing either.

[@catboymikey]

The person in the second story, I hope your doing well and I hope your recovery and therapy is going well!! You got this!!

[@starlingswallow]

Charlotte is my daily therapy! I love both of you ladies 🥰🥹

[@Alyse_bell]

Wow story 2, think you definitely dodged a bullet. Not only by avoiding an MLM but by avoiding signing up under someone that is obviously only nice to get recruits. I hope you told the doctor that refereed you to ‘Stacey’ so he never sends anyone else to her. Aromatherapy can be beneficial in terms of helping you relieve stress, but it’s not going to cure diseases or conditions. Hopefully she looses her license to practice

[@katrosemond6411]

omg thanks for reading my email (mine was the last one)!

[@Saburi0504]

Perfect timing to watch while I get ready for work! Much love to you guys, Happy Thanksgiving!

[@PacificallyYours]

I was a skating carhop! ❤ Tip your car hops peeps. And watch out for IW BB and YL!

[@joshuatidwell4503]

As a Licensed Professional Counselor that made me have to regulate because that was very dysregulating. I’m glad they got reported and I am so sad that this person had to go through this…

[@alyaniellewilliams7419]

Yesterday at Thanksgiving I could overhear my aunt pitching her Neumi Swish products to my mom for her dogs to use and all I could do was chuckle. Every family gathering is an opportunity. I can't wait to see if she tries it at my wedding in January 😂 thankfully no one in the family takes her seriously so we all just brush it off at this point

[@user-fl9tk1fj9d]

More people really need to see these videos. My brother almost fell victim to cutco

[@abbygibbs9735]

Yaayyy!! A new horror story video!! I've watched them all and only started watching you recently, these are my favs

[@HeavenlySedated822]

for story 2, i'm actually a licensed professional counselor and i cringed because it is sooo unethical to use the therapy session to push a shitty mlm product in session as it borders on crossing the boundary into dual relationships. also, it's one thing to sell oils or bibliotherapy resources through your practice, but you never want to make the therapy session about you selling whatever mlm you're peddling at the expense of the client's time. also it's unethical to make false claims about the effectiveness of a particular therapeutic method. glad she was reported!

[@candacestamper6769]

I need to send in my story about being pitched shakes at post-partum appointments by the nursing staff at my OBGYN.

[@Malevolentguppy]

I find it amusing how people look for things to get offended by. If I wanted to meet someone somewhere, even if it's only a few miles from their house, and they had to take public transportation of some kind, I would absolutely pick them up rather than make them spend extra time/money to meet me at the destination.

[@Dojan5]

Oh my goose. I love the jumper Hannah is wearing in this episode. It looks so comfy!

[@makeyoupretty]

Yay! I love having a fresh Hannah video to get me through the massive amount of chores I have to do today❤💚

[@junhvi]

always so excited for your horror story updates ❤️

[@kristinstocking3548]

I had been seeing a therapist for 3 years... When all of a sudden she decided to get into the herbal medicine sales. After a few hard pitches, I quit.

[@DefiantHeart]

I've had four MLM encounters, two of which were Primerica. The first of those two caused lasting damage to a friendship. I have a (real) sales job and the way these sketchy companies want sales done makes me cringe.

[@samanthaquant7411]

I was so proud of the one at sonic! She did such a great job standing up for herself!

[@ritamartins3996]

I've never been this early. Keep up the good work.

[@Ab3ndcgi]

Obligatory "not an mlm" but my sister started having midfullness meetings at work, and in a heartbeat she was pushing employees to order Bach flowers from her, and come to her "meditation retreats". To be fair, she did not charge for these (save for mandatory "tips and donations" in the meditation clases); so I say profit is not allways the motivation. Having a narcissistic saviour complex, or beign starved for admiration and praise as 🎉IS enough to send this people in a self rightgeous power trip towards trespassing behaviour

[@wolfhawk1999]

That therapist should lose her license

[@Shoot4AlarmFire]

I love essential oils and use them pretty much daily, from pain management to stress relief. But if my therapist told me I could be cured that way, I'd be pissed. Obviously, that's no true, as I do use oils, and I still have mental health conditions. But more importantly, it's unethical! I am not spending hundreds of dollars on therapy so that someone can tell me to sniff oils! Wow....

[@thekawaiicripple]

Oh boy I have a lot of experiences to send you, so happy I found your channel. As someone chronically ill I can’t even begin on the disgusting opportunistic huns I’ve had to deal with INCLUDING one of my doctors an infectious disease doctor of all people (you’d think she’d idk believe more in science than essential oils but..) and Huns purposely infiltrating the online illness support groups I used to be in

[@benefitnan]

Love you Hannah... Love your content..hope you and your family have a lovely Thanksgiving x

[@taylorslade961]

I live in rural PA and I make things. One of the main ways I sell the things I make is local craft fairs and the like. The MLM Huns have started buying spaces and setting up booths at these events. Once I had a Paparazzi Hun Bot spend almost $100 on things from me just to try to pitch me on Paparazzi.

[@CaliSaint]

When I got to work this morning the hosts on the radio were advertising for scentsy. As a whole. She said it was a good way to support local business. I was so disgusted and mad.

[@prettymess5908]

Hello Hannah! Could you please make a Herbalife deep dive? It's doing really well where I live and the people ( huns) look pretty cool! I appreciate your videos, they are very helpful in detecting the red flags in these types of job offers!

[@Krisna_K]

I found you through Charlotte’s videos too! I’ve posted a couple messages on the book of Faces warning friends and family that if they send me any MLM recruitment crap they will be immediately deleted from my friends list and my life! In the past I have helped my sister out with Tupperware (which I still love) and Partylites (which I also love but still have candles everywhere from both buying some and getting them as gifts from that sister))! But I NEVER help my own parties!

[@TenderKiss86]

It's hard enough to find help for mental health!