John Gotti Trial: Conviction - Discussion Part 2

John Gotti Trial: Conviction - Discussion Part 2 (1992)
#JohnGotti #GambinoFamily
For educational purposes.

[@MOBFAX]

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[@jimsmith8993]

This is how a discussion takes place. Respectful. No arguments. Mainly just facts and information.

[@luked8873]

Well there are no over grown children present at the table

[@chrisbgoodv2178]

This is what happens when there are no coloured people involved in a discussion.

[@LouisCsanko]

Who else is Binge watching These Videos ?

[@pdxoneway]

You know when this was on local live late night that every wise guy was sitting on the edge of their bed in their drawers and wife beaters yelling at the tv. It was either that or they were all watching this in their "social clubs" I'm sure it would've been gold to see

[@negativeproton4918]

John miller is great as a mob reporter brings out great points on both sides

[@kingxerxes3139]

People should stop saying that Gotti broke the rule by killing the boss. If their own boss Carlo Gambino killed his own boss, so he can be boss. It is normal that the Gambino family would do it again.

[@troysimpson997]

These are pure gold

[@leighgardner9832]

People sammy was not just brought in for gotti trial he also had to go as witness against many other trials that’s what his plea agreement was gotti was just first trial he was used for as a witness he put multiple people away

[@southie3177]

True

[@MrGarymuldoon]

Testified on 36 others, leading to countless more indictments and explained the entire inner workings of the mob, how they operate and infiltrate unions, rackets throughout many families like never before, being an underboss. King of rats

[@MrGarymuldoon]

Convicted 36 others*

[@illumination101]

@@MrGarymuldoon 39

[@illumination101]

@@MrGarymuldoon After being the key to convicting Gotti and Locasio, Gravano went on to help put away a total of 39 mobsters, including Vincent “the Chin” Gigante, the head of the Genovese family, along with bosses or underbosses of the Colombo, Lucchese and DeCavalcante clans.Apr 30, 2022

[@williamfeilhauer]

Old timer, you hit the bullseye 🎯 with that statement. He created the image his self.not the press.

[@TonyRizzo-h5f]

Creating an image is one thing , to be enamored of that image is another, he didn’t call the press

[@JB-qr2jq]

Amazing to see how back then the sympathy was with Gotti.

[@jillliachris]

Before cooperators had revisionist KZbin channels lol

[@Error_-qz2zr]

Probably because people were tired of the crooked politicians and police. Gotti was a cold blooded killer but the corrupt system was even worse to the eyes of a lot of people

[@keithjefferson2196]

Gotti never ratted.

[@mobkingsinfamousrats6115]

John Gotti made one mistake and that was getting close to Sammy the bull I understand the fact that he had a of trust in Frankie DeCicco Frankie spoke up for Sammy so John goes against his better judgment the sad point is everything that I've read everything that I've watched every documentary every mob channel everybody that speaks about this the one thing it leads to is John always questions himself about Sammy he should have known then but sometimes we get blinded by money sometimes we get blinded by what we see. And Americans have always liked bad guys from Billy the kid the Bonnie and Clyde and just for shits and giggles like the joker and Darth Vader but back to the seriousness John wasn't ashamed of who he was John knew exactly what he was he was a gangster he wasn't going to hide he wasn't going to sit back in the dark neither and anybody in their right mind knows that if they're a part of that life they're being watched all the time so he basically hit it on the number whenever he says anybody that's in that life that's saving money what do they got planned because at the end of the day they're dying in jail or they're dying from gun wounds yes his mistake was talking on those tapes I can admit that but he wasn't talking shit he was actually second-guessing everything that he had done for a man that he loved starting to question the loyalty of that man really was it for him or was it for himself none of us were there so we'll really never know but at the end of the day they know the rules he knew the rules someone falls on the sword for their boss is at the end of the day in my eyes it's just like how the movie says he has to wake up everyday and look at himself in the mirror and know that he's a rat because not only did he ride on Gotti he ride it on the chin he ratted on a lot of made guys that didn't say shit about him so fuck him he's a rat point blank back in November when Gotti was planning to whack him he should have

[@tjhookit]

Sammy is full of shit with the excuses he uses these days. He says John, while in prison, approached him and told him that he had to take the fall, and that is why he flipped. Meanwhile, in his book that came out in 1997......he says John NEVER approached him with any of that, but he had "figured out" that John would put it all on him. Also.....in Sammy's book, he wrote that when he first entered into the mafia life, he excepted the fact that by the age of around 40, he would either be dead, or in prison, and because he had accepted that, he lived without much fear. Well....in his 40's his prediction came true and he faced life in prison........but took the opportunity to bail himself out. If you are true cosa nostra you go down with the ship, no matter why it is sinking.

[@jillliachris]

@@tjhookit 100% on the money and well said

[@theycallmemrboombastic6870]

@@tjhookit very few gangsters went down with the ship i woildnt either if a big mouth couldnt keep his fucking mouth shut or became lazy and talked in the same place week in week out

[@Bt26x]

Facts man!! That rat was all about himself. Gotti never said a word. He kept it gangster to the end!

[@jillliachris]

@@Bt26x true

[@MeshalDagriri]

I love Mafia stories.. Especially while playing Minecraft.. such a horrible history

[@chrisbgoodv2178]

I notice that all of younguns have missed the point about a juror on the prosecution side caught lying, yet retaining her position on the jury.

[@zerofox7347]

It’s a pleasure and almost relaxing to watch this. They’re discussing instead of arguing and trying to out shine each other. How times have changed.

[@jeandarc5900]

Mickey Rourke! Ha! I’m sure that helped…

[@toshiojohnston3732]

Gotti went down for many reasons #1 the public like and was fascinated by him but when bland politicians and bland corporate chief do worse and steals more and the public distrust them the justice dept does nothing.

[@sox-on-a-duck693]

Question to the viewers: In your opinion, would Gotti have got convicted on the basis of the tapes alone, WITHOUT the testimony of Sammy? Yes or no?

[@MOBFAX]

No. I don’t think so. They needed Sammy to verify what was said in the tapes.

[@brianbelton3605]

@@MOBFAX Yes, the Feds would convict without Gravano. The Feds had Phil Leonetti waiting in the hallway, ready to testify. Long before Gotti was arrested, Leonetti was in front of a NY grand jury testifying to all the Philly mob and the Gambinos had done together, including Gottis detailed explanation of the Castellano hit. 4 people in the room discussing the month after the hit: Nicky Scarfo, Phil Leonetti, Gotti, and Gravano. This happened the month after the hit. Gotti wanted to tell Scarfo and Leonetti that he had permission to whack Paul.

[@Bobbyb732]

As they say, you can't cross examine a tape. So i would say yes.

[@leighgardner9832]

Yes

[@techbuildspcs]

Not a chance. Otherwise they would not have offered him a deal to make sure.

[@billkeaveney1526]

It's interesting listening to the people trying to argue Gotti should have walked free.

[@tonyrizzo615]

This is Gold Treasure !! John Gotti says fight fight fight ! ! A man’s man ! Sammy not so much ! Sammy knew the Sharks would eat him alive in the joint

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Did 20 years in jail. He didn't care. It was war Gotti told on him

[@tonyrizzo615]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 my time is valuable son , do your homework first

[@DanielRodriguez-og3yk]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 he wasn't in general population with the sharks. He was in a pc witsec unit with rats n child molesters.

[@southie3177]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 he did 20 years in pc

[@southie3177]

@@DanielRodriguez-og3yk true

[@oldtimer7635]

That wining (Talese) about Gotti getting convicted only because of his public image, is ridiculous beyond belief! He wanted that public image, he created that public image HIMSELF! And he loved it! Gotti created Gotti=Capone imagenary himself, because dummy he was.

[@MrGarymuldoon]

“Because dummy he was” pot meet kettle. Actually the media creates the characters, the quips, the stigma and headlines. If you’ve noticed he hardly said a word to the media and instructed his men not to either. Same kind of “dummy” probably has a thought process that media doesn’t play a part to promote violence in the form of serial killers and shooters.

[@oldtimer7635]

@@MrGarymuldoon "stigma"? What exactly is a stigma in this case? "He hardly said a word to the media" even there he tried his best to imitate his great hero, and I have to say, succeeded. Just another lazy crooke.

[@jillliachris]

How did Gotti create his public image.??? By leaving his house??? By going to court??? Gotti , just like every other mob boss , was a public figure., whether they wanted to be or not. The media has been using Gangsters to sell papers since Lucky and Capones days.

[@terrywilson588]

There is a big difference between accepting the limelight and creating it. He wasn't holding the cameras or writing the articles. I would agree that he loved it and it was definitely detrimental to him but to say he created is false

[@jillliachris]

@@terrywilson588 well said

[@calvinbriggs1840]

When ya look Back at What Sammy did with his opportunities left the program, house in Arizona,he takes that sets crew of kids, big Molly, ecstasy drug ring , now doing a podcast what life some of victims families were killer’s also but there was collateral damage

[@brutemegahunk3895]

John Miller is smart and articulate….could listen to this guy for hours talk about the mob.

[@MrBimirud]

NYPD and LAPD trusted Miller enough to hire him. Not sure cops trust any journos that much these days

[@K131399]

Great stuff. What a blast to see all this history unfold as it happened.

[@megdonnelly8519]

Everyone including the judge knew he was not getting 20 years

[@glennwetherbee4495]

Those juries in the earlier trials were fixed,

[@thorvalentinehatesytalgori2632]

Listening to Sammy's sit downs and then watching these is great.

[@denxero]

Sammy tries to scam and swindle his entirely life till the grave.

[@tonyrizzo615]

So Thor ! Let me ask you , what do you think and say about all this

[@thorvalentinehatesytalgori2632]

@@tonyrizzo615 About what? This is like traveling back in time and listening to what people said in the moment. No hindsight, just reaction in the moment. Not everyone was wrong in what they are saying. It's opinions about a bunch of people they heard stuff about. It shows mostly what the real mindset was at the time. That's invaluable. Little thing's they say here and there are insightful.

[@tonyrizzo615]

@@thorvalentinehatesytalgori2632 I’m sorry that wasn’t for you. I deleted the other comment I made

[@tonyrizzo615]

@@thorvalentinehatesytalgori2632 What I’m saying is they are revealing a lot I mean if you go back as far as I do enter inquiring about this whole mafia thing it all contradicts a lot of what Sammy says

[@68majortom]

pretty damn good show

[@zz3353]

Wish we could still have conversations like this today. Be cool to see politicians go down much worse than Gotti.

[@MrBimirud]

I'm just glad I'm not the prosecutor who has to ponder whether or not to make a deal with the devil to catch a devil.

[@techbuildspcs]

11:45 changed some of my perception on ghotti.

[@calvinbriggs1840]

Gotti was in that position long.then the way he got in that positionSammy and it’s over

[@mikeboxer5089]

wat great video wow rare content old school news reelz

[@UmpaX2]

Our Govt.’s really made Gravano pay a price, with their having relocated him to Scottsdale Arizona! Oh,The Torture Of It All!

[@nagone11]

I find it funny how they thought the mob was finished, but here we are 30 years later and the mob is still here, no way near finished. A great look back at history..

[@WilsonianGarveyite]

Hey brother. It's been a while. Still in the BLK manosphere?

[@nagone11]

@@WilsonianGarveyite You know it. Still rollin' with The Brain Trust as well.

[@johnmarshall4399]

Not what it was

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

The mob is more powerful than ever, but it's not the Italian mob.

[@dennissettlemyre917]

It'll always be here. Maybe not the same quality or schemes, but they'll always be replaceable

[@thornto888]

Krieger just talks shit bu his cliens eventually go to jail. "THe tapes don't show anything!!". Ummm, ok.

[@meddem1744]

John Gotti should have hired Jackie Chiles.

[@terrywilson588]

No lawyer had a chance on this case especially after sammy flipped

[@dennissettlemyre917]

Cutler wudda probably took his first loss in this one. The timing of them making up rules so Gotti had to switch made him look good tho

[@bobbywomack8262]

John Miller was the biggest kiss ass on Gotti if there ever was one! He would interview Gottis landscaper if he has one!!

[@jillliachris]

There was a good reason DaBull didn’t have to testify against his own crew. They had the real dirt on him.

[@Error_-qz2zr]

In the end yeah he served almost 20 years because he was too big of a news to give him a better deal they did with other guys like Phillip leoneti

[@freemindthinkerezrapound5071]

Mcalary is stomach wrenching to listen to a true member of the gutter press just another parrot spewing out garbage

[@Error_-qz2zr]

One of the best interviews i watched

[@letsgomets002]

Sammy only pulled the trigger on 2 hits....

[@vindivergilio3482]

At least Sammy had the balls to admit to what he did, unlike john who was nothing but a weezle.

[@lifeWizard435]

You’ve got that backwards. I didn’t want to believe it myself. But I did the research. Sammy is the worst of all humans can be. Don’t be fooled.

[@12floz67]

@@lifeWizard435 Doesn’t change the fact that he still admitted to his crimes. He was the underboss of the gambino crime family, of course he was a horrible person.

[@samgambino9695]

Sammy had no balls….. he ratted to save himself while John Gotti and Frank locasio took their sentences like men.

[@154g]

@@samgambino9695 id be mad aa hell if me and my friends did crimes, got away , only to have an idiot bring it up later on and get me arrested. Lol

[@samgambino9695]

@@154g the whole commission trial had people like Anthony ducks Corallo and Anthony Salerno on wiretaps too. These things happen and it’s the risk you take. Even big Paul’s house was wired for sound. Imagine if they was all mad at each other and started ratting on each other. It sounds stupid and isn’t cosa nostra. Sammy wasn’t made for that life and only wanted the money.

[@nealbeard1]

I can't wait to see if Gotti is found gulity.

[@moali4103]

All Makes sense now Sammy the story teller look how he makes people believe him

[@nealbeard1]

He can rewrite history.

[@englishfam9675]

Keep saying 19 murders like he murdered fairy’s and nuns also he was only the trigger man in 1 of them murders

[@MrGarymuldoon]

Except the innocent child he killed and blames on malito because he couldn’t defend himself being dead yet Sammy changes the story now from his sworn testimony lol

[@terrywilson588]

He pulled the trigger more than once

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

Planning them is much worse than pulling the trigger in them, so not sure what point you were trying to make there? 🤨

[@jtiger1062]

Brilliant ..thank you for putting this together….the reporter John Miller was very good…the defense attorney is full of it not objective bone in his body…

[@bobberguy1]

Defense attorneys are not paid to be objective. High priced snake oil salesmen.

[@kathleengleason9805]

Mr Miller was fearless confronting these thugs great voice too

[@jillliachris]

@@kathleengleason9805 fearless 😂😂😂. He had a camera crew with him , in public

[@terrywilson588]

Which defense attorney?

[@chriswilgus4752]

Sammy was trying to save his life. He was gonna get hit in jail and that's why he folded. Same with Dominic and anyone who took the deal . Live or die .

[@dsd7004]

Gravanos adopted son ???? Never heard of that. Or are they talking of d' angelo? Who , ironically, ended up ratting as well.

[@williammccomb6015]

ah poor wee lawyers gutted their big fish went down and won't be feeding their pockets anymore

[@carlgustafemilmannerheim5661]

He is going to get 5 years. He did. He is going to be living in Albuquerque. Close.

[@BobbyIsmaiel2424]

Every victim Sammy killed were part of that life. They had it coming

[@jillliachris]

Accurate to DaBull. 😂😂😂

[@jillliachris]

Oh wait sorry. DaBull was responsible for an innocent 16 bystander being shotgunned to death. He wasn’t part of the life.

[@terrywilson588]

Not every single one, gtfoh

[@sox-on-a-duck693]

@@jillliachris Yes, an innocent paper boy by the name of Alan Kaiser.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

In other words, most weren't innocent victims.

[@calvinbriggs1840]

Pointing finger thumbing at prosecutors

[@prestonrein5500]

Calling Gravano, “Sammy Bull” does not sounds right.

[@calvinbriggs1840]

Philly Leonetti , Gas Pipe 😊

[@williamfeilhauer]

You are right leiah, he put a lot of thugs away

[@marekkotarba7574]

Miller was wrong on this one-actually it was a retalliation for Castellano's murder, wasnt Gigante and Amuso put a hit on Gotti? Frank Decicco was killed instead in a bomb explosion.

[@rowds]

this guy is awful lol ''Dapper DAN''?? rofl 10:50

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

Classic 😂

[@meddem1744]

This host is a amateur. Interrupting and 0 knowledge on the subject.

[@clydecessna737]

If giving Gravano a pass would destroy one of the 5 families it was worth it.

[@dennissettlemyre917]

It didn't though. They're all still out there. They're just online now and deep under versus in the streets, "showing the flag", as was a once common saying.

[@brianbelton3605]

Nice BELCH at 18:50 !

[@ghytgb]

The Chubby Don

[@jillliachris]

Is Gotti the guy who cooperated after only 11 months in jail and then relocated to another state and started dealing drugs with his family???? What a Scumbag

[@levrai944]

Can you please provide captions

[@moali4103]

Lisen to 11.00 sammy

[@TONIOFSFV]

Without Charlie Rose this would be a good show

[@RobynRay422]

I miss Charlie Rose and his show

[@richardbeach2430]

My crew was offered $250K to hit Castellano but we turned it down

[@meddem1744]

Come again?

[@calvinbriggs1840]

Yeah right

[@dennissettlemyre917]

If that were true you would've never spoke of it

[@tshady32]

John destroyed the mob.

[@johntate5050]

I like hairy women, especially hairy pensioners.

[@dennissettlemyre917]

RICO did. The entire leadership went down in the 80's and the rest of the notable ones went down in the 90's. Nowadays, they still make a ton of cash, they're just online and have pursued much quieter avenues for money making. Plus, I remember hearing that at least with the majority of them, there's a moratorium on killing.