Mobvoi TicWatch Pro 5! The Most Powerful WearOS Watch, But What About Updates?

TEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy Ticwatch Pro 5 review! Fantastic hardware. Great battery life. Great health tracking features. The newest Qualcomm SOC. We of course need to chat about that software though. WearOS 3.5 is here, but will this watch get updates?
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0:00 Hello TicWatch
0:19 Hardware Tour
2:36 Tech, Battery, Screen
6:16 Wear OS App Updates
8:21 TicWatch Apps
11:30 Wear OS 3 Performance
14:35 Google's Watch Strategy
17:17 Will there be competition?
19:54 Hardware vs Software

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

The 4K version of this video is on Patreon! www.patreon.com/posts/mobvoi-ticwatch-83483596

This video was beyond informative for me. I had no idea Mobvoi and Fossil were running into this wall, and you completely change my outlook. I do like the Pixel Watch features, but not the design or price, and leaving it to Google of all companies to work on diferent SKU's and design will take years, they'll get bored and cancel their projects, just like they always do. I have a Huawei watch and honestly if could do payments and have better notification management, I would keep it forever. The battery easily lasts a whole week.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Tell me about it. I REALLY miss having broader distribution on the H'watches. I still have both Huawei wear watches still.

[@DylanHunter64]

Man, 3 day battery sounds nice. I'm still using the Huawei Watch 2015, still going strong.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

NICE! The H'watches were RAD. I still have both the Android Wear models, but I don't think they hold a charge anymore. Their follow up watch (non-wear OS) still runs for DAYS.

[@DylanHunter64]

@GH0STST4RSCR34MWell duh. I miss the battery life on my old Pebble. Those things lasted forever. Wish they were still around.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@GH0STST4RSCR34M yeah but you give up access to the play store on any watch that gets you two weeks of battery life. Don't get me wrong, that's probably a worthy trade-off for most people but just understand why people sometimes want a more complete operating system with access to the Play store... That's basically the trade-off. You can use Amazfit or Fitbit or something like that and not worry about charging it for weeks. But there's not much tinkering available on those operating systems. Frankly I think the ticwatch it's a nice middle ground because it's the only wear OS watch that you can reliably where all day and all night several days in a row without charging. That said, the way Google is nerfing the voice assistant on Qualcomm chipsets means I'll probably will switch to a fitness tracker next time I need a watch. If there's no wear OS option that has both the dual screen technology and dedicated Google Assistant button, then there's a really nothing compelling to keep me on the platform.

[@DylanHunter64]

@GH0STST4RSCR34M A lot of those watches either have meh functionality or way too expensive. Or are just not my personal style. Obviously long battery life is awesome but I get by pretty fine on a day to day in a half. 3 days is honestly pretty fine because I'm charging things basically every night anyways.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@GH0STST4RSCR34M I definitely depend on voice recorder apps that come from the Play store. Definitely depend on Google keep. The ability to side load is a nice benefit. Again for a tinkerer, there's a big benefit I think to running a version of Android over a proprietary fitness tracker OS. But again I'm not ideological about this, I might very well switch to a fitness tracker at some point. Largely due to battery. Just like on an Android TV I benefit from being able to tinker with side loading and stuff, there are benefits to having a quasi-open source platform that allows side loading.

[@HalXV]

As usual you keep your reviews very objective , never miss your opinions in TEC thanks Juan !

[@csalinardi]

Great review! Good explanation of the software side and the changes Google is making. I'm really surprised to hear that there's no voice assistant on the ticwatch pro 5 though. I was hoping that feature was included even though it isn't something I use heavily.

[@2011Kestrel]

Nice vid. I hope you’ll do a long term review of the TicWatch 5 in the future. I’m currently looking at getting either the TicWatch 5 or the older (and far less expensive) TicWatch 3 Ultra to replace the my TicWatch 3 Pro GPS I lost near the end of summer 2022. Tough choice.

[@terrym540]

I have had a TicWatch Pro 3 GPS for a couple of years, and been very happy with it. Today, Amazon UK delivered my TicWatch Pro 5. Downloading the Mobvoi Health App, and pairing the watch with my Sony Pro-i was fast, and flawless. Looking forward to testing the capabilities of the watch.

[@Fromatic]

Have an update for us on how it has been for you?

[@terrym540]

@@Fromatic I returned it during the return period as the Pro 3 continued to meet my needs. Even more so with the subsequently issued OS update.

[@Fromatic]

@@terrym540 cheers

[@mopiq]

Thank you for the video. How about the hiking and turn-by-turn navigation using something like Outdooractive app? Id like to see the hiking map with my position on it and possibly some navigation arrow to destination. I am new to fitness watches so sorry if this is a lame question :) CHeers!

[@Karllooo]

Just bought this watch ! Can't wait for it to come! My last smart watch was the fossil gen 5 and that was so bad in battery life barely lasted a day, after a while i got fed up and just left it in storage! This looks like the update I've been waiting for! Hopefully it's going to be great!🤞😁

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I've been wearing it almost exclusively since this video. Still a few clumsy software bits for how poorly Google has helped partners, but it's my favorite Wear watch currently.

[@Karllooo]

@@SomeGadgetGuy That's great to hear! But yes it's sad how Google is pushing the engender to get the best experience you'll need a pixel or Samsung watch to do so! Hopefully they help out other companies like fossil or Mobvoi considering they've been there since day 1 👍. But I mean from what I've seen on the videos about the ticwatch 5 pro. It's all great apart from Google assistant which isn't really a deal breaker for me and a few nibbles. But thanks for taking the time to read and comment 😀. I watch your videos all the time ! Especially the camera and phone reviews!

[@carlosjs08]

I'm glad your putting some of the blame where it needs to be. I used to have a ticwatch pro 3 and miss it. This 5 is giving me the right vibes. Wondering size wise, how it compares to a Watch 5 pro?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I think we should all be frustrated with how Mobvoi has handled the conversation on this, but it's not ALL their fault that this is playing out so rough.

[@eyb0ss]

The battery life on Ticwatch 3 Pro is what is keeping me going. Software wise at least they have been open about the problems with Wear OS 3, it was kind of expected.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's strange watching all the tech "enthusiasts" so upset at mobvoi, but like, the experience on WearOS 2 is more compete at present than WearOS 3.

[@Dobaspl]

@@SomeGadgetGuy We are upset because of the fraud. We don't have the opportunity to get upset about the quality.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

@Adam Dobucki That's a bit hyperbolic. I'm mad that Mobvoi didn't lead the discussion better, but they didn't commit fraud. They looked at the issues fossil was facing, the lack of support from Google, and opted to keep the watch in a more functional state than turning their users into beta testers. Don't be dramatic.

[@Dobaspl]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Fraud is a strong word, but I still consider them liars. Their laconic messages only wind up the spiral of hatred. This company has lost all credibility for me.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@@SomeGadgetGuy Yes this is exactly how I feel. Fact if they offered me an upgrade to wear 3.0 I would actively avoid it because the voice assistant functionality is more important to me than...what? I struggle to even see the obvious benefits of getting wear 3.0

[@NoMoreLiesOrDeception]

Really good video on something that I don't really usually think about buying but you've given plenty to think about. Regards to your comments about only having hardware matching with others from the same company, i feel that this is a total fail of a business plan, If you have a great set of earbuds for example but they only work with a specific brand of phone haven't you just alienated yourself from all of those potential sales from outside of that brand (on top of the sales from those who have brand bias) but what do I know I'm just a (slightly older) average user.

[@rtw68]

Great video. I am considering a Tic Watch Pro 5 instead of a Galaxy Pro 5 or 6 Classic.

[@iamMcLovinLuigi]

Keep up the good work!

[@jsiniciativadigital1510]

New subscriber, really good info...

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

😎👍

[@WaltervonKurzgesagt]

Fell for the hype and got a Pro Ultra GPS. Looks great but no Wear OS3 because of HW comp issues. Although it was advertised that OS3 is coming...a year ago. Got some major compatibility issues with Google assistant as well. In its defense, it has good battery life.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I wonder who broke assistant compatibility...

[@WaltervonKurzgesagt]

@@SomeGadgetGuy sinister stuff

[@gregoryaul2005]

I'm using gw4 on wear os 4.5 nowi got my ecg and boold pressure working through geminiman wear os manager side loaded his modded Samsung monitor app👍👊

[@2011Kestrel]

The TicWatch 5 is currently selling for $470 CDN, and the TicWatch 3 is currently on sale for $325 CDN (regular price is $400 - but that “sale” has been going on for months). Now that you’ve used both, do you think the new TicWatch 5 is worth the step up in price?

[@AndyFerdean]

This watch is truly wonderful.

[@azkikrx1]

I've had both the TIcWatch 3 Ultra GPS and a Garmin Instinct Solar for the last 2 years. If there is no smart assistant anymore, which I barely used anyway, and you don't really use the voice calling function much, then it's the Garmin Instinct Solar series I'd pick every time. The newer Garmin Instinct series has the ability to produce unlimited battery power with sufficient sunlight exposure daily. I've been a smartwatch geek since my LG G Watch R, circa 2015, and the longer I analyze my use cases the more I realize that unless you are really serious about sports tracking then all you need is notifications. If you really are a fitness fanatic then you would probably better served by a Garmin Fenix or something by Coros or Suunto. As a Smart Home geek also, I'd be tempted back to Wear OS if the was better integration for tiles or widgets for smart home actions or routines, including those for Alexa. I know there are workarounds, because I have implemented them, but they are clunky.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Those garmin's are hard core. Again, I'm looking for ANY watch to add speech to text replies, and I'll likely retire wearos.

[@xx-qs1ij]

Nice video man. Can u have more details how voice messages are sent to Telegram app?

[@Sahko-_320]

Hello, how can I solve the problem with the Mobvoi TicWatch pro 5 disconnecting from the Mobvoi Health application? Without discounting the factory settings of the clock.

[@youtubeuser1105]

Does the Tickwatch Pro 5 have fatigue assessment like the Tickwatch pro 3? Do we know yet how accurate the Tickwatch Pro 5 health tracking sensors are compared to other major brands? (Hoping it's better than Samsung, which is abysmal!).

[@davidwhite5721]

I'd like to know if you can put apps on this phones like twitter etc ???

[@eriktherandomstuff3368]

4:11 tighten your watch with the power of a thousand suns. I'm sorry, it look so tight at the bottom there.😂

[@jonmarsella2417]

Does this watch track laps during walks and runs. I know pixel watch doesn't but amazfit does. Please let me know because I will get it if it does laps on runs. I mean hit a button and it marks the lap

[@kk-pz8gn]

digitaltrends review had this problem sometimes "During some workouts, the tracking seems to crash, with heart rate and calorie burn freezing up. "

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Oh wow. Nothing like that on my hikes or bike rides. I had issues with battery life if I hit the GPS too hard, but it wasn't consistent enough for me to track. Mobvoi says their day one update should fix those issues with Qualcomm's hardware.

[@hoihoi9866]

compas ...handy on the southpool

[@jeffbearce4830]

I have a fitbit sense 5 to 6 days battery life , and takes 45 minute to charge. Other watch has same feature but no battery life.

[@poligonzo5300]

The galaxy watch 6 is coming I'll wait for that one because of the deals

[@kevinpitts3548]

Interesting 🤔🤔🤔 I have a Garmin. Mainly for the battery life and notifications, but here lately every time I leave the Bluetooth range I have to pair it back. I don't know if that is a new security feature or something Garmin hasn't fixed. But it's getting old. Does this watch do that? I have been thinking about upgrading to an android os watch but haven't pulled the trigger.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

No. It cycles to wifi pretty well, and connects back.

[@chr1s2k9]

In the review you mention that WearOS 3 is not very different than WearOS 2. Do you think that makes getting the latest WearOS later less of an issue? Mobvoi said that their unique architecture delayed WearOS 3 on the previous TicWatch and I am hearing that the TicWatch Pro 5 does not have the same development challenges. Also not having a digital assistant on a watch might be considered a plus for some.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It depends on Google really. A feature like Wallet for example. Google could say "you need to be current on this build of android for security", but then only help Samsung update to that tier. I'm WAY less concerned about specific uses like that, and genuinely, I've been solid on the older ticwatches. Each person will have to judge their own comfort level though.

[@lamprozbroz3133]

Hey Juan. I know the hybrid smartwatches are not your cup of tea, but what do you think of Withings Scanwatch? It could be good enough for your wife? Around 2 weeks of battery, with a smaller screen for notifications, no way of replying on the watch honestly, and normal clock hands.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

That might be her jam. I don't think she uses replies on her watch at all.

[@pitres71]

I already have a Huawei Gt2, it's battery lasts near two weeks easily and have some nice features as healht traking, barometer, altimeter, compass. I'm considering to get this TICWATCH PRO 5, my question is, will I get new features that worth the upgrade and the expense?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's the difference between a more RTOS style watch and running a full build of Android. There are more app things you can do on Wear, and you have better support for speech to text and rich notification support. If you don't need those things, get the better battery life.

[@MartinTee1980]

Got it. Nice and powerful. But... GPS lock take ages... Like 2 mins average. And another deal breaker for me: lot of notifications arrive to watch but watch doesnt vibrate. Thas really annoying. Have to return it back...

[@iclubsealz]

I used to like my Ticwatch 2020. Then notifications started showing up late. VERY late, like three hours later. Went back to an Amazfit Bip with three weeks of battery life, never looked back on Wear OS. Hoping this one is free of issues for y'all!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

That was another era of Google putting out software that "supported" older SOCs, but kinda really didn't. Fossil and Mobvoi keep getting batted between the OS and SOC manufacturers. If this is how they're going to be supported moving forward, I kinda hope they leave Wear OS. The Mobvoi GTH is pretty good, and I'm REALLY interested in the new Fossil hybrid...

[@iclubsealz]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Oh wow, I had no idea the Moboi GTH existed! That looks pretty dope! That might actually be a worthy upgrade... 🤔 You're a gem, Juan!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Your amazfit is gonna be baller for a WHILE, but when you DO look at new watch, there are some FUN options out there outside the Google/Apple space. I still rock my T-Rex gen1 on the regular.

[@RandoTechInfo]

Loved my TicWatch Pro 3 and Pro 3 Ultra. Sadly the no Google Assistant is going to be a deal breaker for many, regardless of who is at fault.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Which is exactly what Google and Samsung will hope people decide. "Doesn't matter who's at fault, I'll give my money to the people who created the problem at the expense of the company that didn't create the problem."

[@RandoTechInfo]

@@SomeGadgetGuy A sad state of affairs for sure.

[@RandoTechInfo]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I've actually been reviewing the Pro 5 for the past couple of days and it can actually use Alexa which is definitely better than nothing.

[@blainegoodwin6365]

​@@RandoTechInfo You can side load assistant go onto the watch so you have it

[@ShawnHoyte]

I just got my watch, but I would like to know if Mobvoi is really as bad as they say with customer service? If yes, I'm returning mine after a week.

[@user-gm8ll5hs4x]

Did you Return?

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Mobvoi remains suspect on future updates and customer support so I ordered the Galaxy 6 Classic and I won't have to worry about it. The watch itself seems great, just not the company behind it.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's a sad place for wearos. I think fossil and mobvoi are doing the best they can, but Google is actively picking Samsung as the "winner" at the expense of their other partners. Google is making this look like a mobvoi problem, but really they aren't supporting mobvoi, fossil, or citizen.

[@ronniekenny3443]

Will this work with iphone? I have a Ticwatch 3 and the battery barely makes it a day, so I would like to upgrade to the 5 if it works with iPhone and have heard conflicting reports.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Unfortunately no. It seems moving forward (from google) wear os will not be cross compatible.

[@ChristopherMarts]

As I was recently in the market for a smartwatch to replace a Garmin Venu 2, I really considered the Ticwatch Pro 3/Ultra. With the long update delay to Wear OS 3, I had to pass. I knew the Pro 5 was launching soon, but I like software updates. I ended up with a slightly used Galaxy Watch 5 even though I own a Pixel 7. The Android "ecosystem" has been cut up like highways through the wetlands. I don't care about the couple Samsung exclusive features, but I still don't appreciate Samsung locking them down either. I would have bought a Pixel Watch in a heartbeat if it could last a couple days. Fitbit may be outshipping Google, but their latest watches are heavily crippled (likely to enhance the Pixel Watch). I don't really fault anyone for buying into Apple. It all works together really well. Google is kinda sorta wishy washy trying it with things like Health Connect, but its ultimately frustrating for the end user who just wants all the 'Droid stuff to work together. P.S. For the love of endurance, give us better battery life. Mr. Bagnell, you're right. Screw those animations. Make it faster, make it sip, make it last.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

I just can't handle the weak battery life and exynos chip.... Ironically, I now the view not having wear 3.0 as an advantage. You can buy the older tick watch Pro 3 for $150 and you get a native dedicated Google Assistant button. I'm honestly at the point where if my ticwatch pro 3 broke tomorrow I would probably replace it with another ticwatch pro 3... I could probably find one on the resale market for a 100 bucks. Save $250, the 4100 chipset is still way more powerful than the Pixel watch or the Galaxy watch chips. Yes it's on dead software.... But to me that's still preferable to not having dedicated assistant functionality and having to charge every night. But realistically that would only be an option near the short term which means sadly I'll probably end up switch Amazfit or something in time. If they're going to Nerf the platform so the only watch with wear os that can reliably last three or four days without a charge can't even have a dedicated assistant button, I might as well just switch to a fitness tracker that can get me two weeks of battery life.

[@ChristopherMarts]

Price wise, I grabbed my GW5 44mm for $140. Warranty is valid through 3/24 so I can safely assume its barely used. A GW5 Pro was around $180 and quite tempting for the battery life but not the overall size. Just too big for my wrists. Either way, I didn't have a problem with the price. This is kind of a trial run for me. The last Wear OS device I owned was the Ticwatch E. I was curious how Wear OS is doing now and if I'm missing anything. Unlike Garmin, its nice having the ability to fully respond to messages. Otherwise, I don't feel that I've gained much. The TW Pro 3 probably would have been fine for my purposes. Hopefully, Wear OS 4 can convince me otherwise. Maybe more useful apps will come out. I have only been using this for a couple days so I'm judging pretty quickly here. I really want to like Amazfit. They do everything right with battery life and Zepp OS just looks slick. After watching the Quantified Scientist, I'm pretty concerned about their health/fitness tracking. HRT on Amazfit is basically the worst out of all the watches/fitness trackers he tests. Ticwatch was middle of the pack (I believe). I'm not a serious athlete, but I am health conscious so I would prefer if those aspects are accurate. I did reprogram one button with a long press for Google Assistant on the GW5. I'm annoyed that I couldn't replace the button for Samsung Pay with Google Pay though.

[@michaeldendulk2230]

​​@@ChristopherMarts don't know who to believe on the Amazfit tracking. Some reviewers say it's average, some say it's brilliant and some say it's bad. I don't need scientific level tracking, so I've switched to Amazfit from the Pixel Watch and boy, am I happy. No more dead battery, smooth OS, nice looking watches (for my taste at least) and manageable prices. Only naggles for me are that many watch faces cost extra and some of the features are a bit tricky to set up(hence I guess why many people just plain state they don't work). Hope they can streamline that a bit with this year's version of their higher end watches (which are rumoured to have magnetic charging and NFC on some models).

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Very frustrated with how Google is handling this generation of the software. I really want the combination of the dual screen technology and a native Google Assistant button. And Google has seemingly deprived me of that by nerfing the Qualcomm chipsets of voice assistant functionality. I do not want to switch to Samsung or pixel watch and not have the dual screen. The old watch the ticwatch pro 3/ultra has a dedicated assistant button.... Honestly I'd rather keep using that on the dated version of wear OS. You can buy twp 3 for $150 brand new. 100 bucks on the resale market. Sad but if they're going to neglect Qualcomm watches Google might be turning me away from wear OS all together. I just switch to something cheaper with two week battery life like amazefit. I think you're absolutely right that Google and Samsung have been unsettling relationship as it comes to wear OS.... And it's a big disappointment because a lot of us were hoping that that partnership would improve the platform for everyone. The opposite seems to have happened

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

This also further makes me sad that LG isn't making their neck band anymore with a dedicated assistant button. That would at least help fill the gap that the watches are missing out on. Pretty frustrated with these regressions on wearable technology and assistant functionality....

[@klokwillems7222]

I have problem with the firmware update.

[@mistamaog]

I think i may take the risk and get this. My Galaxy watch 4 just cracked, and battery life is kind of bad. I've heard you talk a lot about that dual display to extend battery on your podcasts too.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I'm still wearing mobvoi more than anything else. It has it's quirks too, but it's my current fave hardware.

[@mistamaog]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Nice! Nothing's perfect, everything has their quirks, like my current car, but I wouldn't trade it in for anything. Also funny enough, I just ordered the watch last night, only to see that they have a sale now today haha. I sent them an email hoping they can discount me the difference.

[@kramdens1967]

Why do I keep hearing that the haptics are good? I just got this watch today and I feel like it's the worst haptics I've ever experienced on a smartwatch. I can barely feel them at all

[@mohammedsalmaancharolia3335]

Is there an option to use compass in essential mode? Please don't give me the answer without checking, because on the basis of that i am going to buy the watch Please also share the video of it if possible Thanks

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yup. Essential mode supports all the passive tracking and compass mode for the second screen.

[@JoeD250]

I'm pretty sure video like this lends on deaf ears at google. I did own a Moto 360 (gen 1) and now a TicWatch S2. I planning to replace my watch next year. And I like the idea of the TicWatch Pro series. But if Google keep limiting the competition like this then a Garmin watch might be next best bet that a Wear OS watch then.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Garmins are SOLID watches. I like those a lot too. Always worth looking at some of the other fitness options too. Like an Amazfit T-Rex.

[@nickthorley1]

I would love you to go for a swim in the sea and a clorinated pool and tell us how it stands up

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Sea is probably gonna be a fail, but I've taken it out to the pool. IIRC, the main issue with the Pro3 was higher pressure water. My 3 did fine with short stints swimming laps in a 9 foot pool. I'm not a great swimmer though, so probably not a good triathlon solution.

[@barryaaron]

Hi, Im newbie for smartwatch, my only concern is ticwatch pro5 able to listen to youtube music downloaded song without connecting to my smartphone? With bluetooth earphone.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I don't use YT Music, but in the app, there are settings for downloading directly to the watch.

[@barryaaron]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Thank you very much!

[@wrldonwill]

Why tf can't I say, "Hey Google, turn off the lights" with my watch?! This may be a deal breaker for me. Thanks for the review.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Ask Google. Seems they broke it for Fossil and Mobvoi.

[@helarpanibour8107]

I don't know if you'll see this, but the Pro 3 had a terrible vibration system. How is it on the Pro 5?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

MUCH better.

[@_DMD_]

How would you say the haptics are compared to other smartwatches?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

SO MUCH closer now. I think I like the "flutter" on Pixel Watch better, but this is night and day from the Pro3.

[@_DMD_]

@@SomeGadgetGuy thank you so much for your response.

[@gizmohungry9739]

Yeah its kinda funny that "Android" aka- samsung with google as sidekick- step by step is becoming conservative as apple. While apple starts to think(or atleast in prayers😅) for wider compatibility. While the microsoft idea is amazing imo. It would be a win win for both(especially for consumers). a huge opportunity for microsoft(streak of success?) and brands outside "AnDroiD" elite club.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I want that so bad. The hardware was MISERABLE, but the microsoft fitness band features we're really cool. Some of that software magic, and bing chat, on a wearable would be fun.

[@bob8409]

I miss my original pebble and pebble time. Battery life for weeks. Even a little over a month.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Ugh. Pebble still hurts my soul. CRAZY long battery and speech to text. I miss them so much. Ditto the Qualcom Toq. AWESOME watch.

[@bob8409]

@SomeGadgetGuy after watching your review these seems to be pretty darn close to what I have been looking for in a watch. I just wish companies would make a watch with way longer battery life than a day or two. Give us a week at the very least. But that is just me.

[@bob8409]

@SomeGadgetGuy and stop making reviews that make me want to buy products. It's not only hurting my wallet my wife is getting at me lol.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

LOL Sorry... I am kind of a tech enabler like that...

[@varunaeeriyaulla]

I have trust issues with Mavoi's software updates while using Ticwatch 3 Pro. Samsung reduced the Watch 5 pro price to the same $325 range.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

At this moment, Samsung MSRP for the watch is $399. There will always be sales and other deals, but Mobvoi is still largely competitive. And it's not like Mobvoi doesn't have sales over time too. Id still rather get the more powerful chip, the radical battery life of essential mode, and full functionality for any phone.

[@varunaeeriyaulla]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I ve a Ticwatch 3 pro. But, didnt receive promised software updates. It dosent matter when you have a supper SoC but dosent get software updates. That's sucks.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

And we should be frustrated about that. But why give money to Google+Samsung for making that more difficult for Fossil and Mobvoi?

[@delocabi3038]

Can you orient the watch so that the crown is on the left?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Ah that's a good question. I don't see an option for that...

[@japomi]

The customer service doesn't exist, no updates, ever. That's all we need to know 😅

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Yeah I actually am one of the few people that I'm happy ticwatch pro 3 appears to not be getting wear 3. Originally I very much wanted it but when I found out that anything with the 4100 chip would lose assistant functionality and access wear OS app ... It's not worth a headache for me. What's the benefit? Just a ridiculously stupid strategy from Google.... Basically forcing you to use the underpowered Samsung or Pixel watches with exynos chip and a battery life that probably needs to charge it every single night. What a bummer, we thought wear 3 might save the platform and it's actually turned me away from it.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Same. I still use it for a couple specific features, but I am no longer married to the platform like I was. If I could get speech to text anywhere else, I've probably leave.

[@lwini5171]

What about google assistent?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Is mentioned in this video.

[@RamakrishnaLVV]

The centered clickable crown was a deal breaker for me with the initial fossil smartwatches. Had to return one because of this exact reason. Wireless charging imo is starting to become a must have.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

From using ticwatches for a while, I'm not bothered by the magnetic charger. It's stayed the same since the 2020, so now I have a couple. I think the major difference, if I'm traveling, I'd be WAY more worried about charging a Fossil or a Pixel since they barely last a day. I've gone four days with a tic on a charge after minimizing workout tracking and using essential mode for down time. Since youre not always reaching for a charger, it's a little easier to plan ahead for when you might need to charge it.

[@RamakrishnaLVV]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Yep, the battery life definitely. I had a nice long run with the 1st gen TicWatch Pro which I used until late 2021! Then I moved to a Galaxy watch Active 2 and I was surprised by it's battery life. On regular mode with an always on display I still get 1.5 days, on Power saver mode - 3 days, and on essential mode about 4 weeks. Albeit Tizen OS, but has been working well with my Google Pixels ever since. I have moved exclusively to wireless charging for my phone, watch and earbuds. So while traveling I only have to carry around one Qi charging pad. :)

[@GregoryLopez1]

Does anyone know why Google's locking down Assistant by restricting access for non-Samsung third parties, including the now Google-owned Fitbit? Driving Pixel Watch and Samsung sales is the obvious answer, but it doesn't quite make sense to me. I moved from fitbit after my Versa 3 died and I found that the new gen nerfed by Google. I settled on a Garmin Venu 2 Plus over a Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 Pro due to better battery life, a general dislike for Samsung's ecosystem, and because I use fitness and health stuff way more than smart features.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

We'll never get a straight answer, but it LOOKS like Google picked Samsung to be "the winner". That way Samsung won't compete with Tizen, and they won't use Microsoft search on galaxy phones, and they can get into a cozy licensing agreement for components like cameras, screens, and SOCs. To get Samsung to switch from tizen to wear os, it seems the old wear os players had to be pushed aside.

[@claudiofernando527]

Muito melhor que samsung watch 6

[@PakoSt]

I still have my original LG G Watch running AsteroidOS. No, not that one! The other one! Ehh.... Wrong again, the square one! That original WearOS 1 implementation was far simpler and could've worked for ages. FOR AGES. But it barely lasted the meagre 2 year lifecycle before the underlying service from Google made it literally unusable. When someone talks about quality from big G they obviously haven't been exposed to that crash fest 😆 Which brings us to the TicWatch... The inner nerd in me is mad that the capable hardware is locked to the same broken, disposable software ecosystem with new shiny shell (well, being locked out of the new shiny really). Couldn't Mobvoi start chipping with FOSS implementation of at least some functionality? Bah, hope dies last ... So, the basic PineTime it is for me 🙂

[@Zetsumei88]

Love the hardware but being stiffed on the WearOS 3 update on the TW3 Pro Ultra I'm going to pass on Mobvoi products for now. They shouldn't have promised the WearOS 3 update and delay it. Their reasoning it's because of their proprietary dual system architecture which has nothing to do with Google. I don't agree with how Google is handling things, but it's Mobvoi's fault on this one.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

And yet, whenever a watch has a Samsung SOC it gets better support and has Assistant. And when it has a Qualcomm SOC, it gets poorer support and no assistant. Gee... I wonder if Mobvoi is just lazy and evil... Hmmm...

[@Zetsumei88]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I don't agree with how Google is handling things but Mobvoi shouldn't have promised something they couldn't deliver. Is it Google's fault for Mobvoi's lack of communication on the WearOS 3 update? Did Google make Mobvoi say they were going to give the TW3 Pro/Ultra WearOS 3 around summer of last year? Did Google make Mobvoi go radio silent when people were waiting patiently and asking for updates? Nothing prevented Mobvoi from communicating with their customer base about the difficulties they were facing with adapting WearOS 3 for their custom 4100 platform. They could have properly addressed the elephant in the room by giving their customers a proper explanation in a timely manner. Instead of saying, "Oh it's coming please be patient" Then a year later they give an actual reason while releasing their new flagship watch. Is Mobvoi the only company to have pulled stunts like this? Nope. But could they have handled matters differently to stand out from the rest of the pack? Absolutely. Hopefully they're more open with communication this time around if the same issue occurs with WearOS 4.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Sure. We're all frustrated about the communication. What's the root problem though? If Mobvoi is under developer NDAs, they probably had an idea of when they might have access, and after a point, how many times can they say "we're working on it". It's a complete unknown. We'll never get that inside info. We can still see the COMPLETELY different situations between Samsung hardware and Qualcomm hardware. I think there's a MORE important trend in support there other than "b-b-b-but Mobvoi PROMISED!"

[@Zetsumei88]

@@SomeGadgetGuy The delay according to Mobvoi is they were having issues with their custom architecture for the 4100. I'm guessing it's possible they modified the coprocessor for the LCD since it's different than AOD. So it doesn't appear it's because Google cucked them this time around. While we way never know truly what happened. Seems in this circumstance the issue is in Mobvoi's court this time. Also radio silence is worse than "We're working on it".

[@MrSaeedted]

“Soap on a rope” 😂

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

😁

[@grtitann7425]

You know, i never considered your many good points and now i have "forgiven" Mobvoi and upset with Google. You just gained a subscriber.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I think it's TOTALLY fair to be frustrated with how Mobvoi handled communication with customers. That sucked. But the root issues seem to be out of their control.

[@grtitann7425]

@@SomeGadgetGuy if anything, i think it was very noble of Mobvoi of taking the blame instead of trashing Google or Qualcomm, since i bet you that one of those two is the real culprit of this mess.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Well that, and I would imagine companies like that are under CRAZY corporate NDAs...

[@grtitann7425]

@@SomeGadgetGuy that is also very possible!

[@Danny-BigD]

$349.. way to much for what you get vs Pro 3

[@Gabilleta]

I've always said this, Wear OS (Formerly known as Android Wear) is the worst OS for smartwatches. Samsung was right to go Tizen when they did. It always felt faster, and battery life was better compared to Wear OS smartwatches. And we see this with other smartwaches that ditch Wear OS. It's sad that Google has decided that each OEM will be responsible for the companion app as it creates confusion among consumers. Giving Samsung the edge when it comes to Wear OS updates furthers the notion that consumers have that "Android" smartwatches just aren't as good as an Apple Watch. Inadvertently, this also puts pressure on Samsung to deliver because they are seen as THE Android OEM even though they're not necessarily the best, and this is coming from someone who uses Samsung products. I think the hardware in this watch will probably go unmatched, especially at this price range. It's just sad that they have to settle for a compromised software strategy because of Google business practices.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I liked the original Android Wear, and stuck with it for those features like speech to text. Then I got the focals by north, and they updated those glasses for rich notifications and speech to text. Those were genuinely the fastest reply gadget I've ever used. It's SHOCKING that we can't catch those boutique glasses with a new watch. I've been soured on wearos since using the focals. This move to wear os 3 is souring me further.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Or flipping hell! Why cant we have better speech to text replies in bluetooth earbuds? LG had that on the Tones YEARS ago... Damn...

[@Gabilleta]

@JuanBagnell I will admit that the original Android Wear wasn't terrible. My OG Huawei watch is still perfectly functional in terms of software. Sad that it suffered from Oled burn in, and the battery doesn't last as long as it did. Otherwise, I would still keep it in rotation because of the beautiful hardware.

[@wl6279]

dang he got fat fingers lol 😆

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I prefer the term "hobbit hands" 😅

[@jackperkins93]

Ahhh mobvoi 🤦

[@xphyle]

NOPE. NO WAY. NEVER AGAIN. This company absolutely shit on everyone that bought one of their old TicWatches with ZERO updates to WEAR OS3. Only EXCUSES. Hard PASS from every old TicWatch owner!

[@Xanoxis]

I start to believe responses like this are done by bots. Have you even watched the video?

[@Jonny-yv3lf]

I agree with the original comment... And if anything goes wrong with the watch, don't expect them to honour their warranty either!

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Watch the video? I understand your frustration but it's kind of a Sophie's choice.... Google made it impossible The voice assistant or wear os app... So you can either update and then the Google Assistant button is worthless, and you nerf an important function that was in promotional materials for the watch... To me the benefits of wear 3 not outweigh the benefits of having the assistant button functioning properly.. I understand not everyone agrees, but it's Google's fault that assistant doesn't work on Qualcomm chipsets. People should be just as angry if not more at Google movboi.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

@@Xanoxis Yeah. I appreciate folks really looking to join a conversation in earnest, but the comments on this one were always going to be silly. No point trying to change that techie mind once it's been made up. In other news, where folks can handle a little nuance, I feel like I'll probably leave Wear OS as a platform if this is how Google continues "managing" their interactions with partners.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

@@michaelcorcoran8768 Yeah it's a rough situation right now. I actually really do want techies to be frustrated, but I'd hope more people would be aiming their frustrations where blame needs to be applied.

[@jeremyk2740]

Will never buy anopther garbage Tic Watch. My Pro 3 GPS never got any updates past Oct 2021. No Wear OS 3 update as promised despite having the most capable processor on the market. Strava no longer supported due to missing Wear OS 3 update. Google Assistant broken, can't make calls or send messages. The power button has now failed and I've gone back to Samsung. Mobvoi will happily take your money and abandon it's customers. Worst smart watch company out there. They flood KZbinrs with free product and paid endorsements to get you to buy their garbage product. My Galaxy Watch 5 works perfectly including Google Assistant and Strava.

[@texasspartan86]

I bought the Ticwatch Pro 3 Ultra which worked fine with my iPhone, however this Pro 5 does not work with iOS. Big miss. there Mobvoi.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Google did that. Again. Google broke stuff and is letting their smaller manufacturing partners take the blame. Pixel watch also does not work with iOS.