Mod Jack RS3 Lead Designer Drops BOMBS on me and has huge plans for the future of Runescape!

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Mod Jack is one of the most incredible developers/Designers we have on the team at Runescape and i love getting to have conversations like this. please leave me a comment on what you thought of the episode and the LORE BOMBS he drops on us!
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[@videocrowsnest5251]

I like the idea of the pests not per say being tied to anything eldrich, but more so being a hive of powerful, troublesome organisms that have taken advantage of the damage Guthix caused to begin their own infestation of the universe. Which had shaped and directed their evolution via constant exposure to the magical energies from the rifts to be more adept at it due to the pests lifecycle and existence being now tied to this sort of cosmic scale infestation. It also keeps to the trend of them being indeed pests, and not outright an invasion force working for anyone else. Also means that there would be room for studying the anatomy and organs of slain pests to cobble together some sort of grotesque biological and magical means of protection from using the rifts ourselves. Which would be handy if the world gate should ever be rendered inoperable, destroyed or damaged and the fairies have no rings to offer travel to with the player needing to get somewhere else in the cosmos. And with how I imagine the rifts the pests crawl through to be somewhat unstable and illogical in their raw, unrefined manner of working, it would be interesting to have to crawl around through pest riddled riftways using a magically cobbled pest fleshsuit for protection to hopefully stumble onto the right exit in a desperate scramble before being either overwhelmed or the suit rupturing.

[@Tuckanuckle]

I love these videos so much but I have a single gripe (and i know this would add alot of editing for you). When you are talking about images you reference - good example is when you are talking about you freecaming at ungael and find the teeth. Could you show these images as you talk about them? Or is this not the spirit of these pod casts and you just want us to see the raw conversation as if we are there etc without any prompts. Love the return to Mod Jack

[@prideslayer77]

so yeah TBH it IS alot of editing to add it because i usually do like a synopsis lore video - i actually did one on this topic for example but i totally get what you mean, most podcasts have a producer who watches like that can whip out the resources but yeah it would take atleast an extra week to post these. i would 100% do it but it really would make these take alot longer. i will maybe look into trying to have a silent producer with some material ready - it would help too bc they could timestamp. lemme see what i can do! i actually really appreciate the feedback and maybe we can come to a happy medium

[@Tuckanuckle]

@@prideslayer77 Its only when talking about specific finds where you are explaining in detail something you find interesting/find/discuss etc. Only a handful of those cases per podcast but yeah I understand its alot more work! Thanks for the reply, i do love all your lore videos too! Keep going man!

[@prideslayer77]

@@Tuckanuckle i think it is reasonable to ask for that! i'll work on adding some more visual context. really appreciate you Tuck!

[@mytralaalaa]

this pogcast was crazy, every one of these videos make me even more excited for runescape and the story that is unfolding.

[@TheRSGuy]

Hype

[@evergreenblossom]

Ok this was so interesting and detailed, but it's also very funny that he's the lead designer on every aspect of the game (and so could answer on gameplay subjects) and the entire podcast was about L O R E Surely this means a part 2 about skilling, right?

[@WingsofAbsurdity]

I hope the new continent isn't Zeah. Would like to see something more lore established already like Eastern Lands or Acheron. (okay fine, I just want Eastern lands :D ) A great listen like always! Thank you for this! You're also closing in on 3K subs, congratz :O

[@zeldapro18]

That would be insane to get the entirety of the Eastern Lands. I'd so be for it. We actually go to the Shield in the Once Upon a Time in Gielinor: Finale quest and Faraway Place where Things are Kept via a Worldbearer ring (1). Could learn of the other three colossi besides Seiryu. Acheron would be dupe too. Home of the penguins, mammoths, and other animals although I think the areas is way to cold to survive.

[@prideslayer77]

tyty! would be cool to hit! its wild how time flies and yeah i want eastern lands hands down but im happy with whaterver as long as its cool

[@WingsofAbsurdity]

@@prideslayer77 I have a conspiracy theory it's Eastern lands caused uncharted isles got skybox update.

[@zeldapro18]

@@prideslayer77 Was reading on Kami-shima and there was a barrier made by the Gu that acted like the Edicts and that's why they don't really know about the gods. Interesting as we know how they Edicts work.

[@originaldahha]

holy.... the fact sid myers pirates came up as his guilty pleasure of trying to complete... i remember that being my favourite game as a really young child, took me like 15 years to find it again/ learn what it was actually called (we just called it pirate game hahaha ). wasn't expecting that to come up here though

[@letsdiscussrs]

This is so awesome, not only was the discussion great but to see you both fully in your element was beautiful. Mod Jack is LEGIT, enjoyed this so much!

[@quinnwinterbrooke1293]

19:19 I'm not opposed to 2D cutscenes as a concept, my main issue with the ones used in the Elder God Wars arc is how you would often use past tense third person narration to describe events that we were supposed to be witnessing in real time, which is not at all consistent with RuneScape's writing style and took me out of the experience completely, and that was especially disappointing in a quest with as much build-up as Extinction. I think the Shadow Leviathan cutscene could have been much more impactful without narration and with more focus on the characters. Show us how Jas and the Leviathan are evenly matched, or better yet that Jas has the upper hand. Show the panic as the characters realise that the Leviathan won't be enough to defeat her. They turn towards the Needle in desperation, only to see it breaking apart into fragments, its power rapidly fading. Show us the horror and hopelessness they experience as they realise the one chance we had at defeating Jas has failed. Show us a close-up of Kerapac and the sheer hatred he feels for the monster who has tormented him and his kin for millennia, and the moment that hatred allows him to defy even the will of an Elder God. I have given pretty harsh, but I believe fair, criticism of the 2D cutscenes in the past, but I hope you don't take the negative reception to mean that you're better off permanently lowering the stakes to stuff that can conceivably be depicted in 3D. I absolutely love all the lore surrounding Xau-Tak and Erebus and it would be a pity if all that ended up just being background flavour text that you can never actually follow through on due to the scale of it all. I'll take immersion-breaking cutscenes over a large chunk of the potential narrative being considered off-limits, but I feel like you really listened to feedback and made significant improvements to the way you do 2D cutscenes. I would consider the Ancient Awakening cutscene on par with most 3D cutscenes, the one downside of course being that you can't show the player character.

[@scinceastro9980]

This is obviously just speculation on my part...but is it possible that Vos is actually Zaros? This might sound weird, as this means Zaros talked to his future self through the Monolith. But if time runs differently in Erebus (which, being an entirely different universe with its own laws of nature, is very much possible), then it could work. As you mentioned, Vos is called 'Vos-Da', which implies it is male, if you can even assign a gender to it. Also, Vos does sound similar to Zaros, maybe a name he gave himself after becoming an Elder God? Vos could sound like a self-stylized name that Zaros changed to after ascending (V looks similar to Z, and both end in 'os') If this is the case, that means the 'sixth Elder God' Zaros felt at Freneskae...was actually his future self. We also know from previous quests that, with time travelling involved, RuneScape follows the 'bootstrap paradox' law, i.e when the World Guardian talks to Guthix at the end of the God Wars, that always happened -- so when you are actually made the World Guardian at the start of the Sixth Age, Guthix had already spoken with you a few thousand years earlier (so he 'knew' he would be successful in giving us our powers). Zaros, as Vos, then has to ensure everything in the past works out exactly as it always has in the bootstrap paradox, ensuring that Zaros is defeated by Zamorak and makes the same choices so that he will end up becoming Vos down the line. If you've seen the Netflix series 'Dark', you'll understand what I mean. I also think that Zaros (during the Second Age) KNEW this, and was terrified of what his future held, so he took steps to avoid this by sending souls into Erebus in an attempt to pollute it (as implied by the 'Scions of Erebus' book). Ironically, this means Zaros, being the 'God of Fate', was desperate to avoid his future fate of becoming an Eldritch horror god in Erebus. But after Jas denied his ascension, he thought it was a better fate than to be annihilated in the 'Great Revision'. So, by then, he had accepted his own fate.

[@Kranon]

What an interview man! Listening to Mod Jack definitely makes me hopeful for the future, but to be honest all i really want is for the Mobile client to have a second wave of changes and updates, maybe some more customization options and a way to bind a game controller would be so, so cool. That way we could just use the screen for movement and the butttons for abilities and maybe even ability bar switching. Needs more thought ofc, but I'm hopeful of Mod Jack's lead :)

[@meue3387]

Have to say, I'm normally someone that space bars every Quest and I don't really pay attention to lore. But those last couple of quests (Requiem/Ode) I actually read all the text and really enjoyed the way it was delivered.

[@iirostark]

As a Lore nerd myself, I haven't even touched the new content on gates of whatever nor the new quest after the sanctum disaster, the inconsistent drop rates in HM, the shard rly being only good drop and t95 being so accessible and common in nm, the very buggy release and all that after the fsoa nerf that came after 2 years and so making their hard work perfecting the rotations and making their records null and void, many highend pvm friends quiting because of them and I can't really blame them as I have been so disopointed at recent directon of rs3. They are appealing too much to low-to mid end pvmers (reddit) at the cost of end game players.

[@prideslayer77]

So you won't engage lore content because you don't like a combat update?

[@iirostark]

​@@prideslayer77No, I ment Im too demotivated to engage with that content. Also, lorewise it's really dumb that a legendary weapon such as the staff of armadyl that has been in the game since 2002 is bassicly just EoF weapon now. Jagex needs to sort out their priorities. Why would I be invested in something just to be disapointed later. And people quiting because of this BS is really bad too, runescape is after all mmorpg, so the social aspect is important too.

[@prideslayer77]

@@iirostark i have only heard you say any of this - aside from the t95 dw being dropped from nm that i agree with and the two year old fsoa problem. i think it might be time to take a break and play something then, that is okay and i dont know anyone who quit because of sanctum, but i have talked to dozens of people who enjoyed it so i'll have to take your word people quit. Never adding more magic gear because you want to always use a fsoa isn't fair to those of us who do.

[@iirostark]

@@prideslayer77 I never said you can't add new magic gear, just to give a legendary weapon that has been in the lore for over 20 years a purpose aside for whiping it out for a spec once every minute.

[@prideslayer77]

@@iirostark and this particular weapon interaction devalues thousands of hours of other interactions in your view?

[@byever1]

Mod Jack is going to save run scape

[@Kranon]

And for once, I don't think he's lying to us.

[@mwithz]

Been waiting for this one!

[@wrytte]

pausing 15 minutes in to write this, instant sub. i saw your Brighter Shores video and thought it was good but moved on until this showed up today. had no idea you were a lorehound and also did podcasts WITH JMODS. i got some stuff to catch up on

[@prideslayer77]

@@wrytte so nice of you 💕 welcome to the family. Really happy to have you! I don't do a lot of opinion pieces on other projects but I'm happy the new game video brought you to the channel! Really appreciate the sub!

[@F0ALIE]

had me checking my phone all day, glad its out man!

[@AeoniZahQyr]

Everytime you ask they explain there is no VoS, Xau-Tak, Tell them how you want the story to end, they want to try to end the story. Rs3 is in permanent brain storming

[@javirodriguez4621]

Give me quest helper or give me death

[@DarthChosen]

yes lovecraft wiki still has the elder gods in the pictures

[@Duriel123]

Oef. Missed this:)

[@ThePauloa7x]

gimme revolution while walking or riot

[@samwazhere559]

Oh hell yeah.

[@johnbalkin8223]

Mod Jack is awesome

[@niccox56]

[@Jrakula10]

LFG

[@HIACliffRS]

=o