Micro Swiss Bowden Dual Gear Extruder Install (Ender 3 V2)

[@bartacus3521]

The stock extruder is one of the biggest issues on pretty much every Creality machine that comes with one. This looks like a sweet option. I went with the Micro Swiss direct drive kit on mine, could not be happier. These guys make GREAT quality gear!

[@davis4010]

I completely agree. Since I bought the Ender 3 V2, it suffered from considerable under-extrusion. Tried different kinds of hacks, including adjusting the extruder screw but with no results. However, yesterday I installed a cheap aliexpress dual gear aluminium extruder, and it now prints perfectly.

[@RennieAsh]

The stock extruder on the cr6se cracks and hangs up as a result. Sure you can just buy another $20 extruder but why if they keep cracking. It's mostly plastic, though they should update the design to be more robust imo

[@claysandi7409]

I just installed this part a couple days ago. 130 is a good place to start on the Estes adjustment. I did a calibration and found 140 is where I needed to be. Would recommend doing a calibration of e-steps after install.

[@Mr.Curtis.]

How did you calibrate it? My sharpie mark keeps getting hidden by the Bowden tube.

[@RennieAsh]

@@Mr.Curtis. maybe do it without the tube?

[@Pattot818]

Installed on an anycubic mega with your help, highly appreciated!

[@beebees3d]

I’m running micro Swiss direct drive with all metal hotends on both of my ender 3’s…….working great

[@lord_bermondsey]

Excellent video, a few minor variations for the CR6-LE, but got it sorted out. My printer is back to being "old reliable" again.

[@karipenttila2655]

Your video is bit misleading. You are pushing the Bowden to hotend, at the same time as you cut the extruder end of Bowden tube. Some might misunderstand that the end that goes in to hotend should be cut sharp, which is wrong. But hey great video again.

[@AllTheNamesWereInUse]

Exactly what I was going to say... lol why did you cut 90s in the tube you put in the hot end?

[@pegredman8786]

@@AllTheNamesWereInUse If you watch closely the cut end went in the extruder...not the hotend. You have to take the tube all the way out of both ends in order to cut it. The hotend always needs to be flush so you don't get heat creep.

[@pegredman8786]

If you watch closely the cut end went in the extruder...not the hotend. You have to take the tube all the way out of both ends in order to cut it. The hotend always needs to be flush so you don't get heat creep.

[@emtjc8465]

thank you sir. I love their direct drive set up but didn't want to do that on my elegoo neptune 2 setup. great video and very good format.

[@mlasher711]

Thank you this was very helpful on my install. Loading filament is a breeze now just turn the knob.

[@EdwinCombs]

I just installed this extruder. I like it.

[@AndrewAHayes]

I bought and fitted the MS all metal hotend and all was well for a couple of months and then the Bowden tube kept riding up out of the collet whch was worn and was causing bad layers so I bought a replacement and the same eventually happened to that one, so I got my friend to machine the hole with a thread and make a screw in conversion fitting so I could screw in a compression fitting, that was two tears ago and all is still well

[@RennieAsh]

9:16 I marked the orientation of the tubing so that my cut was aligned as the tube was naturally sitting before. Handle the tube carefully as the marker pen rubs off very easily; you don't want this to happen until after the cut is made

[@Graham_Wideman]

4:20 regarding the shaft flat. If the shaft on your motor has no flat, you can just file a flat into the shaft.

[@volksbugly]

I have a motor without the flat shaft. Can you please link the motor you mentioned to use? Thank you!

[@Ollierothner]

Please can you do a video on i go how to use Octoprint with the SKR mini e3 v2?

[@townsend9294]

running into issuses with this extruder slipping, installed this and the all metal hotend

[@tammyfields4420]

This is a great video! I am wondering though, I have the CR 6 Max. I was about to switch my extruder out. But the cabling looks a bit different. Is this one only compatible with the CR 6 SE? I thought the main deference between the two was just the build plate size.

[@jon9947]

Merry Christmas

[@ModBotArmy]

Merry Christmas to you too buddy!

[@TheSkyHive]

Your video is fantastic, but I am still failing to get mine to work properly. The video makes it look like you are supposed to bevel not just the end that goes into the extruder, but also the hotend.....is this correct or incorrect? I have just beveled the end that goes into the extruder. I have changed retraction distance and speed as Micro Swiss recommends. I am using it on an AnyCubic Vyper. I have been struggling with it for months. The red extruder knob is lightly popping, like the filament has too much pressure....maybe the nozzle isn't hot enough to push it through? I always use the exact temp recommended on each filament. I have even tried printing at 25% speed with PLA and the knob still jumps and extrusion is sparse and eventually stops flowing. I would GREATLY appreciate any help with this matter...OH YEAH PS-- On the Micro Swiss FAQ for Extruder Installation there is a ESTEPS GCODE file. The directions say: Download the MS_DD_ESTEPS.gcode and then print it on your printer as you would with any other GCode that you've sliced yourself. The GCode file sets the Esteps to 130 and saves the setting. I can download it, but when I send it to the printer nothing happens. I feel like such a BOZO.....please help me out HIVE MIND!

[@ThePirateGod]

Would be great if it fits with the runnout sensor

[@IowaMan]

i love how creality just can't figure out a good extruder just got this to replace the piece of trash that came with my cr 6 max

[@timothyrico4079]

I put one on my cr s10 pro v2 and changed the e-steps and everything But mixture keeps making clicking noise and I've tried adjusting the screw knob No matter what I do it keeps clicking

[@Jamesharris-gu2id]

I bought a metal dull drive extruder as an upgrade for my anycubic vyper but the motor gear doesn’t fit the stepping motor. The micro swiss has been recommended to me, but don’t I just need to replace the motor gear ? Can you please tell me what gear I should replace it with? Newbie to printing so any help appreciated thanks. The rest of the extruder fits okay.

[@gerursigurardottir4852]

Hi I have 6se and it is stringin what is the settings for cura with micro swiss extruder

[@sebastianshiffler470]

Anyone know of any files for creating a clip to keep hot end wiring out of the way of the print bed that would clip to this extruder in a non-obstructive way? I found a file for my old 1 gear all metal got end I had on my ender 3 v2, but that clip I printed doesn’t work for this.

[@kkuenzel56]

Wish I bought this instead of the ez struder

[@Mr.Curtis.]

How do you calibrate E-Steps with this installed? I marked a spot on my filament and the Bowden tube made my mark disappear ;(

[@enrilopez]

How would this work with printersmod direct drive conversion kit???

[@marksdroidx]

Whats your thoughts between this and a bmg?

[@Martin-sh2xg]

Dose the gcode esteps work for any extruder or this one only?

[@AndrewduToit]

I don't know if it's just me or what but ever since I loaded the firmware that is suppose to show you the thumbnail of the gcode. My machine is not the same. The screen looked almost the same as yours. But I downloaded the original file from Creality's website and reinstalled that. But now, every now and then the hot end carriage runs into the stopper and vibrates like it wants to go through the switch. Also the display not only shows the files in the root but also the directories I have on the SD Card for old gcodes. Also when the file name is very long it does funny stuff like starting in the completely wrong place. Can you help getting my Ender 3v2 back to its old self. I have the 422 bord.

[@jackshett]

I haven't seen anything from MicroSwiss about their "Next Generation Direct Drive Extruder" since late September. Have you heard or seen anything about that yet?

[@ModBotArmy]

Eagerly waiting 😬. I don’t know much either since the initial announcement last year.

[@jackshett]

@@ModBotArmy I'm definitely hesitant on that new design. I've only seen the one picture sofar. Hopefully you can get a preproduction or early sample and make a video on that near release.

[@Benji-mx5nz]

is the gcode part mandatory to run the printer?

[@sLoTH52287]

My stepper motor on my Ender 3 pro did not have a flat end. Could you recommend one for me?

[@RennieAsh]

You could file a flat end into it if you don't mind a bit of work (shield the motor from shavings).

[@SquishySpud]

Shit, I just installed a creality runout sensor that aligns perfectly with the old extruder. Anyone know a work around to get this to fit?

[@BenjaminPoindexter]

Did you ever figure this out? I have a Creality Cr 10 Smart and Cr 6 Se I’m trying to install this to that came with the runout sensor

[@SquishySpud]

@@BenjaminPoindexter I ended up moving my spool holder, and printing an adapter to install the runout sensor to it.

[@RennieAsh]

@@BenjaminPoindexter I think there's an adapter on thingiverse for the cr6se. Probably be the first thing I print

[@nashme11]

If the brass compression sleeve gets tightened on the tubing can you use it again? Where do you get a new brass sleeve if needed?

[@emersonsims9503]

I assume that it compresses and is only one time use. Not sure where you could buy more though...

[@BigDeezol]

@@emersonsims9503 if you're careful you can cut the tube from it and open the nut with a pair of tweezers....i've done it in the past when in a jam and never had any issues......only place i've been able to find the correct size compression nuts are directly from micro-swiss themselves

[@RennieAsh]

My kit came with a second compression sleeve as a spare

[@rleon1914]

your local hardware store should have them.

[@CelicaAutocrosser]

Sadly that is way to expensive for something that costs $14 and isn’t brand name on Amazon.

[@dmanero]

are there any advantages with this model compared to say a dual gear extruder that you buy from say amazon for a fraction of the price?

[@SirTonyChaos]

I can answer this! I bought a cheap $10 dual gear on Amazon for my CR6 SE and no matter how I tensioned the spring it just shredded my filament. Upon further review it was clear as day that the filament hole wasn’t aligned properly and it was causing the filament to twist against the gears and just shred to bits. American made accuracy doesn’t have this problem at all. It’s also, overall, a better install process for the MS extruder top.

[@RennieAsh]

@@SirTonyChaos just accuracy in general. Doesn't need to be American :) The mass produced ones don't bother more than a certain amount

[@JimmyJames420]

Brah! Did you cut the bowden on the hot end side? 😵‍💫

[@cobaltss0720]

Their direct drive is a better bang for the buck than this.

[@MrHristoB]

Nice one, but... to buy an ender 3 and spend a fortune upgrading it doesn't make much sense to me.. Better off, save the cash and buy a decent CoreXY printer and that's it. Fitting almost 50 quid of extruder on 200 quid printer is just mad..

[@ModBotArmy]

Different stokes. There are many that enjoy nodding and upgrading as much as buying a turnkey solution. Part of it is the choice of what upgrades they want to do to make their printer unique to them and their needs. I see both sides. I have purchased 200 dollar printers and spent the same amount on upgrades but when they are done I find them as reliable if not more than some of the pricier options. 3D printing is just not a one shoe fits all technology.

[@MrHristoB]

@@ModBotArmy I'm definitely one of those ;-D I've built two of my printers and have to admit, bought a chinese 4020/2020 extrusion printer as well... Tinkering all the time with different components, combinations, firmware tweaks, you name it. That's the part of the hobby, isn't it. But sometimes if you're not careful, these things can turn into a money pit. Anyway, thumbs Up for your channel!!

[@marijuanas]

Yeah but you have to start somewhere. I've started with an Ender 3, and while I have spent far too much money on it , it's all been a great learning experience. I really doubt someone starting with a core xy kit is a recommended path!

[@Graham_Wideman]

The problem is -- where is that "decent CoreXY printer" that itself doesn't require either building a kit, or swapping out the "budget" parts?

[@MrHristoB]

@@marijuanas I started with an old i3 Mk2 clone I got from a friend, that needed some touches here and there, and in the process printed the parts and built two more customised i3's. Rather than printing cubes and benchies wasting filament, i was printing spare parts. 'Cmon lads, if you want to know how something works, especially in the hobby land, you need a kit. And with the help of channels like this one, you'll get printing in no time. As far as the coreXY kits go, a "Flying Bear 5" is a really reasonable offer, a little bit above the Ender3 price mark. We live in the absurd times where everyone seeks instant gratification, but really, you need to put some effort into learning how things work.

[@corlissmedia2.0]

You glossed over the whole e-steps process of making it possible to use the Swiss Micro Extruder. Not helpful, at all.