Modding cheap LGA 771 Xeon Processors for Socket 775 Motherboard

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[@Mayban36]

Everyone talking about the new intel CPUs. And here Phil giving us a video about modding old 771 xeons to work on 775 platform Great content.

[@philscomputerlab]

Haha, like I say, I'm always late to the party :D

[@raashidrazi5663]

@@philscomputerlab haha, but I'm still gonna buy an lga775/771 CPU and Mobo, I'm so broke :'-|

[@blakecasimir]

Fashionably late, in this case. Great video, Phil. I doubt I'll ever do this modding myself but it was fascinating seeing an up-close look at the process. Some camera focus issues though... :P

[@IanC14]

Everyone's talking about Intels dirty tricks with the benchmarks more like.

[@haydenw8691]

Good luck finding a cheap X58 board. Even the cheapest ones (not counting chinese ones) cost more used than my B350 AM4 board cost new. CPUs to suit on the other hand can be found cheap.

[@BigJoshGaming]

I've done this mod many times and have several rigs running still. I completely recommend just cutting the plastic pieces off the motherboard socket. So much easier. Just take an exacto blade and push straight down takes 2 seconds and you don't have to worry about accidentally screwing up the processor. Regardless though this is a great mod and great computer when matched with a decent video card.

[@jafinch78]

Any workarounds you know of to get to work on the Q45 boards? I'm reading into for my HP Compaq 8000 Elite Small Form Factor AU247AV mobo.

[@damielreyes]

@@jafinch78 same, want to know some too

[@jafinch78]

@@damielreyes Yeah, I've not read into again and am on free WiFi for this month. Google search helped find a list somewhere on known motherboards that does work and does not.

[@damielreyes]

@@jafinch78 the mod doesn't work on Q45 chipset tho

[@jafinch78]

@@damielreyes Doesn't looks like anyone has made or found a work around... though I read somewhere might be feasible somehow with some firmware coding if I recall correct.

[@Kaelidoz]

My favorite mod ever. Still got one computer running an e5450 at 3.3GHz with 8GB of ddr3 on a Asrock 4Core1600Twins-P35!! 10 years old hardware.

[@Ginto_O]

my favourite was BSEL mod

[@elevate32767]

i am also a decade-old-hardware aficionado !!!

[@UsedTechHustle]

Frankly im glad your making videos on stuff like this right now - makes the perfect palate cleanser when most other tech channels are shoving unobtainable CPU's and graphics cards down our throats! I appreciate what you do anyway pal :) Very much!

[@Tankyard]

Like Linus Tech Tips for example

[@BoomBox02]

Too right. Over the last few days, i have been bombarded with KZbin notifications about the damn i9 9900K and i have not clicked on any of them.

[@3ExtraLives]

While I agree that this is refreshing content, what channels are you watching that are "shoving unobtainable cpus and gpus down your throat" linus tech tips has said NOT to buy the i9 or rtx2080, Jayz 2 cents said do NOT buy the i9, pauls hardware said do NOT buy i9, gamers nexus said do NOT buy i9, bitwit said do NOT buy i9... So where are you getting this from? Everyome is pretty much in agreement that i9 and rtx 2080 are incredibly overpriced

[@Reziac]

Very much so. All my hardware is last year's model (more like last decade's model) and any info that helps extend its lifespan and usefulness is welcome.

[@quadflopper1012]

computer part videos are like like all the new cellphone review videos, it's easy to look like a big shot and shove the latest and greatest in peoples faces when they are getting the shit free.......

[@therevx5225]

I just wanted to thank you for this. I haven't viewed this video in over 3 years, but because of this, I was able to upgrade my old PC using this as a 12 year old, and I gamed on it for over 2 years. Thanks man, you made it possible.

[@Reziac]

So glad you made this. I'd been looking at upgrading one of my Quads with a Xeon, so this is very timely info.

[@stevelee6568]

Thanks very much for the guide. Only just recently came to know about this mod, literally just bought a X5460 then this video came out! Talk about good timing. Didn't even know I had to mod the microcode before this video so a good job there! Now running P43-ES3G (DDR2 version of the mobo in this video) with a AC7 cooler and running 3.9Ghz. Even faster than my Q9550+P5Q Pro setup I had back in the day.

[@vicchopin]

Phil's the master when it comes to get the best bang for your buck. I mean it in a worldwide level, folks. No miss here!

[@iurabordei933]

Today I installed a Xeon L5410 on my Asrock G31M-GS (which was on the latest BIOS) and detected the CPU without needing any 771 microcode. It even unlocked a set of new feature inside my BIOS. Videos like yours and the ones from Bryan (Tech Yes City) inspired me to give old Xeons a shot. Now it is time for some overclocking.

[@DarkLinkAD]

Thankyou sir, I was waiting for this (Also thanks for doing NFS so often, I was one those who bugged you forever to bench it)

[@captklausstortebeker2752]

I just wanted to say that you inadvertently helped me with an issue. I had an older Core 2 duo celron based machine that the specs stated that is it was compatible with a "newer" Core 2 Quad and so I purchased the Core 2 Quad. I updated the bios and installed the "new" processor and it would not post. Just beeped. I put the older processor back in, I used the guide at the delided.com site and updated the bios with the newer microcode and reinstalled the "newer Core 2 quad now the Core 2 Quad is running like a champ! Thanks Phil!

[@elevate32767]

i love happy ending stories

[@gvii]

This was a great video and a great subject to touch on. I'm glad you were able to put it up. I was super happy with my conversion, though I'm running it on my old Maximus Formula, and that X38 chipset limits my options for CPUs, or at least from what I've read. It runs the 3xxx series processors, but not the 5xxx series. Kind of a bummer, but still much better than coughing up 200 bucks for an old QX that you have no idea what it's been doing for the last 10 years. lol.

[@Tr0llingSt0nes]

Many thanks to you! I was afraid as I surprisingly received a Xeon with no proper cutouts (paid no attention when bought the CPU), but now I see there is no such a big problem.

[@uptechextreme2921]

Great video dude, welcome to the world of 775 mods :) Gonna be a great time, Great Content :)

[@e8root]

I have done this mod for one person who had very little money. He had Phenom X4 with 4GB of ram and wanted to play GTA5 on it... LOL =) He also bought 4GB stick which was useless for him because he did mistake and got DDR3 variety. At work I used LGA775 board with 4GB DDR3 in one stick with some Pentium Dual-Core so we agreed to do an exchange. I bought very cheap 4 core 3GHz Xenon and did the mod to the board and got his Phenom board with him paying some small amount of money, just enough to cover price of processor. He got vastly better performance with 45nm C2Q running at 3GHz compared to old Phenom 1 at 2GHz. On my side performance didn't really improve much if at all... but I got more cores and most importantly chance to use original Phenom :))))))))))))

[@burdebc1]

When I did mine, I cut the notches out of the CPU socket which was actually pretty easy. You can set a CPU you don't care about into the socket while you cut the notches. I will have to try modding the BIOS like you showed since the BIOS I used only supports socket 771 CPUs.

[@Wushu-viking]

HEY ! That's my favorite LA 771 CPU. Cheap and efficient and runs like a Q9650. Build two gamer PC's already and awaiting one more CPU in the mail. Only issue is they are not compatible in a X38/X48. But the P35/P45 is still very good. Also works fine on P31/P41/P43. Actually this chip can work in a nForce 780i very good, and *okay in a nForce 680i (*keep the chipset cooled down - the Quad FSB1333 is a big challenge for this old HOT 680 chipset). (Celeron's as practice CPU's.. haha.. I like that - and agree):) Good video Phil. Like the microcode update toturial. Thumbs up!

[@hugosimoes5119]

Well done. It is one of the things i could do in the future. Those CPU-Z windows could deserve a zoom-in.

[@int53185]

just fired up my old Xeon X5460 motherboard. I am using it as a media player. Hooked up to an old EVGA 640 graphics card @1080p on an old Panasonic 58" plasma. Beautiful picture and smooth 60 fps.

[@goqwertygo]

FYI:Dell motherboards work just fine. I've put Xeons in a variety of different Dell motherboards. Specifically the Dell Inspiron 560 is 1333FSB and DDR3 is a great choice. There are some Vostos you do have to look out for that only support Dual core, but they will still work the a Dual core Xeon

[@bbpetrov]

3 years i am using L5430 on ASUS P5Q DELUXE! The best config ever!

[@mscffp]

As with most of these X54** CPU in 775 socket videos, there is no mention of installing better cooling. Going from a 65w CPU to a 120w CPU can create issues if the stock cooler is used. In addition to that, finding an adequate cooler may be difficult depending on clearances and case size. I'm not saying this is a bad mod, only saying that there is a significant final step left out of almost all of these 771 to 775 mod videos.

[@MVCZ1]

Few months back I found the L5420 for about 12 USD to be really good buy. I took 2 of them for my parent's computers, modded the BIOSes (both were gigabytes boards, but one with G41 and DDR3 and the other is P35 with DDR2) and they work flawlessly. Since the L5420 has TDP of only 50W, it is practically cold and with 8GB RAM and cheap SATA3 SSD, their PCs are still up to the usual tasks and pretty usable nowadays.

[@mqccompo4156]

Top Notch quality content as usual man, don't forget to make a further benchmark vid, will be interesting to know how much better Xeons are compared to my Q9400 considering 1000$ vs 200$ original launch price... Thanks

[@dialupdavid]

As I mentioned in your other video, I did this in my laptop (Clevo D901C). The performance is awesome, but even more the power consumption/TDP are usually FAR superior from a measurement perspective of the consumer variants. Perhaps they’re higher binned silicon in general. Awesome video!

[@GilBatesLovesyou]

I cut the board slot doing mine. I was fine, but I made sure to use a brand new razor blade. My friend who told me about the mod however, he used an old one when he did his and ended up actually bending some pins and had to really carefully bend them back again. So if you do cut the board tabs, make sure to use a sharp/brand new blade and be careful about the pins.

[@beardedretroguy6428]

I did the notch mod on two Xeon E5450s by using a hand dremel tool with a bit head that perfectly fit inside the notches. Just used it to cut in the new notches. Boy work perfectly. In fact, I used this mod to build a Linux server for Plex and network file storage.

[@langam7017]

I ran an E5450 for a while at ~4 - 4.2GHz. It ran games like NFS2016 just fine. Awesome that there is still some life left in this now over 14 Year old socket

[@riptoast8856]

Phil, you should make a video about pencil modding athlon XP's to unlock the multiplier. this is such a classic mod and it's also a bit easier. this is a proper video btw, good job :D

[@PearComputingDevices]

I did mod my e6400 back in the day to 1333 FSB, for a grand total of 2.66 ghz. 25% more powerful CPU for next to no work. But in the case of Xeon, I would pay someone that way I am not burning up chips. I had a Pentium e5500 I almost damaged pin modding. It was a next to free CPU, but thats not the point. Neat video, as always.

[@WaybackTECH]

This video was watched on my LGA771 modded system. When I did this mod 4 years ago, pre-modded chips didn't start showing up on ebay until about the time I was finished with playing around with the mod a few months later, mostly then it was pre-stickered chips. With proper cooling, voltage tweaks that 5450 will top out at about 4.5Ghz, but stability wise 4.2 - 4.3 is where it should land. I was more worried about filing too much of the CPU away ( E5450 cost a little more then that now ) so I modded the sockets instead.

[@blakecasimir]

Indeed, some precise cutting of the plastic stubs in the socket with a small razor blade could be a lot easier than filing the CPU.

[@namesalvaje]

Great video! Didn't knew about those mods.

Still a better notch than on the Pixel 3 XL. I'll let myself out..

[@cammiso94]

My buddy and I started the threads on OCN that gained that popularity that made this video and ones like it. Full circle.

[@matcarfer]

Hey Phil thanks for the video! One constructive criticism: please focus the camera on the table and put the procesors on the table so its always in focus, the intro gave me headache. Keep up the good work!

[@2007tantrum]

Very useful info. Thank you !

[@PAEMusic]

Great video, Phil! I just realized that we both like windows 98 and windows xp gaming, and we both are named Phil. Lol

[@elevate32767]

very useful, thanks for posting this

[@RetroZwierz]

It's funny, but I'm pretty sure that the exactly same processor is sitting in one of my computers right now 😜 With 16GB RAM, SSD drive and Geforce GTX950 OC ACX it's quite a fast machine. I'm not using it for gaming so much, but it runs fx. Battlefield 1 on 1080p, max details without any problems.

[@johnsoupir8209]

I did this on my Optiplex 780 a few months ago. My new quad core Xeon X3363 has been running perfectly. I modded my socket instead, easier in my opinion.

[@mamdouh-Tawadros]

Excellent video, thank you.

[@RetroAdventure]

Thanks for this! Now I need to revisit mine lol

[@ioandragulescu6063]

I remember when I upgraded from a Core Duo E2200 to this, was in 2013 or so and with the mod it was about 50$ back then, including the BIOS custom tweak (was a local guy). Really good setup, still have it somewhere in storage :) Back than I chose to cut the mobo socket, touching the CPU with a file was taboo for me :P . On a side note, it's insane how some Chinese decided to mass produce a ... mod, I'm talking about the sticker thingy

[@jovankujundzic4035]

I have a question, can you tell me do I have to remove paper from middle of that alredy moded cpu wiht sticker? Thanks in further...

[@okisibarani]

nice video. Can you make the comparison between standard clock and overclocked in gaming performance? with i5 2400 as base. sorry to ask.. But i always want to know how big is delta performance between overclocked (4Ghz) xeon 775 and i5 2400.

[@kingston908]

I have one of those asus boards for LGA 1155. I plan on using it in my upcoming computer rebuild video. Also activate your motherboard Phil.

[@dabombinablemi6188]

BTW, at the moment at least you can get an E5450 in Australia on Ebay for $25, and X5450 for $22. Under half what they were 3 years ago.

[@BReal-10EC]

This is a cool mod.. I remember seeing it mentioned/covered years ago. Seems like a good use of existing hardware. The closest I can come to this performance for the price on US ebay for a mobo/cpu combo is a Gigabyte mobo with an AMD Athlon II X4 620 for $50 shipped- which isn't a powerhouse, but can be OC'd easily iirc. But add in ram and HDD and Power Supply and Windows... Just shows buying complete used desktops are a better value that used parts to build with.

[@philscomputerlab]

I want to look at some AMD stuff in the near future :)

[@stamasd8500]

Phil, I should stop watching your videos. I end up buying new hardware after every single one. :)

[@onceagain77]

I install an E5472, that I got on ebay for $$15, on my evga 750i ftw mobo and it works great. The only difference is I took off the notches from the motherboard socket instead of filing down cpu, which I didn't know was an option and wish I had done instead.

[@Walczyk]

Hey Phil, I just want to pass down the good info that files are one-direction only, so you need to apply force when pushing but not pulling. It makes the job SO much cleaner and faster. 50% of wasted energy if you use force in both directions :)

[@philscomputerlab]

Thanks! The filming made the entire thing a lot more awkward that is should be :D

[@YouShorts..]

thanks, this videos help me

[@dylanheadrick3789]

Another great mod that should be paired with this video would be the BSEL mod stepping the x5450 FSB from 333 to 400. I do believe that takes the total clock speed up to around 3.7 GHz. That is as long as this board supports 400MHz FSB.

[@cliffordgerona7801]

what do you do if you don't have a spare core 2 duo processor to flash the bios first?

[@FiLiMa_]

I ordered the e5450 and my RX 580 finally got a RMA number today. I was very tempted to buy a Firepro s9050 12gb to have while my RX 580 is away on RMA. I wanted to see how the s9050 would run. I know it is based on the HD 7970.

[@TheBigupz]

The Good ol "patch", i remember going to my local pc flea market, and talking with some dudes about how this was made, we had a blast destroying a lot of stuff trying to get it right, at the end we got a load fo Xeons from Old decomissioned servers and built some high end potatoes

[@tomcraftdonkey2285]

I have a 775 test bench and if I do the micro codes, will it effect my other core 2 chips?

[@panteleon1]

i was waiting for this video, compare it with the Q8400, lets see what the actual difference is from a mainstream quad core

[@evacepul2463]

06:30 what equipment is used?

[@dazagulz4887]

love old xeon,,dirt cheap from china and work extremely well,,,using x3440 nice cheap procie

[@narkovla3722]

Cool video. I have done this with Xeon X5460 and it rocks almost every game but ac origins with its denuvo sse4.2 requirement cant launch

[@PiercedJedi]

I already have a Core 2 Extreme QX9650 (3GHz 12MB Cache) is there any performance benefit (other than lower power consumption) for a system like mine? The main limiting factor that made me jump to an i7 6700K was being stuck at 4GB RAM on my old motherboard. But I've been keeping my old hardware the last few upgrades...

[@Del11k]

Just picked up a Xeon 5460 for £7.50,that is already modded.This is going into my msi g41m-s03,8gb ddrr3 and msi gtx660ti oc.

[@vaishnavmd883]

Bro my mobo is intel dg41wv by doing this will the bios detect the processor i have upgradef the bios to latest version

[@mobilesnapper79]

Do these work on the sff hp8000 pcs? As the q9650 is still expensive

[@johnp6712]

What is the tools? (black screwdrivers?) And the oranges what is it?

[@BoomBox02]

I too have known about this mod for some time now but haven't jumped on the band wagon yet. As i currently have a number of heavily overclocked core2quads that i use for various things, i would only be interested in the Xeon mod if the overclocking performance is better than that of the core2quad cpu's.

[@dryster123]

So, does the sticker ever migrate under heat cycling?

[@Caine117]

is it posible to run a e5450 xeon on my old asus p5e3 deluxe ?

[@alexkindl861]

Phil, when you do the results video, with the overclocking, could you add the watt draw from the wall as well? I did this last year to replace a e8400, and found that the watt draw was double, so went back. I can't remember the xeon at the moment, it's knocking around in a box.

[@armorgeddon]

Maybe your Xeon just made your GPU work harder and that's where the increased power draw came from.

[@JohnSmith-iu8cj]

www.delidded.com/lga-771-xeon-microcode/ this is the link to the microcode update, phil forgot to add it to the description ;)

[@GzeeBRII]

I got two X5450s for free, paid near 7 USD on the sticker, added the microcodes to the bios, cut the fingers on the socket. After this lil work i got my old G41MT-S2P up and running X5450 and 8GB DDR3.

[@GzeeBRII]

And now the thing is shoved in my drawer, not being used

[@caligoclarus]

Damn. I just got stickers for 84 cents on eBay.

[@MithunPawar_ShreeHari]

motherboard with ddr2 and can be used? Can u please list some of them..

[@bribi5940]

Just a small info: Most Gigabyte LGA775 motherboards already have the required microcodes for Xeons by default, especially P35 boards! I've been using a Xeon E5450 on my GA-EP35-DS3 for quite some time, with the default microcodes from Gigabyte. Pic: i.imgur.com/Tnxp6dd.png

[@koevoet7288]

Currently on a q9400, i’d like to get kinda the best for 775. What do you recommend?

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

Makes me wish i still had my 680i sli motherboard. I would have done this and see if i could have put a faster clocked xeon on the olr board.

[@Jerre27]

My asus p5b bricked after i wanted to flash the BIOS with the modded ROM... 🙁

[@takerulee9342]

The microcode for bios mod is down. Could you send me those files needed to mod bios?

[@sophustranquillitastv4468]

It hard to find the 771 CPU that are not pre-modded or didn't have mod-sticker already installed to install on 771 motherboard. Especially, in aliexpress.

[@goran1986m]

I installed the cpu successfully, but i noticed high temps 73 C when cpu is stressed.the cpu-z multi cpu stress cpu test scores 1115 and drops down to 950 after 5min when the cpu temps go up to 73 C (Core Temp software). Is it normal ? I did not overclock, its working on 3.16Mhz. My cooler is lc power cc 95.

[@phillipcrews3203]

does the ali-express already modded ones actually work???

[@abeker]

I have a P5E64 WS Pro motherboard with x38 chipset, so my options are quite limited unfortunately. I already have a Q9450 so there's not much to be gained by upgrading with another CPU. Maybe if I can get a cheap Q9650 or X3370... My system already has an SSD and I recently upgraded from 4GB ram to 8GB, so it will still be a quite decent system for a while (at least for webbrowsing, playing videos, simple office tasks). I'll probably use it until Windows stops supporting it.

[@jafinch78]

Any workarounds you know of to get to work on the Q45 boards? I'm reading into for my HP Compaq 8000 Elite Small Form Factor AU247AV mobo.

[@paulhughes9553]

Nope. Just tried. DC8000 786G7 mobo. reverted to W7 to put 1.4 BIOS on but it doesn't recognize X5450 and don't think the BIOS can be tweaked. Someone send me a microcode link if you have one please!?

[@windowswhistler5516]

Does this work with every lga775 board?

[@xx3868]

HI, I have a issue with a Xeon i just installed on older ASUS P5QL SE MB which has quads in its specifications so can handle 4 cores. Windows 7 installed, socket 775 Put a modified Xeon in and its stable and working ok at about the same speed as my old core 2 Duo but CPU-Z ect is only showing 2 cores and 2 threads?. I went into Msconfig and advanced/boot and only 1,2 cores are there to change; shouldnt 1-4 be available? I have original BIOS and also if this makes a diff the bios is set to IDE not ACHI but i tried changing it to ACHI and it wouldnt boot so put it back to IDE and its fine and working. Would that setting need to be changed or is it only for security ect eventhough ACHI is more up to date?. would i have to have loaded windows fresh set to Achi to use ACHI? and do i need to worry as the computer is Win 7 anyway? So do the settings in BIOS make any diff to 4 cores being seen? Thanks for any assistance you can give Tim

[@CroFenix84]

would q9650 work on a modified motherboard for the xeon e5420, or motherboard must be restored to the old version of the bios to accept q9650 again?

[@philscomputerlab]

The 9650 should work with the modded BIOS!

[@amitm1157]

Thanks for the demonstration. How to download award bios from motherboard to do this mod? I don't have the bios update for the motherboard anywhere as its a unknown brand but I have the award flasher awdflash with me. I also have CBROM v1.95. tool. Can it make a backup of bios from motherboard as a bin file?

[@amitm1157]

It seems that this processor mod is not supported by G31 motherboards with Q35 and some other graphics chipsets. It was the reason for the processor to not boot.The procedure seemed to work with latest xeon micro codes added to the bios file. Viewers may try asus or gigabyte motherboards which are supposed to work. There is a long list of graphic or board chipsets which don't work with some lga 771 xeons so buyers beware of those chipsets when doing this mod.

[@johnk7134]

Good Video Phil! Meanwhile we can call you Xeon Butcher :P :P..nahh...This gigabyte mobo does no go past 400-410 fsb so the E0 80W needs a better mobo, maybe in a future video!!

[@MrMassivemanmeat]

I wonder if this would work on a OEM Dell LGA 755. Optiplex 780.

[@gamingwithsyt5535]

Also, can you suggest me a mobo which supports E5470 or higher with ddr3 ram? Edit: my mobo is a g41 mts2, max tdp 136watt.

[@almaba985]

Can I put a xeon on a optiplex 745?

[@zegiyt4069]

😑 I have the same Mobo I have Intel Q8440 8GB Ram 120ssd 250hdd Gt710 Is it ok to change it to xeon proc. And btw Idk how to mod bios to work with the lga775

[@nicolashoareau5992]

If that Gigabyte motherboard tries to recover from the backup BIOS, perhaps the backup chip needs to flashed as well to version F8. Although I wouldn't recommend it if you still harbor doubts about that particular BIOS version.

[@CristiBucerzan]

I think removing those plastic pieces from the socket it's safer and quicker then creating the 2 notches on the cpu,plus you only have to do it once,after that u can insert any 771 cpu in the socket,after aplying the sticker 2 it ofc.

[@MrWho-qh9zq]

Can it be used without sticker ?

[@IvanStojkovski]

Does it work on intel motherboard ?

[@CoccoUri]

Just saw your video on my recommended list of videos. I think your easy way of doing such videos is a nice alternation. By the way, are you a native German speaker? Because I can hear a familiar accent :P

[@philscomputerlab]

Thanks. Yea I'm from Austria originally.

[@marttigh3663]

still a great mod

[@peterjantzer4767]

Does a 5568 work?

[@TungThanh-pt1oq]

What Your mobo use