Modern Horizons 3 is more powerful than Modern Horizons 2 (PPT part 4)

Part1: • Talkin' bout Modern Ho...
Part2: • Yappin' bout Modern Ho...
Part 3: • Modern Horizons 3 spoi...
Tier list: x.com/Aspiringspike/status/17...

[@MikeAsbestos]

I thought Shifting Woodlands said creature, not permanent... holy shit

[@nathanjainchill3603]

Spike, you're such a gem; this kind of set would be ridiculous to digest on my own. It's so nice to have you working hard to keep us up to date with everything. Thank you

[@AaronRotenberg]

doot doot disruptor flute In the leak thread on Reddit, someone dubbed Disruptor Flute the "Didgeridon't".

[@zacharybraverman4870]

It's modeled after a shakuhachi (Japanese bamboo flute), not a didgeridoo

[@AaronRotenberg]

​@@zacharybraverman4870 But the "Bambon't" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[@darkonekosuke2]

​@AaronRotenberg shakudon't almost sounds like "fuck you don't" . That's close to something.

[@zacharybraverman4870]

You make a compelling point.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Can't get it with Urza's Saga.

[@TiredMages]

You don't even have to tap the woodland itself. Bananas.

[@clisby]

i mean it would be so much worse if you tapped it because you dont get etbs and if it was tapped all it would do is provide activated and static abilities (still probably good lol)

[@mb778_]

Don't get ETB's, you say...?

[@AnonymousAnonymous-ht4cm]

For fair-ish uses like copying a creature and attacking with it, not tapping makes sense.

[@drillerkiller9]

​@@clisby but... thats exactly what the card does. u dont get ETBs anyway obviously

[@clisby]

@@drillerkiller9 if you had to tap to activate you couldn’t attack with a creature basically

[@Shpookey]

field of ruin stonks going up frfr

[@MajorTim01]

Would be really excited if boom/bust land destruction decks become more of a thing because of all the land effects in mh3, love seeing those kinds of decks

[@xMikeyHardyx]

Ironically (is that applicable here?) I suspect Spike will bust out his hellraiser boom//bust deck again

[@jessoftherocks]

I'm doin landfall steppe lynx, turn one flagstones, force of virtue, zuran orb, steppe lynx. Turn two ghost quarter, tap flag, ghost my flagstones, two more triggers landfall, tap one land cast brought back, bring back flag and ghost, sac flag to orb, idyllic grange swing for 14 turn two?

[@gnkstudios6138]

Woodlands doesn’t even restrict to sorcery 😂that card is cracked beyond repair

[@AutkastKain]

That's what I noticed first. Like WotC just decided to take the gloves off

[@auberry8613]

Not restricted to sorcery, doesn't tap to activate, you can just hold up an ambush

[@8Blackmamba81]

Is this better than Dark Depths?

[@gnkstudios6138]

@@8Blackmamba81 there different. Dark depths is a finisher. Woodlands is an enabler. More times than none enablers have been the most problematic broken cards than finishers. Ask legacy players

[@smob0]

​@@8Blackmamba81 I'm pretty sure it combos with dark depths. This card seems to enable a lot.

[@crap1521]

Sink into stupor seems like the strongest MDFC so far imo, it seems like a really potent effect on a land. So much better than jwari disruption it’s not even funny

[@anosmianAcrimony]

Seems good in hard U/W control decks that like that kind of effect and also want to hit all their land drops

[@captaincrazy6936]

The tier list is awesome. Thank you. I love your takes on all the cards. Your knowledge of the format is unmatched

[@thetom341]

Yeah, we're so used to Spike that we take it for granted that he just has this galaxy-brain level of knowledge about Modern.

[@MikeAsbestos]

Estrid's Invocation can copy Leyline Binding and always lock down the biggest threat your opponent has. It can also copy stuff like Abundant Growth to draw you a card every turn, which I know isn't a *good* idea, but it's an idea.

[@namename8004]

I love this format for spoiler videos. Your spoiler videos had started to get really long. You've pared them down for the last couple sets, but I think you might've even hit the two hour mark before. These are much longer for a viewer not keeping up with them, but I can easily fit a 30 minute video into my day. So I've been watching everyday. It's also great that you're going into detail on what seems like more cards than you normally would.

[@grizzerotwofour7858]

I dig the format, and i think you started off with the correct card. Damn, that Woodland is good

[@DanielJParish]

I greatly appreciate the speed at which you come out with these. Most of my friends don't follow spoilers as closely as I do. So it's cool to find someone knowledgeable about the format to give me ideas while spoilers are so coming out. Would love to see more of this in the future from you.

[@BrunoNunes83]

really liked this format, keep up the good work! 🎉🎉

[@SonsOfSauron]

Really loving this format of videos, super appreciate the hard work!

[@sabertoothpupy7742]

I love this format of critical first looks. love the effort youre putting into this spike thanks for your hard work

[@Randomperson-pk3ce]

Shifting woodlands holy bejeesus. Its not even legendary. It enters untapped?? It taps for a color??? It doesn’t even need you to tap it for you to win???? Wth wotc

[@lunalevendis]

It astounds me the work you've put in to this series. Thank you for all you do!

[@fmasxd5691]

I like this format for card evaluation. I'm still not sold on some of your takes on specific cards, but I like this as a way to sort your ideas.

[@donovan4444]

Really appreciate you breaking these cards down. I want the knowledge but wouldn't be able to evaluate them well myself

[@jordanrutledge7943]

Love so many of the new d and f tier cards such as the prowess bestow and the Rakdos cranial plating for my lower power level cube

[@phil817]

Love this format, keep em coming.

[@Ixiink]

I love this format I think it’s really useful to see all the cards and how they compare to eachother!

[@Kiryael]

thank you for putting in the work, very helpful videos !

[@Aburaishi]

The fact that Sundering Eruption can target basics is not nothing. Definitely a huge upgrade for those decks based around punishing greedy manabases (although those aren't exactly meta-defining right now lmao)

[@Ixiink]

Spike you rock and I can’t wait to see all the new decks you make and play!!!

[@silphonym]

Very cool format. I don't really play modern (yet?) but I do watch a decent amount of your videos so having an overview of what you think about the cards is really interesting to me.

[@shelkofsky1]

@aspiring spike. have you posted your thoughts on the energy aluren card called primal prayers. That card seems like it is going to birth a very strong creature combo deck and I havent seen much buzz around it.

[@artholomu]

The sheer excitement in this man's voice is truly aspiring!

[@JustRightPinedo]

The fact that Disrupter flute can be cast in response to a Cascade trigger but also stops yawg etc is very strong

[@mtgcubetube]

I highly appreciate this format.

[@iTzDritte]

29:09 “In a vacuum” we caught him saying it! I joke, wonderful breakdown Spike ❤

[@David-cy4qu]

would love to see some deck lists you’re cooking up sir

[@shadowseek27]

sowing mycospawn makes eldrazi tron good too right? might make it so you dont have to mulligan as heavy / have a different game plan

[@k0olmini11]

I like this format. It gives a better idea of where you stand on cards. More quantitative

[@Anonymoose-2750]

You didn't mention it but Estrid isn't new but a reprint into modern. It seen limited legacy play in some azorios prison enchantress builds mostly around energy field, ETB monarch/initiative, etc. Maybe take a look at some of those legacy decks as a starting point, maybe a revived white enchant prison build from yesteryear I keep holding out hope for crystaline sliver, nullrod, opposition agent, and councils judgement. Oh and that commander tron land.

[@aguyyouneverknew]

What about using Wavebreaker in a wizards list rather than a prowess list? There's not too much competition in the 1 drop slot, and it works to both be a 1 drop wizard and something that can potentially trigger prowess sometimes in the mid game for slickshot or soul-scar mage

[@clisby]

maybe the marionette guy could cook in bombardment? I'm gonna try it as just a worse mayhem devil that costs 2

[@MattRose30000]

The best thing about MDFC lands is that they help mitigate magic's greatest design flaw: mana screw/flood.

[@TheMagician3000]

Exactly! In the future you will not play lands in your deck, it will have only MDFCs that come into play untapped.

[@pokedadsam9041]

14:26 disruptor flute is going to replace my cursed totem in many sideboards.

[@cyruslyday9112]

Another banger video

[@jonesdarryn1]

Also, with shifting woodlands you can minus a strong planeswalker, send it to the grave because you minused it, then copy it with shifting woodlands and plus it.

[@sjisx]

Is there a loam dredge build for shifting woodland? 🤔🤔🤔

[@johnreese5739]

I think the main thing I'm interested in for Marionette Apprentice is if it will be played in yawg over blood artist/zulaport since it generates fodder and doesn't die to bowmasters/ren and six

[@iKilLaMoDz]

That new land is just bonkers. I can't wait to play with this set. Also will be playing toxic deluge. Shadow will always have a spot in my heart no matter what and deluge helps shadow.

[@TADMOORE]

If you have the mana, you can even shifting an emrakul discarded with the trigger on the stack. If you are going to the Omniscience built, you already would have Emrakuls on the deck in a way...

[@mikelacy3447]

Marionette apprentice seems more comparable to blood artist or zulaport cutthroat. It’s the same effect but comes with a 1/1 token which is great in those types of decks because it’s another body to sacrifice. I think spike might’ve missed that it triggers on creatures too

[@leumasecallaw6313]

That's what I was thinking, it just feels like a huge zulaport cutthroat upgrade and the second body is hugely relevant in yawg

[@shelkofsky1]

It doesn't gain life. So you can't go infinite with it in yawg. But might still see play in yawg since it makes a body

[@ChichimonLeagues]

Soon when an opponent plays an unfamilar card in modern the question won't be "Woah, what set was that from?" but "Woah, which Horizons did you have to camp the midnight release of to find 4 of those?"

[@Michael.032]

T1 Bauble, crack Bauble, Fetch, crack for a forest, Grazer, put a Sunken Citadel into play, Flare of Cultivation, put a basic into play. T2 You have Bauble, a Fetch, a Grazer, and a Flare in your yard (Delirium is on), and a forest, a basic, and a Sunken Citadel in play. Play Shifting Woodland. You can tap the Sunken Citadel, the forest, and the Shifting Woodland to activate the Woodland, meaning that you have one extra mana (of any color, since you got the basic off of Flare of Cultivation) to get something worth copying into your graveyard. Sadly no Faithless Looting anymore, but I'm sure there's something out there.

[@biobossx99]

(listens with intent, lesson from spike sensei)

[@TheLimedew]

Kinnan loves shifting woodlands

[@adamngadi855]

Unmarked grave can get a non legendary card in the graveyard, but im not sure if theres other entomb effects that can get omniscience in the yard

[@AutkastKain]

I like that guide of souls looks like a Kaldheim card using kaladesh energy. I do hope they bring energy back into standard one day, but not on kaladesh

[@Thelona]

Reef Worm feels like a card that wants to be paired with Vesperlark. Don't know where to go from there yet. Just the initial thought.

[@tuuru3433]

Could Sowing Mycospawn be good in Tron?

[@terriblejungleplayer4668]

Cursed mirror could do some gnarly stuff with goblin engineer

[@chaselewis5372]

Think pyrosurfer I think is a bit better than mentioned here. Though I agree the 3rd mana it effectively needs is a bit rough. 1. The common MH3 fetchlands have been officially spoiled which I think could go in a deck. The common fetchlands tap for 1 colorless and then you can sacrifice them whenever for a tapped basic. This means you could use them in your mana base then not sacrifice them until you have 3 lands so your third land doesn't necessarily have to be a fetch. 2. They have introduced 2 new premium cards that come with at least 1 extra bodies. Amped Raptor & Ajani. This also maximizes ajani if he does flip since in mono-white his 0 cost ability is just waaaaay worse than if you have some red cards. Think if the thought is 'we put it into existing shells it doesn't have a home'. I'd agree, but it's entirely possible there is some new deck that this goes in that is better. Definitely not an S-B but F feels a bit harsh for a card that can make you swing for 18+ on T3. Collector's Cage is cool and built it in paper since it's pretty cheap, but it's fundamental issue is even if it's good at triggering the hideaway the deck just doesn't have the density of strong hits to make that super reliable of a gameplan. There might be another go wide aggro strategy that just focuses on killing quicker & faster, but give Modern has had less viable aggro decks than legacy over the last few years any form of aggro might be just impossible.

[@AnteraxxX]

2:15 Sing me a song about Buried Alive (reprint) an OG Emrakul and Shifting Woodland in response to the Graveyard trigger 😶. With Necrobloom, Wight of the Reliquary and Retreat to Coralhelm you can loop all Lands outa the deck and hardcast Emrakul alternativly.

[@lesternomo6578]

galvanic discharge is just so cool

[@amoskoyama4647]

spike reef worm + greater good lets you draw and discard and absolutely absurd amount of cards which could let you pretty easily set up a massive hollow one vengevine turn.

[@amoskoyama4647]

also reef worm + persist is funny

[@GreaterSinistral]

That was my first thought as well.

[@throwaway7425]

I have a big problem with raptor hitting powerstone pretty well. Skred red might come back as U/R energy

[@amphetamean66X]

If you cast Distruptor Flute on say turn 2 and name the card the opponent just played will their card still resolve? Since they already cast it I'd say yes or does the Flute now force then to have to play more mana. I'm kind of confused on how it works. Its it like an artiifact Mana Leak? or does it just tax the next version of the thing you named.

[@InfinitusGamer]

A question for everyone: do you think Modern Eldrazi can still be Eldrazi tron, or It Will be without Tron lands??

[@artificialfreedom]

I looked at the spoiler and was beyond surprised. There is no way that this will not be meta-defining

[@marcantoniosavelli1710]

I don't see raptor in a deck with four drops right now, you just don't want to whiff on turn 2. Maybe in a dedicated energy deck, with other payoffs besides raptor. Still best card in the set, but the applications in decks with a curve higher than 2 are unclear.

[@benjaminrichard7741]

I’m wondering what is going to be spoiled next!

[@Cecekcz]

I think Energy is gonna be insane. Some of the cards looking good even without the support of other energy cards is a good indication of that usually.

[@jangolangthespy]

if shifting woodlands deck is real, im calling mine "shift and tell"

[@JT-91]

cursed mirror off of your geological appraiser? estrids will be used alongside hopeless nightmare in a beseech resurgent belief deck

[@THEMithrandir09]

This set makes want to pick up legacy lands again.

[@knifeceiling]

reefworm plus heartless summoning!

[@TheCoinFlip]

These tier lists are great content

[@auberry8613]

Something interesting about Amped Raptor flipping over a Galvanic Discharge is that you can just target the amped raptor, pay 1 energy to cast discharge, and then get 3 more energy, setting up for a really big energy play later

[@olop-ln7ot]

Can you pay 0 energy?

[@mineaguscraft]

​@@olop-ln7otyes

[@Alucula]

@@olop-ln7ot Yep, any amount includes 0 and on top of that it's a "may"

[@senken12]

Must not have been spoiled when you made this video, but Guide of Souls plus "Primal Prayers" is just a one-sided Aluren

[@error00001]

Woodlands is really cool and messed up but another reason to run graveyard and non-basic land hate

[@otterfire4712]

"There's little to no power creep in MTG" gets funnier as time goes on

[@williamw8590]

Who has ever said this

[@AmazingAlec93]

Woodland seems real good with life from the loam

[@Deedeedee156]

Glad to see someone excited for this set at least! Personally I think most of these cards are underwhelming and clearly just reprinted for commander (even though they literally made COMMANDER precons for the supposed MODERN set)

[@xakuyer]

Woodlands is bananas dang

[@HavoCentral]

Will woodland be banned? That's the real question

[@JoeKell365]

where was Disruptor Flute during Rhino season? "in response to the cascade trigger, flash in Disruptor Flute, name Crashing Footfalls"

[@tarmotaipale5704]

20:54 I think Triton Wavebreaker should be compared to soul-scar mage. Soul-scar mage has one more toughness, is red and turns noncombat damage to creatures into -1/-1 counters. That's not much, aside from the toughness maybe, so i think it could make sense to cut Soul-scar Mages for Triton Wavebreakers to gain the modality it gives in the bestow option

[@ClubbingSealCub]

Sowing Mycospawn is Reap and Sow with a 3/3 body. It's kind of crazy.

[@RickHardpack]

WotC continuing the trend of giving powerful cards to Yawg and telling Murktide to kick rocks

[@williamw8590]

Cursed mirror is a crazy sideboard card against creativity, copy the archon with haste to get 2 triggers

[@maoamftw]

Every tribal gets a card for modern besides faeries, why?

[@carternoble6469]

I’ve unironically registered harnessed lightning in modern before. Galvanic discharge is a sick card.

[@TehSeksyManz]

Would you still run any copies of HL alongside GD? Maybe a 4-2 split? Idk, I can't decide, myself.

[@anosmianAcrimony]

I'm not convinced Disruptor Flute is great against Amulet just because they can often afford to pay 9 mana for Primeval Titan, especially if you've spent a turn casting Disruptor Flute. But it seems great against the other decks you mention!

[@devilbhrothesavage2807]

Just wait for the official Ugins Binding Spoiler

[@MikeAsbestos]

Holy shit, that card is absolutely busted. How did they ever think that was okay? A free Cyclonic Rift attached to your 7-drop? Sojourner's Companion now draws you 3 cards and clears your opponent's whole board for minimal investment

[@jadegrace1312]

​@@MikeAsbestosWhat you just described is not a small amount of investment at all.

[@MikeAsbestos]

@jadegrace1312 A small amount of investment for the deck already running Sojourners Companion

[@jerrymcdaniel6643]

You can stifle woodland

[@brockplayspokemonoo7]

UR Storm/energy seems like it might be a thing 🤔

[@Justjoey17]

I think toxic deluge is at least an A. Only 1 black pip makes it way more flexible than damnation. -x-x is also sometimes relevant.

[@baconsir1159]

I think Cranial Plating is better than Ram because the former equips at instant speed

[@DivinePrototype]

F for my boy reef worm

[@crazypyro777]

At least Shifting Woodlands says EoT instead of next end step...

[@GhostMasqerade]

So many fucking commander cards in this set jesus

[@lesternomo6578]

estrid's invocation+princess takes flight = best worst 2 card combo

[@ToastedWaffles_]

Legacy is gunna be a wild f*cking place after this set lmao.

[@zapyourtumor1892]

spike you sleepin on nadu im just saying, card is insane

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

marionette apprentice is not just damage when an artifact dies, also damage when a CREATURE dies. that's a huge difference, way better than disciple of the vault, this is disciple of the vault PLUS 4 more "lose life on death" cards for a deck that cares about that effect. not good in yawgmoth since it doesn't gain you life, but there are some marginal modern decks that use effects like this.