Modern Horizons 3 Spoilers: Aluren, but with Energy, Two-Mana Bosh, Energy Soul Sister and More! MTG

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@Martini_1911
@Martini_1911 4 ай бұрын
Seth, they aren't power creeping cards to live through a bowmaster's trigger, they're toughness creeping them
@peewee0224
@peewee0224 4 ай бұрын
A little of both. Partly it’s easy to bump up the toughness of creatures because it boost the power ever so slightly. But also wizards isn’t stupid they know the best removal spells in the format and how to build creatures around those removal spells.
@panko2848
@panko2848 4 ай бұрын
G O O D I N S O U L S I S T E R S
@knigt
@knigt 4 ай бұрын
I cannot believe that Seth pronounces “Acererak” perfectly on the first try, without missing a beat. More proof that he’s trolling us the rest of the time
@derrydarko8076
@derrydarko8076 4 ай бұрын
How about when he said, “Summoning sick simulacrum synthesizer tokens” absolutely flawlessly? He’s definitely trolling.
@kristbg
@kristbg 3 ай бұрын
"Vulshodok" begs to differ
@robertk1834
@robertk1834 4 ай бұрын
We need a wasteland variant in Modern, something really harsh, none of this 'replace with a basic land' nonsense.
@justinmiller7398
@justinmiller7398 4 ай бұрын
They will save that for the next set.
@filiphorvath8932
@filiphorvath8932 4 ай бұрын
Okay but it exiles itself :)
@alexanderficken9354
@alexanderficken9354 4 ай бұрын
if you play enough of the destroy and replace cards, they will run out of basics
@lesternomo6578
@lesternomo6578 4 ай бұрын
@@filiphorvath8932 honestly yea
@NathanBullock-w9n
@NathanBullock-w9n 4 ай бұрын
It's got boseju
@gabriellecureux5528
@gabriellecureux5528 4 ай бұрын
Man how is soul sisters not a teir one deck with how many cards it has gotten over the years
@jasonbfleece9420
@jasonbfleece9420 4 ай бұрын
Bro best believe this next piece is going to rocket it to Tier 1!!!! 💎🙌
@Malverde888
@Malverde888 4 ай бұрын
Orcish Bowmasters
@Deathkeeper43
@Deathkeeper43 4 ай бұрын
​@@Malverde888 1/2 Soul Sister incoming! So good in Soul Sisters!
@eliaswolter2955
@eliaswolter2955 4 ай бұрын
unfortunaly I assume Chalaice of the Void wrecks the deck pretty hard. But I guess that didn't hold back Deaths shadow either so who knows.
@NathanBullock-w9n
@NathanBullock-w9n 4 ай бұрын
There are a lot of powerful decks They aren't on the meta list
@connormohs6046
@connormohs6046 4 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn’t mention Death’s shadow with Toxic Deluge, it literally can’t die to it!
@ketchumall8243
@ketchumall8243 4 ай бұрын
Yeah came to say the same thing. Seems quite good for Death's shadow
@NapPaints
@NapPaints 4 ай бұрын
yeah, also with the new mdfc's that shock you for 3
@Kamiken1
@Kamiken1 4 ай бұрын
Ashling actually is really good in top deck mode. If you can't discard, you still get to draw. She just doesn't care if you have cards in hand or not to draw a card.
@totakekeslider3835
@totakekeslider3835 4 ай бұрын
Shifting Woodland point blank might be my favorite land of all time now. It's an all-star in any graveyard strategy with green, and even good with others not focused on the yard. Day 1 include in my Mycotyrant and Muldrotha decks. Also, it doesn't tap, so it can even help pay for itself!
@WUHtrain
@WUHtrain 4 ай бұрын
Alurun lets your opponent also cast creatures at flash and without paying their cost. It is neat that primal prayers isn't symetrical.
@TheSpunYarn
@TheSpunYarn 4 ай бұрын
I think 90% of Bosh players are playing Bosh because they're fans of the character. Odds are anybody wanting to play the spiciest possible Red artifact deck left him a long time ago. Long live Bosh!
@Rosta720
@Rosta720 4 ай бұрын
I'm so excited for energy! Kaladesh was when I got into magic and I've always loved it :)
@FaeFemboi
@FaeFemboi 4 ай бұрын
Sowing mycospawn getting triggers on CAST instead of enters is kind of insane
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 4 ай бұрын
When Cast is a downside because you can't blink it...
@micahhonig1575
@micahhonig1575 4 ай бұрын
First we had power creep. Now we have toughness creep. Thanks Orcish bowmasters!
@thepdhpod
@thepdhpod 4 ай бұрын
MH3: I'm not sure where this card fits in Modern, but it's a commander staple.
@NathanBullock-w9n
@NathanBullock-w9n 4 ай бұрын
A lot of cards in commander can fit in modern
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 4 ай бұрын
It's because Commander has a much wider range of what is considered playable, whereas Modern players only consider the top 10 or so decks playable. Singleton, 100-card decks exacerbate this.
@baconsir1159
@baconsir1159 4 ай бұрын
Well Phyrexian Tower is going right into Yawg
@elijahwalker323
@elijahwalker323 4 ай бұрын
@@jeffe2267 That plus a lot of effects get better in a game that goes longer than 3-5 turns.
@jyrinx
@jyrinx 4 ай бұрын
Oh man, the memories. I actually had an Aluren/Recycle deck _in standard._
@inkarozu2309
@inkarozu2309 4 ай бұрын
Normally when a new set comes out I get like 2-3 new cards for each deck, but this set there are like 15 things I want to add to Belbe, Corrupted Observer. Sowing Mycospawn, Wight of the Reliquary and Shifting Woodlands add soo much consisteny!
@18Zeke
@18Zeke 4 ай бұрын
I think Toxic Deluge has really good synergy with Death’s Shadow. If it’s on the battlefield as a 1/1 and you deluge 11 life, the shadow will survive because it becomes a 12/12
@brycejohnson6234
@brycejohnson6234 4 ай бұрын
I didn't realize Primal Prayers only made you pay a single energy for the cast... Oh dear.
@Awesomesausages
@Awesomesausages 4 ай бұрын
20:45 "enters the tapped battlefield." Dang, straight up taps the table.
@latinojackson9694
@latinojackson9694 4 ай бұрын
"Tapped battlefield" yep makes sense
@Skyb0rg
@Skyb0rg 4 ай бұрын
Rampager still wins the game with Primal Prayers even with up to 2 extra energy, since you can play the Rampager in response to the Prayers’ etb trigger.
@hugeheadliang
@hugeheadliang 4 ай бұрын
All players can benefit from Aluren. Primal Prayer is a worse combo enabler but maybe has potential to be played fairly.
@MindLaboratory
@MindLaboratory 4 ай бұрын
25:47 - pretty sure Imskir Iron-Eater ate Bosh
@bobzour
@bobzour 4 ай бұрын
I feel like Seth kinda slept on Gleaming Fleshwarper in the Uncommons. Whenever you cast a colorless spell make a Scion and whenever another colorless creature ETBs, it deals 1 damage each opponent. Mishra's Bauble is now make 1 mana and ping 1. One Ring is effectively 3 mana and ping 1. If affinity played more colorless creatues I think they might want it because each karn-struct you make also comes with a mana and a ping. Matter Reshaper can also put it into play from the death trigger. I think it at least deserves a bit of discussion even if it doesn't 100% fit in current Eldrazi decks.
@RasmusVJS
@RasmusVJS 4 ай бұрын
You know, when your confirmation bias says that any 2-toughness creature must have been made to specifically avoid dying to Bowmasters, it's pretty easy to assume that the set was designed around the card, even though 2-toughness was a very common amount of toughness even before Bowmasters existed.
@TheEvolver311
@TheEvolver311 4 ай бұрын
Right it couldn't be that things that happen to not die to Bowmasters stands out more now because now we are actively looking for things that survive Bowmasters
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 4 ай бұрын
2 toughness on a 1 mana card is unusual Edit: Scryfall lists 184 cards with MV1, toughness 2 or more and power 1 or more (most of these have downsides or are not actually 1 mana, but I admit they are more common that I thought)
@TheEvolver311
@TheEvolver311 4 ай бұрын
@laytonjr6601 in Modern there are 93 cards with 1cmv and 1/2 Stat line and most actually don't have a drawback in fact almost every single one has an upside. Really only Kjeldoran Javelineer and Trusted Advisor actually having a downside. So you are just incorrect and really easily shown to be so.
@cooperburnham2359
@cooperburnham2359 4 ай бұрын
Seth: Has never played Reap and Sow in a single commander deck Also Seth: I WILL PLAY THIS CREATURE WITH THE TEXT OF REAP AND SOW IN EVERY COMMANDER DECK EVER
@moonlight_scribe
@moonlight_scribe 4 ай бұрын
I mean it does also make a body
@snotball4366
@snotball4366 4 ай бұрын
For the whitemane lion combo you mentioned, you wouldn't need essence warden as guide of souls gives you a life every time you play it already.
@sharlockshacolmes9381
@sharlockshacolmes9381 4 ай бұрын
Self mill omniscience with shifting woodlands and dredge cards could be a really good deck
@NathanBullock-w9n
@NathanBullock-w9n 4 ай бұрын
💯💯
@thehatcaseonyoutube
@thehatcaseonyoutube 4 ай бұрын
We're just casting buried alive right?
@jnorthey9
@jnorthey9 4 ай бұрын
As someone whose first deck was the original teferi deck, I love reef worm. That is all
@RyuPlaneswalker
@RyuPlaneswalker 4 ай бұрын
"It's technically colorless cause of Devoid" Crim should have played that Devoid Deck I sent him for Troll week, it would have been the perfect timing.
@colecarmichael5724
@colecarmichael5724 4 ай бұрын
Tolarian academy at home in the basement is bars😂
@Blackflame305
@Blackflame305 4 ай бұрын
Shifting Woodlands is also probably the new best way to get Phage into play
@toms1782
@toms1782 4 ай бұрын
Kozileks command will go great in that new Model deck. A pick two and even at 4 mana you are sure to hit someone’s 2 or less mana exile and then get two more colorless tokens / bodies I dunno I did it for that new commander from Thunder Junction Also it doesn’t say tap, you can sacrifice at instant speed the turn they come out.
@da-wizerd7413
@da-wizerd7413 4 ай бұрын
Seth: "It's not colorless" Sowing Mycospawn: has devoid
@derrickthewhite1
@derrickthewhite1 4 ай бұрын
I saw that and it made me smile. Trick is that in commander, its green.
@wherewolf85
@wherewolf85 4 ай бұрын
Already brewing with primal prayers: 4x Outcaster Trailblazer 4x Primal Prayers 4x Lathnu Hellion 4x Shatterskull Charger 4x Skelemental 4x decoction module 4x breakout 4x Acererak 4x ignoble hierarch 4x Sylvan Safekeeper 3x Wooded Foothills 3x Verdant Catacombs 2x Bloodstained mire 2x Boseiju 1x Blood crypt 2x overgrown tomb 2x stomping ground 2x forest 2x Swamp 1x mountain The idea is you can play module, plot trailblazer and then cast it and go off turn four with prayers. Every creature except hierarch and safekeeper draw you a card. You have 12 haste creatures with four or more power (hellion also gives you two energy to cast more if you dont have module out). Backup kill is acererak+module+prayers for the dungeon combo kill.
@xaxscratchxax926
@xaxscratchxax926 4 ай бұрын
Annihilator is colorless removal! :)
@ElianaMCP
@ElianaMCP 4 ай бұрын
24:43 I'd just staple Irmskir and a few artifact lands into a rakdos burn as a mid-late game draw engine
@guisseppimelon8224
@guisseppimelon8224 4 ай бұрын
Buried alive with woodlands could be a way to ensure woodlands ability can trigger, get three creatures like dryad arbor and an artifact creature and it is automatically online
@domri4203
@domri4203 4 ай бұрын
Or enchantment creature
@kylejohnson4662
@kylejohnson4662 4 ай бұрын
Jeskai Energy seems like fun. Build it around Guide of Souls and Whirler Virtuoso.
@commanderpower99
@commanderpower99 4 ай бұрын
Bulshodok sounds very powerful and like a real Eldrazi. Wotc should hire Seth for coming up with new. names
@jaxsonbateman
@jaxsonbateman 4 ай бұрын
While it definitely doesn't seem like it'd be strong enough for straight modern play, I could see some Against The Odds applications for Kozilek's Command. * It's a card that can generate future mana, with a net cost of 2. Even ignoring potential infinite applications, the fact it's an instant means you could, say, pay 6 for this at end of turn, drop a land then Dopplegang for x=3. * It's an instant, so can have its cost reduced by many cards. Also an eldrazi card, so Eye of Ugin can come into play (though not sure how many formats that's legal in these days). * Alternately basically becomes a ritual with Ashnod's Altar. There might be something janky, Against The Oddsish there. Thaaat said, now that I've typed this out, seems like most of the straightforward stuff you'd pull off with this are just straight up easier with Awaken The Woods, if for nothing else than being able to produce green without needing additional support (as well as them being land creatures allowing stuff like Lotus Cobra to help combo off).
@noahhager1187
@noahhager1187 4 ай бұрын
magecraft is one of my favorite effects and I think ashling may work in arclight
@geeknseek
@geeknseek 4 ай бұрын
I am so excited for all these energy cards!
@TheForeverRanger
@TheForeverRanger 4 ай бұрын
Ashling is going in the 99 for Ojer Axonil simply because you are going to be dealing a lot of damage and this hits for a minimum of 4 every turn.
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see you revisit the trinisphere green ld deck!
@KarmicMishap
@KarmicMishap 4 ай бұрын
That deck was hilarious 🤣
@protoman0027
@protoman0027 4 ай бұрын
Shifting Woodland with necrodominance seems pretty solid.
@RedPandaStan
@RedPandaStan 4 ай бұрын
So excited to make some modern brews once this set comes out! Am I insane or is Hydra trainer not absolutely busted in hardened scales? I get you have to declare it on attacking so you cant just do it in response to no blocks but that's probably enough to get a single creature up to lethal very early still, no? I guess the question is what do you take out
@syctheofsymphogear4290
@syctheofsymphogear4290 4 ай бұрын
Woodlands could also be a Fog in Mill Decks with the old eldrazi titans and the Angel of Suffering
@megauberduber
@megauberduber 4 ай бұрын
Good to see Ashling back, so excited for return to Llorwyn in 2025
@Cesshiphop
@Cesshiphop 4 ай бұрын
Deluge makes Shadow a much better deck. Being able to make it a full upside piece is huge. It’s gonna do a lot for the deck.
@derbohrkopf
@derbohrkopf 4 ай бұрын
I feel like ashling is made more for like a storm deck, where you set up, tap all your mana on sour oppinents end step and storm off on your turn
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
If you cast it in the middle of storming off, it makes 4 mana just a few casts later, for an effective cost of 0. Then, every time you cast a spell, you discard and draw, and it's not an "if you discard, then draw" so with an empty hand you just draw. You're right, that card is made for storm.
@thehatcaseonyoutube
@thehatcaseonyoutube 4 ай бұрын
Ashling notes spells retroactively. So if you say.....manamorphose into pyretic ritual into ashling into lava dart, you make 4 mana. Edit: ignore my poor reading comprehension. I am now sad
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 ай бұрын
No, spells cast before Ashling is on the battlefield don't count, because the ability did not resolve. The only spell Ashling would see in your example is the lava dart, making it the first time the ability has resolved that turn.
@thehatcaseonyoutube
@thehatcaseonyoutube 4 ай бұрын
​@@funkydiscogodI have been bamboozled by my poor reading. I am now sad
@sammielawrence4781
@sammielawrence4781 4 ай бұрын
​@@thehatcaseonyoutube lick your wounds and find yourself blessed to be in a position where you are teachable.
@petersteiman2443
@petersteiman2443 4 ай бұрын
Could Toxic Deluge go into Death’s Shadow?
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 4 ай бұрын
Cant say i ever expected to say this, but i think its time to powercreep armageddon (+exile).
@TheBalogna7
@TheBalogna7 4 ай бұрын
You had me at "Bosh designed for 2024"
@fdrehug7318
@fdrehug7318 4 ай бұрын
Ashling looks like that red dragon scourge that stores red mana
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 4 ай бұрын
So they gave you something that gives you 1 life and an energy when you get a creature, and something that lets you cast a creature for energy instead? That’s not gonna be very very broken or anything.
@coreysierchio4650
@coreysierchio4650 4 ай бұрын
*fixes glasses* Technically, a Thalia on the battlefield makes Toxic Deluge cost 4 mana.
@christopherneil8265
@christopherneil8265 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking, shifting woodlands might be p good in show and tell since one of its key weaknesses is discard.
@onlywei
@onlywei 4 ай бұрын
Sowing Mycospawn reminds me of the old card Reap and Sow.
@AeroSW
@AeroSW 4 ай бұрын
Shifting Woodland turns into Emrakul the Aeons Torn
@hogarthheathan
@hogarthheathan 4 ай бұрын
If only it didn't get shuffled back into library, I guess you can respond to the trigger
@Xoulrath_
@Xoulrath_ 4 ай бұрын
​@@hogarthheathanyeah, you can respond to the trigger. But it also requires having 4 mana, in addition to Woodland. It's not going to happen often. When it does, Emrakul will almost certainly be eaten by a Solitude. 😂
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 4 ай бұрын
We might soon be at the point where marit lage is viable in edh. Give it another card that can make the token and i think we are in business.
@jproductions7469
@jproductions7469 4 ай бұрын
Still gonna run bosh in that Imskir deck
@purpleslushie
@purpleslushie 4 ай бұрын
I love reef worm. I like to make token copies of reef worm and just watch the chaos
@noahhager1187
@noahhager1187 4 ай бұрын
token squirrels seems good with arch
@TheCubicalGuy
@TheCubicalGuy 4 ай бұрын
What concerns me about primal prayers is it doesn't say "energy equal to its mana cost", I think you can cast a 3-drop for one energy.
@kamikazebanzai1005
@kamikazebanzai1005 4 ай бұрын
Yes you can
@giancarlocafaro6734
@giancarlocafaro6734 4 ай бұрын
That’s the point lol
@daanverschaeren7197
@daanverschaeren7197 4 ай бұрын
The best mono red spell slinger deck is my girl, Rionya Fire dancer. The pay off is copying the most busted etb triggers.
@WhammeWhamme
@WhammeWhamme 4 ай бұрын
I don't think it's fair to call a strict upgrade on the best card in a niche a pure Commander release; getting Commander deck cards that won't break Modern into Modern is probably the best thing MHX can do; it gives decks a few more options without rotating the format.
@weeklyweeks7545
@weeklyweeks7545 4 ай бұрын
As someone not entirely familiar with the modern format, is soul sisters the only deck in format?
@andrewfuhrman7806
@andrewfuhrman7806 4 ай бұрын
Toxic deluge might be good in death shadow
@imaginarymatter
@imaginarymatter 4 ай бұрын
I hope they reprint Wasteland and Strip Mine for all these lands.
@heidibenner1577
@heidibenner1577 4 ай бұрын
So. Still no confirmation of Swords to plowshares yet?
@nicholasiverson9784
@nicholasiverson9784 4 ай бұрын
Don't need bowmasters that deals 2 damage, that'd be OP. Just give em Deathtouch >:D
@FacelessLooting
@FacelessLooting 4 ай бұрын
you say "toss in an essence warden and gain infinite life"... isn't guide of souls already doing that making it an infiite life combo with whitemane lion and alur-energy
@dracish123456789
@dracish123456789 4 ай бұрын
koz command exiles a karnstruct and draws you a card. How does it need a lot of mana?
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 4 ай бұрын
How does magectaft work with conspire again? Do you get ashlings first 2 triggers immideately or not?
@nevsterk2463
@nevsterk2463 4 ай бұрын
“It can copy Dark Depths” Seconds later : “It can copy ANY NON land permanent” Dude RTFC.
@gregorycafiero9688
@gregorycafiero9688 4 ай бұрын
Seth is beloved because he is every magic player. He will not pay the 1, he will not learn the correct way to pronounce names, and he will not read the card.
@Graatand
@Graatand 4 ай бұрын
Why would you need Essence Warden when Guide of Souls itself gains life?
@shayneweyker
@shayneweyker 4 ай бұрын
Ashling Burn/Storm with Underworld Breach?
@Brooks0511
@Brooks0511 4 ай бұрын
you don’t need essence warden guide of souls and white main lion is already infinite life
@andrewwhite2123
@andrewwhite2123 4 ай бұрын
Why did Robert Bliss go by Chengo on the Disembowel art?
@SauceVinaigrette
@SauceVinaigrette 4 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me why Seth is better known as saffron olive?
@stephenhousman6975
@stephenhousman6975 4 ай бұрын
Solemn simulacrum shows synthesizer
@Alvin-wx2ep
@Alvin-wx2ep 4 ай бұрын
Will toxic deluge be in standard?
@aaronwindham6065
@aaronwindham6065 4 ай бұрын
I wonder about arch of innovation with tivit in commander. Im not a big fan of how pushed a lot of these cards are, do not get me wrong was I complaining about Commander Masters not having enough hits of course I was, it was very expensive and it didn't come with the the good good. This is too much this is a lot of new cards that are going to be staples that will not be getting reprints for a very long time, these lands are going to sell so high
@jankasmann4042
@jankasmann4042 4 ай бұрын
bosh can sac to itself though! :D
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 4 ай бұрын
Ban Orcish Bowmaster: 😡 Make every 1 mana creature 2 toughness: 🤡
@Mulletdog1
@Mulletdog1 4 ай бұрын
Does Ashlings loot happen every cast, Or just the first?
@RasmusVJS
@RasmusVJS 4 ай бұрын
Based on how the wording differs from Omnath, pretty sure it's every time.
@grasshopper1153
@grasshopper1153 4 ай бұрын
I need a deck like Soul Sisters to play at my LGS to counter a hardcore Boros Burn player. I'm so tired of losing to his Burn deck and not having any good answers. I beat him one time with a Boros Legends deck, but if Souls Sisters was better, my winrate against him would improve.
@winssports4830
@winssports4830 4 ай бұрын
Just run Leyline of Sanctity or Auriok Champion.
@grasshopper1153
@grasshopper1153 4 ай бұрын
@@winssports4830 thanks for the suggestion. The only thing I don't like about Leyline is it means you have to mulligan until it is in your opening hand. I'm not crazy about this playstyle. Auriok is alright, would slot well probably in my Boros Legends deck, so I will try it out. I just would like for Soul Sisters to be a thing. I think it would be cool.
@winssports4830
@winssports4830 4 ай бұрын
@@grasshopper1153 won't disagree with that.
@shawnminer4355
@shawnminer4355 4 ай бұрын
It's pretty bad that you have to change your design Philosophy for an entire set just because of one card instead of banning it
@Klingles
@Klingles 4 ай бұрын
Not going to lie, the vast majority of this set feels sub-standard power level.
@alexandercandicedad1355
@alexandercandicedad1355 3 ай бұрын
Commander Horizons 3
@thevaultwalrus
@thevaultwalrus 4 ай бұрын
WHERES MY TWO MANA STONE RAIN
@matijatrajkovic6496
@matijatrajkovic6496 4 ай бұрын
This set is cracked
@koengro
@koengro 4 ай бұрын
Guide of Souls a Soul Sister? More like a Soul Mister ;)
@Tomovanlaanen
@Tomovanlaanen 4 ай бұрын
And then the deck becomes Soul Siblings
@R.J.Memnohc
@R.J.Memnohc 4 ай бұрын
the brazil episode is generaly unpopular but it is actually my favourite one because it is actually the weirdest one and such a huge troll move and frankly extreemly brave for the last episode of the first season. This is the kind of shit that gets a series cancelled but they got a second season anyway because the show is so good
@Imadictionary
@Imadictionary 4 ай бұрын
what if the modern horizons were the modern horizons we made along the way?
@porkbun2724
@porkbun2724 4 ай бұрын
this is crazy
@cloudmane4159
@cloudmane4159 4 ай бұрын
Ba-silisk. Or is it bas-si-lisk
@brakalanga7667
@brakalanga7667 4 ай бұрын
Shifting Woodland is a ploblematic land that I wouldn't be surprised to see banned in multiple formats. I LOVE the design, but it simply does too many things. Example: turn 1 Kami of Bamboo grooves, put Sunken Citadel on battlefield, cast Flare of Cultivation: creature, enchantment, sorcery in graveyard, 3 lands on battlefield 1 in hand. Turn 2 Faithless Looting, discard Omniscience and the other land, play Woodland: you activate delirium, and with 1 mana FROM WOODLAND ITSELF and 2 from citadel you copy Omniscience, since remember, you have now 4 lands on the battlefield and 3 are still untapped even after casting Faithless Looting. It does too much for a land imo.
@zackestin1368
@zackestin1368 4 ай бұрын
assuming youre talking about timeless here, you just described a literal 6 card hand ignoring needing a payoff for the omniscience to do what show and tell can do without all that awkwardness on the same turn.
@brakalanga7667
@brakalanga7667 4 ай бұрын
​@@zackestin1368 You completely misunderstood the point of my comment. What I described is the ceiling on power of a potential combo among many where the card is involved. Remember, this is a land that enters untapped under the same conditions of Castle Garenbrig, for reference. In timeless, you could open with Dark Ritual into Dark Ritual, into Energy Refractor into Show & Tell and win on turn 1, but nobody does it because even if you combo on turn 4, 5 or later it doesn't really matter. In addition to that, all the cards I've used in the example are perfectly playable on their own, it's not like a combo requiring a leyline which would become otherwise a dead draw later. That said, I really hope to be wrong, because if Woodlands becomes a staple in Timeless/Historic meta playing those formats could easily turn into a very frustrating experience.
@brakalanga7667
@brakalanga7667 4 ай бұрын
Btw, the reason I care so much about this card and I hope it won't be banned/restricted is because I'm attracted by its enormus jank potential. I used Omniscience in the example because I assume that's what the majority of people will try to cheat in play, but personally I can't wait to see if Jadzi will finally become an actual playable card. Especially now that Tamiyo provides the perfect non-aggro 1 drop wizard. Fingers crossed!
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