Modern Horizons 3 Upgrades | EDH Gameplay Ep 52

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[@DeckedOutEDH]

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[@SageShroomer]

amped raptor only makes energy when it's copied. It has to be cast from your hand to get the cascade like effect. 30:59

[@latinojackson9694]

Blatant cheating, I've ever seen it

[@ZeratulMTG]

I was going to do the same comment

[@jjcc8379]

31:00 Amped raptor token copy does indeed give energy, but veggie wouldn't have had an exile-and-cast-for-energy trigger. That second part is only IF CAST FROM HAND

[@godsiresfollower7987]

also he forgot to gain energy at that time from his commander trigger, and with those two energy trigger and the activated one they would be +3/+3 not +2/+2

[@sammytoejr1069]

Correct. Though like him I had made that same mistake once or twice and because of it I have learned too spot that

[@killeryodellingmonkey4192]

35:10 Nerdgirl had a trigger off of Lurgoyf. Weirdly Lurgoyf does NOT care about the types of cards in graveyards but the NUMBER of creatures in all graveyards. Likely would have been much larger

[@xahhfink]

I think they made the same mistake in the unupgraded episode 😮 Makes me excited to do that with the actual precon tho. But yeah, if she had drawn like 15 cards there and discarded a dozen more creatures that might have been the game

[@hello133]

I feel like 6 creatures died that turn at least lol

[@prostar91]

Starting @34:00 mtgnerdgirl needs to read her cards. Pyrogoyf is dmg equal to the entering creature's power, Lhurgoyf power and toughness is equal to the amount of creatures in graveyard, not card types, it may have done more or less damage, and Accursed Marauder says each player, which would include her.

[@somegamer4071]

So when the Vault 112 was cast, he didn't need to say he was going to target ulamog, and if she let the saga resolve she could not counter spell that. because the saga ability is not a spell you can counter.

[@killeryodellingmonkey4192]

correct but typical casual play where you assume your spell will resolve and explain your line before other players get a response.

[@somegamer4071]

@@killeryodellingmonkey4192 I guess, but 100% this wouldn't fly in my pod, I'd not voice my intent to tap the creature until it resolves and refuse to give any information about what the saga is going to tap, they either counter it now or let it resolve.

[@glubgawd7393]

I always say, does this resolve?

[@pokedadsam9041]

As the eldrazi player you politic and say: is this targeting my Ulamog? And see if they want to make a deal. If not you assume it’s targeting your Ulamog, being the scariest thing on the field, and counter it before it resolves.

[@maxbodifee3263]

This was 100% going to target Ulamog anyway so it didn't matter but ok, you are right 😉

[@Lostwithsix]

Nerd girl you should have been shooting people in the face with pyrogoyf rather than their creatures 😭you had the game in the bag

[@niriro5741]

Zbexx should have counterspelled before targets were declared, because the Saga is an etb trigger rather than cast

[@thor82ak]

Yea, I noticed that too.. Seems odd, and then at 42:00 not attacking her with a 20/20 after she exiled half of Airballs deck.

[@classycamel]

there wasnt really any time given for responses before a target was declared. that's fully on veggie

[@aowens40601]

I'm surprised Airball didn't get dark depths out a turn earlier with the search for ten lands thing.Z girl just played the ulamog.

[@yubeluchiha]

If it’s a cast you don’t declare targets because it be on the stack? So basically if it was cast you have to wait for your opponent to Counter spell if not but your opponent’s doesn’t know what your target is

[@gfxmrsaltman]

36:53 I dont think thats the craziest misplay of the game but NerdGirl should have sacrificed a create aswell, due to the Marauder saying that "each player" has to sacrifice a create 😅

[@threecorners52802]

She could have sacrificed the Pyro and immediately brought it back

[@Notharah]

Came here to check if someone else caught that. She says "each player" when reading it out, but then mistakenly says "each opponent sacrifices a non-token." It would be a downright busted card it it was asymmetrical 😅

[@gfxmrsaltman]

@@Notharah That is why "Sheoldred's Edict" is so good 😁

[@dcijluther4015]

Sacrificing one more of her creature would be better for her.

[@starkiller182]

At the same time she just put the milled creatures on the battlefield, but disas ability is a trigger, they first go to the graveyard, which would have triggerd dreadhound 3 times.

[@JapLomm]

You gotta love how stoic Airball is

[@voidprism_studios666]

Really enjoyed seeing maskwood nexus and Disa pop off!

[@pokedadsam9041]

Wotc Not including Tarmogoyf was very odd. Hes not expensive anymore and feels like such an easy include for the deck.

[@thricewise1254]

It sucks in the deck. You're already making tarmagoyf everytime you attack. It would be a waste of a spot. What they actually needed to do was just make more new goyfs for the deck.

[@pokedadsam9041]

@@thricewise1254 he would be an early creature and sac to many of the effects in the deck. Also a great card to have In the Bin for coram without having to give up a better goyf. He wouldn’t be amazing but he would be one of the better goyfs in the deck.

[@draftmagicagain1000]

Tarmogoyf used to be arguably the best creature in the game. Now he’s “not needed in the deck”. What is going on 😅

[@thricewise1254]

​@@draftmagicagain1000 beacuse if instead of adding a tarmagoyf, you can add an evasive one drop that gets through and makes a tarmagoyf every single turn

[@pokedadsam9041]

@@thricewise1254 I have added the tarmogyf and can confirm he still slaps. You really want a critical density of goyfs and each one is a real threat with pyrogoyf. He could easily be a cursed mirror though to copy pyro.

[@Zimmyt11]

Airball just looks like dad when his toddlers are acting out at Chuck E Cheese. Get. Off. His. Lawn.

[@Beckola44]

Congrats ZBexx, well played! I was surprised when Veggie took out Nerd Girl and AirBall. I thought that Nerd Girl and AirBall were big threats. That long turn by Nerd Girl was INSANE! I really enjoyed watching this game. Thank you Nerd Girl, ZBexx, AirBall, and Veggie Wagon for the video.

[@jeffwong2002]

airball is not naked as i would notice if it were true

[@blaze376192]

What app do you use for keeping track of your life counter/commander damage?

[@DeckedOutEDH]

Life tap

[@cokebottlepopper23]

Veggie has been forgetting to gain life when he attacks with satya

[@howardjones1388]

When airball sac'd thespian stage while it was Dark Depth, he should have brought it back in because it was a desert and desert warfare saw it get sac'd. Also Veggie probably should have left airball alive. Since Zbexx was adamant on decking Airball out.

[@sleepingthroughthewar]

im curious why airball didnt pull out dark depths and thespians stage when he pulled the 10 lands. it would have been a 20/20 flying,indestructible next turn.

[@anstapa6118]

It's great to see the channel taking off so much lately! Keep it up!

[@DeckedOutEDH]

Thank you! We are so happy the community seems to like the show. :)

[@atomic_et]

I think nerdgirl missed some dread hound triggers when her lurghoyfs hit the gy before being returned due to disa

[@zyketan2631]

the shenenigans that happen from 32:56 is just pure gas. Jund doing jund things.

[@MindlnSky]

Been a while since I've seen Zbeex so I'm happy to see her for two chapters, specially on these great decks I've a question for Veggie, how good did the deck feel with the fallout energy deck? I'm trying to make the fusion of the two and would love comments on it

[@pokedadsam9041]

41:07 think the Dryad Arbor tokens were missed. Those are land creatures for Jyoti.

[@davidvanooteghem673]

Zbexx victory dance was the best thing on the internet today. Epic game.

[@ItWatchesWithoutEyes]

6:44 I now need to see a Bespoke VeggieWagon proxy of Bespoke BattleWagon

[@nickjordan3269]

25:50 - Oof. Veggie naming Ulamog as the target for the first chapter of Vault 112 means that it resolved, meaning Zbexx would not have been able to counter it with NEB. She would not have had the information before she had the opportunity to do so and only played the counter because it was targeting her permanent.

[@jameelkurabi]

Yeah came here to say this.

[@thor82ak]

Yea, I mean if they're going to be posting these videos, they should be playing the game correctly. All of them have played enough to know the difference between cast trigger, ETB triggers, and priority.

[@maxbodifee3263]

And it wouldn't have mattered. It is just a video of card game guys. Not the elections 😅

[@GriffinAmongOceans]

​@@maxbodifee3263agreed. People take this too seriously lol

[@nickjordan3269]

@@maxbodifee3263 This is such a bad take, man. I'm not indicting them, I'm pointing out proper sequencing in line with the game's rules. I would hate to play MTG with someone who has such a low opinion of the actual rules.

[@chrissteedley]

What is the app they are using to track life and commander damage

[@yubeluchiha]

I highly recommend lifetap app it has a D20 Dice picture it everything you need for commander pods

[@theconspiracy124578]

It’s called lifetap

[@phoenix1286]

where do you get those large mtg cards in the background??

[@DeckedOutEDH]

They are prizes from large events.

[@javiercascante5929]

Airball’s reactions to Zbexx always cracks me 😂

[@Just_EdHarris]

Anyone else notice that the background music is the outro music for elder dragon hijinks?

[@patrickaquilina4374]

The goblin energy ZBexx brings is hilarious. Love it when she appears.

[@anthonygilmore5424]

The blooper with all the anime, and what I believe is a Power Rangers Zeo, references was fantastic. Airball bringing up Medabots made me happy that others remember that show.

[@patrickweiss5063]

maybe i'm missing something, but doesn't planar nexus turn on tron by itself because it is all 3 so if you have it plus 1 tron piece it is active regardless of everything counters.

[@yubeluchiha]

I didn’t know a ETB trigger you don’t have to pick a target when you play because it’s not a spell cast like a Instant or sorcery so basically your opponent doesn’t know if they are going to counter spell it or not because they don’t know your targets

[@sammytoejr1069]

31:00 the rapter is a cast trigger not an etb trigger copying it doesn't trigger the 2nd part of the card.

[@CodenameJD]

Am I missing an injoke that explains why Veggie pronounces aether like that? 😵‍💫

[@Finapple]

Came to the comments to ask the same thing

[@jamesmoore1476]

I'm a backer from when you guys originally advertised the kickstarter, paused the video and went to back right away. I'm picking up 5 playmats and am super excited for them!

[@DeckedOutEDH]

Thank you for supporting the sponsor of the show. NerdGirl is thinking of getting a table mat for the show. lol

[@jamesmoore1476]

@@DeckedOutEDH I was super tempted by the full table mat but I couldn't leave it rolled out because I have cats so smaller mats it is. Even got a friend the D&D mat because he's a big Drizzt(sp?) and AFR fan and that art, like all the rest, is fantastic!

[@Pixel_Minion666]

why didn't veggie tap bespoke battlewagon for energy within the first turn cycle he cast it?

[@theconspiracy124578]

He did on the very end of airballs turn

[@martaaletpuig8151]

At 31:00 does the trigger of the raptor still happen even though it was not cast from hand?

[@Themadwollf]

It does not, as it specifies to do that only when cast from hand.

[@2livesleft]

why was dark depths sacrificed? The rule is you pick which one to sac and which to keep: 704.5j If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are controlled by the same player, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.”

[@FrostSylph]

as others have said, the Null elemental blast shouldn't have been able to target the vault saga, as target would only be chosen after it resolved due to it being a saga ability.

[@fablerh2476]

I don’t really understand why the eldrazi deck doesn’t seem to be seen as a risk for so long. Not concentrating on Zbexx was fatal in the end.. but that’s easy to say watching from afar. It’s just.. I see those colorless decks all the time and they win almost every time, because Eldrazi titans seem to be strong ;)

[@fredthered98]

I really like those eldrazi tokens where can one buy those or are they custom creations?

[@DeckedOutEDH]

There is a link to the artist we get our tokens from in the description.

[@marciusnoyes6637]

I must be dumb i cant find the link. Could you?

[@MrSnifflez]

@@marciusnoyes6637 nope i can't find it either lol

[@subsoniclight]

Does an everything counter make lands urza's tower etc, or does it just make them also "Urza's"? Edit: also, everything counters do nothing unless the commander is actually in play, yes?

[@speedingstorm6074]

It makes them urzas everything so you can take your urza lands for there greater mana taps right away, but it doesn't give your everything land's the ability to tap for greater mana if that's what you were wondering. Yeah everything counters need that commander out to do anything at all

[@subsoniclight]

@@speedingstorm6074 Yup that answered my question!

[@wadewilson5712]

should have saved Thespian Stage and combo it with Dark Depths , it would have become a copy minus the counters needed to be removed

[@user-uo9sg7se3g]

He could still do it,stage keeps it's copy ability

[@theconspiracy124578]

Did you finish the video? 😂

[@chummer2060]

great game, as usual!

[@PhantomFate]

This guy searches his library for an urza's Tower instead of cloudpost dang ok

[@paulmackenan6043]

5:35 doesn't Lotus come in tapped? Why did it untap? Am I missing something?

[@jamesmoore1476]

He played it with growth spiral at the end of Zbexx's turn so he would untap with it.

[@paulmackenan6043]

@@jamesmoore1476 cool. That's a smart play. But ZBexx says at 5:13 that she passes her turn and then Airball played his instant. So he messed up right? He should've done it before? I kind of new to the game so I'm trying to wrap my head around it. Sorry if it's a lot of text

[@jamesmoore1476]

@@paulmackenan6043 They're editing out some lesser details I think, but its common in casual commander for a player to end their turn and the next player to say, oh, in your end step I do x. In-person seems to be way more lax than if you watch Magic The Gathering Online gameplay. If you watch that you'll see all the times that priority is passed and how...tedious...it can be. Veggie made a mistake with this kind of short-cutting gameplay when he played that saga, when he cast it ZBexx would need to counter it before it entered the battlefield and he chose a target but he didn't ask for responses and told the table his target.

[@paulmackenan6043]

@@jamesmoore1476 thanks for the reply! I now see that they play pretty casually. It seems more fun that way

[@MrZer093]

@@paulmackenan6043Also legally, you always have to allow your opponent a chance to respond. So what really happened was Veggie gave out more info than he needed to and it caused his spell to be countered as retaliation.

[@noahsanchez9985]

First time watching a video from your channel. Definitely enjoyed it. ZBexx has great energy but on the complete opposite end of the spectrum you have Airball. I’d have a huge smile from her silliness, then it’s pan over to him and he’s just sitting there looking at her emotionless. It’s a trip. 😅

[@jaygallaugher4318]

Thanks for a fun video but also BIG thanks for letting me know I have another chance at those playmats, I had some financial stuff come up during the original campaign and thought I lost the chance at getting one (at a reasonable price) for ever

[@chiefsymeris]

Zbexx good vibes are infectious

[@DeckedOutEDH]

They really are.

[@jamesmoore1476]

slough is pronounced like slew, airball got it right.

[@markbrierley6367]

But only as a noun is it pronounced that way. As a verb it's "sluff", which is a more widely used word which is why people get it wrong all the time. Isn't English great!?

[@taylorjohnson5148]

That pyrogoyf mask wood nexus self mill turn is the kinda crap that makes magic fun. Great turn

[@zoddsmetal]

Lotus field has hexproof, can it be copied?

[@skate14eras]

You’re thinking of shroud

[@logan-870]

you can target your own things that have hexproof, other people cant. shroud prevents you from targeting even your own things

[@EpicDinosaur862]

Day 30 of asking to see Mauldhound play a mono green elf-snowball deck.

[@tsorf98]

@11:54 when you copy the spell. You aren’t casting the copy so you don’t get the cast trigger from the copy. You just put the copy on the stack and don’t cast it

[@jamiep8002]

Ulalek also copies the ability itself, since it's on the stack when his "copy all spells, then copy all triggered/active abilities" effect goes off.

[@soopthedog7236]

Nerd girl should of sacked something due to accursed marauder

[@MadWhiteNerd]

VEGGIE Your raptor tokens don't get you cards because you have to cast it from your hand!!

[@KidAlphaMax]

These decks are so fun to watch together!

[@PhantomFate]

31:18 veggie created a copy of amped raptor used its ability even though it was only on cast

[@Masty13]

37:31 shoudn’t you get lhurgoyf back after sacrificing it due to disa?

[@DeckedOutEDH]

Disa says from anywhere other than the battlefield

[@Hidden5box]

When she sacked the golf UT comes back right so she basically had infinite shots

[@donaldbennett5016]

What are the tokens that they use. Would love to know where they get them.

[@DeckedOutEDH]

You can find a link the description.

[@donaldbennett5016]

Maybe I'm blind but I am unable to find the link for the tokens. Not the deck list but the cute tokens.

[@jeffreysmall1087]

Good game guys I was Rooting for Nerd girl.

[@LoneSkag]

Why are we leaving exterminator magnarch in the goyf deck? There are 2ish payoffs.

[@KidsJavo2088]

I have a doubt, the everything counter doesn't say in any part as far as I can see that Omo need to stay on the battlefield to work, why Airball expressed like is necessary?

[@Cancer_Cam]

The everything counters are just that, counters. Omo adds the effect to the counters, hence why she must be on the field for the counters to do anything.

[@KidsJavo2088]

@@Cancer_Cam oooo got it! Thanks

[@swdiscordmethod5996]

At 13:00 he would not have been able to cast the Oblivion Stone. The urzas tower would have come in tapped with the archdruids charm , so the board wipe would not have happened

[@wallsmt7573]

It came in at the end step of the last turn so it untaps on his turn.

[@emporiumofcuriosity]

Ulalek! Ulalek! Ulalek!

[@kingofbudokai]

I don't think I will ever be able to call it "Mana Value." I know they changed it a while back, but it's forever stuck in my brain as "CMC" (aka "Converted Mana Cost" for any new players not in the know.) I still don't know why they bothered changing it. The old terminology was just as intuitive as the new one is. Maybe to save printing costs since "mana value" is fewer letters than "converted mana cost"? That's the only rational I can think of that makes sense. Although considering how few cards actually reference that mechanic I can't see how that could possibly matter in terms of financial well being of the company, so it still seems arbitrary and dumb if you ask me.

[@ConwayTimmons-yu9ce]

@10:18 did he draw a card ???

[@yebelisathing]

I thought that the victory was gonna caused by an Emrakul or an All is Dust, but that instant was beautiful.

[@RainbowMarc]

Finally a game with Ulalek where Ulalek got some play time :)

[@alecxisgarcia1990]

I saw that you everything @airball 10:16

[@itsanother8623]

🤣🤣

[@PROM3TH3US1991]

first time seeing the ulalek deck. And out of the box The eldrazi deck is the weakest of the bunch.....But that Goyf deck is UNREAL. I have watched many different people play that deck and pyrogoyf just pops off and does so much. Super hard to deal with.

[@Kienineso]

Can anyone tell me where I can get those Tokens?

[@DeckedOutEDH]

Yes! The description of the video. :)

[@BenjaminKlahn]

Ferris Bueller did the Dark Depths combo wrong.

[@atomic_et]

How so?

[@BenjaminKlahn]

@@atomic_et If you sacrifice the copy to the legend rule then you're not sacrificing it to the trigger which creates merit lodge. Both lands need to go to the graveyard for the combo to work. The first time during state-based actions you choose to sacrifice the one with the counters on it then the copy has its ability trigger because it has no counters on it and you sacrifice it to make the token.

[@atomic_et]

@@BenjaminKlahnmy interpretation was that he copied with stage, erroneously sacrificed the stage to the no counters trigger for the token, before legend rule, and then remembered and correctly sacs the original to state based, so that the copy can resolve the depths trigger. So while he physically handled the triggers out of chronological order, within the casual setting of commander, he did handle the game triggers in the correct way, both lands went to the gy and he paid for the activation during his priority, so I personally don’t think he did the combo wrong

[@DarthChewdup]

ZBEXX ELDRAZI!! im excited :)

[@todddonaldson885]

Love you guys, Platonically of course, but just the same love you guys!

[@Snadon73]

Those tokens... WHERE do you get those tokens?!

[@DeckedOutEDH]

There is a link in the description. :)

[@Snadon73]

The TOA magic site?

[@DeckedOutEDH]

Our Tokens from CatsAndCantrips

[@Behmtastic]

Wouldn't the saga veggie played already have resolved by the time the first chapter trigger happened and he was picking his target? It should have been countered before he declared any creature if someone wanted to counter it. The way I see this interaction, there was one of two potential misplays. The first would be that veggie didnt give anyone time to respond to him casting it, and the second being Zbexx countering it only after she realized the triggered ability was coming at one of her permanents, making it a cheating move to counter at that time.

[@thor82ak]

Yep, should have been.. But like you said, he may not have given enough time to react. She could have used it to destroy the enchantment, but it would have still tapped her Mog.

[@DeckedOutEDH]

Yes. After reading the card veggie followed up with a target without letting anyone respond. At no point did the table agree the spell was going to resolve. Also ending and make some of these interactions rough. Some is edited out to keep the game snapy

[@Sdizzle7]

Scapeshift is cheese in omo.

[@maxbodifee3263]

Airball was not impressed by ZBexx win 🙃 Next time gang up on the Eldrazi player first cause this is what Eldrazi do

[@Zenith8924]

nulldrifter is Null and Devoid* :P

[@BrianRockMedia]

3:23 On hillside trails, slough (pronounced "sluff") is soil, rock, and debris that has moved downhill to the inside of the tread, narrowing it.

[@SuperAmaton]

Man, poor Veggie, I was rooting for him

[@markbrierley6367]

This would have been a very different game if everyone had read their cards.

[@donutunknown5559]

ZBrexx is hilarious

[@kfunky209]

I dunno if someone lost on this channel from getting decked out, but that should be a thing

[@deadlysock5875]

Noticing a lot of missed triggers and misplays

[@Mad.Edd.702]

Omg can't wait to watch this

[@zionkut808]

I would love to tak MTG Nerd out on a magic date 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

[@longdangley]

ob stone just needs to be removed imo lol

[@jasperhub8168]

❤❤❤

[@DeckedOutEDH]

[@somegamer4071]

Veggie got robbed this game

[@philippundso2975]

to be honest i have not really gotten ulalek yet. i thought it would also copy the spell so basically a second nulldrifter including the abilities

[@philippundso2975]

Also another one. When a creature has an everything counter does it also count as land creature?

[@Dieonceperday]

@@philippundso2975 No for the everything counter, everything counters make creatures all creature types, and land isn't a creature type, but yes, absolutely correct about Ulalek, it copies all spells (copying the nulldrifter here), activated and triggered (copying the nulldrifter's ability here) abilities you have on the stack. Pretty gross card.

[@TheMich86]

Aren't energy counters put on an emblem, which can't be targeted ???? Now I'm confused.

[@TheMich86]

reading the card explains the card, didn't see the 'opponent' part on Mutated Cultist. Awkward....

[@sladeblaylock8303]

Zbexx is so funny

[@Deathfang4]

LFG!!! Back with the autism zone love yall great episode