Modern Spy Trickstabbing Tutorial

There are some beginner baiting concepts I didn't mention, they're mentioned in the tutorials of the two youtube channel's below:
StabbyStabby - / @stabbyvideo
Slurgi - / @tf2slurgi
You can use this tutorial to analyse spy trickstab clips of any time period (you have to watch slurgi's and stabbystabby's old tutorials for some skipped baiting theory) and understand how they achieved it, even if the player himself didnt how he got the stab either.
My discord server: / discord
Zayn's discord server: / discord

[@hoonterofhoonters6588]

I can feel the depression in his voice only five seconds deep. This must be a powerful spy.

[@Idkkkkkkk23]

L comment

[@veksutin5563]

i have something crazy to tell you, some people sound different than others.

[@Suddsy11037]

@@veksutin5563 guys its a joke calm down

[@PolypheusX]

@@Suddsy11037 don't mess with them spymains. Once you notice the heavy breathing and dorito crust smell. It's already too late! They've teleported behind you and BOOM ur trickstabbed -Spy player who can take a joke (-:

[@lieuty]

111 likes, my god. Btw no im not depressed or have any mental illness, it's the voice I have when explaining things

[@regi5436]

you can hear the 5000 hours spy main in his voice alone

[@VickMcbread]

'move according to their attack interval' is a beautiful way of putting it

[@ME0WMERE]

A lot of this also applies with CRD's theory, but you also gave some useful information here that isn't mentioned in his videos (like headfaking). Great job!

[@SAWWYYY]

i tried this irl and it went the wrong way

[@sosotik]

>london

[@AdoptedPoo]

u have to pivot on one foot if they r chasing u the will run past u and u back stab

[@SIurgi]

Good stuff, really well put together, baiting and target switching is something old tutorials haven't covered at all so its great to finally have something that newer spies can learn it from.

[@misterdumper8190]

I love getting the info from multiple spy tutorials and learning new stuff about the movement you can do

[@_the_spy_8867]

Damn, i thought its going to be some Mr.Paladin's Trickstab Tutorial and how i was wrong... I like it a lot, since you actually show us HOW to practice the movement and what we should take into consideration when going for it. It's definitely not for beginners, but as a guy with Trickstab mindset(i know Lots about hitboxes and types of stabs, but never able to get the situation for such stabs or die early), I've enjoyed it.

[@goosekite2352]

Great video, thanks for sharing! Learnt a lot

[@skelorbonor]

"backstabbing theory" spy pubbers are something else

[@demoman5864]

its a science (we dont get any game)

[@fluffyking6775]

Amazing video. Exactly what I needed for the longest time

[@realknight170]

this takes me back to the crd days. eager to watch your next vid 🙏🏼

[@lieuty]

tnx (:

[@realitysucks6900]

you earned my sub, such an interesting video.

[@butlazgazempropan-butan11k87]

The amount of facestabs in thoose clips is crazy

[@TheoreticalSpy]

Very informative video that ties pretty hard to the game sense part of spy that is built on game sense and experimentation through working out the rhythm. one thing i did like to add is the unsynced section is another way to create much more actual tricks to ur opponent due to the fact that most flow state rhythmic patterns in movement has to have a element of surprise and desyncing your own rhythm tricks the actual opponent with higher level game sense.

[@lieuty]

ye, im planning on making a part 2 of this video covering when you should go off beat for the rhythm and more, one part of this video i talked about how you have to make the second last strafe longer than usual if someone has high reaction rhythm, this is because the enemy is underflicking when trying to track you after you switched your strafe, if you make a longer strafe to the side you force them to overflick you, but you have to skip a beat in the rhythm for that

[@lieuty]

another big aspect of rhythm i didn't mention is that you want to move at a rhythm because you want to be predictable, when you want to predict your enemy as a spy you have to be predictable yourself before you do the unpredictable, if your movement is unpredictable even to yourself, the actions of the enemy are going to be unpredictable to you aswell

[@TheoreticalSpy]

​@lieuty another big factor I found is strafes force the rhythms of their angle switches in most cases to the stab. Developmenting the switch between an unsync and synced patterns of movements is how I came to understand how stabs are done ad well. Probably one thing to cover as well is playing with distances considering the lower to short ranges can trip up the opponents if done in unique ways as listed before with syncing the rhythm.

[@dr.infernous9342]

I did the shuffle strat on degroot keep because I saw another spy doing it (not knowing its effects) and got noticably more matadors than before

[@yukkuririm1060]

The details of all skills are explained very clearly!

[@nightcoreperson9972]

I love these types of videos

[@tf2juice]

Didn't expect you to transform intuition spy to crd, ngl probably the best way to explain some things. However it didn't cover everything in this particular subject I would say, particularly I think covering tracking in this specific tutorial is important.

[@lieuty]

@@tf2juice i didnt cover underflicking and players not moving their mouse to you on rhythm, thatll be in a section of a future vid probably

[@tf2juice]

@@lieuty 💯

[@commenterthe3rd]

I can feel the pain of the players in those clips

[@sarijus3310]

Great stuff!

[@thecosmiclizard21]

i would like to see a more detailed video about this, really good video

[@smellmansam]

Great video :)

[@qhite3808]

this video might be enough to get me back to play this game again. maybe

[@TrueStuffMaker]

Nice tutorial, now I can sap the enemy sentry nests.

[@fishysz]

thanks lieuty! this helped alot :D

[@lieuty]

np (:

[@_r3fresh_209]

amazing as always ;DDD

[@lieuty]

Might or might not make a video in the future reviewing your clips using this theory, send the clips to [e-mail] and title it SPY THEORY, add CRD if it's a crd clip, CHAIN if it's a chain (4+ people) TRIPLE if it's three people you trickstabbed, DOUBLE if it's two people you trickstabbed, SINGLE if it's one person you trickstabbed, if you trickstabbed no one then you add FAIL to it, lets say you you get three people (not happening) and you're a circlestrafer or trying to learn it (don't) then you make the title SPY THEORY CRD TRIPLE, if you fail a trickstab then you make the title SPY THEORY FAIL if you trickstab 5 people and you're not a crd spy, then you add SPY THEORY CHAIN and so on. EDIT: i wont review clips from cheaters

[@catcloudbox724]

rip thwoc 🙏

[@davinbess1865]

really good in depth video about player movement

[@aquelehiro]

Finally a trickstab tutorial that covers the technical parts i wanted

[@lieuty]

part 2 is in the works

[@syntaxes3]

pretty didactic. nice, enjoyed it, buddy.

[@lieuty]

glad you enjoyed it lil' guy, hopefully you learned alot for today :DDD

[@gamertf2]

great guide

[@darkknightdawn6107]

Dude if I had this when I was learning spy 1 year ago would have helped me a lot but I thought my self to learn how to do these but would have been very helpful now I have 400 hour on spy

[@lotejes1112]

1:50 OMG that was insane.

[@ammi5311]

Can appreciate the AAA naming, improved from crd 1234 which might seems like hinting a progressive liner direction . But this is arguably the same thing but tighter if not inspired by his academic way of teaching anyway .

[@ammi5311]

Will review again hopefully some input(comment) if i may

[@lieuty]

part 2 is in the works, ill be covering those movement patterns more in depth, all the movement patterns except async are based on the enemy tracking you while holding one of their movement keys, if the enemy hold w while tracking you, they're going after you, if the enemy holds s while tracking they're going away from you, if the enemy is not moving and youre holding one of the strafe keys, then you always go around them, if the enemy is strafing in one direction, then if you strafe in the same direction while tracking them then you're going along (for the most part), if you're strafing in the opposite direction when tracking them then you're always strafing around the enemy. There will be more things in the tutorial than this tho

[@lieuty]

so at this point my theory is starting to really branch off from crd's basic levels in this respect although it was very loosely based off it to a certain extent

[@Machivode]

Dude deadmau5ses bleed on this is crazy so nostalgic for that song

[@Machivode]

SNOWCONE TOO are you litterally me

[@lieuty]

gives off good vibes and i used a deadmau5 song for spy clips 2 on my channel :DDD

[@snoodles6672]

rewatching 39 times

[@SnakeandKnives]

10:53 is the best summary of this video

[@Pickleknotts]

LOL

[@TF2SlyGuySaysHi]

Lol

[@whohyno]

babe wake up lieuty posted

[@b_mbyz]

a different perspective is always worth something edit: also i think show8ng enemies pov when getting stabbed is a good way to illustrate the points in this video :]

[@lieuty]

i dont have any enemy pov's so i didnt do it, i have the matador pov video for that

[@hurtheworld]

Thats what we need, a modern trickstabbing video, really good lieuty

[@Suddsy11037]

i can see the major crd inspiration haha. i was expecting this to see lot of issues here and there but this is actually a very well put together way of thinking about stabs, its less in depth as crd circle strafing ofc but honestly for a beginner spy i would rather give this just due to the comprehensiveness and general applicability rather than crds system. this is really good stuff, keep it up man

[@lieuty]

the only inspiration i got was the base movement patterns that i distilled from his system and a distilled version of his level checking method, other than that i came up with most of my theories

[@Suddsy11037]

@@lieuty yeah i was mostly talking about the movement patters. but its good i like it. i think its a very good distillation of the levels. though i think crds system is more about understanding it on a deep more fundamental level.

[@Suddsy11037]

@@lieuty also your section on bait is really unique and not in crd and i think its one of the main fundamentals of trickstabbing that crd kind of neglected. like yes you can just learn through intuition and practice but i think its still well worth going over as you have.

[@lieuty]

@@Suddsy11037 ill be expanding on the movement patterns in a part 2 and the motivations behind why enemies move that way with my own theory.

[@Suddsy11037]

@@lieuty nice looking forward too it. btw how many hours do you have on spy?

[@dale6947]

Least depressed-sounding spy main.

[@puzzlepuddles6712]

i try to bodyblock them since i know spies are faster than default characters

[@serosteem]

I'm a circlestrafing main. The video is clearly not for me, yet some of the techniques and concepts explained here seem useful. I think it complements circlestrafing nicely by allowing you to train adaptability.

[@lieuty]

you can do as you wish with the tutorial, if circlestrafers use the rhythm and bait section of the video and adapt it to their theory then the better

[@coldiceEVO]

springer publish this guy

[@adomax373]

A10 video ❤

[@breadsman]

slurgi 2.0

[@extome]

1:02 which movement pattern is the one where they are looking at you and are in front of you but you backstab them anyway

[@lieuty]

he was going after and away from me, he was going after me when i stabbed him and moved and stabbed according to his attack rhythm. I explain a different video why you see something as a facestab as spy

[@Finnix-Does]

If you wouldn’t mind answering, I was wondering why you swing your mouse back and forth when approaching an enemy? Is it to make them think you’re facing a different direction to fool them even further or is it out of habit. I’ve seen other skilled spies do it but they never quote about it. Thanks in advance.

[@lieuty]

back an off in a 180 is to make them go after you, if im doing it while having them on my screen still that's a head and thats too make them look in that direction usually

[@Finnix-Does]

@@lieutyThank you! I do appreciate the reply. I’ll try to keep it in mind for the upcoming future!

[@alfaone_tf]

Hey insanely good video. What hud are you using? (The blue health one with the player speed at the bottom) if its custom i beg you to upload it to gdrive 🤷‍♂️

[@lieuty]

drive.google.com/drive/folders/14Nl_GTUkEkimEvsDh1pGmw9oJKC81Ymr?usp=drive_link

[@alfaone_tf]

@@lieuty awesome. Thanks

[@f1dest75]

W mans

[@coolpans7417]

W vid!!

[@Man_604]

i have a question why do i go in front of heavies shooting while i am at full hp, i touch his minigun and just instantly die? am i going too close or is it normal?

[@lieuty]

@@Man_604 you arent moving to rhythm, so you give the enemy alot of time with you on their crosshair

[@cristianaaguirre]

el movimiento es un canal

[@GREGFRAGS]

u must talk about the players that you can jump into and then they turn around like youre going to appear behind them somehow . . .

[@lieuty]

ye i forgot to mention that jumping makes them believe your movement more

[@GREGFRAGS]

@@lieuty this is a really good modern replacement to crds series goodjob

[@lieuty]

​@@GREGFRAGSthe less time they waste on crd the better

[@Big_Eye_Guy]

What is gregfrags doing here xd

[@GREGFRAGS]

@@Big_Eye_Guy i am ze spy

[@mite5476]

what hud u using that's displaying ur movements speed?

[@zefan1682]

thoughts on the aiming aspect & crosshair placement of trickstabbing?

[@lieuty]

i've already covered it in my backstab hitbox vid, learn those things and you wont think of crosshair placement and aiming when trickstabbing unless you're doing headfakes and 180s. Although i plan on making a video on the ambassador in the future (not soon).

[@zefan1682]

@@lieuty I notice a lot of good spies are really good at tracking their target when chaining/trickstabbing. You are right tho, most of them are probably not actively thinking about their aim when doing it. Good video btw.

[@lieuty]

@@zefan1682 if you're playing spy mge, then you're underflicking the spy until they get off your screen too much so then you overflick, but in a pub you dont really do this type of thing unless you encounter a spy

[@MrM30w]

cool video, do you want to do some 1v1s

[@reazxd818]

Lieuty can you help me with my lerp, its stuck at 30.3 as spy only when i play other classes its normal but when i switch to spy it bugs and gets stuck to 30.3 can you help me?

[@lieuty]

make sure you have all your config files in an "overrides" folder in your cfg folder so mastercomfig would implement those configs instead

[@reazxd818]

@@lieuty thanks man your config plus fixing the files really helped me :D

[@butlazgazempropan-butan11k87]

How to trickstab: hold W and m1

[@tfolz1351]

When was the last spy theory posted?

[@lieuty]

the main ones are the culruldud theory and slurgi's vids, the culruldud vids i found convoluted but i took some small nuggets of information from it

[@karma_yt2074]

how did u get ur custom knife??

[@slurgi]

circlestrafing will never recover from this

[@ToM-ee2ln]

Even though the video has good production (unlike crds), it makes generalizations and i feel it focuses too much on uninmportant things. Nonetheless seeing new content on the spy community is great for new people to get inspired, great job.

[@ToM-ee2ln]

Also crds tutorials are all about stabbing strafing players. This tutorial is all about matadors even though some concepts can be extrapolated to strafing opponents and there are some good lvl4 stabs in here

[@lieuty]

the levels and level checking method i repurposed into my system and broke them down to smaller pieces so its more intuitive and fits my system, i dont recommend crd because i havent found anything useful beyond the things ive mentioned in the video, but people are free to watch it, i just dont recommend it

[@kuzyera]

the whole talk about rhythm and baiting is very useful, if thats what you were talking about when you said "unimportant things"

[@MOOtf2]

@@ToM-ee2lnThat’s the flaw with CRD’s theory. You can “matador” strafing players because they always have to move their mouse to aim at you or adjust their strafing. By timing your movement to their rhythm and utilizing effective baits and headfakes, you can either intercept their strafe or close the distance to force their adjustments to be more drastic which opens them up to matador like stabs. In other cases, you’re doing headfakes and baiting to set up a backpedal stab of some sort. There’s only one movement pattern that’s not accounted for, which is players who literally don’t move their mouse at all and try to lock you into a deadlocked strafe. But we have the deadlock stab for that reason.

[@excxssive]

what are the benefits of having lower interp compared to the default?

[@lieuty]

so you see closer to how the game server sees the game

[@excxssive]

@@lieuty i see, last question does interp settings work on autoexec even with mastercomfig?

[@lieuty]

@@excxssive you need to make an "overrides" folder in your cfg folder, you put your autoexec in the overrides folder and it will override mastercomfig

[@excxssive]

⁠thank you so much! banger video by the way, some of the stuff was hard for a smooth brain amateur like me but this helped a lot :)

[@lieuty]

@@excxssive youre welcome (:

[@jensvanhees3631]

Yoooo Im the 1k subscriber

[@lieuty]

tnx man :DDD

[@MOOtf2]

The emphasis on baiting/headturns and player rhythms is what really separates and elevates modern trickstabbing from the circle strafe theory of CRD. I think this commentary turned out quite well as a summary of these ideas.

[@SnakeandKnives]

Baiting isn't exclusive to just matadors? People bait with their guns as well. In general that skill isn't related to stabbing theory at all

[@epicgamer5122]

how the fuck do i get that sick ass css knife?

[@TF2SlyGuySaysHi]

I don't agree that this is how player movement works, and think that this may be confusing and detrimental to new players. HOWEVER you do have my respect for being passionate about learning movement! This doesn't cover the best players you might encounter and I think that many of the concepts you propose exist and have other names; like head faking is essentially the strafe and snap, along being level 1, and around essentially being level 4. I think if you re going to use a system to try to categorize players based on movement circle strafing is more encompassing and provides more answers. BUT I love to see that more spies are open to trying to understand how movement works! 😄

[@lieuty]

when i get around to part 2 of video ill cover the reasoning for players moving in these 5 ways from what ive learned over the years and some deeper understanding of the counters with my way of thinking

[@kuzyera]

this is just the crd circlestrafing theory but with different names and a lot of oversights and generalizations

[@lieuty]

the movement patterns in crds tutorials were extremely rigid, i distilled the basic movement patterns and put it in context with all the other aspects of spy and how they all connect with one another

[@kuzyera]

@@lieuty my brother your theory is 1 to 1 the same, just worse, its just as flexible as crd theory is. Why do you even think that circlestrafing is rigid?

[@lieuty]

@@kuzyera because the players are assumed to have the same base movement pattern, every other movement pattern they do is just an ignorable detail when it isn't

[@kuzyera]

@@lieuty check dms, i wrote a lot about that there

[@lieuty]

@@kuzyera lieutylew on discord

[@Fidelio1707]

This feels like essential the same as circle strafe levels from CRD’s video but this makes it way easier to remember tbh, when I was watching CRD video I understood it but just remember which is level 2 which is level 3 is just so confusing, it’s better just categorizing it as “after, away, along” instead of level 1 level 2 level 3 😅

[@user-nz7ti7zp8k]

Graphics tutorial?

[@lieuty]

art you mean or config?

[@user-nz7ti7zp8k]

@@lieuty art

[@lieuty]

ahhh, ye sure i will man (:

[@valcaron]

If you had any conviction in these strategies, then why Dead Ringer?

[@lieuty]

because i like to go fast and play more aggressively. If i had less conviction in my trickstabs i would be going invis so i wouldnt need trickstabs as much

[@YouPromisedMe]

you dont trickstab while invisible but we dont talk about that

[@YouPromisedMe]

you can just look for invisiwatch guides or whatever if you are interested in having a better espionage, other than that this video applies to invisiwatch and dead ringer equally, since they have no impact on what was said 🙏

[@garryhlambert]

Get some sleep, my man!

[@lieuty]

😴

[@lieuty]

People have been talking about Culruldud's tutorials here, reason why I didn't recommend it is because the only things i've learned from it was covered in this video in my own way, beyond that the culruldud videos were of no use to me and everything I covered in this video is what I would've wanted to learn instead of sinking time into culruldud's theories. You can watch his tutorials I just don't recommend what I don't watch or use.

[@sosotik]

easy spy counter: stop moving and look at them (89 percent success rate)

[@lieuty]

theres literally a counter to that at the end of the video

[@sosotik]

@@lieuty (dies)

[@rawrxd4919]

Lil bruh think he crd 💀

[@Cor_.]

Hey, at least he's good and easy to understand

[@dynamic_225]

have you had anyone else contribute to this and give their thoughts on this or is this just a collection of your own intuitive thoughts on the matter

[@lieuty]

with rhythm stuff, ive heard swipez talk about moving to how often they react or something similar, so i made a theory from it, crd, i took the basic movement patterns and how you recognize a movement pattern from it which i broke up into smaller parts, alot of these things in the video ive seen in frag videos, internalised it and turned it into a theory

[@damsen978]

All the recordings of trickstabbing mostly f2p noobs, any decent spy can do this. But a good player will always know when to stop tracking your movement so you won't be able to trickstab, they can also keep their distance in melee range, and if the spy is noob enough, they attempt to corner or stair stab while the good player is just waiting for them to come back and hit them lol Also 1:00 shows how broken the backstab system is. Lag compensation would make it less of a problem if the backstab angle was reduced (so it can actually be on the back instead of almost 90 degrees). As someone with 10k hours, I haven't had a problem with trickstabbers many years ago since i learnt how to deal with them, the only times i fall for it now is when i think they don't know how to trickstab, and once i know they do then i apply these ideas and they always resort to using revolvers (Spy being the weakest class in the game for a gun fight). The best Spy will always be the ones who don't trickstab and pick the perfect moments to backstab, that's why the cloak & dagger is a good choice because it allows you to uncloak whenever you want to go for it.

[@lieuty]

reduce the backstab angle and you're going to destroy spy, even nowadays players have a hard time backstabbing players sometimes when they're moving weird on their end. Also if I played against you i would just go for your teammates if you didnt chase me down, so i would bait you that way unless you let your teammates die :DDD

[@drjello777]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@lieutyi think moving weird is supposed to be a counter to getting backstabbed. Do you think you should just be able to backstab anyone at any time? I don’t think the hit box is an issue though. It’s mostly the fact that the kunai allows you to farm unaware/new/not trying players and use that to consistently take fights with the rest of the team with so much health that you have the time to get close and abuse latency. I saw a lot of times you would have died before getting the trick stab if you didn’t start at 200+ health.

[@drjello777]

@@lieutyI don’t blame the skillful spies for doing this though - I get why you wouldn’t want to take risks and play sneaky if you don’t have to. Good video though and clearly you’re very good at the game and you would be one of the spies who would still be able to trick stab a lot of players without relying on kunai buffs and lag compensation - just they allow it to be done more aggressively than I think is reasonable

[@lieuty]

@@drjello777 tnx for the compliments but how i see it is that i can go soldier, scout or demo and destroy an entire pub way easier than let's say kunai spy with dr, i became a spy main mainly because i love playing in a way where its a one trick pony type of playstyle that is high risk high reward. Soldier also has the blackbox and conch combo, demo can sticky spam, scout has mad milk and bonk, sniper can kill alot of people quickly if he's good enough and so on. The main reason people hate the kunai is because it's popular and people found some potential on it after a great deal of time on the game, the current iteration of the kunai was out for like 9 years, players started complaining about the kunai a few years ago after people started using it in frags and only play with it. If the kunai is going to get nerfed, people will play with the yer or the big earner, hone it and find some new potential on it, and people will want to nerf it like the kunai. One last thing, the massive killstreaks i sometimes get with the kunai take a long time to get, this is every few days of constant gameplay so it does not happen often

[@Astyl_]

That's what every spy frag is, Klown, widely regarded as on of the best knifespies, and regarded as that by me from all I've seen, also gets his insane trickstab chains on bad players. And this is, as you correctly pointed out, because good players can't get trick stabbed almost by definition, most of the time. For some reason nobody mentions this, but you can counter literally any trickstab by pressing the "S" button on your keyboard. If you get trick stabbed often, it means you are bad at meleeing (A skill most players suck at). Spy is a unique class in that it requires high skill to even pull of impressive stuff on noobs, most people can't do what Klown does on bots, so when it is done on a good player, it is even more impressive. The backstab system is not broken. I have about 1400 hours on spy and I can confidently tell you that the times you get screwed out of a simple backstab on your end heavly heavily outweighs the times your enemy got a facestab on their end. And this is something that can't be solved due to how networking works. Maybe some networking wizard can make it a bit better but you can't get around the problem of not having equal ping, priority, bandwidth etc. as your opponent. Reducing the backstab angle is not needed and it would kill spy as a class. Once again, if you have issues with it to the point of wanting to reduce the back "hitbox" (which is exactly at the back since it's 50% of the player hitbox opposite of the head) you either have bad internet or are bad at meleeing, which with 10k hours I doubt you are. I heavily disagree with your conclusion. The best spy is one who performs best. If a spy gets 30 kills while being aggressive he's objectively better in that match than another spy who waits around patiently, maybe dies less and gets 15 kills, and in casual, there are no class priorities or important picks since everyone is generally equally incompetent. Me and Luv agree on this and I've even told him that I appreciate his Steam profile at the time including a sentence on about how trickstabing is an essential skill for any good spy.

[@Sytf1337]

do i care

[@lieuty]

you do lil bro

[@rehab_herr]

enough to comment apparently

[@Sytf1337]

@@rehab_herr u make pub frag videos man

[@gwntI]

ngl trying this hard to be good at spy means you should just quit 😁

[@lieuty]

true

[@Astyl_]

To anyone saying "hurr durr CRD" in the comments, his circle strafing system is: a) a giant waste of time and b) largely arbitrary and made up The only two useful bits of information he disclosed in his videos is the existence of a C2C cornerstab type and the circle strafe trickstab. Anything beyond that is something you'll learn through playing and has no business being 5 hours long. And don't even get me started on the made up stabs. "Level 2 stab" where the entire stab is if scouts mash ad ad as they do, you get behind them. That as well as any other of the level over 9000 stabs are not special stabs, they are LARPing.

[@yuzuku2397]

tell me you didnt watch the crd tutorial without telling me you didnt watch the crd tutorial

[@tfwthewhen]

bro think he crd