When Dowsers Competed For $1,000,000

[@ModernRogue]

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[@MalcolmAuger]

A spaceman in king's arthur's court by Disney in the late 70's magnetized a sword that lead a bad guy astray.

[@yomamaso100]

You guys seriously need to do a episode where you sit down and play a game of Monopoly!

[@Idigedgein]

It was from Bio-Dome and Son-in-law, the only hyphenated Pauly Shore movies ;)

[@DJSaucy564]

Let me come and compete. Or collab or something. I can explain the science behind this and it isn't new age energy bullcrap. I can do this with 100% accuracy every single time Yall can do it with 99 buckets of sand and 1 bucket of water. 20 times. I win if I get it right 100% of the time. I'm dead serious. And there is actual science behind this you guys are just doing it way way way wrong.

[@jacoviewright1260]

The gentleman never said "energy". He said you could sense where there was a "void" for "some reason" (may not be exactly what he said, but I believe more accurate). I'm not saying he is right. Just that he really didn't give of a new age, "energy" vibe.

[@D33r_Hunt3r_]

Buying art, especially modern art, is usually a scam or money laundering. Buying part of art sounds even more like a scam.

[@nilpo]

Precisely.

[@ComradePhoenix]

Its like dowsing, but for people who think 'line go up' is a valid statement.

[@KusaneHexaku]

while that does of course happen, please dont dismiss all art. some people just genuinely like art, and some artist just also genuinely like art. not saying i trust this sponsor or support nft or anything though

[@nilpo]

@@KusaneHexaku Absolutely! It's great to support art and artists. I have bought several paintings from local artists. But if you want something from a master, you buy it from a reputable dealer, not some random online brokerage. And you buy the whole artwork to own, you don't buy some interest in something that isn't tangible. That's just moronic.

[@Ashephalt]

It’s pretty disappointing to see from this channel honestly. You gotta keep the lights on obviously and I’m fine with the shitty VPN ads but this is awful.

[@voidstar.studio]

Jason's absolute dedication to the bit to actually eat a mouthful of sand was impressive

[@DismemberTheAlamo]

I was going to say the same thing. Thats a man of dedication

[@mikeoxlong1395]

Why would he do that?

[@Goryus]

The way the JREF would have tested this is to fill each bucket with water or sand randomly, and ask the claimant to have the correct matching pattern. With 5 buckets it's about a 3% chance of success, versus the 20% in your setup.

[@Cthulhu013]

Man James Randi did so much in his time. What a huge loss. Don't feel like anybody has picked up his mantle.

[@lettersnstuff]

god I miss James Randi

[@acegamer7549]

It would actually be 50%, because each bucket is a 50/50 you’re right, and out of 5 buckets, you have a 50% chance of getting it right

[@loganlambert5679]

@@acegamer7549 with five buckets there are 32 different combinations of water and sand buckets, so the chance of getting the correct order is 1 in 32 which is around 3%

[@lettersnstuff]

@Logan Lambert the absolute state of the american public education system smh…

[@fawndoe1917]

fun fact: The US and Iraqi militaries actually bought bomb detecting machines in the 2000s which were in essence just dowsing rods which did not, in any way work

[@Cthulhu013]

Bahahahaha. I really hope that is true. Just shows how high up incompetence can run.

[@legion162]

@@Cthulhu013 it really is true, husband and wife team, they got sent down for fraud, it happened maybe 2013 ish, iirc they were from the South of England somewhere

[@skepticallypwnd]

Yup. They spent millions on that crap. Sadly, I couldn't find a moment for those title cards. - Modern Rogue Editing Supervisor

[@jordanthedove]

Many peolpe died as a result of explosive devices getting through car check-points to their targets.

[@DrSbaitsojr]

only trump supporters would fall for this lie. bombs are made containing metal. we have metal detectors

[@skepticallypwnd]

True story, that's only like 2/3rds of title cards I made for this episode. Dowsing has been debunked so many times that it's not even recognizable as the dead horse it used to be. It's just a dry stain that every science communicator has been obligated to walk across the last 150 years. - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

[@TravisTerrell]

People in my rural area literally still hire them all the time to tell them [guess] the best location for their well.

[@skepticallypwnd]

@@TravisTerrell that makes me sad, but proves the skeptic rule of thumb that there is no form of BS ever introduced to the world that will ever completely leave.

[@franklinrowland1093]

I work for a water dept. And these are still used by me and my crew daily to mark water lines in the ground. Infact, USA Blue Book ,a retailer for pipes, fittings, and the like, sell the "Magnetomatic" part#25720. In it's "instructions" it started it works with magnetic fields... It's made from stainless steel and plastic... Materials that aren't attracted to magnets...

[@edmundf.kuelliiispiritualn2963]

@@TravisTerrell of course they do because it works.

[@carsond7870]

@@skepticallypwnd Have the team look deeper into the sponsor masterworks, they are two steps from a pump a dump scam!! I know you guys have higher standards, I know you guys respect your viewers.

[@lazywargaming6752]

I feel like putting dowsing rods in a survival kit is kinda like putting a d8 or a coin. One of those 'Im out of options and moral, let's just leave it up to change' sort of things

[@sophiatrocentraisin]

And in this very specific case, it's actually better than nothing. Hell, even when you don't know where to start looking, you might as well resort to this kind of noise generator. At worst it just breaks analysis paralysis by giving you an absolute random result. At best it taps into your intuitive pattern recognition in a way where you may actually be better than pure randomness at locating water given landscape features, but you need something to have any kind of confidence in your intuition

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

Honestly. An occult survival kit sounds cool af as a novelty piece.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Right? I kinda want to make one

[@Bobsmith-xq2pr]

Hi rogues, I love your content and I do know you need sponsorships to make your money, but this weeks sponsor is kinda shady. You guys normally promote stuff like VPNs, supplements, and fairly normal and useful stuff. Promoting an iffy investment scheme is worse. There's a big difference between advertising a product worth ~$50 - $200, and an investment scheme asking for thousands of dollars. Maybe choose slightly better sponsors in the future? I love your content, but I want to keep this comment as a warning to viewers to avoid janky investing schemes like the one promoted today.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

yeah these "partial investment" things trigger a lot of alarms here.

[@medleyshift1325]

Yeah, gonna double down with you Bob, thanks for saying something. Rouges, we really get you need to keep the lights on, and trust us when we say we fully understand and are grateful, but this is a bit much.

[@AnymMusic]

Not to mention that they doubled down on it, with (I believe it was Brian in the comments) saying it "passed his sniffing test". Dude might as well have used dowsing rods to see if Masterworks is legit or not

[@TheoneStanband]

"If they are thirsty then let them drink the sand" I would actually like to see you guys do a dowse or no dowse game show even if it's just a single episode.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

I’m down!

[@michaelfercik3691]

Use physics and the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod. To use physics in dowsing you have to be moving for crossing the sought radiated elemental magnetic flux lines which energize the sought element's one-tenth ounce dowsing rod load that is attached to the dowsing rod. The world is about to be taught the physics in dowsing, how to build your own modern ball bearing dowsing rod by reading the book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition.

[@carsond7870]

I understand the hunt for the bag, but put a disclaimer if your sponsor is a blatant scam, have some class

[@MrPacman64]

How is it a scam lol

[@carsond7870]

@@MrPacman64 Masterworks is known in the industry for being very deceptive about the investment pieces they offer, most have a deliberate negative cash flow. The company also charge up to 25% transaction rates and a surcharge on any withdrawal.

[@MrPacman64]

@@carsond7870 what Industry exactly lmao I've never heard of it. Also if everything is written out I don't see how it's a scam. Just sounds like a bad deal

[@carsond7870]

@@MrPacman64 Online Investment Platforms 🤡🤡 Edit: Forgot one more 🤡 for your facetious ass 🤡🤡🤡

[@MrPacman64]

@@carsond7870 how is online investing bad lmao what? Giving off mad tinfoil vibes

[@JoeDiamondLive]

I’ve always wanted to do Dowsing on this show! Thanks for having me back!

[@ModernRogue]

Our pleasure!

[@skepticallypwnd]

Thanks, man! I don't get to flex my skeptic muscle very often these days.

[@michaelfercik3691]

Read the recently published book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition for learning all the physics that energize both the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod and electronic metal detectors with being the same principle of having to be moving for becoming energized by the sought element's elemental magnetic flux lines. I give FREE dowsing lessons in Laplata Canyon near Durango, Colorado where a gold vein system runs underneath the Laplata County Road. Bring the filming crew and be flabbergasted by the dowsing!

[@gh0stwulf863]

@@michaelfercik3691 Oh, god… I hope you’re just trolling. I REALLY hope you’re trolling! If not, I hope you’re at least honest about the giving “free” dowsing lessons. I can already imagine some of the people you teach turning around and using their new “ability” to scam some poor saps trying to find gold or lost jewelry…

[@drpibisback7680]

​​@@gh0stwulf863Google tells us all we need to know here - one Michael Fercik _wrote_ the book "The Art of Dowsing: Separating Science from Susperstition." A copy can be yours for about $15.

[@kennethhubbs3599]

Honestly, I was really expecting them to find that ALL the buckets were filled with sand. Goes against the experiment, but would have been funny!

[@EpicMonkeyFries]

Princess Bride. He's thinking about Inigo Montoya and the Pit of Despair.

[@skepticallypwnd]

SHHHHH! - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

[@EpicMonkeyFries]

@@skepticallypwnd Oh crap. Sorry... I misread the text. I didn't see the "wrong" part. O_o

[@Ihahnsolo]

Yesssssss ✊

[@dvldgz6306]

I heard Adam Savage talk about this. He thinks that we naturally know where water is more likely to be in nature and so we move the sticks that way when we see natural indicators. Like lush plant life or moss.

[@michaelfercik3691]

Read the recently published book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition. This is one that when dowsed correctly, Adam Savage and crew would never be able to debunk the physics of dowsing with the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod and electronic metal detectors are one and the same.

[@dbackscott]

I’m a geotechnical engineer. When I first started watching this video I was thinking “please tell me they’re going to debunk this bullshit.” At 5:00: “oh, thank God.”

[@snarkylive]

I'm a geologist, when the driller busts out the dowsing rods, I know its time to go smoke and let them decide which of the infinite rapidly shifting underground utilities they are going to drill into.

[@dbackscott]

@@snarkylive what’s even more infuriating is when the utility locators bust out the dowsing rods…

[@JoeDiamondLive]

😂

[@dbackscott]

Yeah, Florida… need I say more?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@dbackscott they can find anything if they focus hard enough, even love

[@leppeppel]

I love how we've clearly got two well-intentioned charlatans looking for reason and one polite skeptic with no time for bullshit. And I really wish they dumped the water bucket on Shwood after he "won" like a gatorade cooler.

[@Gararrad08]

Dowser? I hardly know her.

[@Bigjess2you]

Isn’t that the turtle dude from Mario?

[@jackdonovan554]

Pocahontas?

[@johnholchin]

gas company was doing a CBYD check and one of the guys got out dousing rods. they also used their real equipment, but I still wrote to the company about dangerous activity.

[@skepticallypwnd]

Good for you! Sincerely. (why does that always look sarcastic in print?) - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

[@catchara1496]

@@skepticallypwnd try a tilde inbetween the last word and punctuation? Good for you! vs Good for you~! Idk tho

[@Brent-jj6qi]

@@catchara1496 That looks more sarcastic, or lewd depending on which corners of the internet you've been to

[@Xolisaz83]

You havent digged trenches in your life. Utility employees will always use their rods to get the job done quickly. It would be stupid not to use them.

[@Brent-jj6qi]

@@Xolisaz83 except there’s no scientific basis or any studies showing that there might be anything about them that works

[@navn_ukjent]

Dowsing for water is of course silly, but it would very rarely be dangerous. The insanity and danger is much higher when people claim that they can use dowsing to find landmines! This is something that regularly pops up, and will of course lead to injuries and deaths. It's particularly insidious when it's sold to un-developed countries as a cheaper alternative to actual anti-mine equipment.

[@ModernRogue]

oh, yeah-- that was one of the more electronic-ish gizmos that were happening in the early 2000's.

[@lokithecat7225]

Sounds like they work just fine... If they have a thousand land mines to find, give a thousand villagers Rods. Over a long enough time, they will all be found and "Disarmed".

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Good point

[@kixeusvent]

Dowsing for water does work though. Water witches have jobs for a reason

[@mountainhun]

Ooooooh in one of my classes, we were studying remote sensing, geophysical devices to detect things in the ground, stuff like ground penetrating radar, metal detectors, electromagnetic devices, etc. In one of the books or papers we had for reading, they did mentioned dowsing, and like thoroughly roasted it, like "Dowsing rods have not been found to be more accurate than random chance in encountering and recording anomalies or archaeological material." XD

[@baneverything5580]

The phone company sent guys to bury the internet cable today. I looked out the window after hearing a noise and I watched a guy with one divining rod instantly locate the water line in one try, walk away to get a shovel, dig down and locate the line within seconds, then successfully NOT damage my water line burying the cable. I watched a guy I worked with use it repeatedly to find water lines and even leaks on jobs...one four feet deep. So explain it. If these guys ridiculed me for UFO attacks I experienced I`d hurt them.

[@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE]

@@baneverything5580 it's just nonsense. Every time someone is critical of divining, people come out from the dark corners and say "I saw a guy do it once" or some variation of the story and that is supposed to be proof. It's like the existence of viruses claiming they cause disease. It's fantasy. If divining were real, there would be a scientific test done, a proper gold standard controlled test. But there is not anything like that proving it works. It would be a simple test to conduct as well, one which does not require lab coats, million dollar devices, research grants etc. But no one has ever proven it works against a control in a proper test.

[@baneverything5580]

@@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE Perhaps you should at least make an attempt at educating yourself by reading astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell`s book, The Way Of The Explorer, and spend some time examining the evidence and research available. They said Uri Geller the "spoon bender" was a fake and they convinced the public of this. But isn`t it VERY ODD that he has made a massive fortune using DIVINING to locate extremely valuable oil, gas, and mining deposits for huge companies for his entire adult life? And isn`t it odd what Dr Mitchell discovered when testing the man? But you just keep on believing the "woke" version of "modern" MSNBC "science" and all these evil, greedy crooks calling themselves the "experts." "TRUST THE SCIENCE!" LOL! Oh boy...

[@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE]

@@baneverything5580 I don't trust the science all the time. I look at evidence and make my own decision. I don't believe viruses are real for example which means Covid isn't a disease which means vaccines don't do what they are claimed which means they should not be injected into your inner body as there is no reason for it. Now flat Earth... evidence to me suggest the Earth is round. I pick and choose. Dowsing is like viruses to me... sure people are getting sick but is it caused by a virus? Similar to that people may find water but observing someone finding water is like obersiving someone geting sick and saying its caused by a virus you caught from someone else.

[@bloodyhell8201]

@@baneverything5580 Go on, hurt them. You wont do shit. 😋

[@PBTophie]

"Own pieces of ... Banksy's..." Wait, what? No! THAT'S CONTRARY TO THE ENTIRE IDEA!!! Banksy's worked too hard for people to completely miss the point.

[@gaiusjuliuspleaser]

2022 Banksy completely misses the point of 2002 Banksy, too. These days, my man is all in on the NFT grift.

[@shellbournian]

you guys remember that time Jason just casually put a handful of sand in his mouth and it somehow wasn't the weirdest crap you just saw?

[@JoeDiamondLive]

😂

[@Gabrocol]

He doesnt like sand because its coarse ruff and irritating

[@sythestar]

Pretty sure Brian was thinking about Indigo Montoya using his sword to guide his way to the six fingered man in The Princess Bride.

[@ModernRogue]

yup. they finally let me off the hook at the end.

[@minette36]

You absolute saint.

[@XXassasinzX]

Oh, I fully thought we were talking about Rincewind's magic sword in TCOM movie. Princess Bride I'd far less vague lol

[@ikitclaw7146]

@@XXassasinzX i was right there with you on this one. never seen princess bride lol

[@Gabrocol]

After watching this video, i can confirm I still dont like sand. Its coarse, ruff, and irritating and it gets everywhere.

[@ForensicCats]

They actually do not find water but it's the voids! I accept this challenge and have used these in the field fir years!- finding underground pipes and electrical. I accept yout challenge for as little as $10,000.00. You bury the pipe, take nme to the location and say it's a 10 foot pipe burried two feet deep. I will reveal it's location and if not, I will pay you $10,000.00 and if i find it, you'll pay me $10,000.00 plus my travel expenses. This is not a joke and you can do the video live! We split the video profits 50/50 ... We will both escrow the $10,000.00 so no way to back out. I can even explain your bucket test flaws .. .

[@IAmThatIAm8888]

They won't take your offer. They're just making childish entertainment out of anything they can for their own gain.

[@ZanadoRandel]

So there is a solid argument that the people who were successful with them in the wild were so successful because they new what the signs of potential underground water are. All the rods did was let them focus on something that allowed them to unconsciously see those signs, which is why no matter how many times they can do it in a wilderness setting, they can never do it in a scientific one, the rods do nothing, its there brain thats picking up on the signs of water in the area.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Interesting 🤔

[@groovychic]

love when city scientists attempt to "disprove" something country folks have done and will continue to do successfully for hundreds of years.

[@FinallyAlmino]

There is water basically everywhere, the dowsing rods are not doing a damn thing

[@Michelle-Davis]

SMH

[@Beegpapijimbo]

Using dowsing rods for plumbing is like using Tarot for HR decisions

[@chetmcgovern9985]

I have an uncle that legitimately believes in this sorta stuff. Instead of using it for fun like Joe here, he believes that this stuff really exists and that he has a gift for using it on other people.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

*Uncle takes off disguise to reveal he’s really Joe Diamond 😱

[@chetmcgovern9985]

@@JoeDiamondLive I woulda gotten away with it, if it weren't for you meddling rogues!

[@JoeDiamondLive]

@@chetmcgovern9985 😂

[@michaelfercik3691]

Nobody understood the physics of dowsing and metal detecting are the same. Read the book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition that explains all the physics of dowsing with the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod, which accurately gauges all edges, depth buried with angle of deposition and GRADING

[@chetmcgovern9985]

@@michaelfercik3691 It isn't a science nor has it ever truly been proven under legitimate scientific conditions. There have been tests done with dowsers where they were placed in a multistory building and told that there was a large body of water on the floor beneath them (which there was). With all their tricks, none of them could ever find it.

[@overestimatedforesight]

Jason's commitment to the joke is unparalleled

[@jamienightingale707]

Having a couple lengths of coat hanger wire in a survival kit isn't such a bad idea though

[@lokithecat7225]

Never know when you might need to perform an abortion.

[@noseriouslyimserious4073]

Yeah. Not really sure how including them is “DANGEROUS”.

[@merashino]

imagine if joe switched the bucket of water for another bucket of sand and let Jason and Brian find the "water" only because they expect it to be there

[@marcogenovesi8570]

would have played the same

[@Palthura]

*me dowsing in an SHTF situation and I walk up to the river behind my house* “Babe! They work!!”

[@adamnichols476]

that plumber comment makes no sense, even if they blamed the rods, they are still responsible.

[@TheRandomNat]

A sword that guides you around? sounds like Shadow of the Colossus to me...

[@user-md3is4dq2d]

I think dowsing rods translate “gut feeling” to a continuous readout of direction.

[@michaelfercik3691]

All of the physics involved in dowsing and metal detecting are one and the same. Read the book The Art of Dowsing - Separating Science from Superstition and learn how to build the modern light weight ball bearing dowsing rod for using the physics explained and become a professional dowser.

[@drpibisback7680]

@@michaelfercik3691 Michael, you wrote the goddamn book. I don't trust any of that coming from you.

[@EchosTackyTiki]

4:20 yeah dowsing rods are like a poor man's version of Jack Sparrow's compass; it shows you what you want most.

[@gracesews876]

the fact that Brian had to google it actually hurts my soul

[@Aliraldd992]

Joe is one of the best guest and it's always a pleasure to have him on, but Jason eating sand in the end? That's just gold

[@JoeDiamondLive]

I’ve never been happier to be upstaged 😂

[@bryanturner683]

Testing it on buckets is just stupid. they need to hire and independent person to take them out and have them look for sprinkler lines in a golf course. something they have no idea of, then you still have to account for the fact it doesnt work for everyone. This proves nothing.

[@UberSpah]

What's the difference? Dowsers agreed to participate, meaning they are absolutely sure about their abilities and confident that they will work. Yet they don't.

[@heckensteiner4713]

50% of the time it works 100% of the time.

[@jernada6794]

8:47 "can we sell or cultist survival packs?" Yes, yes you can sell them, you can put anything in them, and it will sell.

[@Ramonatho]

I can't wait to see Brian covering Masterworks on world's greatest con in a few years.

[@MrPacman64]

Why is it a scam exactly?

[@Ramonatho]

@@MrPacman64 never believe anything that promises "partial ownership" of anything. You don't own it. You hold a share of something that you cannot materially do anything with other than sell. You cannot change, manipulate, or otherwise alter said thing they claim you "own".

[@mikey9164]

The greatest cons are the ones that are technically legal right?

[@skepticallypwnd]

If it's a scam then so is capitalism... Oh wait. But seriously, it's no different than any other investment/stock market.

[@carsond7870]

@@skepticallypwnd this is not a good opinion friend. You should hold yourself to a higher standard. This is a predatory company that uses deception and high rates to make it easy to put money in and difficult to withdraw.

[@HughStLeger]

Brian found water but it was poisoned,Jason survived

[@ModernRogue]

on nutritious, nutritious sand.

[@HughStLeger]

@@ModernRogue love that y'all replied,love from Ireland and you'll last 3 days without water, you'll shit yourself to death on bad water in two

[@Cthulhu013]

Just to be clear, there is no good evidence to support dowsing. In fact, every controlled test conducted has failed to demonstrate it's a reliable method for locating anything. In short, it's woo woo.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Great addition 😊

[@newtonbomb]

But it's pragmatically useful woo-woo, at least when it comes to locating water lines. It's better than just blindly guessing and in my own experience has prevented me from wasting time or damaging lines on multiple occasions. I don't claim to know it's providence, and think it is likely some sort of subconscious mental trick, but I do know that it can work very effectively when the normal means of radio detection are not an option.

[@Cthulhu013]

@@newtonbomb It's not better though. It's been tested. Controlled studies on the matter don't show any reliability. If you believe otherwise, there are still prizes offered from different organizations around the world looking to reward anybody that can successfully demonstrate such phenomena under controlled conditions. What do you have to lose other than time? Especially if you walk away with pockets full of cash and having contributed to scientific knowledge?

[@newtonbomb]

@@Cthulhu013 I'm fairly confident under any controlled laboratory conditions I wouldn't perform any better than baseline chance would suggest, as those conditions would be specifically setup to isolate some actual empirical effect allowing the normally purported mystical dowsing ability for materials, which I highly doubt actually exists. What I do know is that in the real world, not an isolated laboratory setting, it has actual pragmatic use given a few conditions gathered from my experience: 1. Used to locate water lines specifically, at least that is the only use I've done it successfully for. 2. Prior knowledge of a general area (even if quite large) and vague direction (ie. from this general point on a house to where the water main hookup should tacitly be located, or some similar situation) of where the lines should be running 3. If water can be made to flow through the line it seems to make a difference in accuracy and reliability, especially when attempting to locate 90° turns and the like. I've used it in this manner multiple times in such a fashion that should I just guess and mark where I consciously think the lines are, I would have been way off from where I dowsed them to correctly be (within + or - 10" or so generally). What the actual mechanism causing it to work effectively in that narrow use case is, I have no real idea; it could be some power of the subconscious mind to pick up on subtle clues my conscious mind cannot, such as tiny vibrations, sounds, or minute landscape/vegetation changes, or it could be some electric/dielectric field interaction. I'm not sure, and don't really care tbh if it works 🤷

[@newtonbomb]

I should also say that I believe it possible that someone else could also achieve reliable practical in the field dowsing ability based on a set of conditions that they gather from their own experience, and that I could also possibly build a system for using it in other cases should I have the time and need to put in the work to do so. I'd rather, and would rather others, just use an actual radio electromagnetic field effect locator or GPRS when possible which is 99.9% of the use cases I run into and no doubt the same for others.

[@MrSears_1.618]

I was taught this very young, way back in the mountains of Southern Appalachia.

[@anarkizt]

The game show should be titled “Dowse or Douse” and the gag is if you get it wrong you get doused in water.

[@stinkymccheese8010]

If I remember correctly the twigs used were typically willow, but may well have varied depending on what you are looking for.

[@ProductKingReviews]

This randomly popped up when searching something else. Haven’t see that guy in over a decade back when I watched “Scam School” Podcast on my Zune when I was in High School. Wow! Blast from the past.

[@justinbanks2380]

Episodes with Joe Diamond are always awesome

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Thank you my friend 😊

[@numeristatech]

A family friend taught me dowsing. I called bullshit. I still do. My stepfather asked me to locate a water pipe. My dowsing rods strangely crossed where everyone thought (including me) the pipe was. It wasn't 😂 It just confirmed for me that pendulums and dowsing rods just confirm your own bias. Interesting psychological experiment, and this video confirms it all!

[@IlTrojo]

I almost expected Brian to shout "Thalatta! Thalatta!" when water was revealed.

[@SourceOfBeing]

I was expecting all 5 barrels to have sand

[@oldnerdsteve]

With the coathangers, you can get two cheap ball point pens and strip the insides out and use those for the tubes. That's what some friends and I did in high school.

[@jessehackett6941]

Iv used these for years as a plumber and I can tell you 100% that they work to find leaks and pipes and water pockets for a well.

[@jagervolant7871]

I tried their test w 10 buckets, and had them randomly switched…. 3 out of 3 times… and I was a skeptic. 😂

[@Radix.Strategy]

You had me at Occultist Survival Kits. Love you guys! Edit: the real plumbers bring thermal sensors and run hot water to find the damg pipes. Fixed the problem. Winners.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

For surviving when the dark gods walk again unto our land

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Occult Survivalist Kits! I gotta get to work on those!

[@CrowHavenPastures]

I live in a small town in the great lakes region of the US and no joke if anyone wants a well drilled in my county they have to hire a "water witch" who dowses for a good spot on your land. Which usually determines where your house will be built.

[@skepticallypwnd]

That's depressing. Damn. - Modern Rogue Post-production Supervisor

[@CrowHavenPastures]

@@skepticallypwnd yeah. It's not even the person who owns and runs the drilling equipment, it's a service all it's own. Thank modern rogue for legend smashing this one 👍

[@drpibisback7680]

Out of curiosity, how much does it pay to be a "water witch?" Are water warlocks also accepted? Asking for a friend, who is me.

[@Mussoi7000]

the film that brian is looking for is called "legend of zelda skyward sword"

[@Suesco]

using rods on a small amount of water is a little bit ridiculous considering humans are 60% water. their water would interfere. im convinced that dowsing works by finding places where the elevation shifts from downhill to uphill. if you follow the direction they point, it will lead you downhill, the second you take a step uphill, the rods will tilt back towards you. this will find the low point where the water sinks OR it will find you the low point where a water line was dug, and refilled with loose dirt. every time you cross the waterline, you will go downhill to uphill as you cross the divet.

[@IamNerfDart]

Bruh Jason went full Anakin mode with the "I don't like sand" at the end.

[@crazyinterestin4287]

We find water lines underground consistently. Turning the water on, so their is running water in the line seems to help.

[@johnnymac6242]

Dowsing for water is a sham, BUT, I have seen linemen dowse for buried lines multiple times with accuracy. It is by no means perfect like a locator. The linemen would use copper conductor off the back of the truck, approximately 1 foot by 6 inches on each side of the bend.

[@jebadia4518]

the real move would've been to make all 5 buckets sand

[@mh_vegas]

Storytime! I used to run a backhoe on a gas pipeline crew. One day the town we were working in sent an official guy to paint lines on the ground to indicate where a giant water main was underground (for us to avoid it). He pulls out a set of dowsing rods, walks around a couple minutes, and marks the line. I raised one eyebrow like really dude? This guy was a very cool old-timer and he just laughed and carefully explained how it worked, even showing me his technique and letting me try. I still remember the feeling of them clearly and it was 30 years ago. Although I wasn't convinced until I dug up the area. He was right on the money.

[@MGlBlaze]

The rational explanation is that the guy misattributed the effectiveness of his own memory to the effectiveness of the dowsing rods. He already knew where the lines were, presumably because he had either marked them out multiple times before, or otherwise was familiar with their placement, and he unconsciously moved the rods in response to where he already knew they were. I'm sure he BELIEVED it was the dowsing rod's doing, but really it was all him.

[@mh_vegas]

@@MGlBlaze Perhaps! When he let me try his instructions were just like 'feel the water'; and at one point I was sure I felt them move. But I remained very skeptical, and was surprised at the accuracy of his markings. This was in an area with long stretches of wide new road. I had never considered that he may have inspected the line when it went in, it was covered up with a street and he was really accurate compared to average underground utility marking (like phone lines or power lines located with a detector tool).

[@gregorybatz7297]

My experience I that it works, but only for flowing water.

[@foulphilosopher8624]

It worked for me every time for finding underground power

[@gregorybatz7297]

@@foulphilosopher8624 I used a Rigid Seektec for power lines. The transmitter used variable frequencies and you can determine depth fairly accurately. In approximately 18 months I only missed one electrical line.

[@hollywoodhobie]

I can't believe you had to google The Princess Bride, for shame.

[@kd7jhd]

Thank you for the informative and entertaining video. BTW, When are we going to see you guys on the Skeptics Guide to the Universe again?

[@ModernRogue]

Shoot! I should reach out to the gang!! -BB

[@kd7jhd]

@@ModernRogue I bet Steve would be open to reviewing some of the things you discussed in this video. Especially the part about pseudoscientific survival kits.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

I’d be down 😊

[@T0MA2EN]

i think the reason they seem to work is if you go far enough any direction you will most likely find water

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Pretty much 😊

[@alwaysfallingshort]

My family are atheists, my dad is one of the most reasonable people I know. He still somehow believes in dowsing. He's very defensive too, the emperor isn't very certain about his new clothes. It's maddening. He is also a very intuitive, smart person--so his belief that it works comes from his actual knowledge and experience finding water as a driller/blaster. But it must be the rods, not his 50+ years of knowledge.

[@alwaysfallingshort]

He's also not very self aware and its my opinion that it gives people more access to their subconscience, that's why people feel "funny" when they do it. They don't usually notice how much their brain works.

[@ModernRogue]

that tracks, imo. -Brian

[@ryanbard8555]

I heard dowsing rods are very effective at locating reiki practitioners

[@Nefyoni]

I was expecting them all to be sand

[@1993Duckman]

I love Jasons committment to the bit haha

[@fromthebackseat4865]

Kinda weird how a channel which teaches people about scams so often has scammers sponsor them.

[@CallousCoder]

Oh fuck I feel so stupid right now! I see him hold the coat hangers loosely in his hand and I am literally like: “why again did I make those from brass rod and a live or brass pipe where I slid a pipe as a handle and tapped a brass ball on the bottom for the 4 pairs I used in my show?!” I could’ve just had to bend the thin brass bar and be done.” Damn… where were you guys 15 years ago 😂😂😂 I actually used 4 individuals and what I did was covertly also looking who was the most open for suggestion for the suggestion/hypnosis bit later on. And I would keep the two best and have 5 “dove pans ;)” and had them dowse usually. The most suggestive person went second so seeing the first person’s rods cross would unconsciously also do for them. Sometime with a little suggestive nudge. And then you have a seeming miracle that they both found 1 “dove pan” with water (is actually used oil) and the others empty. If they’d disagree I’d urge them to try and come to a consensus. But 4 out of 5 times that wasn’t even necessary.

[@ragerequiem6323]

The number of people in the business of locating utilities that use these is truly horrifying and makes the number of lines that get cut make more sense

[@ComradePhoenix]

I didn't have to scroll much farther down in the comments to find someone saying they do precisely that. And it honestly explains so much why my local county once made me lose internet for a whole week when clearing out a drainage ditch.

[@newtonbomb]

@@ComradePhoenix to be fair, many times there is actually no scientific device or way to locate some types of underground utilities due to either materials or corrosion over time, so it is often not the workers fault. Sometimes you just have to dig slowly and hope you get lucky (which you don't always or often neccessarily).

[@ComradePhoenix]

@@newtonbomb In this case, there was no excuse. The ISP had little boxes along the road, and orange flags placed between them. Besides, doesn't 'call 811 before you dig' exist for a reason?

[@newtonbomb]

@@ComradePhoenix fair enough. They were probably just lazy and didn't dig down with a shovel to find it like they should've before they went at with the machine. Happens all the time, I work for an ISP and if I had a nickel for everytime our fiber got broke for just that reason I'd be more than a few dollars richer.

[@lokithecat7225]

Brian Missing the Movie Reference.... Inconceivable.

[@dustymcdust5095]

The rods don't find the water you do, they just act as an antenna between your frequency within you and what you seek to find

[@chlorie0w061]

1why doesn't everyone use it 2it takes training 1why don't plumbers use it 2it isn't that easy 1why do only untrained people use it 2frequencies from the user 1why can't machines measure them 2magic

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

The Princess Bride. Inigo Montoya asks his dead father to guide his sword and lets his sword lead him around.

[@greengaleproductions]

(DISCLAIMER: NOT AN EXPERT) I think the reason it works (or at least worked in the past) is because humans have an innate intuition that we either ignore or distrust. By using a tool that is mostly chaotic (like Dowsing Rods or Pendulums), your intuition meets with your ideomotor response and you end up being able to visualize your intuition and making it more likely to guess correctly and confidently. AGAIN, I am not an expert, I literally haven't researched this since about a decade ago.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Not gonna lie. I kinda dig this theory 😊

[@urban1337]

Props to Jason to for the ending I was not expecting.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Right? Same!

[@jameswest6232]

If I had a plumber come by and he pulled out a pair of rods, I would be taking photos before telling him to get out, he's not getting a cent, and if he or his company even tries to kick up a fuss about it, I'll be sharing those photos with the cops.

[@Churro_Douglas]

I think by putting the bucket at the end of the line, one of them was super likely to find it. They would go down the line and nothing would happen, because nothing could happen, and then at the last bucket there is suddenly a 100% chance it has the water by process of elimination.

[@Imperial_Squid]

It's not quite the same thing but this made me think of the Unexpected Hanging paradox

[@JoeDiamondLive]

Interesting 🤔

[@BeastOfTraal]

I was expecting all the buckets to be sand.

[@chuckolmstead2921]

Fill all buckets with water, then put a roast in one of the buckets, cover the buckets and see what happens.

[@bannablitz247]

I appreciate the idea of buying random artwork, but don't try and fool me into believing that billionaires are not just laundering money Mr. Modern Rogue Sir.

[@therandomguy9774]

Theoretically letting your subconscious brain take control over that could in theory help you (very much just in theory) for example in your peripheral vision you saw some water far away, your conscious brain didn't "perceive" it but your brain still decided to remember it

[@xhybridnoisebloomx1187]

definitely am sketched out by the sponsor here, would urge to reconsider

[@jonathonschram3429]

Deployed here...so alot of free time. One of my guys here is really, really into 'diving rods'. Like he's a true believer--he's been 'identifying' electrical wires all over our little compound. He's from Washington state and I guess his mother does this for the local farmers or something. Apparently she can find water, pipes, electrical cables, treasure, etc. He has the 'knack' as well. We set up some tests, and he has failed every single one. We needed to do a dig to replace some 600amp shielded cable that was junk anyway, so I let him mark it all out with his diving rods and a paint can. He was pretty much spot on for about 70ft from our SDC (where it was obvious based on direction to the paralleled SDC), but he totally missed where the cables banked 30* and he actually went the totally wrong way from there on. I let him spend about half a day in the mini-ex and the area looked like we had taken IDF. He's still a believer. We poke fun at him occasionally about it still. Whenever we have to dig, I make him run the locator. I can tell it ticks him off every time.

[@noeljbass]

Im 56 seconds in, and the movie you are looking for is Princess Bride. Don't know if you figure it out later in the video, but just for the record XD

[@jeffmaesar]

James Randi looks upon you with a smile knowing critical thinking is alive and well.

[@JoeDiamondLive]

😊

[@EllieODaire]

I wonder where they got all those buckets

[@JoeDiamondLive]

I’ll ask the Dowsing Rods 😊

[@jhonda1956]

Humans are 97% water and dont see an issue with a handheld water detecting device 😂😂😂😂

[@BlockTechGold]

the princess bride when Indigo was looking for the Wesley

[@swiftshadowfax6075]

it was an episode of loony tunes, elmer fudd was using a sword to find bugs.

[@aaroncrandall3281]

Wow really hate that you guys are pushing fine art as an investment opportunity. You mention rich people putting money into fine art and they do that for tax evasion reasons not because it's a good investment. Those are literally the land speculators of today. Very not cool. As a modern rogue you need to not put this junk out to fool people.

[@allenthiele1804]

I love that scene in Die Hard.

[@jacobyspurnger8488]

I could 100% see this being a challenge on the survivor show

[@codys6409]

I don't know almost anything about dowsing, but this doesn't seem like a fair / accurate test.... And these people were clearly biased going into this.

[@Ihahnsolo]

I believe the movie he was thinking of is Princess Bride when he finds the torture chamber in the tree with his fathers sword asking for his fathers direction (;

[@BL_Denni]

bro tried really hard to make his copper rods work, then ate sand .....