This Cheap Sega Saturn Flash Cart is Awesome!

[@ModernVintageGamer]

wanted to mention there was a small pause of the VF2 Saroo Footage at 7:49 - this was an editing issue. does NOT happen on real hardware

[@markbauermeister5449]

Just out of curiosity. Do you know if there's a Saroo or Pseudo Saturn Kai that comes with a USB connector? I quite enjoy Saturn homebrew development (thanks to JoEngine) and would love to stream my freshly compiled builds straight to the console.

[@chap3l]

@@markbauermeister5449 About SAROO: "The USB port is not open and has no effect." TZMWX @TZMWXdiyer :(

[@markbauermeister5449]

@@chap3l That's a shame. Same is apparently true for the Satiator. Many years ago, in my late teens/early twenties I had the chance to get not one but two comms cards in ISA format (brand new and boxed). Wish I had bitten the bullet then.

[@Lubuntuuser]

what are the requirements for burning budokai tenkaichi 3 onto a dvd for the ps2? (i use lubuntu)

[@markbauermeister5449]

@@Lubuntuuser Easiest way to do that is by using an ESR patcher. You need FreeMcBoot for that though. Alternatively, the FreeDVDBoot exploit might help (but that one is pretty finicky on any non-Slim PS2 consoles). For DVD burning on Ubuntu I use Xfburn (you'll want to use the lowest burning speed. Usually 4x)

[@Siktah]

Better than buying burnt CD-Rs from Limited Run Games at least.

[@DeAthWaGer]

Or their "new old stock" pc games that they repackage and charge $200+ for, then their friends scalp on eBay for $400+ Games that probably sat on a pallet for 30 years and were on clearance for $2 when in a store.

[@MysticGargoyle]

I thought they used pressed discs produced from a factory

[@DeAthWaGer]

@@MysticGargoyle they're in the news now for charging $60 for CD-R 3DO games, likely others. Any system pre-copy protection is susceptible (TurboCD, Sega CD, etc.). Just put the disc in a computer and read the type of disc in an authoring/copying program to be certain.

[@MysticGargoyle]

@@DeAthWaGer That is terrible, those games are basically worthless then.

[@Retro_Raji]

OOOOOO 😂😂

[@sayeghjoe]

Sega are sitting on a goldmine. The Saturn catalogue of awesome games demonstrates that. They’re in dire need of remastering for modern consoles.

[@Mr.Atari2600]

Panzer Dragoon Series Powerslave Virtua Fighter 2 Dragon Force 1 & 2 Astal BUG! Saturn Bomberman Nights into Dreams LOTS OF CAPCOM GAMES!!! Cotton 2 Thunder Force V Daytona USA Sega Rally Championship Dead or Alive Burning Rangers

[@DrNoBrazil]

just get a mister

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

No need to remaster - re-release them AS IS!!

[@bobtom1495]

Yeah, like games like Scud: The Disposable Assassin....

[@smitherssp]

Didn't they sell off most of their IP?

[@miasuke]

Golden Axe: The Duel have a compatibility problem with the analog controller. If you boot the game with that controller plugged, the game will return to the BIOS screen before the game even start to run. If you tested Golden Axe: The Duel on Saroo using the analog controller, try to test again, but using a regular Saturn controller to see if you will get the same result.

[@Whateverfloatsurboat2]

I think Bug! does the same thing, probably because it was a launch title and the analog controller hadn't been released yet

[@dapperfan44]

​@@Whateverfloatsurboat2 I tried to get into Bug, I just couldn't. The game is more difficult and frustrating than fun.

[@Aragorn7884]

lolz to the t-shirt 😅

[@bustywaifus]

Much better than his LRG shirts ;-)

[@sonicsnake44]

I agree fully with the message of the shirt.

[@maxrichards5925]

@@sonicsnake44same lol

[@livinlicious]

I love when plug and play no mod solutions like these come out.

[@tranceenergy3121]

You forgot to mention two crucial things. 1. Most of the games that have compatibility issues can be fixed with a config file that lets you adjust the reading speed of the game to improve compatibility. 2. Saroo doesn’t currently support the MPEG card. That means no Lunar Complete :-( Hopefully it will support the MPEG card in future firmware updates.

[@darkfalzx]

What kind of file formats does it take? Can I use compressed CHDs?

[@凌祖人]

I'm afraid this problem cannot be solved because there is a hardware conflict between the slot interface and the MPEG card interface and they cannot coexist.

[@凌祖人]

@@darkfalzx CHD is indeed the most convenient CD image. I have also asked tpunix this question, but the performance of the MCU cannot decompress the CHD format.

[@darkfalzx]

@@凌祖人 Does that mean even if I have an actual MPEG card, it wouldn't work, or does it only mean that Saroo can't emulate an MPEG card all in itself?

[@凌祖人]

@@darkfalzx yes,it wouldn't work.

[@SourVodka]

Never forget the day my father bought me a Saturn with Panzer dragoon 😔😔Memories

[@davidt3563]

Same. My son is now that age. Time flies fast.

[@manamaster6]

In my case, my father one day arrived with a CD called "Sega PC" that was full of ROMs of Sega games, it was back in 99 or 00, I played so much with that CD, as the only Sega console I had was the Master System II as other Sega consoles were expensive in my country.

[@BenjaminBlair-c7v]

@@manamaster6 are you from brazil?(if you don't respond i understand.)

[@manamaster6]

@@BenjaminBlair-c7v No, México.

[@filipmartinez1162]

@@manamaster6Tenían el Sega Saturn en Mexico? Nunca lo he visto en las tiendas de allá durante su época.

[@devilmikey00]

It's crazy how much that copy protection being broken in 2016 blew the doors open for the Saturn retro scene. Prior to that the only emulator still updating saturn support was Mednafen which doesn't come with a GUI and you have to use the command line to operate. Then the copy protection got broken and everything changed. ODE's, Flash Carts, a Mister core and new/updated emulators from people besides Mednafen (although I do believe it still has the best compatibility). It really breathed new life into a piece of hardware that felt like time had chosen to forget.

[@RonaldoTalison]

In the documentary, the satiator creator said that the emulator creators helped him a lot and they exchanged info when he finished broking the protection.

[@robinmattheussen2395]

The Mednafen core is still the best one, though it only has a software renderer (it's pretty accurate though). The command line interface is super easy to use, that's not really the issue. More annoying is that you can't really catalog your collection or easily have a per-game config like most other emulators do (I mean you can but it's a little less convenient). There's a couple of frontends out there, but they aren't very impressive at all. I personally use the Saturn core with RetroArch, but I know there's a lot of people who can't stand RA.

[@dmitrynardelli1625]

MVG, just to let you know, I've been compiling one of the few compatibility lists around, and was one of the first people to actually buy and test the Saroo. I also had a problem with "Golden Axe: The Duel" and even reported it as a "incompatible", but it's actually 100% compatible with Saroo. The problem is that there's a bad dump circulating around, and it seems that (amusingly) it's the one that people are downloading the most. If you really want play that game, download different dumps, and you are good to go. Anyways, I'm glad most of people are now buying a cheaper and better alternative such as the Saroo. MKT Trilogy and SimCity 2000 on the Saroo for instance load INSANELY fast compared to the same games running via disc. I bought my first Saturn last year and was using PSK to play, but then bought the Saroo and I was able to beat all the games I wanted with it.

[@SylvesterAshcroft88]

The saturn was incredibly underrated, and i remember seeing them in some second hand stores, back in the 90's, and i always wondered why they were so expensive, but it makes sense now considering how rare they are, i suppose the Wii U is the closest modern day comparison, with some games on that console, probably being quite difficult to get.

[@ramrodbldm9876]

You sound dumb

[@jolibethrodriguez7471]

The Saturn originally was expensive because it used lots of chips Two CPUs, two chips VDP, CD Controller, CD Bus Controller, RAM, BIOS, M68K Sound Controller, Sound Chip plus all the chips in thr CD Drive

[@VezukiCh]

I needed this video so much! I saw these Saroo carts flooding Aliexpress like within few months past, but saw the different versions and trying to do research proved tough. All these versions and talk about compatibility and not knowing which seller is honest. Your video came in the perfect time and even provided a link to a one youve personally tried so I could be confident to buy it. Thank you so much MVG!

[@G1itcher]

My sister got a Saturn for Christmas one year. Playing Virtual Cop 2 with a controller so much we could 100% every episode. Great times.

[@twitchsopamanxx]

You poor bastard, playing a shooter with a controller

[@G1itcher]

@@twitchsopamanxx we didn't know better 😅

[@DavideNastri]

​@@twitchsopamanxx while the gun + crt is the way to go... Virtual cop 2 plays GREAT also with controller. I was very surprised, they did a great job.

[@SicketMog]

Europe, and especially Scandinavia, got SHAT on by Sega. That being said I had the choice to get either a Saturn or PS1 for christmas 96. I went with the Saturn... One of the best gaming decisions I've ever made.

[@BakiX]

@ModernVintageGamer it would wonderful if you kept some light shined on this project whenever theres a major update and possibly even create a "how to set up" video thag explains to those that are interested how to set up and enjoy the Saroo. Part of the problem with this device is that their isnt really a 1 stop reliable source for all info and set up method. But because you're a trust worthy channel with an audience that would help clearify that immensely lol. And with that clarity would hopefully mean more progress to make the Saroo the number 1 end all be all for Saturn owners.👍

[@5persondude]

I did a similar thing with my PS2; got a FreeMcBoot memory card, an MX4SIO memory card (Micro SD card adapter that plugs into the memory card slot), and loaded a cheap 512 GB Micro SD card with 100+ PS2 games. The solution isn’t perfect; it was a pain to set up, and some games either won’t load or won’t detect a 64 MB memory card. But that being said, roughly 95% of the games I’ve tested work either out of the box or with some tweaking. It’s really cool being able to replay all of my old favorites on original hardware again, even when taking some of its limitations into account.

[@winlover37]

I'm so glad I held on to my Saturn even if I haven't used it. This is what I've been waiting for.

[@WilliamAnderson-sc1sj]

Welcome back!

[@ramrodbldm9876]

​@WilliamAnderson-sc1sj who are you welcoming back? Are you the sega Saturn? Did you make the sega Saturn? Did you work for sega? I'll answer: no, no and NO. So no need for the welcome fanboy

[@winlover37]

@@ramrodbldm9876 Jesus... You gotta grab a coffee and chill out.

[@N7uy66u]

I only liked Panzler Dragoon saga but I'll try the old one's again after I receive it

[@MikeHunt-wl4ye]

@@N7uy66uLucky. Many of my belongings were lost into the nether of time. Much like a Bic lighter, there is little explanation for how things dematerialize when you live a transient life.

[@YabaiModding]

I went to Japan recently and picked up three Saturns. And as it turns out, it just so happened that the SAROO got good! Lucky!

[@pentexsucks43]

A TMS fan spotted in the wild??? Nice

[@skalt711]

Hey, Salamander Deluxe Pack emulates slowdown by default. It should be gone if you switch Wait Control in the options to Off.

[@ThatOldSchoolMagic]

I would love for someone to manufacture a high quality replacement to the SAT Cart connector. The day when people no longer need to deal with the Sat's old finicky connector. Saroo will be the best option available. If not one of the best on the market.

[@otherreality]

Only reason I don't own a saroo yet...that cart socket is ridiculously prone to failure. I've smashed 3 saturns due to this very reason lol.

[@ramrodbldm9876]

@@otherreality yea yea sure you have, I broke 20 of them, believe me? No? Good, cause no one believes you

[@otherreality]

@@ramrodbldm9876 you need something to chill you out...Why would I lie about sth like this, also, you must never owned a saturn because the you'd just knew.

[@alexharker7223]

You just have to get it seated properly and then never touch it again. I've had an Action Replay PseudoSaturn cart for years and made the mistake once of pulling it out to play around with the NetLink modem. It was such a pain to get the AR cart back in that I would never touch it again without good reason. Getting a Saroo, I think, would be a good reason. A replacement would be great though.

[@xargos]

​@@otherrealitySomeone who smashed gaming consoles telling someone else to chill? 😂 Seriously. Anyone who would smash a console has anger management issues.

[@X99Zero]

Looks amazing. Time to find a sega saturn.

[@WilliamAnderson-sc1sj]

First game you should play is BULK SLASH. Don’t ask questions.

[@TN_AU]

After this video, sellers are going to slap on the MVG tax and prices will skyrocket.

[@ramrodbldm9876]

@@WilliamAnderson-sc1sj kidgirl that's most definitely not the first game they should play, not even the second third or forth, maybe the 40th. Don't ask questions girl

[@SpiralPegasus]

​@@WilliamAnderson-sc1sjabsolutely correct. It's the best game on Saturn.

[@balaam_7087]

Thanks for posting this MVG! In particular, thanks for the link to the specific Saroo you purchased. I’ll feel much more confident when I eventually pick this up.

[@DiastoleRiven]

Perfect timing. I just picked up a Saturn in Akihabara!

[@Lancer142940]

Great timing! I just bought my first Saturn one week ago and was considering the Satiator. Think I’m leaning more towards the Saroo now. Much appreciated!

[@chap3l]

An in-progress compatibility list in KZbin with more than 400 games tested so far: ?list=PLmsMlzwbRlgLngxWI9ZzPK44Gix1Ek-ZO

[@VIRACYTV]

So if you buy a Saroo And you can’t play a certain game through the SD card, at least you can burn the game and run it through the disc Drive that way. So really this thing does have 100% compatibility!

[@chap3l]

No, it's doesn't have 100% compatibility, because there's no public list with 100% of games test recorded. You can read burnt CDs IF your Saturn is (chip) modded to do that. If your Saturn can't read burnt discs, SAROO won't read as well.

[@VIRACYTV]

@@chap3lSaroo lets you play burned games. It’s on their product description page and MVG says it in the video.

[@chap3l]

@@VIRACYTV No. It doesn't. I have SAROO since last October 2023 and had tested/recorded over 400 games. I have some original disks and a plenty of burnt CD-Rs and it doesn't boots the pirates since my Saturn is not modded. Also there's no thing about running CD-R discs on the github page, which is the official SAROO source of information.

[@AppNasty]

If the lead singer of Disturbed got heavily into gaming.

[@G1itcher]

😂

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Nintendo aren't ready when the glass shatters

[@terencehill2320]

I wonder what your thoughts are on the CD-R situation since some articles threw your name out there as someone who wholeheartedly loves LRG.

[@brandogg]

He works for them

[@alextirrellRI]

A word of warning to those interested -- apparently some of the carts sold on AliExpress do not have beveled edges, or may have a board that is too thick and this can cause damage to the cartridge connector pins. Granted I imagine most people will just leave the carts in, but I just wanted to mention it.

[@fink32]

There was a Saturn switcher released by wills console mods that allowed you to keep your disc drive and use the fenrir at the same time unfortunately it’s now out of print.

[@HedgehogY2K]

You mean the Saroo is the first product to allow retaining the disc drive and doesn't take up the VCD card slot! Dude, it's finally here. However my Action Replay Plus is already cut out to fit the Toslink mod that was installed on my V-Saturn. The Saroo would be a pretty good way not to waste 30 CDs on home made Cardcaptor Sakura X-VCDs, not to mention not being bogged down by 2x speed CDs and just using the Saturn's raw... Well, not bus width but a ROM speed of 20MB/s is less than half of the cartridge bus of 44 or 50. Assuming the VCD card is good enough, you can max out the 3500kbps that Mpeg-1 allows. Too bad ROM sizes aren't allowed past 700 megabytes.

[@softwarelivre2389]

Hey MVG! Could you please make a video about why video game emulators regularly require proprietary firmware to work? Like is it not possible to recreate a free and open source version of the firmware or something? Or there are other reasons? Thanks for the awesome work!

[@Somefurfag]

A tremendous amount of programming is knowing not to reinvent the wheel. If someone else has written some code that does what you want, then you need a very good reason to write your own. This is the case from standard C libraries to entire game engines. In the case of a console's BIOS, you could potentially write a new version, but it would certainly have compatibility issues and it is far, far easier to tell people to provide their own.

[@JamalTheTitan]

Symphony of the Night plays WAAAAAY better with this card. I picked mine up using your link to ali express. Thanks a bunch!

[@Storm_.]

I feel sorry for the guy who made the Satiator, since it's main selling point was the plug and play nature. That's the only thing that tried to justify it's price point. Now he'll either have to drop the price, or never sell a Satiator again :( Reason I feel sorry is because he was the pioneer and put so much work into his product. Thing is, even if he drops the price, the Saroo still has more features with the save games, action reply and 4mb.

[@nickwallette6201]

I don't think it's quite THAT simple. It's a really clean, elegant solution -- and apparently, just a hair more compatible. Maybe you know the reasons better than I do, but I would assume part of its expense is in the cost of parts, the custom case, etc. For things like this, it doesn't usually seem like the developer just wants to extract as much as possible from every unit sold. Ergo, while admitting ignorance to the production cost vs. price, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that the price isn't going to drop dramatically just because something else exists.

[@HugoBonami]

Within 24 hours of this video going live, a few sellers sold out and the price has increased by 15-30%.

[@CalvinTennessee]

Anyone else get super excited when you get that notification MVG has uploaded a new video?

[@gamedad7336]

Are you still working for limited run games? Maybe you can re-but what smash jt has been saying about limited run games selling 3do games on burnt cd-r disc's. Maybe not, but I'd love to hear someone who works for them to explain what's happening.

[@emmettturner9452]

“There are three ODEs… MODE, Satiator, and Fenrir” **Cries in Phoebe and Rhea**

[@WilliamAnderson-sc1sj]

I think he left them out on purpose due to them not being readily available for some time.

[@emmettturner9452]

@@WilliamAnderson-sc1sj …or, well, ever. ;)

[@ModernVintageGamer]

Afaik these are no longer available

[@emmettturner9452]

@@ModernVintageGamer …or, well, ever. ;) The way they were being distributed, no one could ever get one! You could be anticipating the next round and set your alarm and click the instant they become available and never get one.

[@rustymixer2886]

​@ModernVintageGamer I'm glad saroo exists now can keep my vcd card in back unit

[@WalrusFPGA]

Did the one you purchased and linked have a beveled edge to the cartridge connector, MVG?

[@LoneWolf1985BK]

Great video and amazing shirt 👍

[@Jokerwolf666]

They are developing a $99 clone board of the MiSTer FPGA, save your money. Great video though, it will be good for anyone who wants to use OG hardware.

[@Monhamd1000]

The Saroo is on its merry way to glory!

[@dnakatomiuk]

Saturn would have been awesome if it wasn't rushed and Sega America and Japan couldn't stop interfering with it's development

[@aurelios69]

Received mine last week. I'm loving it 😊

[@CorporalDanLives]

Just ordered, is there a way you can let us know what specific firmware version that one you linked to has?

[@Markimark151]

I wish my cousin still had their Saturn, because this is flash cart is cool. The system’s Achilles heel was their dual CPU that scared third party developers from making games in America!

[@MaxAbramson3]

It wasn't the 2 SuperH processors because most developers just ignored the second one. It was that typical black jack dealer memory management (SCU) and the difficulty in drawing images to the screen.

[@Markimark151]

@@MaxAbramson3 but it was still hard for American developers to make games on Saturn compared to the PlayStation and even N64! He bought the Saturn first, and barely played Saturn games and then got PlayStation and N64.

[@MaxAbramson3]

@@Markimark151 So many people trash the $160 32X or complain that the $50 SVP LockOn cart wouldn't have been "enough" to take on the PlayStation. Incredibly, most people don't realize that nearly all of the launch titles and first year PS1 (and contemporary PC games) were drawing 5-20,000 polygons per second, well within the range of the Sega CD+SVP. In fact, both the Sega CD and SVP were also capable of adding 3,000 Gauroud textured, shaded polgyons per second each. Third party developers and SoA already had 4-6 games developed fro the LockOn when SoJ canceled the anticipated plug in. Devs could've taken existing Sega CD and Genesis titles and added arcade sound and 3D scaled backgrounds (using the Sega CD) and the SVP LockOn to add up to 20,000 flat shaded polygons per second, or make 20fps versions of most of the late 90s AAA titles. Indeed, top selling games like FF7 and Resident Evil would've worked just fine on the Sega CD+SVP. All that horsepower in the Saturn was economically useless when 90% of devs couldn't get it all working, and most would just jump ship and go for PC and PS1, which were at least easier to develop games on.

[@chasesmay7237]

I’ve had a fenrir in my Saturn (which I’ve had since launch) for quite a while. The Saturn went from my least to most favorite vintage system. All the fantastic fan translations means I finally get to enjoy the library as it should have been (rather than how it ended up) There are some fantastic Japanese only games that make the console a whole different experience

[@ironmaiden5658]

To me the Saturn is so good I use one as the brains of a dedicated shooter arcade cabinet. Compared to other options for building an arcade cabinet this is one of the most easiest routes there is. All you need is an arcade cabinet shell. A gutted cabinet can be purchased extremely cheaply. You don't need a monitor. You don't need the wiring harness or coin door. In fact your don't even need a joystick or buttons. Literally just the shell of an arcade cabinet. Install a cheap color TV. Install the Saturn. Route the gun outside the cabinet, Boom, you now have an arcade cabinet that only plays shooting games. And for the Saturn there's a sizable catalogue of some of the best shooter games there is. In the same cabinet I also have a PS1 and a Nintendo Wii. All the 3 consoles do is play shooter games on an arcade cabinet. And seeing as I don't have the complete library of Saturn shooter games, this flash cart becomes extremely attractive. Cheers for the video(s) mate. QLD Aussieville. EDIT: I'll be getting the Black Elite 64gb from the seller you've recommended. $120 AU posted to my door, as you mentioned, is a no brainer.

[@lawrencecronin1949]

Hahaha, i did pretty much the same but set it up an arcade cabinet with a crt, saturn, Dreamcast and raspberry pi 3 for mame and final burn. All running via scart. Was looking at adding PS1 and OG xbox for the gun games too.

[@connorkiss2614]

As of writing the SAROO in the video is no longer available for sale :( Not sure what to do now!

[@Ifalvarado]

Man I wouldn't know about this device if it wasn't for your kickass channel and videos dedicated to this.. Many thanks and keep it up!

[@Big_Box_Customs]

Is there not also the GDEMU? Rhea and Phoebe? which was the first ODE?

[@andresbravo2003]

Sega Saturn would be 30 years old this year, and how we really played it rarely back then.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Wrong. We played it a lot.

[@spursdynasty7378]

Loved mine till the PlayStation 1 came out 😂 It was a bloody massacre after that. Still had some great games RIP

[@HSmasteryoda]

Watched 1 min in, quickly bought it via your link lol it's about to shoot up in prices I bet!

[@torchy33]

you forgot about Rhea and Phoebe the first Saturn ODE's

[@ramrodbldm9876]

Are they available right now? No, they're not clown

[@torchy33]

@@ramrodbldm9876 thats irrelevant feck nugget

[@nickwallette6201]

@@ramrodbldm9876 That was rude and unnecessary. They exist, and will probably be produced again in the future. IMO, it's worth mentioning, even with the caveat that they are not currently for sale anywhere. Not everyone is fully plugged in to the retro modding scene, and may find references to Rhea and Phoebe, and not have the context for why they seem to be mentioned elsewhere, and absent from this list. It just seems needlessly passive-aggressive to leave them out in spite.

[@NotIT]

You can have both ODE and Optical with Fenrir. I have a Fenrir and my original optical drive installed in the same machine using Will's Console Mods Saturn Switcher. Works great!

[@AmyZonkers]

A problem with playing games off a cart is that the Saturn cart connector gets worn out really easily, so if you're going the Saroo route you should put it in the cart slot and never take it out.

[@randybutternubs1209]

I already have a Satiator with a SD card that contains the entire Saturn library. Since the Satiator occupies the video CD card slot, it prevents me from using that slot as intended for higher quality FMVs. Using the Satiator also makes 4Mb RAM games a little bit of a hassle because I can’t plug my action replay cartridge in until the game is booting. I think when the SAROO is commercial ready, I will get one just for these types of games

[@TexasHollowEarth]

Yeah.... the MODE is the way to go. I use a Victor V3 VCD card in mine. VCD-compatible games work great. It's run everything I've thrown at it, including homebrew.

[@chap3l]

SAROO it's not compatible with VCD Card yet.

[@randybutternubs1209]

@@chap3l good to know, I will wait until it is

[@lookitskazzy]

What games that have MPEG video are you actually going to play? None of them are in English, and there's a fan translation of Lunar that has the FMV replaced with re encoded versions that look just as good as the MPEG version. Seems like a weird thing to get hung up on

[@MrCallmevader]

when i watch your videos on old games it makes me wish i could time travel

[@eightbit1975]

I have owned the Satiator for around a year and right now it is still the creme of the crop device (in my humble opinion) because it's compatibility is near 100%, its a modless solution (like the Saroo), but most importantly is the menu. I use Satiator Rings and with the speed and ease of navigating multiple folders, screenshots and so on it is just awesome. I have a fairly large collection of Saturn dumps on a 512GB SD card in mine, organized with A-Z and multidisc folders. When I first saw the Saroo I was excited, but then I saw the menu system. Ugh. I mean it would be great for someone throwing a few dozen games on it I suppose, but that menu system is no good at all for a large curated collection. When the menu system meets up with the "everdrive standard" I will jump on the bandwagon, but as it stands now it just could not handle my collection. Also, I think you are spot on that they need to provide an option to slow the games down to their normal load speeds. This has to be causing at least some the various compatibility issues I have been reading about. Thanks for the review...always dig your videos!

[@maurooliveira984]

The problem of CD media made by sega , not only with saturn but with dreamcast and sega cd is the fact they worn out by themselves, even if you keep a new one sealed in the case

[@corgibuttz2550]

It does seem awesome for the price, but I already have a MODE installed in mine, and the slowdown issue would drive me crazy. If I was on a real tight budget and didn't have a MODE though, I'd probably go for it.

[@WarioSaysSo]

Awesome timing! I discovered this a week or so agao on there when looking around and got very curios, but not much covering. Thank you my good Sir. for making this video and as always, great covering 👍

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Videos about saroo are really old now. Also vmg did it for himself, for money. Not for you.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Stop simping.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Get out, touch grass and make real friends.

[@WarioSaysSo]

@@suprememasteroftheuniverse Wow, someone really stepped on your toes apperently (!) So hey why all this dish-out?

[@fantasticdavidson1179]

Either playstation are n64 saturn was never part of any conversation

[@StooCambridgeArtist]

What a fantastic cart! Great review! I'll be getting one of these for sure!

[@RN25899]

GREAT! Now can someone please make an HDMI-out mod for Saturn??

[@DeathInTheSnow]

How does it compare with the PAL/NTSC versions of the console? Can I play any version of the software on any console (barring Golden Axe)?

[@chap3l]

VA0 boards does have some audio issues for now.

[@JRock424]

Saroo is compatible with PAL Saturns. However, NTSC games doesn't magically run perfectly on PAL. You would still have to mod the Saturn for 60HZ mode.

[@crazedlunatic43]

Too bad Saturns themselves can be fairly pricey themselves (Unless you were to go for a Japanese model)

[@gamecubeplayer]

the japanese saturn models are 100v 50/60hz so you need either a 115v to 100v step-down transformer or a 230v to 100v step-down transformer

[@SlickEd91]

Cool option but I'll keep on using my satiator 😊

[@PH96Official]

The f*** DRM shirt broke me 😂

[@krazycharlie]

FCK DRM. Best message on a t-shirt ever.

[@lifespanofafry1534]

Why did this brown substance come out of my bottom?

[@skins4thewin]

RIP Satiator lol

[@Interlocutor_]

Will this work on a Japanese Saturn?

[@EnigmaHood]

Is it region free? Meaning you can play Japanese games on a US Saturn?

[@RetroGamerBB]

That loading speed makes me wish Sega released some games on carts

[@randomhajile]

you see the cd-driveless "slim"saturns for sale? with this cart makes them the sega-JUPITER!!!

[@ehsanghazavi470]

Will the Saroo work on a Japanese Saturn and play games from NA region?

[@Shamakitoh809]

Sarro skip the boot bios after selecting the game, it goes directly in to the game, so it should work on any Saturn not matter what region.. I have an USA saturn and it plays JP and Eu games with saroo, not problem.

[@pinkace]

They only sell it on Ali Express?

[@kevinwoolford123]

so could i use my mode and the saroo as a ram/save cart to save all my games and not have to sway out my ram cart and delete saves all the time?

[@aussiedrumnerd]

The guy with that particular Ali express listing that mvg mentioned has hit the jackpot. It went from 32 sold to over 700 sold in a day haha.

[@AllieRX]

I have a couple of questions about this thing: 1) How do multi-disc games like Panzer Dragoon Saga work on this thing? Like how do you swap discs with this when the game prompts you to do it? 2) Does this thing support the compressed CHD files or only the regular BIN/CUE files?

[@mundomakina1980]

Great.........

[@esppiral]

This will come in handy to test my mods without having to burn dozens of disks, thanks for the hards up!

[@dapperfan44]

It's very true that Saturn games are way too expensive now. I don't think I'll ever play my Sonic Jam again. I was 15 when i paid around $15-$16 for it from ebay in 2005. Now? There's no way I could justify spending $200 to replace it if something bad happened to it.

[@videogameobsession]

I'm not sure I'd recommend paying $60 -$100 to play the Saroo lottery. And then have only a 75% compatibility and possible bricked cart if you try to flash it to the newest FW. If you are a big fan of the Saturn you'll probably be better off with one of the other, better solutions. I suppose if you just want to play the "popular stuff" you could give it a try.

[@SolidSonicTH]

Actually I think it was kind of the fault of the games. I've never been able to point to a "killer app" game for the platform. NiGHTS kind of had that possibility but it never really made that kind of splash that would move consoles.

[@NeonEUC]

Love your content.. got any Amiga CD32 vids coming up by any chance ? Or any Amiga vids really

[@itchyisvegeta]

10:00 - Wait, the Action Replay makes the Saturn be able to play CDR disks? I know it makes my Saturn play Japan disks which is why I got it. But have I been able to play CDRs this whole time and not know it?

[@8bitwidgets]

so is this effectively an ODE solution without having to open up the system? I just got a Saturn and looking to be able to play all games from a usb device. In case it matters this is going to be a Japanese Saturn (friend bought while on vacation recently for me) and Japanese light gun.. if that makes any difference. i'm big on playing virtua cop and others.. I have a 32" CRT to play it on.

[@DavedeSade]

What about games requiring 1 / 4 MB RAM expansion? What about Panzer Dragoon Saga - will it run? Including backup of RAM saves?

[@chrisa6120]

------ FCK DRM ------ 😂 Nice MVG nice...

[@karoo_bushman6880]

Can it run 50Hz and 60Hz (PAL, NTSC-U, NTSC-J) all correctly?

[@JRock424]

Saroo can run both PAL and NTSC games. It does not Run NTSC games perfectly on a PAL Saturn.

[@karoo_bushman6880]

@@JRock424 Does it do the same as a physical 50/60Hz switch? That mod is also 99% correct speed..

[@ShindlerReal]

Can you post a link to Aliexpress seller that you purchased from?

[@supersat]

Can it boot CD-Rs? My experience with the Pro Action Replay is that it will let you play games from other regions (since the BIOS normally does that check), but the CDB will not let you access the data track until it has authenticated the security ring.

[@rockhyde7775]

“Saturn games don’t come cheap.” Well, that’s true, mostly for Western Saturn games but fortunately for Japanese games, it’s a different story. They’re not as expensive at Western ones, like they want to please weebs or something. I always thought price hikes were done in retro games because f*ck you. I always thought Saturn games being more expensive in the west was because of asshole sellers who have zero regards for you or your budget. No wonder piracy is so rampant in the retro gaming space but I’m all here for it. It’s also why I don’t buy retro games anymore, well most of the time.

[@DingoYabuki]

Awesome video! What a nice coincidence that I just bought a Saturn ^^ Definitely buying one of these!

[@Jdbye]

$90 isn't all that cheap. It's reasonable, but it's really not cheap. I imagine the Cyclone IV accounts for most of it. If it could be simplified to run on a Raspberry Pi Pico, it'd get way cheaper.

[@kawaineko7402]

I would love to pick this up but I’m afraid of messing up the Saturn’s cartridge slot. Hopefully a high quality cartridge slot replacement hits the market.

[@volvo09]

Have they gotten brittle with age or something? I saw another comment about wishing for a replacement connector also....

[@KrashyKharma]

Does its ability to boot into burnt discs mean that if a game won't run off the Saroo itself, it'll run off the burnt disc? or does it have to be compatible with the Saroo to run? Cuz if it's the former, then that's essentially 100% compatibility in a way right? I've always wanted a Satiator and I still kinda do, but if this is really that good then I'm gonna probably have to just go with the Saroo instead. I don't mind burning some discs if I have to 🤷

[@chap3l]

It will run your burnt discs if you Saturn is chip modded. Otherwise no.

[@KrashyKharma]

@@chap3l he said in the video that the saroo will allow you to run burnt discs, which it's presumably able to do due to its ability to circumvent the CD block

[@chap3l]

@@KrashyKharma It won't. If your Saturn doesn't runs pirate CDs, SAROO it won't run (my saturn for example).

[@DisasterMillennial]

regardless of the price of the ODEs, when you compare their prices to the price of Saturn games, you're saving a fortune lmao. I'm very intrigued by the Saroo even though i have a Satiator but the thought of bricking it does seem a bit scary... also developments on the Saturn core on mister fpga are also looking promising but again, price (though de-10 clones are starting to show up)

[@itchyisvegeta]

Any chance this device can back up disks to the SD card? Guess it's just as easy to do that on my PC, but was curious cause it would be a convenient feature.