Modified Cruise Comps Strategy

[@m0pedted]

It’s nice to see that all Strategies are not always a winner! I appreciate the video!

[@allennewhausen2541]

I'm very impressed by the fact that you created a strategy that went a full 20 throws without winning any money on a single one of them, even by accident. Yeah, I know 8 of that is because it took 9 rolls to set a point, but it's still very funny.

[@cowboyvalley]

ANY strategy takes some good rolls of the dice. All CAN win and ALL CAN lose.

[@TB_thunderbug]

This strategy is good for its intended purpose...to earn comps with little risk. Are you going to win much? Probably not. Are you going to lose much? Probably not. This was a nightmare roll out and you still had a loss that was small in comparison to your average bet. You only lost about 1.5x average bet. Looking at comparative comp value, it is the same as playing the standard for 6 times longer and ending down about $50. If you're playing smart, the comp value balances out over longer sessions to make up for the losses on nightmares like this one. Great content and a good modification to a comp building strategy that was already strong.

[@ScottSlimm]

I'm doing the same waiting for Point and using DC to start my action. The reason I use this is because of what you or Holy Roll[r] stated. There is a difference between Casino Players and Cruise Craps Players!(same with Blackjack). You can explain that I win and lose on the SAME bet you do. You don't want a 7 when you are on and I don't want a 7 on my DC Bets. It keeps the MOJO of the table vs people saying aim playing against them!

[@thekochdieselskils5506]

Yeah… Big Red loves my DP and DC too. For someone like me who believes in math, it’s almost weird. The “Cold Table” by Crappy is the only hedging strategy that doesn’t kill me all the time. I like Brian’s modification on that one. The idea is good, though. Big bets, big comps, low risk. Can you rollout some other “Good Comp” strategies?

[@ColorUp]

I will be doing more as I liked my cruise and want to win more free.

[@iptvclub1575]

The power of the DC is you could win 100% of your bet on a come out 7. Going through the DP you never have that opportunity. So keep your bets off on the come out when dc established and just hop the dc number if you want to hedge.

[@ErnieMayberry]

I agree with this 100%. This is where the power of the 7 is finally on your side as a Don't bettor AND you don't lose to the 2 or 3. This helps make up for the 7/11 loses on the DC. I think you lost about 3 $100 wins but not letting your bets be off on the comeout.

[@zak2934]

I had the same issue with the original strategy. Multiple 7/11s that wipe out all profit and then some. This is a good way to limit the multiple 7 situation. I've had more luck just being random. sometimes using the DC, then other times going with the DP. I also limit myself to 2 losses, then I sit out the entire point. Also, I swear that once a 2 or 3 is rolled the dice are mandated to roll a 7. LOL.

[@SoarviverForever]

“See a horn, bet a horn” enjoyers seething haha

[@SchemeTintFocus]

World, or my fave, press the craps on the come out

[@slloyd9892]

LOL table like that kill you slowly on a cruise, that's when you take a break after couple hits and jump in the pool. Brutal.

[@user-we6zu3no9o]

Enjoyed meeting you and getting to roll with you on the cruise, hope you had a good time as well.

[@ColorUp]

Great time. Looking forward to my next 🚢

[@Twinsen764]

Omg those horn numbers for the ATC, I kept being more shocked on every roll until the 8.

[@chrismccarty3738]

I have been rolling something similar out that has been working well. It’s a 90 DC with 86 across at the time the DC is placed. This way when the DC moves it is your first hit. I don’t hedge the point right off. I also combine this with running with the bulls. It has been working well on my table. Sometimes if I am down I go to a 125 DC with 106 across 15/20/18/18/20/15.

[@IMove2Earn]

What’s Running with the Bulls??

[@MaxGrey03]

That scares me as the downside on that one roll is the entire budget for the shooter (in this case, 90+86)

[@chrismccarty3738]

@@IMove2Earn see a horn bet 10 in field and 10 horn high yo.

[@ColorUp]

So one roll is $176 risk to 7 correct?

[@chrismccarty3738]

@@ColorUp scared money don't make none

[@MaxGrey03]

While simulating the Light in the Darkness strategy for myself, I also discovered the issue with multiple come-put 7's. As I have spent more time at it, however I find the bigger issue to be the establishment of a point, then the point hits on the next roll. I believe that frustrates me much more.

[@holyrollr]

I feel your pain…some people use $110 but go high on the point…hopping the point on the first roll can also help 😁🎲🎲

[@MaxGrey03]

I have considered that, but then I get the FOMO from hitting the number that I skipped (LOL). I will have to play with it, maybe high on the point, but lowering the others? might try.@@holyrollr

[@ColorUp]

I mixed it up on cruise. Sometimes fully covered point completely, sometimes left uncovered and hitting point right back burnt me.

[@cowboyvalley]

Jeremy, on a come out, only turn on the number your DC is on!

[@GATOWN]

Doesn’t effect the odds

[@MaxGrey03]

I was thinking that and also I might up the place bet to 3x ($75, in this example) to completely cover the DC, at least until the main game's point is established. Summarized: on roll after the DC if the puck is off, just place the DC point for an amount to cover the DC.

[@cowboyvalley]

@@GATOWN Not trying to effect the odds. Trying to cover the DC money. Instead of putting the entire bet on the line. This is to collect points for free cruises, not to win the money to pay off the mortgage.

[@GATOWN]

@@cowboyvalley But what does the puck being on or off have to do with how you play when you’re betting the DC. Same odds whether the puck is on or off. If you want comps, you want that $200 average bet

[@cowboyvalley]

@@GATOWN If there is a come out roll....after you have a DC established (because the point has been hit) turn on that place bet (which would be normally off) on. That covers your DC because the DC IS ALWAYS ON.

[@dnarobo]

And I am not convinced the box would rate DC & Place together...it seems easier for them to see and just the net the two. DP & Place seems more likely to get the desired rate, less obvious? I guess some box are going to be set one way or the other anyway.

[@ColorUp]

🤷‍♂️you could be right. they seemed to rate the dp/place this trip for sure. I didnt try a DC. For one session I played a Lay bet, then built up a place bet to hedge it. That didn’t seem to get rated very well. I don’t think it’s about how they notice it or not. I think it’s just if they consider them cancelled bets or not.

[@sltintexas]

This is definitely an advanced strategy most cruisers couldn't follow from my experience. Make sure you aren't enjoying the free booze during this.

[@ColorUp]

you have to understand game well to attempt this for sure

[@arlenestanton9955]

I could see doing this if I get knocked off the dp by a 7 and go to the dc for 1 series, then back to the dp.

[@ColorUp]

Agreed.

[@ScottSlimm]

9:52 I leave place off during come out when my DC is established. I WANT the table to hit the 7 on comeout for the same reason dont want to play against the table where my loss impacts the table MoJo. I celebrate there 7 on the comeout.

[@ColorUp]

I get it. More risk but also more reward.

[@miker6402]

Just before the 10:00 point in the video when the point(8) is hit and you say you want to turn your bets on because you alteady have a DC on the 6 and you have $110 on the inside, shouldn't you just say to the dealer you only want to turn on the 6 where your DC and hedge bet are, this way if you do roll a 7 you only lose the hedge bet and can make a profit on the $100 DC? Your thoughts.

[@ColorUp]

Yep, sounds correct

[@nickwolf805]

My strategy for light in the darkness is when I set a 100 don't pass bet, if a 6 or 8 come out I either move my don't pass to don't come or change it too 110 place on the inside.

[@MurderMostFowl]

I would not recommend moving your DP… you already passed the hard part. 7’s are still more common than 6/8 why would you take away your earned edge? ( and then also have no hedge… you literally would have been better off not betting the line and just placing 110 in the first place ) Moving to the DC is also not recommended… you are forcing yourself to have to go through avoiding the 7,11 AGAIN after you already passed that trial.

[@PoloDonch517]

Cover the Arnold

[@RobertLipson-yu6kl]

There is no difference between 3 consecutive 7 thrown on the DP comeout & 3 consecutive DC (comeout) 7 thrown by 3 different shooters. Agree?

[@ColorUp]

agree. mathematically same chance odds. This is just a mental trick so you don't lose multiple come out rolls to "one shooter" which seems to hurt more than if it happens from different shooters.

[@BlueKaspar-bc9mj]

Would you consider putting $100 on the don't. Then either lay $100 on 4 and 10, or $200 on either 4/10. That way the only number that really hurt you is the yo 11

[@ColorUp]

I experimented with no DP and using a Lay bet instead.

[@slack3695]

If you played the original strategy with the same rolls, what would have been the outcome? And possibly go to the original video and flip it using the Batman strategy.

[@cowboyvalley]

Looking back after the fact is always good. Craps or not.

[@MaxGrey03]

For what it's worth, I played along with my take on the Light in the Darkness strategy and made $136 -- I realize that this is not proof of anything. I do find it interesting that playing a similar strategy on the same dice rolls but one number out of synch makes a huge difference in outcome.

[@ColorUp]

One roll of dice can make a big difference in strategy comparisons sometimes

[@rdderrick75]

We need ur cruise report!!! What happened?!?

[@ColorUp]

I’m still traveling home, stay tuned !

[@butch14ful]

WOW! I consider all these bets using the don't come or don't pass as HEDGE Bets. Okay when the dice roll your way But a disaster as we just witnessed when Mr. 7 has his own agenda!

[@cowboyvalley]

And that would be true of ANY strat!

[@shanelee848]

Real strategy: invite alone your prop and string betting friends to inflate the time between rolls and lessen your actual risk per hour while you still get the good rating

[@holyrollr]

😂 - the faster the table moves, the more points you’ll get 😊 - but cruise craps tables definitely move a lot slower.

[@shanelee848]

@@holyrollrthey don't rate you just based on time passing?

[@holyrollr]

@@shanelee848 I’m pretty sure that the “average” bet and “average” time gets “average” points…but in my experience I’ve noticed that a faster table yields more points per hour and a slower table yields less points per hour…even with the same bet amounts.

[@ColorUp]

We use “points per hour” as an estimate. But on the ship, they actually track each roll, and so technically its points per roll. A slow table doesn’t help, at least on the cruise ship I was on. They had a sensor to note time of each roll.

[@nsharma99]

Free cruise… $396 cruise

[@TWardlawYT]

You could’ve just bet the horn🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ColorUp]

On this roll, yep

[@clueless9245]

All that hedging, but lost over half the bankroll. You would think it would no longer surprise me for your rolls to be a "gamble responsibly" ad. And keeping up with the bets on or off would mess me further. The inability to see the table would have me using memory. I would have to simulate this tons in advance for my memory to do the work. I would need the cruise for all that mental functioning in advance!

[@ChooChooPapa]

Would have made close to 1000 in just those 12 rolls of 2,3 on DP

[@ProxyXIV]

I imagine this strategy does a lot better when Jeremy isn't rolling 😏

[@ColorUp]

Of course it does

[@jeffreygillispie8780]

Can you please make a video about a comment i saw on tiktok. It had a bunch of likes and someone was wanting the poster of the comment to break it down so a 5th grader could understand it, but the original poster of the comment never did...... It looks simple enough, but I'm so relatively new to craps that I simply cant figure it out. Can you make a video based around this comment please? Thanks a bunch! Here's the exact comment to the T: "$25 dont pass..hop the 7 for $6 and $2 "yo 11" on the come out roll..wait for the 7 and repeat ALL NIGHT"

[@ColorUp]

Explaining a bet from the comments

[@jeffreygillispie8780]

@@ColorUp thank you so much Color Up!!!

[@liudizzle]

Hedging strategies sound great in theory but almost always a complete disaster in real life

[@ColorUp]

Worked fine. It accomplished its purpose. didn’t lose much, didn’t win much, but earned lots of time at table and enough points for free cruise.

[@Listener827]

When the strat you’re using pays you hundreds less than a 3 point Molly, you got a non-working strat. The anxiety over the DP and instead using the DC is just anxiety. Lost as much & more than last time. Roll it out, no camera, using the Lay 4 or 10 for same $$ as the DP on c/o roll, as I shared at most you’ll lose 1/2 of what you Have lost with 7’s on DP or DC shots. Then you can roll it out with camera. And yes, you’re right, it’s not worth a Yo bet on the C/O. Know it wasn’t the strategy you’re showing, but on those rare c/o whenever you get 7’s or horns on c/o, play the horn & hop 7’s $10 each. After 2nd winner, press each to $25. Wins once press each to $50, then to $100 each. It’s rare, but these high energy starts wouldda got you over $16k Ya gotta play the rare opportunities when the table gifts them to you..A $16k color up is exactly what you need Jeremy.

[@ColorUp]

Just how this dice roll sequence worked out. If done other rolls where 3 point Molly got crushed, and this hedge system did awesome. It always just depends on how the dice roll and there particular sequence

[@thekochdieselskils5506]

The system works as designed. Its entire purpose is to collect points for a free cruise or other comps by 1) maximizing the money on the table, 2) staying at the table for the longest period of time possible, and 3) doing it with a minimal bankroll. Its not the best “money maker” but its not designed to be. The 3-point Molly works well if you have a large bank roll and a short window of time. You will win big ALMOST as many times as you lose big. But… you don’t get ANY credit for odds bets in any casino I’ve ever heard of. Consequently, the 3-Point Molly is a “non-working strat” for comps and/or free cruises. If you have a nail, you need a hammer… if you have a screw, you need a screwdriver. Both work well if used as designed, and the reverse is equally true.

[@kilrathi827]

I guess this works psychologically? But jeez, this just feels like a 'How To Make A Dealer Hate You In One Easy Step' system. :-/

[@ColorUp]

I tip as I play. Dealers don’t care how I play.

[@kilrathi827]

Fair enough, I usually do as well cause I like to put the dealers on the table too. It just feels like having things at different stages with the puck is going to confuse dealers and potentially lead to a higher frequency of errors. On my side as well.

[@cowboyvalley]

@@ColorUp Exactly! And cruise dealers are friendlier than most casinos.

[@alvinthecat8426]

too many parts.

[@bc4evernow]

Kind of lame. To much standing around.

[@LanceOBleness]

That modification sucks! Too much work for very little gain. However, twice you got knocked off by turning on your bests on the come out. Stop doing that!! Also, this is almost identical to Kerry's strategy that everyone loves to try with the $75 don't after the point is set except you don't have any protections like a come bet or odds.

[@katmanfoo9404]

the yo will make you cry all day long LUL