Modrons Inevitables & Cosmic Law: Monsters in 5e Dungeons & Dragons - Web DM

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[@WebDM]

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[@rhysjonsmusic]

Web DM I kinda imagine the modron as similar to the creations of the anti spiral from gurren lagann

[@TardisPilot2004]

Web DM I made a Modron PC race for my Homebrew, took away axiomatic mind, gave +2 to int, javelin proficiency, and then with each of the subtypes of Modron (Monodrone, Duodrone, etc.), and assigned each of them a +1 to a certain stat other than int, and proficiency with whatever weapon they used other than a javelin. For Tridrone I gave it a third hand, so that it could wield one more hand’s worth of weapons or shields, while of course making it unable to get an AC boost from fore than one shield.

[@digunder14]

jorphdan covered them very well in detail with some stuff u guys didn't mention in a video involving them and their realm kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y16Tnaimmc6apqc

[@digunder14]

the march is likely so that primus is forced to use energy from the pool he is atop of to make new monodromes and upgrade them to replace the lost ones so that it dosnt overload and expload or something

[@abelemiliano4067]

instablaster.

[@Jpteryx]

I like to imagine that Modrons are so orderly, they know all their own stats and can calculate others'. In-character: "HOW MANY REMAINING HIT POINTS DO YOU HAVE?"

[@MiningwithPudding]

I know what I'm doing as a "random" encounter for my party next time we play! Random Modron just shows up, asking Meta questions, confusing the characters.

[@CyberGhost14]

META af man. I love it!

[@stephenclements6158]

So Hit Points as a concept is real in the D&D world, because the Modrons came up with it? You just blew my mind.

[@rileymitchell3510]

I love it, will roleplay in my Modrons

[@fishapiller]

Akav Akaku hi other toa

[@Fuyutsuru]

Now imagine the PC's trying to seduce someone, only to hear a noise and see a Modron through the window just staring and takin notes.

[@mielliot13]

Brilliant, I should do this next time they actively seek out succubi. A modron studying abberant behavior of player characters

[@Hawdkoah]

My dad actually illustrated the cover of the Great Modron March. I've been meaning to run it for him and my brother one of these days.

[@JPruinc]

Really?! That's awesome.

[@Hawdkoah]

Yeah, his name is RK Post. He's mostly known for MtG, but he got his start in illustration over at TSR and did a couple Planescape and Red Steel illustrations. I didn't get into D&D until I was already an adult, but he had all kinds of books from 3e and 2e that I would look at when I was little. He eventually gave me a bunch of books and box sets he had in storage, most of which was for AD&D. I still bust out my Ravenloft DM screen from time to time.

[@MindFeather]

your dad is awesome. i have his book, and a couple of his prints. he's illustrated battle mats for some of my friends. i've just started picking up systems that he's illustrated like Alternity, things from 15 or 20 years ago. he totally blows my mind.

[@duchessedeberne3909]

How did the adventure go? :)

[@spiritchannels]

His art WAS excellent. I'm huge into planescape and had the MM. Also, I really dug Red Steel, wish it got more play.

[@TheNerdySimulation]

I just like the idea of Modrons that just have to do the basic tasks because they need to test if there any new laws of physics or alterations to the preexisting laws of physics. So you have a Modron that just goes around, slapping people in the face with a fish, a Modron that places hats on heads, a Modron that blasts a loud horn in your ear, and so on and so forth. And then of course, the Inevitables are a great way to scare your players at higher levels, just by having them suddenly show up, and ominously stare at the Characters the whole time they're doing their powerful stuff. Doesn't talk or interact, just watches. Players will probably never become more paranoid about every single one of their actions than when an Inevitable just shows up and observes you.

[@JPruinc]

Baba Yaga...

[@Bluecho4]

"[He] just stood there and watched. It would always make everyone uncomfortable whenever he would just stand there. And watch."

[@TheNomnomnommer]

ooh! or a modron that dresses up as santa clause and gives cheap stuff to poor kids, and really cool shit to the rich ones

[@TheNerdySimulation]

Perfect!

[@MiningwithPudding]

Or one that just jumps up and down, testing gravity

[@mikegould6590]

Sounds like a musical tour: "Tuesday at Web DM's, and Thursday at The Pruit: 10000 Modrons Arcanic Mechanic The Inevitables The Legends" "Pegging a Centuar"...now the top of all Google searches. This episode was solid gold.

[@JPruinc]

Mike Gould Thank you sir!

[@Shykk07]

I wish all d&d KZbin channels had the same quality of conversation as WebDM. As much as I love the other guys, Jim and Pruit bring such good thought and inspiration to the table.

[@piggu-sama9180]

You know these were just invented so some guy could use dice as minis, right?

[@ricardoarancibia6611]

That is actually prety smart

[@Jacob-qr8pl]

In that case, I should just run cubic modron campaigns!

[@antimonyneamhan9824]

Duodecadron. Sit there while I roll 20 attacks.. Uh... Can I borrow your d20?

[@m4y013]

That happen once when primus get killed and replaced by one of ruler of hell. they doing march early to search his missing staff after find it he just go away. some modrons get corrupted after that ,and then one of them challenge other modrons who choosed to be next primus so he can be next primus

[@adventuringwolf8517]

One of the universe rules modrons promote is that Pruit's puns make others recoil.

[@JPruinc]

I'm bound by the same rules as everyone else!

[@kster809]

An interesting idea for a late-game scenario would be the modrons specifically requesting the PCs (being such powerful beings, assuming they are neutral or lawful) help escort them through the chaotic planes, as those lands contain the beings most dangerous to them, such as the slaad

[@Dyrivids]

I love Inevitables. It kills me they haven't been brought to 5e yet. Thanks for covering them.

[@Darknight4434]

Now they are :)

[@brecoldyls]

Favorite line at the end: "What was the cops one called?" "It was called COPS, C-O-P-S." "Oh that's right!"

[@JPruinc]

'The COPS Realization'. It'll be the name of my first album.

[@brecoldyls]

JPruInc 😆

[@taylorKH55]

Love how the modron's Lord is named Primus. Which also happens to be the name of Transformer's God and Creator.

[@tutrya1]

The first thing I can think of with the Modrons is someone wanting some the information that the Modrons are collecting. Like oh say the number of soldiers in this other country or perhaps some sort arcane secrets. Not only do have to get access but now need to think of how this information is organized.

[@JPruinc]

Totally. There are all sorts of adventures to be had. Imagine being assigned to guard the Modron March. Primus sends out a call for adventures to guard his children on their journey. Now you and your party are traveling with this force through the planes with one goal....Get that info back to Mechanus!

[@andreasbuehler1821]

That's more or less the Great Modron March adventure path, minus the big secret behind everything.

[@JPruinc]

Andreas Buehler Yuuuup. Just found the PDF the other day. Read a little and was like, "Well, there it is." I really wanna play this adventure.

[@ZenodudeMC]

Something I like was the rouge modron. One of my players who was a chaotic neutral warlock found a duo drone running from other modrons hunting it recruited it as his assistant. It made for a pretty interesting character

[@william2187]

damn web dm with that deep knowledge, glad they they deterred me from pegging a centaur before it was to late

[@JPruinc]

We're just doing the good work. Glad to be of service.

[@RyanDotEXE]

This was one of my favorite intros yet.

[@JPruinc]

Glad you were entertained.

[@devonsimpson7122]

Hey thanks for this! Modrons (and their related ilk) were one of those monsters in the MM that I could never really find a place for. The whole idea of a "benign" invasion force that is looking for things out of place is such a (dare I say) nifty idea! More to use as a way to challenge players in a new way. And if they try to murderhobo their way through 10,000 modrons, it may break them of that habit.

[@filippocataldo3275]

Small tip for an adventure: The party has to defend a modron and help it to find an artifact.

[@edstevens1503]

Modrons are one of my favorite creatures from 1st ed, MM2. I love the ordered ideals they have.

[@ZenodudeMC]

9:00 they come back looking like the survey corps after a bad expedition

[@JPruinc]

Eren!!! *gasp*

[@TheWasteOfTime]

I've actually never heard of modrons before and they've kinda captured my imagination. They seem like less obviously malevolent versions of the Auditors from Discworld.

[@patrickthoma5320]

This was a really great episode - gave me tons of fun ideas to use at my own table!!! As always, thank you guys so much!!! You're the best DnD channel out there if ya ask me, and all the guys at my table feel the same!!!

[@JPruinc]

Appreciate the support. Tell your table Hi!

[@MrSteveyboywonder]

Very happy you guys do what you do and please keep it up I love all the content, you make me think about new concepts and ways to make the game fun all the time keep going

[@JPruinc]

MrSteveyboywonder Appreciate the support.

[@elib6465]

a player that I dm for got reincarnated as an aasimar. now the person who brought him back has brought back 2 other people cheating death 3 times. So when the player came back as an aasimar I gave him an inevitable guide but he came out and said I'm your guide and I'm watching your group to make sure you don't overreach.

[@EmethMatthew]

My idea for using modrons has been to use them as an in-game way to poke at dice-fudging and meta-gaming or even just those game mechanics that allow for messing with the basic game rules, like the Lucky feat... So the party begins attracting modron attention because they keep getting away with stuff that doesn't make logical sense. (Though now that I've listened to the episode, that's possibly more of an Inevitable role than a Modron one) I also like the idea of modrons observing a battle, running some calculations, and then telling the leaders the statistical results ("according to our calculations, your side will lose 24.7% of your troops and your opponents will lose 82.5% of their troops...") and trying to get them to allow the modrons to immediately vaporize the troops that would die so they could more efficiently resolve the battle. I think there was a Star Trek episode about that...

[@arax20]

Whenever I think of a modron I think of claptrap

[@misledflyer68]

Chantapat Sheanakul oh my god you are so right

[@jezebelmei195]

Claptrap is too chaotic

[@beneteus3833]

Take the LAWTRAP instead

[@methodofinstruction1368]

Can't get the Denver theme out of my head now. Thanks Jim 😋

[@JPruinc]

He only sings it just for a couple of seconds but it's just enough...

[@maromania7]

Now I wanna put them in to complicate justice, for irony's sake. like the modrons are known to just swoop in every once in a while and start going crazy, moving things around and cluttering streets and chucking EXACTLY 3 starfish at people to make sure gravity's affecting them correctly. but due to that, a crime wave has sprung up. People are stealing things and running before the owner figures out it's not just the duodron that's been stacking things on the dog. thugs are getting away in the madness caused when pentadrons decide to count everyone's hair RIGHT NOW. now the adventurers are being asked to help hunt down criminals, and figure out which cases actually ARE just the modrons rolling them under the bed.

[@dgmisal1979]

This screams for an Elric and Moorcock style campaign...

[@JLmusicBase]

Hey! Yeah you! Really you guys who make these vids. I love what you guys do with these videos. I am an armature DM, having run part of"mines of phandelver" and a mix of my own custom campaigns, playing with D&D 3.5 and recently 5th edition. But I really love to run custom campaigns and I draw from, of course, the quality sources I see, basically YOU'RE IT! Your videos help me make an immersive world for my players. Thank you

[@devinedwards3073]

I love the dynamic between you guys. I am a DND nerd on the shelf and I have consumed all of your videos. Please keep up the good work it is thoroughly entertaining.

[@daltonz]

I brought a huge squadron of modrons into my campaign when my PCs were lower level. They ended up going through the gate-like thing the pentadrone opened up, and now they are in mechanus. In order to save their own lives they pleaded to Primus to allow them to help him in his orderly conquest. Now they are turned into monodrones, and they need to bring Primus a substantial piece of evidence in order to move up the rank into duodrone. Then as a duodrone they need to bring two pieces of evidence to rank up and so on and so forth until they become a septadrone (I'm making stats for the hexadrones, septadrones, and Primus) at which point they will bring 7 pieces of good information and Primus will hold a trial for them (they don't know about the trial). The PCs caused the gate opening to stay open so Primus is a bit upset, but in his law he decides that it is just to hold a trial for them.

[@johnc7389]

"I don't know what the state of childrens television is these days... " Abysmal Jim, abysmal.

[@demonblood8841]

you guys never disapoint keep up the great work guys :)

[@JPruinc]

Thanks for tuning in!

[@DRakshasa]

Oh, you could create a Modron version of Yes-man! :O I would love that.

[@tylerh2548]

Sounds like one could take modron inspiration from Brainiac in DCUO.

[@JPruinc]

Totes!

[@GabrielSantosNoctis]

Ok, I'm brazilian. Maybe the only one subscribed in Web DM. I'm here just to observe, and so I came to the conclusion that I'm a modron, how awesome is that?

[@Darknight4434]

É o único n

[@chrismcguinness5405]

A like for the Crown bag alone, good info was a bonus! Played The Great Modron March when it came out, loads of fun.

[@TVlord5]

Im just picturing one of those kinds of hyper lawful creatures showing up and like...slaughtering sheep because there are "too many" and when the party shows up theyre just super friendly "Good morning, mortals! *stab stab stab* how are you?"

[@Darknight4434]

This looks like a modron who got corrupted Its a nice idea

[@wendigovanderblitz4823]

*Primus:* So, how was the trip around the planes? *Monodrone N.5867:* It was bad, but I drew this picture. *Primus:* Awww, let's hang it on the fridge!

[@Draeckon]

Oldish video, I know, but I love the idea of an Inevitable hanging around, invisibly or just kinda showing up and standing there, watching, whenever someone starts casting a Wish spell, or when raise dead is used too many times causing an Inevitable to come after them.

[@CHIIIEEEEEEEEFFFFSSS]

I've been obsessed with Modrons since the first time I flipped through the monster manual and their art was the first thing I saw. It still infuriates me that they haven't released anything higher than Pentadrones for 5e.

[@ZrinNZ]

I've been wanting to bring modrons into my campaign with some new players who quote like weird, quirky things and this video has helped me so much! Thank you!

[@markrob2892]

I absolutely love Planescape. I actually ran the whole Modron March and Dead Gods adventure, back when I had a gaming group..... I miss it. Love hearing another fan of Planescape and talking about Modrons. :D

[@Azetchki]

Now I want to Make a campaign about A great archdemon. But the hero's won't go on A quest to find the legendary weapon of good, but try to start the March of the Modrons early, so that they remove The chaos From The world.

[@TVlord5]

Good luck to them because that wouldn't be following the rules.

[@jacksonl.2201]

It did happen once.

[@Darknight4434]

Ironically, because of an archdemon

[@Infyra]

I like the part of this adventure where the modrons have not gotten the updated town plans (town did not submit or s/t) for a town they march through, and they march straight though the buildings.

[@charliehoke1956]

In my home game the players are wanted by modrons, a mafia, gnomes, and drow.

[@Karagianis]

"There are many possible causes of "wobblyness", please state number of legs."

[@espersghost13]

You all are so rad! Thank you so much for doing what you do! I'd like to request a Volo's guide Best Boss Monsters video if you all would be willing and able to do that! Again, thank you so much for all that you do.

[@chrisdrew1768]

I am a Monodrone of mechanus and I have come to diseminate the unerring, absolute and true law of the one great primus. goodday

[@jacksonl.2201]

Why are you slacking off then?

[@Tgispideys]

Ah! But modrons have no sense of self( unless they’re rogue) and use we instead of I.

[@chakatBombshell]

The funny thing about lawful creatures is they always end up doing something chaotic without realizing it and the chaotic creatures are lawful in that they are structured by their very nature they will be chaotic and changing which still follow a concept of change meaning they wil eventually do something lawful just out of randomness, making conflict between them eventually pointless.

[@frankrobinsjr.1719]

And no one brought up the Vogons from Vogsphere? Aren't they the Intergalactic Modrons? Or, am I just really old and no one reads Douglas Adams any more?

[@jameshansmeyer4936]

Frank Robins, Jr. I feel like the Vogons lean more towards lawful evil, since some of them seem to get enjoyment out of crushing people under bureaucracy

[@Darknight4434]

Vogons are just burocratic assholes. They wont follow perfectly the rules, they just are make things boring

[@youngoptimus14]

new fan super glad I found this channel. quick question though has there been or will there be an episode about yugoloths?

[@DariusDeChevalier]

youngoptimus14 Not to my knowledge, but there absolutely needs to be!

[@BlackHoleBoeke]

They are mentioned in the Demons and Devils episode.

[@JPruinc]

youngoptimus14 We have not covered them. It's now on the list.

[@doworkdownunda]

Great to see you guys doing more DM oriented things again.

[@JPruinc]

In the words of the 10th Doctor, "Oh, Yes!"

[@benjaminodonnell258]

I suppose it's because I'm a lawyer, but I tend to think of the differences between LG, LN and LE in terms of different types of judges (and in my campaigns, communities tend to employ or co-opt clerics of the lawful cults to be judges). Lawful Good judges, believing the rules are there to protect the weak and to promote kindness, would tend to resolve any ambiguities in the rules in favour of the weak. Lawful evil judges, believing that the rules are there to protect the strong and punish the weak, would tend to resolve any normative ambiguities in favour of the strong and the powerful. But lawful neutral judges believe the rules exist for their own sake, or at best, that the rules exist to promote order and stability. Thus a lawful neutral judges will happily go down the semantic rabbit-hole of taking the laws literally but, if they absolutely have to, a lawful neutral judge will resolve normative ambiguities in favour of whatever result that best protects the system of rules and its associated institutions as a whole.

[@MindFeather]

another way to look at the regularly timed 'deaths' of modrons left behind during their march is that perhaps the corpses of modrons are like seeds of lawfulness which produce a stabilizing effect on the lands into which they decompose. in a place like Limbo it may seem as though the modrons are quickly and utterly destroyed ... and yet lawful modron particles have now infiltrated that plane of existence in large quantities. their presence may not be able to turn the tide of chaos toward law, yet their existence may mean just enough of a stabilization effect is occurring to keep the balance of opposites in place. not changing chaos into law, but preventing chaos from spreading wildly. while the lawful corpses decay where they fall, the spirits return to Mechanus to be reborn as modrons with exacting numerical precision. or, perhaps those spirits come from exclusive prime material worlds -- at any rate its clear that the number of modrons in Mechanus is a universal constant, never depleted or exceeding an exact standard.

[@MakeVarahHappen]

How about using the Modrons to hint at celestial alignments that can mess up the world? So Modrons aren't necessarily an ally or an antagonist but if your players start encountering them that means that some great prophecy is about to be enacted that can only happen when the alignment that causes Modrons to march happens. The canary in a coal mine so to speak. I'm reminded of The Watcher from Marvel Comics or Pariah from Crisis On Infinite Earths in DC Comics. Characters that only appear when great tragedy or change is about to happen that while aren't antagonistic or necessarily even involved in the goings-ons of the multiverse do symbolize something worse to come.

[@TVlord5]

OMG I GOT IT! The cosmic law exists to prevent horrible things from being unleashed. Going with the idea that the universe is a giant combination lock to keep Cthulhu etc locked up unless everything is aligned exactly one way. So a bunch of modrons come to clear cut a forest because that was one of the things needed to awaken cthulhu

[@glacialrelic7878]

Lol that wizard using wish and see invisibility is actually a pretty funny image.

[@adamblakeslee5301]

Modron walks up to the queen and says, "So how long have you been a Succubus?" Queen declares war on the Modrons over the insult, local clergy starts investigating, peasant rebellion starts up and starts fighting both the queen and the modrons, fun times! You could also overlap the Modron March with a Demon Invasion. Or a Fiend invasion. Actually, Fiends might cooperate with Modrons as they're both lawful. Frankly, cooperating with Modrons might end up entertaining in their own right. "You want to count what now?""Damnit, we're in the middle of a siege, can't counting my nose hairs wait?" "How exactly do you could water?"

[@MrSweetiebear95]

Jim's looking a little more gray than usual. That's Pruitt's look!

[@JPruinc]

Yeah!

[@imojens]

honestly and intros and after-outro stuff is my favorite haha

[@LURKEN999]

WebDm talks about Denver the last dinosaur(a show i've never heard about before), and then 2 days later the track comes up on my spotify playlist...

[@jello195]

Now I want to write a module with a bunch of modrons for my players. Good Job.

[@Eruvadhril]

The idea of agents of cosmic law remind me of the Auditors from Discworld, especially in Thief of Time where they get foiled by logical paradoxes, and do things like destroy all of the paving stones in the road that aren't the exact right size for a paving stone to be.

[@Socialdogma]

Wearing a Chaotic Good shirt while talking about Modrons is pushing your luck.

[@fishapiller]

You two sound wonderful I love the videos so far I miss playing dnd this fills the void in my heart

[@andrewmatlock3772]

your best intro statement ever

[@kerilithia]

Any one watching this now, there is as filmed dnd game about the modron march called Hells Bells.

[@Mr.Monacle]

Level 20 oneshot involving primus, Fighter cracks knuckles and says "I've got this guys" Walks over to Primus and says, "Primus what is 832000 devided by 0". Primus opens it's mouth to answer and says "The answer-r-r-r-r-r-" and a loud Duhn sound is heard and Primus's eyes glow blue. After a few seconds Primus explodes. Fighter turns to group, "See? I told you I got this".

[@jacksonl.2201]

and then a new Primus appears, being promoted from the next position down, and so on, filling in the empty slots until a new monodrone is made

[@damienthetexasian6827]

I love all the cartoon references, my son watches reruns of Denver and Dinosaucers was my fav over Dino Rider. Looking back it looks like the animaters of Dinosaucers ended up doing Captain Planet. i remeber COPS, Bionic 6 etc

[@johndavis9674]

I got great use out of Modrons in 4E, where I used them as very sinister, dangerous enemies. I really liked the 'From One comes Many' idea they had, which was basically meant any higher up Modron was a composite of the lesser ones, so as they died, they'd split into lots the lesser forms. They were all part of some huge, dangerous plan that the PCs were trying to work out. It helped that my previous group didn't know/couldn't remember/didn't recognise Modrons as I was using them. I'm a little disappointed by the jokey look they've given them in 5E. They were always a bit daft, even back in AD&D, but the current version look a bit too silly. Having them in the MM mean people recognise them now as well. Odd that you should talk about Inevitables as well - both are important in my current campaign - it asks the question what happens when two forces of Absolute Law meet. (Answer- nothing good.)

[@spaceiguana5066]

Hey guys, big fan of your content! I'm a new DM so you and nerdarchy have helped me a lot. Very well presented and thorough, gives me the ability to follow along (i.e volo's and classes especially). When I think of Brazil I think of Mordekaiser

[@Prononano]

Not going to lie. I rarely play Lawful characters, and yet Inevitables have always been my favorite monsters in the game. Never did figure that one out.

[@LastFanStanding12]

Modrons always make me think of The Phantom Tollbooth

[@ZerkMonsterHunter]

looking forwards to more. you guys make awesome content. i`d love to see a video focused on elementals or Aberrations in the future. or, even better yet, what are some things from oldr additions you guys would like to see brought to 5E

[@richmcgee434]

One other obvious thing you can do with Modrons is to have the party interacting with one or more Rogues. They don't go off their program often but it does happen, and you're especially likely to find them as stragglers after the March goes off. They're still very alien most of the time, and might be either friends or foes to an adventuring party. Maybe a sympathetic one helps them out of a bad spot and then later they encounter it as (say) a prisoner of an evil mage and they get to repay the favor. Or a more sinister Rogue Modron installs itself as some kind of advisor to the local nobility, maybe disguising its true nature by pretending to be the creation of a hedge wizard or somesuch. On a grander scale, maybe the party gets involved with trying to protect a Rogue from a hit squad sent from Mechanicus to eliminate the aberrant, involving them in Outer Planar affairs for the first time. And in the highest tiers, perhaps the Modrons are succumbing to a plague of chaos and the party has to either aid them, or ensure that the plague does its job and sweeps them away to be replaced by a new race to champion Utmost Order.

[@boximismaximis3150]

I'm actually dming a campaign where the modrons are the big bad, a new primus came into power and decided the rest of the planes are too chaotic, and basically go out to take control and thinks, there's no one to break the laws if I turn them all to brass.

[@spiritchannels]

LOVE Planescape & shows about it. Dude, if you haven't found one yet, you can have my Modron March adventure.

[@spiritchannels]

Your behind the scenes it's hilarious.

[@digunder14]

if they stayed in mechinus it would basically expload, cuz it's atop a powerful energy source that is really only used up when making a new monodrone be it from one being destroyed, or upgrading it magically and making a new one into replace the replacement that was upgraded

[@whitleypedia]

this was beautiful - terrific work, friends

[@theTM-io8dl]

Did anyone else think of “the pile of dead bards” from the gamers: dork ness rising when the marut was brought up?

[@catfoodbob1]

I could imagine ressusication would probably anger an inevitable less than a ressurection.

[@collin6691]

great puns man

[@Fraginator]

glad someone else caught them. had to pause and restart cause I was laughing.

[@JPruinc]

When my pun mode r on...its on. (...eh)

[@Fraginator]

if I wasn't smiling and face palming I may have said you went too far.

[@theadversary]

After watching the ending to this, I think you should do a full dinosaur episode.

[@dividedreality9708]

Rogue Modrons are fun to have, just hope that they're not corrupted.

[@kyleellis9177]

i see modrons conquering a world and then putting everything in zoo like habitats. like the IRobot take over and lock the humans up kinda style

[@MidnightDStroyer]

Watching this, I seem to recall a computer video game called "Planescape: Torment." It's an old game, but for those who have never played it but still want to, there's some minor spoilers of one of the sub-plots here so if you proceed it's at your own discretion. Everything I say here is already on various websites (like I said, the game is old), so the impact of spoilage here is pretty much a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. In the Clerk's Ward of Sigil, there is the Curiosity Shoppe being run by Vrischika. In there, one of the items that can be purchased is a small articulated toy figure resembling a Modron...There's a secret to this, which involves manipulating the limbs in a certain order...Which will transport the PC Party to the Rubikon Construct on the plane of Limbo. Also known as the Modron Maze, you can find some info at torment.wikia.com/wiki/Modron_Maze. I figure that this Modron Maze sub-plot is an example of what these guys are talking about: Once you've gotten more info of the dialogue strings with the Modrons that operate the Maze, it becomes clear that the Rubikon Construct is to gather info to study "the dynamics of the dungeon-delving sub-culture, including their use of teamwork tactics & social interactions among themselves." It can been seen that this is one of the ways that Mechanus is not only trying to instill *some* level of Law within the chaotic plane of Limbo, but their mission with the cube, but they are also conducting a controlled-environment research survey on adventuring groups! This "research they conduct in the Modron Maze is a part of the Modron March these guys are talking about.

[@TehConqueror]

im a first time DM and I made modrons my main campaign....antagonist? so far so good i'd say.

[@mr.incorporeal7642]

Think you guys could do an episode on Daemons/Yugoloths? They always get neglected and left out of D&D (hell, 4th edition axed them entirely), but I feel they have a lot of potential to be extremely interesting if people just knew more about the sorts of themes that can be explored with them (namely the sort of deep, eternal, transcendental Evil-with-a-capital-E that dwarfs both Devils and Demons in its power but hides in plain sight by pretending to be merely petty opportunists playing both sides).

[@Sammo212]

I bought that dice ying/yang shirt because of this show :D

[@williamozier918]

I love Modrons but never had a chance to use them much. Wen I DM I sometimes use Devas and Solars and 'angelic' beings as my in-universe avatar for when the characters break the rules or go off rails. So if the characters broke alignment, or went off adventure a Deva would show up and warn them. If they kept it up have the Deva use its magic to mess with them. If they keep it up, have the Deva show up and announce it is leaving and they are no longer under its protection. They think 'Ha we won', until the demons start showing up. You could use Modrons in the same way. So let's say a magic use tries uses a sword; next round some Modrons gate in and try to take the magic users sword away. Let's say the adventure is to the east so the players ho off the rails and head west...smack into a squadron of 3 Modrons. And just as with Devas and Solars, if you kill a Modron the next thing up in the hierarchy shows up next time.

[@Darknight4434]

I think that you are already achieving the point were you just try to make him follow your path Cmon, those examples arent things to punish someone

[@blakebailey22]

Maybe have a campaign where the note taking is over and the Modrons are setting out to definitively put things in their place

[@patrickthoma5320]

Oh my gosh best intro yet!!!!! Laughing my ass off 10 seconds in HAHAHAHAHA

[@JPruinc]

Glad to entertain!

[@hxigg]

What do you think Mechanus is calculating? ;P

[@Bluecho4]

Pi to the last digit. Or, else, the Ultimate Question (to go along with the Ultimate Answer, which, as we all know, is 42).

[@joshuarichardson6529]

That would be funny, discovering the only reason the universe can even exist is because Mechanus is calculating and maintaining pi.

[@JPruinc]

I'm onboard with the Pi theory. Ratio of circumference...great Modron March around the great wheel cosmology...it's perfect! If Jim ever runs a Modron March campaign, I'm playing Maximilian Cohen...Artificer looking for the 'Golden Spiral'!

[@pprandomnpz]

42

[@joshuarichardson6529]

You can even justify the edition changes with this, as mechanus gets pi more accurate, circles can get closer to perfection, which adjusts the magic field, the swing of a fighter's sword, how long a monk's kick is and how much force it imparts when it hits, the range of an area effect spell, the amount of energy that a magic missile can contain, etc... "Wait, so you can only shoot out one magic missile a day now? Just two centuries ago you could do that every single encounter. What happened?"

[@williamozier918]

I like to use lawful good outer planes creatures like Devas, and Modrons (never personally used Inevitables) for an in game DM tool for when characters deviate, metagame, use player knowledge, break class prohibitions, etc. That's not me the DM railroading or punishing, that is how the game universe works. As a DM I figure in the game that is exactly why the gods created these servants, to enforce the rules of the cosmos on mortals who choose to break them.

[@scottjones6860]

+1 like for the Crown Royal dice bag. And the content.

[@robwong7206]

This has certainly helped give me interesting ideas to add to my campaign. Thanks! :)

[@JM-fi7uc]

I come here to learn about monsters and the conversation devolved into centaur pegging wtf lol