Moesha: Frank Tells Dorian That He Is His Real Father

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3 жыл бұрын

From Season 5, Episode 14: Secrets and Lies
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@ttkell3310
@ttkell3310 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it up to that one Auntie who knows everything
@1talldaddy
@1talldaddy 3 жыл бұрын
pretty sure the whole family except Dee,Moe and Miles knew.
@Meta_Meech
@Meta_Meech 3 жыл бұрын
Right, that one nosey, big mouth relative 🙄🙄🙄
@rikadojean-jacques3928
@rikadojean-jacques3928 3 жыл бұрын
Who told Aunt Hattie that Dorian is Frank's son
@ttkell3310
@ttkell3310 3 жыл бұрын
@@rikadojean-jacques3928 IKR maybe grandma
@James00James00
@James00James00 3 жыл бұрын
...except for when to keep her mouth shut.
@cj8803
@cj8803 2 жыл бұрын
No one ever looked at Frank the same way after this episode. Moesha was right, HE LIED TO THE ENTIRE FAMILY FOR YEARS!
@Djchicago1
@Djchicago1 2 жыл бұрын
Hope moesha never forgives him
@sbrooks729
@sbrooks729 2 жыл бұрын
@@Djchicago1 she did later in season 5
@Djchicago1
@Djchicago1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sbrooks729 mind your bussiness
@sbrooks729
@sbrooks729 2 жыл бұрын
@@Djchicago1 go mind yours
@atltru2847
@atltru2847 2 жыл бұрын
D Clark u are everywhere. LOL....
@dominicksansotta7173
@dominicksansotta7173 3 жыл бұрын
This really mesed up the positive dynamic of the show .
@1talldaddy
@1talldaddy 3 жыл бұрын
yeah and then later on found out he was a "break baby"
@kimberlymcneill7283
@kimberlymcneill7283 3 жыл бұрын
But it made it more real. Because everybody ain't tryna watch a black sitcom they cant relate to AT ALL. For the first time they showed real family issues
@deehines5750
@deehines5750 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlymcneill7283 You're basically insinuating that every black family is severely dysfunctional...
@Rudeboy876
@Rudeboy876 3 жыл бұрын
Damn producers smh
@Gamingdoc
@Gamingdoc 3 жыл бұрын
@@deehines5750 exactly
@dantheman8152
@dantheman8152 3 жыл бұрын
The whole energy changed after this
@LEGENDPantherJennings
@LEGENDPantherJennings 3 жыл бұрын
When Countess Vaughn?Left It Went Downhill
@KosmikGawdess
@KosmikGawdess 3 жыл бұрын
@@LEGENDPantherJennings because her show was poppin. I still watch it till this day lol.
@LEGENDPantherJennings
@LEGENDPantherJennings 3 жыл бұрын
@@KosmikGawdess cool
@superawesomegamer2170
@superawesomegamer2170 3 жыл бұрын
Seasons 1 and 2 are my favorite seasons in this show and I started watching it when it came out on Netflix on August 1, 2020.
@simonstuart2003
@simonstuart2003 3 жыл бұрын
This. Frank got on my nerves but got was too much and so stereotypical that it ruined the show.
@Turp28
@Turp28 3 жыл бұрын
It's incredible to see the exact moment when a show dies, cause this was it.
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall 2 жыл бұрын
And the episode storylines were extremely lack luster after this. I stop watching on Netflix once I arrive to this episode 😂
@achmeez
@achmeez 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, as soon as they said, “also starring Ray J.” That’s when the show died. But Brandy has always been a good big sister. I respect her nepotism.
@ERASEREPLACEPLACE
@ERASEREPLACEPLACE 11 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right.
@toddanthony6664
@toddanthony6664 3 ай бұрын
The show was already on life support when Countess Vaughn left to do The Parkers. They pulled the plug with this episode.
@SirEJWStudiosandProductions
@SirEJWStudiosandProductions 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons Sherly Lee Ralf, left the show. She said, she didn't like what they were doing to the positive black male figure of the show. And she was right
@chrispeplinski7306
@chrispeplinski7306 Жыл бұрын
I think Sheryl Lee Ralph said the Dorian revelation portrayed frank as a typical deadbeat father.
@natesamadhi33
@natesamadhi33 Жыл бұрын
true. however, lets be real tho, he wasnt that positive to begin with. being strict doesnt equal positive.
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Sharyl left the show. I haven't watched this show, since UPN in 2001.
@Hinokami777
@Hinokami777 Жыл бұрын
@@natesamadhi33 yes he was dummy ? He wanted nothing but the best for his kids to prosper and achieve their goals and stay in school. Atleast he was around the other two. Moesha is the one who is bad , sneaking out , getting tatts , crushing on grown men, etc. she respects none of his rules
@ebonyrushharrington2197
@ebonyrushharrington2197 Жыл бұрын
True !!!!! true!!!!!
@mr.russell5395
@mr.russell5395 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh. The beginning of the end of 'Moesha' as we knew it. Jumping the shark 😆😆😆
@prestonmcleod1726
@prestonmcleod1726 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much, the writing was on the wall.
@tyralikadiamondstar8960
@tyralikadiamondstar8960 3 жыл бұрын
This is really mess up how they did this show
@LEGENDPantherJennings
@LEGENDPantherJennings 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@vincentmccauley4099
@vincentmccauley4099 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyralikadiamondstar8960 Truly they did. It was not necessary at all. With him as the cousin they could have written countless stories around him. I agree with Sheryl Lee Ralph.
@favbrowngirl322
@favbrowngirl322 3 жыл бұрын
What happen is this what made moesha end of so how lm lost?
@jonathancineus6424
@jonathancineus6424 3 жыл бұрын
Brandy always adds Ray J to everything she does and it goes down right after that.
@idkwhattoputasmyname9581
@idkwhattoputasmyname9581 3 жыл бұрын
i think it’s more their parents than brandy.
@yell0wberry
@yell0wberry 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not like she added him to The Game or Star
@christinaa5984
@christinaa5984 3 жыл бұрын
@@yell0wberry but star still got cancelled😭at this point brandy or ray j get everything they on cancelled
@yell0wberry
@yell0wberry 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinaa5984 brandy had very little to do with star getting canceled, Lee Daniels is one of the worst script writers and directors we seen in recent memory, he seems to think he’s better than Tyler perry or even Spike Lee. He’s just a recipient of affirmative-action
@ariesqueenofdiamonds78
@ariesqueenofdiamonds78 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't like how both was added on the sitcom One On One..Brandy's character helped break~up Briana & Arnaz😔
@teriewilliams8614
@teriewilliams8614 3 жыл бұрын
Sheryl Lee Ralph & William Allen Young went to the producers & BEGGED them NOT to move forward with this storyline!! They KNEW it would KILL the show, but of course they didn’t listen and it did!! Sheryl Lee Ralph admitted in a interview that once the decision was made to move forward with the storyline Moesha was OVER she was NOT returning to the show & she didn’t!!
@ghariiscool
@ghariiscool 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew that ...is there a documentary on this show that explains it?
@tyreesimsmcpherson1844
@tyreesimsmcpherson1844 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghariiscool unsung
@Meta_Meech
@Meta_Meech 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because it made the show stereotypical. Which defeated the original premise of the show
@teriewilliams8614
@teriewilliams8614 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghariiscool…NO Sheryl Lee Ralph & William Young did interviews about it yrs ago!!
@teriewilliams8614
@teriewilliams8614 3 жыл бұрын
@@Meta_Meech…INDEED!!
@afropick93
@afropick93 3 жыл бұрын
That first "you cheated on my mother..." hit hard. Brandy was a phenomenal actress.
@Tno901
@Tno901 3 жыл бұрын
No she ain't she's a murderer
@afropick93
@afropick93 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tno901 ... That too
@chars1239
@chars1239 3 жыл бұрын
@@afropick93 wait what are y’all talking about? How is she a murderer?
@afropick93
@afropick93 3 жыл бұрын
@@chars1239 She had two separate car crashes that resulted in the other drivers dying
@chars1239
@chars1239 3 жыл бұрын
@@afropick93 that’s horrible, I just looked it up. May they rest in peace.
@darealistmynizzle3421
@darealistmynizzle3421 3 жыл бұрын
The show went to shit when Kim Parker left but this moment is when the show really went down !! Smh
@favbrowngirl322
@favbrowngirl322 3 жыл бұрын
Why is tht? you would think that it made the show be more interesting?
@favbrowngirl322
@favbrowngirl322 3 жыл бұрын
@Just Passing Through thnk you
@yell0wberry
@yell0wberry 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not like The Parkers went on to be the greatest sitcom of all time
@yummylemons172
@yummylemons172 3 жыл бұрын
I sort of liked it when Kim left but only because they gave Niecy more to work with. Before Kim left I think she only had one episode about her
@Mannymoe3
@Mannymoe3 3 жыл бұрын
@Just Passing Through didn't ruin it for me at all, we all make mistakes in life.
@robertdozier9481
@robertdozier9481 3 жыл бұрын
Adding Ray-J, to any situation, is never a good decision... 😕
@aliccianeal6459
@aliccianeal6459 3 жыл бұрын
Wowww!! 😂😂😂😂
@tmack3256
@tmack3256 3 жыл бұрын
the hell did ray j do why is everyone bashing him🤣
@robertdozier9481
@robertdozier9481 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmack3256 how much time you got???
@jaxmaxwell2815
@jaxmaxwell2815 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertdozier9481 damn how bad is he
@robertdozier9481
@robertdozier9481 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaxmaxwell2815 How much time you got???
@Faithful1ne07
@Faithful1ne07 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Sheryl Lee Ralph left and I don’t blame her.
@memelashey974
@memelashey974 3 жыл бұрын
Brandys mom pushed for Ray J to get on the show. That’s why he kept popping up on the show in earlier seasons.
@monkeybrown5218
@monkeybrown5218 3 жыл бұрын
So? That's her child
@memelashey974
@memelashey974 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeybrown5218 I don’t understand how you’re phrasing your comment. If your asking; then “yes” that is her child. If your getting smart then get smarter and read my comment again because I didn’t state this as a insult.
@monkeybrown5218
@monkeybrown5218 3 жыл бұрын
@@memelashey974 If it wasn't a problem, then why are you commenting it? Did you comment how Sonya got Brandy the show? You get smarter.
@memelashey974
@memelashey974 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeybrown5218 You BIG PRESSED lol 😂😭😂 Not you acting like y’all family 🤭🤦🏾‍♀️ Mama Norwood is this you ???
@monkeybrown5218
@monkeybrown5218 3 жыл бұрын
@@memelashey974 Yes this is me sugar, now hand mama her teeth
@youglogirl
@youglogirl 3 жыл бұрын
How to ruin a show tutorial! We wanted Moesha the college years not Moesha the Maury special
@Faithful1ne07
@Faithful1ne07 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Ms.NigeriaParker
@Ms.NigeriaParker 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Prancer-jr6qr
@Prancer-jr6qr 3 жыл бұрын
“You are the father”
@jadoresophya
@jadoresophya 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The boy drama. The friend drama. The professor drama.
@yezzerskii3166
@yezzerskii3166 3 жыл бұрын
White folks neva wanted to see a hood black family word
@mjb12ification
@mjb12ification 3 жыл бұрын
Really can’t blame Hattie since she had no knowledge of it. Frank is mostly the blame for lying.
@1talldaddy
@1talldaddy 3 жыл бұрын
yeah and something should have went off in their heads when she asked Dee did she have a problem with Dorian living there.
@rikadojean-jacques3928
@rikadojean-jacques3928 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just Frank his sister Sandy too
@kobrathadon4956
@kobrathadon4956 3 жыл бұрын
But technically frank didn't cheat him and moesha mom split got back together and she gave frank a ultimatum. If frank bring Dorian home she leaving him I found that to be fucked up on moesha mom part
@jacobTheeCreole
@jacobTheeCreole 3 жыл бұрын
Frank is 100% the blame
@simplyjuannie5128
@simplyjuannie5128 3 жыл бұрын
@@rikadojean-jacques3928 All Sandy did was adopt Dorian. It wasn't her place to tell Moesha's mom or anyone else.
@CapitalGainzz
@CapitalGainzz 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine ending the show the way it ended. Y’all know what part I’m talking about. They definitely ran the show into the ground. It’s a shame because it was such a wholesome show. Taught me a lot about parenting and building a relationship with my children.
@s-wo8781
@s-wo8781 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Lil Kim kidnap Miles?
@vanousisi8112
@vanousisi8112 2 жыл бұрын
@@s-wo8781 no two men not lil Kim
@lboog081284
@lboog081284 3 жыл бұрын
This storyline killed this show. It totally wasn’t needed.
@KosmikGawdess
@KosmikGawdess 3 жыл бұрын
They were trying to one up because the parkers was the shizz. But it backfired.
@GameOn71213
@GameOn71213 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's because they wanted Ray j's character to have some importance
@lataracalloway3636
@lataracalloway3636 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the storyline. It was adding Ray J
@adelestoker9053
@adelestoker9053 3 жыл бұрын
Idk cause we found out that no matter what he never left his side. He was there for every single thing while he was growing up, didn't miss a beat and was there when he needed him the most.
@christian6455
@christian6455 3 жыл бұрын
@@KosmikGawdess parkers definitely did got popular
@ash5900
@ash5900 2 жыл бұрын
Dee was the real hero of the story she took on franks kids put up with both dorian and moesha attitudes helped Miles with his substance abuse its a shame they scrapped the idea of her and Frank having kids. Still can't get over that Frank never told her
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Жыл бұрын
She was smokin'!
@soslime6082
@soslime6082 Жыл бұрын
@@Jahn_Pah_JonzMyles was
@talltalllady
@talltalllady 10 ай бұрын
Because she was too old to get pregnant. Is why they scrapped the idea.
@janfromcorporate
@janfromcorporate 2 жыл бұрын
This storyline didn’t ruin the show. It simply highlighted what was already wrong. Frank was a terrible father and Dorian brought that to the forefront
@Luvinmydejah97
@Luvinmydejah97 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@DPPLOWD
@DPPLOWD 2 жыл бұрын
He was a great father
@MoonMoon-fx1op
@MoonMoon-fx1op 2 жыл бұрын
A terrible father? How? Cause he had rules?
@ImJustShayeB
@ImJustShayeB 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoonMoon-fx1op he was toxic af and a hypocrite.
@MoonMoon-fx1op
@MoonMoon-fx1op 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImJustShayeB or he was human and made mistakes like everyone else
@wyntonmohorn
@wyntonmohorn 2 жыл бұрын
This was the moment Moesha went from a comedy to a dramedy. This was the moment Moesha got real.
@queenking6524
@queenking6524 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t blame Ray J for the show getting canceled. He had BEEN on the show previously reoccurring as one of Mo’s classmates when they were much younger.
@yummylemons172
@yummylemons172 3 жыл бұрын
Well this is the first time he has played a major character though. Adding a new main character in middle of a series is always a risk
@queenking6524
@queenking6524 2 жыл бұрын
@@yummylemons172 true but they mean Ray J specifically lol probably because One on One got canceled as well. I feel like the family dynamic became more deeper with him on there and it could’ve really went somewhere.
@yattamook
@yattamook 3 жыл бұрын
this that time tyler perry wrote for the show 😂jk
@Babysista
@Babysista 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@johnnywinstonjr
@johnnywinstonjr 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most explosive scenes on Black television history! Didn't see it coming.
@essteex4656
@essteex4656 3 жыл бұрын
Twas trash 🗑
@weareadrian
@weareadrian 3 жыл бұрын
Frank went from looking like Doug to Daquan in 3.7 seconds LMAO 😂
@brysonhardy9082
@brysonhardy9082 3 жыл бұрын
Don't blame Moesha, she's Innocent.
@aishag3476
@aishag3476 3 жыл бұрын
This time lol
@jukilllsss2854
@jukilllsss2854 3 жыл бұрын
Naw shouldn’t no child come at they parents like that, that’s her parents business she need to stay in a child’s place and out of grown folks business
@ajohnson5693
@ajohnson5693 3 жыл бұрын
@@jukilllsss2854 well I would be mad too thinking he’s my cousin whole time I had a brother I could’ve grown up with life would be so different. Then knowing your dad did that to your mom it would be hell it the mother did it to him.
@shadonnamarie93
@shadonnamarie93 3 жыл бұрын
@@jukilllsss2854 exactly stay, thats was between her mom and dad
@aaronkenyon7112
@aaronkenyon7112 3 жыл бұрын
@@jukilllsss2854 So if your dad cheated on your mom, you wouldn't react the same way? I would and I did
@siyahseeker
@siyahseeker 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 The way Moesha said "You cheated on my mother..." in that way... The passion in her voice is like, yeah. She pieced the clues together. Given this situation, can you really blame Mo for constantly knocking heads with Frank? Personally, I understand. How can you trust someone that led you on with a big lie? Simple answer: You can't.
@rose4mvp2012
@rose4mvp2012 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care how many times I've seen this, my heart drops every time I see this lol.
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall 2 жыл бұрын
This was when Brandy was so overworked in the industry she fainted on set, wasn’t eating or sleeping, she was getting tired of Moesha and this episode was the icing on the cake that started the Moesha downfall.
@carahood720
@carahood720 8 ай бұрын
This. Is. Crazy
@Shon9tilR
@Shon9tilR 4 ай бұрын
Sucks! We all wanted more seasons.
@Breanna_monique
@Breanna_monique Жыл бұрын
They had the NERVE to say "Mooesha!?" and "Who you talking to?" like she was in the wrong 😩
@redips
@redips 5 ай бұрын
they have no right to say that after this.
@Hogwarts-Dropout
@Hogwarts-Dropout 3 жыл бұрын
If I told my dad to shut up I'd be six feet under in under sixty seconds.
@freemovies8021
@freemovies8021 2 жыл бұрын
Right that was between mo’s mother and Frank she was just a child she had no idea what was going on in their relationship it was none of her business she need to stay in a child’s place and at the end it turned out Frank didn’t cheat on her mother
@Kemon-
@Kemon- 2 жыл бұрын
Your dad is soft. My father would have bodied me in under 10 seconds.
@eberechi3025
@eberechi3025 2 жыл бұрын
@@freemovies8021 Y'all love to talk about a child's place but never want to talk about an adult's place. Why are you, as an adult, cheating on the mother of your child and betraying your entire family? Y'all just think you can do any fuckshit to your kids and get away with it because you're prequalified for AARP and are out here openly bragging about how you're raised by people with anger issues who don't see you as a human being deserving of a voice or at the very least morality. Notice how she would still be in a "child's place" had he done the right thing in the first place.
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Жыл бұрын
Well you DID go to gaywarts school. 😆
@d-Equalizer-b
@d-Equalizer-b 3 жыл бұрын
At least he brought them all raycons
@mossgeorge2001
@mossgeorge2001 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the morning after all this Miles was like Dad, it is okay and he needed that.
@sachamusica1
@sachamusica1 3 жыл бұрын
Yup he said I love you and low-key I teared up lol
@RapFanatic4ever
@RapFanatic4ever 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he’s a kid he’s naive
@RealTalk1411
@RealTalk1411 2 жыл бұрын
@@RapFanatic4ever I agree. Miles was too young to understand the magnitude of what just happened. You're right he's a kid. He's not like Moesha. He didn't feel betrayed or hurt or lied to. All Miles cared about was that he now had a brother.
@tiffanystennett1973
@tiffanystennett1973 2 жыл бұрын
That was touching. I loved that part.
@SUMPhiB08
@SUMPhiB08 Жыл бұрын
@@RealTalk1411 Thank God he’s not like Moesha
@DJKeytronikzTV
@DJKeytronikzTV 2 жыл бұрын
This SHOULD'VE been the series finale right here
@shaynestewart9297
@shaynestewart9297 2 жыл бұрын
Even better. After the fourth season they could've done a 3 hour TV movie. ending the series.
@Papi.Pharaoh
@Papi.Pharaoh 10 ай бұрын
Frank has always treated Myles and Dorian better than Moesha because they’re boys. Dee was more of a parent to Moesha than Frank ever was. Her and Moesha had the right to be very upset with Frank about Dorian being his son.
@lildurk3004
@lildurk3004 10 ай бұрын
No one is perfect tho, however, we as children no matter how old we are, we dont forget. We may forgive you but we wont forget what you did.
@michaelcloete271
@michaelcloete271 2 жыл бұрын
This is the reality some of us grew up in. I think this is the most powerful of the episodes ever. This show was deep on so many levels. Thank you Moesha team.
@trinidadmetroid
@trinidadmetroid 2 жыл бұрын
YES.even though this killed the show many people have an experience like this....where their 'cousin' is really their sibling.
@Landprince
@Landprince 2 жыл бұрын
@@trinidadmetroid my cousins are my siblings. My mom married brothers.
@trinidadmetroid
@trinidadmetroid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Landprince she married two brothers back to back?
@Landprince
@Landprince 2 жыл бұрын
@@trinidadmetroid yes my uncle went to jail and she got with his brother (my dad) after that.
@honeywest39j95
@honeywest39j95 2 жыл бұрын
@@Landprince no comment…😬
@gerawallstar3487
@gerawallstar3487 11 ай бұрын
2:45 Why are they laughing?! This is the most dark and serious moment from this episode.
@armanigoodman5302
@armanigoodman5302 9 ай бұрын
Moesha is the best TV show back in the year 1996 until 2001
@LMLification
@LMLification 2 жыл бұрын
Frank brought this on himself by stepping outside of his marriage, producing a child and thinking his children should not be privy to the fact that they had a brother. Plus, his wife had a right to know before marrying Frank. You have to be up front with your children. Although my situation was different, I was pissed off that my parents tried to hide the fact that my brother was actually my half-brother and that my father adopted him after marrying my mom. Everyone knew except me until I saw his father ring the doorbell, and I answered the door. Be honest with your children.
@25JAZZLLY2525
@25JAZZLLY2525 2 жыл бұрын
Honey do you need a hug
@Djchicago1
@Djchicago1 2 жыл бұрын
@@25JAZZLLY2525 go back to ur brothel
@sbrooks729
@sbrooks729 2 жыл бұрын
He was separated for other reasons. Frank then started dealing with Barbara after he figured that Marguerite was not returning. He didn’t cheat on his wife, but the situation is still messy.
@jeremymartin9148
@jeremymartin9148 2 жыл бұрын
You obviously didn't watch the entire show, before making this comment
@LMLification
@LMLification 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymartin9148 No, I did, although not for a while, and am still not changing my stance. BYE.
@LilGrimey5Star
@LilGrimey5Star 3 жыл бұрын
The father was like “I hit it first” lol
@ghariiscool
@ghariiscool 3 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀💀💀
@DynamicPublicRelationsBOSS
@DynamicPublicRelationsBOSS 3 жыл бұрын
Ha lol lort
@austinadegor3562
@austinadegor3562 2 жыл бұрын
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@austinadegor3562
@austinadegor3562 2 жыл бұрын
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@macywood4619
@macywood4619 2 жыл бұрын
Hell naw!
@jeffrivera3612
@jeffrivera3612 3 жыл бұрын
I was ok with kim leaving , since she get her own show, but after this the show just wasn’t the same anymore. I also hated the Hakeem and moesha storyline as well. I liked them better as best friends.
@mrsbreazy7413
@mrsbreazy7413 2 жыл бұрын
@Dominick Sansotta exactly they weren’t even cute together they just didn’t match
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 3 жыл бұрын
This was some BS. They didnt have to do this.
@Kenya5800
@Kenya5800 Жыл бұрын
He always acted like he was perfect and downed everyone else for their flaws but hid the biggest secret.
@teriewilliams8614
@teriewilliams8614 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just like “Good Times” when John Amos wanted the SHOW to focus on ALL 3 kids & NOT just JJ! Of course they didn’t listen 🎧 & KILLED his character off the show instead! That decision caused the RATINGS to plummet and the show was NEVER the same afterwards!! The show got “boring” after he left!! John Amos did an interview about it a while ago!!
@lateshiachilds3640
@lateshiachilds3640 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly I agree with that, producers should listen to actors/actress sometimes their opinion can matter also
@mrs.c2793
@mrs.c2793 3 жыл бұрын
I saw his interview. Living Single was the done the same way.
@moeticjustuce
@moeticjustuce 3 жыл бұрын
Wait! JJ was killed off?!
@brennenjones6658
@brennenjones6658 3 жыл бұрын
@@moeticjustuce No, not JJ, lol. But John Amos' James character was. That's where Florida's infamous "damn, damn, damn!" comes from after she finally accepts his death.
@s-wo8781
@s-wo8781 3 жыл бұрын
The later seasons of Good Times was still good don't front. I lived Penny!
@JustbeingCed
@JustbeingCed 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this for the first time. It shock us when we saw this on a black tv show.
@airjoshy
@airjoshy 3 жыл бұрын
Ray J finds out he’s the love child and Moesha gets mad and makes it about her….
@myguychris7739
@myguychris7739 3 жыл бұрын
I tell ya bout women 🤣
@MissDeenaB94
@MissDeenaB94 3 жыл бұрын
Well.. to be fair... he did make her feel like complete shit for the smallest things so I figure she looked at it as you have some nerve. Plus her mama died so she’s emotional. It happens
@myguychris7739
@myguychris7739 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissDeenaB94 Look at the women coming in to justify 😂
@MissDeenaB94
@MissDeenaB94 3 жыл бұрын
@@myguychris7739 I’m the only female that said something sir
@myguychris7739
@myguychris7739 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissDeenaB94 Obviously you're not if I used the word "women"
@fizziealladin5282
@fizziealladin5282 3 жыл бұрын
This episode always held a special place in my heart.. I still remember when I was 15 years old seeing this episode.. Then I wrote a letter to her..
@tre1123ify
@tre1123ify 2 жыл бұрын
Did she ever receive it or reply?
@NODE1975
@NODE1975 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Dee left the show.
@lateshiachilds3640
@lateshiachilds3640 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t blame her
@simonstuart2003
@simonstuart2003 3 жыл бұрын
Don't blame her one bit
@johnny4048reads
@johnny4048reads 3 жыл бұрын
@@lateshiachilds3640 me either.
@wonderwoman5732
@wonderwoman5732 5 ай бұрын
@@lateshiachilds3640 Neither do I.
@TheRealMTR
@TheRealMTR 3 жыл бұрын
What's interesting is that I thought Ray J had a 'Maury Show's hat on
@RapFanatic4ever
@RapFanatic4ever 2 жыл бұрын
“You are the father”
@still730bf
@still730bf 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@Shon9tilR
@Shon9tilR 4 ай бұрын
“You finally brought your son home. I knew you would do the right…😳” 😂
@munimathbypeterfelton6251
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t just that this plot twist killed the series, it was also how the scene itself was directed. To have a hunky-dory outside character who never appeared on the show before or after this one single dagger of a moment casually mention that Dorian was Frank’s son was very inappropriate writing, period. Plus the fact that Frank and Aunt Hattie wanted to wait to reveal this dirty dagger of a secret to Dorian after he turned 18 showed sheer selfishness and passive-aggression on Frank’s part in particular. “Happy 18th Birthday, Dorian! Oh by the way, I am your father not your uncle.” 😡
@rockchick128
@rockchick128 2 жыл бұрын
Kids don't have to be 18 to know who their dad is
@TheGlittergirlxoxo
@TheGlittergirlxoxo 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockchick128 we know, that’s common sense. The original comment was only referring to what Frank said in the show
@ClearandHealthyBoundaries
@ClearandHealthyBoundaries 2 жыл бұрын
Good point! When the aunt said at the end she was going to stay at a hotel I asked myself if she really did mean to come and turn the family's world upside down with some self-righteous agenda to let Dorian know the truth.
@frostyfreezyfreeze54
@frostyfreezyfreeze54 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting me know this character had never been on the show before this episode. That's what very special episodes do: Create characters you're never going to see again just for the sake of the story. My thing is, did nobody tell Aunt Hattie not to say anything? I find it hard to believe that only five people knew about this and there wasn't a strict agreement between all of them to keep it a secret until Dorian turned 18. And two of them were out of the picture, so how did Aunt Hattie think it was okay to just blurt that out after so many years of knowing about it?
@georgeniang
@georgeniang Жыл бұрын
@@frostyfreezyfreeze54 she probably thought they knew
@yummylemons172
@yummylemons172 3 жыл бұрын
Even before this storyline the Dorian character was a mistake. I’m rewatching the series on Netflix and I realize how if the episode isn’t about him then most of the B plots are. It was like the were really trying to push the character onto the audience He was an unnecessary addition to the show.
@tysonsilvers4903
@tysonsilvers4903 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like with moe going to collage, she would have to mature and that would dorian would be there to keep that child, parent drama while letting moeisha delvop, also to give miles more plots. Atleast that my thought of why they put dorian there
@yummylemons172
@yummylemons172 2 жыл бұрын
@@tysonsilvers4903 IDK I mean Miles was pushed in the background even more so when Dorian came. During the 2 seasons with Dorian Miles only had 2 episodes about him and one was a B plot. He actually had more when Dorian wasn’t there
@tysonsilvers4903
@tysonsilvers4903 2 жыл бұрын
@@yummylemons172 I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you since I just watched the b.s. cliffhanger for the very last episode last night
@tiffanystennett1973
@tiffanystennett1973 2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm against the Dorian character, but I do agree that he really wasn't a necessary addition. The show was doing fine without him. Sometimes less is more and if it isn't broke don't fix it.
@bryheadassss
@bryheadassss 3 жыл бұрын
bro moesha extra asff 🤣
@maryammure5151
@maryammure5151 Жыл бұрын
RIP Denise dowse. This was such an epic and shocking moment in moesha show. 🙏
@jimas9775
@jimas9775 3 жыл бұрын
Mo-- to the--E--to the --cheatin dad!
@Filmation77
@Filmation77 6 ай бұрын
2:33 Frank had business trying to pull that "Im your father " crap Moesha had a right to be angry
@imerfi
@imerfi 3 жыл бұрын
He has a Duncle Daddy and a uncle lol
@ambiguousimpulseproduction365
@ambiguousimpulseproduction365 3 жыл бұрын
This is when Dee knew the show was over
@stretchmane6867
@stretchmane6867 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this like yesterday..this really hits home Nation wide
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Жыл бұрын
Is on your side. 😀
@mjb12ification
@mjb12ification 3 жыл бұрын
Notice everything went silent when Hattie said that Frank finally bought his son?
@MrMindMarvel
@MrMindMarvel 3 жыл бұрын
Frank was one of the most dysfunctional images of a black man on TV. We had so many positive black father's from James, Uncle Phil, Heathcliff and Carl Wislow, it's like they took this show in the year 2000 and tried to show negativity thru him and this show. Image is everything.
@lynne709
@lynne709 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s the part that I never understood: why didn’t Frank tell Aunt Hattie before she came to visit that his family didn’t know the truth about Dorian and careful not to mention it? She made a reasonable assumption that Frank wouldn’t have moved Dorian into his home without tell his wife and kids the truth. That just shows that Frank hasn’t just been lying to his family all of this time but himself as well. The truth brought too many consequences along with it and he just chose not to face it.
@yummylemons172
@yummylemons172 3 жыл бұрын
Well she didn’t know he was living there
@lynne709
@lynne709 3 жыл бұрын
@@yummylemons172 That’s my point. Aunt Hattie should have been briefed on the entire situation. She made a reasonable assumption when she saw Dorian living there that the secret had finally been revealed. Frank put her in such an awkward situation and that wasn’t fair to her.
@yummylemons172
@yummylemons172 3 жыл бұрын
@@lynne709 Okay gotcha
@missyginn2808
@missyginn2808 3 жыл бұрын
Cause he was an idiot
@natasham4609
@natasham4609 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Why not just say "Hey Aunt Hattie, Dorian is living with us now but he doeesn't know I'm him biological dad so don't bring it up" espcially when Frank knew evverything would blow up if it came out. I hate when shows have obvious plot gaps like that.
@hvactvwithsteve4460
@hvactvwithsteve4460 3 жыл бұрын
Frank didn’t have nothing in that cup the whole time
@myguychris7739
@myguychris7739 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one to notice 😂
@sachamusica1
@sachamusica1 3 жыл бұрын
The cup is full....of lies
@J.Anita24
@J.Anita24 3 жыл бұрын
@@sachamusica1 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SavingwJCAM
@SavingwJCAM 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@crescentartdesigns
@crescentartdesigns 2 жыл бұрын
Frank's actions of lies caused Moesha to move out.
@trilldadon100yago5
@trilldadon100yago5 3 жыл бұрын
Yooooo I remember this, it was crazy, never thought something like this would happen in a tv show
@kenyakinard513
@kenyakinard513 Жыл бұрын
Nobody wanted it to be this way it was a shock to all of them for them to put this in the script
@SurahOnline
@SurahOnline Жыл бұрын
*And THIS Ladies and Gentlemen….is the moment this show died.*
@ChicknCoopTv
@ChicknCoopTv 3 жыл бұрын
The moment the show went to straight crap..
@openworldview7894
@openworldview7894 3 жыл бұрын
That nigga was lying to everybody 🤣
@sbrooks729
@sbrooks729 2 жыл бұрын
Frank had Dorian when he was separated from his wife, who left him for non-related reasons. He didn't cheat. He still could have been more transparent about it earlier on.
@christiankelly6321
@christiankelly6321 2 жыл бұрын
She probably revealed that info on purpose LOL
@RealTalk1411
@RealTalk1411 2 жыл бұрын
She thought everyone had been told since Dorian said that he lives there now and Dee said it was an adjustment at first and now they are now one big happy family. It would be natural to think everyone was told.
@aidanfox8219
@aidanfox8219 2 жыл бұрын
This episode blew my mind so much and I said to my self things just got tense
@AR-xd3dp
@AR-xd3dp 3 жыл бұрын
The complicated elements of out of wedlock births, love affairs during martial separations,and parental responsibilities is what this storyline dealt with.Topics in which alot of people weren't for yet
@cowboyschamps8331
@cowboyschamps8331 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like my life. I found out who my real father was at the age of 47
@tiffanystennett1973
@tiffanystennett1973 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry that happened. It must have been pretty tough for you, especially having missed out who your real father was for so long. I hope you can heel. Best wishes. Thank you for sharing.
@shaharaeatmon3202
@shaharaeatmon3202 5 ай бұрын
This was a very emotional episode 😢
@emmanueljames9029
@emmanueljames9029 11 ай бұрын
The way Moesha said "what" I was waiting for the studio audience to laugh!!
@dragg2swagg
@dragg2swagg 3 жыл бұрын
Moesha made that whole thing about her
@RealTalk1411
@RealTalk1411 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't even give Frank a chance to explain what happened. She automatically assumed that Frank cheated on her mother. I'm sure that's not what happened. From what I'm gathering it sounds like Frank and Marguerite were separated at the time or even living apart. So technically that's not cheating.
@JadaCol
@JadaCol 3 жыл бұрын
Ray j was so fine back then
@madstookova
@madstookova 3 жыл бұрын
RIGHTTT😩😩
@tangemclemore4116
@tangemclemore4116 3 жыл бұрын
Now he just the average cornball that most ppl can't stand
@mrfoamposite
@mrfoamposite 3 жыл бұрын
It only took 30 seconds for my heart to drop😳
@crystalvouse6435
@crystalvouse6435 Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is he told his wife dee to her face this was his nephew and dad wasn't around and he's the damn dad.. SMH 🤦‍♂️
@georgemaster689
@georgemaster689 3 жыл бұрын
If either of my parents cheated and I had a sibling out of wedlock, I probably would not speak to them again!
@johnnywinstonjr
@johnnywinstonjr 3 жыл бұрын
Frank didn't cheat. Moe's and Miles mother left them.
@cartoonlover4479
@cartoonlover4479 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnywinstonjr I thought she died of cancer????
@Blaze6432
@Blaze6432 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnywinstonjr Someone didn't watch the show properly. It was a cheat.... literally explained in this video
@1talldaddy
@1talldaddy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blaze6432 no it wasn't a cheat.it was ;later explained that Frank and Marguerite were having problems in the marriage and she left for a while.
@dej.aesthetic
@dej.aesthetic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blaze6432 He didn’t cheat, they were on a break like Ross and Rachel 🤣
@nnamdi602
@nnamdi602 3 жыл бұрын
A lotta of y’all saying this killed the show on some BS. When this episode dropped this twist was a hit. Y’all just saw the interview the actor who played Frank gave & are just talking out y’all necks. What killed this show was the lack of fresh storylines once Moe got into college (miles getting kidnapped 😒) & UPN pulling the plug on a lot of black sitcoms.
@marilyn1984
@marilyn1984 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about UPN was pulling the plug on the late 2000s not 90s this wasn’t a hit Idk what you are talking about
@soulofachristian8704
@soulofachristian8704 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your comment until you used the word "black". Then I said "oh here we go, another person talking bout the black n white BS and keeping it alive"
@anthonyauthentic7934
@anthonyauthentic7934 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you are OLD ENOUGH. You would notice that you missed a big thing. People actually hated the fact this happened . It was actually a topic on BET and radio shows where people gave their opinion on it . There’s a reason why viewership dropped AFTER this episode. Nice try using the whole “y’all are sheep” card…
@marilyn1984
@marilyn1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyauthentic7934 exactly Wayyy down
@worldofcc8918
@worldofcc8918 3 жыл бұрын
@@soulofachristian8704 this is a black sitcom are you slow ?
@davejamal8627
@davejamal8627 3 жыл бұрын
I liked this story line it brought some realization to the show
@jslack8973
@jslack8973 3 жыл бұрын
This was so deep
@MyThoughtzAndOpinionz
@MyThoughtzAndOpinionz 3 жыл бұрын
2:25 Hold on, I’m still your daddy!!!
@wonderwoman5732
@wonderwoman5732 5 ай бұрын
Giving birth to a child doesn't Frank Dirty Balls Mitchell a father. It's about loving, supporting, and being honest with their children.
@ariesqueen9685
@ariesqueen9685 3 жыл бұрын
Real situations 💯
@crescentartdesigns
@crescentartdesigns 2 жыл бұрын
yup it made it more times worse
@Aria3210
@Aria3210 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaannnndddd that was the beginning of the end
@nonuorah2103
@nonuorah2103 2 жыл бұрын
the original Power dinner scene lol!
@d0narroyo
@d0narroyo 3 жыл бұрын
Moesha was just like Lisa Simpson, she always want to get the moral high ground to make herself feel superior
@d0narroyo
@d0narroyo 3 жыл бұрын
@Allison Edwards well technically he didn't betray them. The story was that moeshas mother left her and moeshas dad because and moved in with her sister because she didn't want to feel the pressure of raising a family and being an adult, they got married young. After that, moeshas dad started seeing another woman and got her pregnant, he was going to be with her and start a new life with her but 5 months later moeshas mom came back and her took her back. Of course Dorians mom couldn't raise a child on her own so Dorians father decided to raise him but his wife threaten to leave him again if he took the baby, and thats why his sister raised him instead. He never betrayed the family but he had to keep the lie to protect the family and moeshas mother reputation
@meatballsandwich5329
@meatballsandwich5329 3 жыл бұрын
Shuuuuut the fuck up.
@d0narroyo
@d0narroyo 3 жыл бұрын
@@meatballsandwich5329 im sorry its true, watch the episode, dont let your online balls get over your head
@LilBitJassy
@LilBitJassy 3 жыл бұрын
You don't even know the storyline. Nothing what you said is right or even true except for what we saw and heard in the scene. Moesha was right cause he messed up her live and tried to blamed it on her and lied to the whole family.. He cheated on Moesha mom and called it a mistake. He was not going to be with the woman after he cheated because Mo's mom had came back from staying with her sister and they decided to work it out. We don't know the reason why moesha mom had left or why they were having problems but they had gotten into a fight and she left to cool down or whatever. I don't think that moesha mom would have left frank had he taken the child I dont think he told her that he cheated on her which resulted in a child which would have caused more issues on the ones that they already had. He betrayed the family by cheating on their mom which fathered a child.
@averymerrick
@averymerrick 3 жыл бұрын
More like Brenda Walsh.
@blessingsbanks2508
@blessingsbanks2508 3 жыл бұрын
Frank would have never.......
@willsims2009
@willsims2009 2 жыл бұрын
He was a great dad and they put this crazy storyline in here!😢
@laurenlocd3180
@laurenlocd3180 2 жыл бұрын
Ray j skin was flawless
@xbreezy9843
@xbreezy9843 3 жыл бұрын
Man this was 1 of my favorite shows and episodes yo it too a while for Dorian to accept Frank as his dad and I hate it ended up getting cancelled especially with a cliffhanger of Myles getting kidnapped by Patience smh
@EDifyer881
@EDifyer881 3 жыл бұрын
this episode reminds me of wcw because it was the fingerpoke of doom oh and here's ray j aka the sitcom killer lol
@Kingbossdon
@Kingbossdon 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember this like it was yesterday and yea this was the ending of the show in a lot of ppl eyes. But the Aunt killed me after spilling all that tea she was like, I'm better off in a hotel I was done
@1talldaddy
@1talldaddy 3 жыл бұрын
yeah she was like "I fucked up.shit is about to go down so i'm out."lol
@cj8803
@cj8803 2 жыл бұрын
That was MAJOR TEA! I would have left too lol.
@dudefromkc6182
@dudefromkc6182 3 жыл бұрын
That hat Dorian had on..them early 2000's brands
@OmegaMan2525
@OmegaMan2525 3 жыл бұрын
It says Meoshe 😆
@dudefromkc6182
@dudefromkc6182 3 жыл бұрын
@@OmegaMan2525 the was one of the popular name brands
@parikathornton7246
@parikathornton7246 3 жыл бұрын
Storyline never bothered me. It just made me feel like the show was maturing. It showed a decent man like Frank can be low-down too. Honestly I never liked him but this did make him more human. And knocked him down a peg. I was tired of him acting like he walked on water. 💯
@ghariiscool
@ghariiscool 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@bbryant9455
@bbryant9455 3 жыл бұрын
Real shit. I felt like early on he had to "preach" all the time. It was the late 90s and all the black sitcoms were trying so hard to make the main male character like uncle Phil or Carl Winslow imo. Hell upn and them were even trying to make flex like that on one on one and LL on in the house 🤣🤣 this storyline with Frank made it a tiny bit more realistic imo
@misspriss2482
@misspriss2482 3 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree. A character can have flaws without it being that he cheated on his wife, particularly a black man. Black positive male role models, husbands and fathers especially, are nearly impossible to find on TV or in movies. So when they pushed this story line, it made him the typical black man. This made no sense.
@seoulnessie
@seoulnessie 3 жыл бұрын
I never liked Frank. I guess him always being hard on Moesha stemmed from his fear of meeting a rotten man like him.
@yummylemons172
@yummylemons172 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think it could have been done differently than having a cousin who didn’t know he was really his son. That’s too soap operatic to me similarly to how there have been some shows with a older sister who really turned out to be the character’s mom. It would have worked better if Dorian was a friend Hakeem’s who start coming by a lot and wanted to get to know the family and then revealing himself as Frank’s son or if he just randomly knocked on the door one day and revealed himself.
@arneshapowell1020
@arneshapowell1020 3 жыл бұрын
Ray j has started on here twice before he became Dorian. Remember he convinced Q to let him perform at his show at the Den. He and his dad on the episode when all the Fathers and Sons had that Seminar and Frank took Hakeem. And then this when he became Dorian.
@princelevi3733
@princelevi3733 7 ай бұрын
I hated when Frank said, "Who do you think you're talking to?" The girl is confused and upset.
@dgray9020
@dgray9020 Жыл бұрын
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