From Season 5, Episode 14: Secrets and Lies ALL RIGHTS GOES TO UPN AND BIG TICKET TELEVISION. #moesha #blacksitcoms
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@ttkell33103 жыл бұрын
Leave it up to that one Auntie who knows everything
@1talldaddy3 жыл бұрын
pretty sure the whole family except Dee,Moe and Miles knew.
@Meta_Meech3 жыл бұрын
Right, that one nosey, big mouth relative 🙄🙄🙄
@rikadojean-jacques39283 жыл бұрын
Who told Aunt Hattie that Dorian is Frank's son
@ttkell33103 жыл бұрын
@@rikadojean-jacques3928 IKR maybe grandma
@James00James003 жыл бұрын
...except for when to keep her mouth shut.
@cj88032 жыл бұрын
No one ever looked at Frank the same way after this episode. Moesha was right, HE LIED TO THE ENTIRE FAMILY FOR YEARS!
@Djchicago12 жыл бұрын
Hope moesha never forgives him
@sbrooks7292 жыл бұрын
@@Djchicago1 she did later in season 5
@Djchicago12 жыл бұрын
@@sbrooks729 mind your bussiness
@sbrooks7292 жыл бұрын
@@Djchicago1 go mind yours
@atltru28472 жыл бұрын
D Clark u are everywhere. LOL....
@dominicksansotta71733 жыл бұрын
This really mesed up the positive dynamic of the show .
@1talldaddy3 жыл бұрын
yeah and then later on found out he was a "break baby"
@kimberlymcneill72833 жыл бұрын
But it made it more real. Because everybody ain't tryna watch a black sitcom they cant relate to AT ALL. For the first time they showed real family issues
@deehines57503 жыл бұрын
@@kimberlymcneill7283 You're basically insinuating that every black family is severely dysfunctional...
@Rudeboy8763 жыл бұрын
Damn producers smh
@Gamingdoc3 жыл бұрын
@@deehines5750 exactly
@dantheman81523 жыл бұрын
The whole energy changed after this
@LEGENDPantherJennings3 жыл бұрын
When Countess Vaughn?Left It Went Downhill
@KosmikGawdess3 жыл бұрын
@@LEGENDPantherJennings because her show was poppin. I still watch it till this day lol.
@LEGENDPantherJennings3 жыл бұрын
@@KosmikGawdess cool
@superawesomegamer21703 жыл бұрын
Seasons 1 and 2 are my favorite seasons in this show and I started watching it when it came out on Netflix on August 1, 2020.
@simonstuart20033 жыл бұрын
This. Frank got on my nerves but got was too much and so stereotypical that it ruined the show.
@Turp283 жыл бұрын
It's incredible to see the exact moment when a show dies, cause this was it.
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall2 жыл бұрын
And the episode storylines were extremely lack luster after this. I stop watching on Netflix once I arrive to this episode 😂
@achmeez2 жыл бұрын
Nah, as soon as they said, “also starring Ray J.” That’s when the show died. But Brandy has always been a good big sister. I respect her nepotism.
@ERASEREPLACEPLACE11 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right.
@toddanthony66643 ай бұрын
The show was already on life support when Countess Vaughn left to do The Parkers. They pulled the plug with this episode.
@SirEJWStudiosandProductions2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons Sherly Lee Ralf, left the show. She said, she didn't like what they were doing to the positive black male figure of the show. And she was right
@chrispeplinski7306 Жыл бұрын
I think Sheryl Lee Ralph said the Dorian revelation portrayed frank as a typical deadbeat father.
@natesamadhi33 Жыл бұрын
true. however, lets be real tho, he wasnt that positive to begin with. being strict doesnt equal positive.
@BrianAwesome Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Sharyl left the show. I haven't watched this show, since UPN in 2001.
@Hinokami777 Жыл бұрын
@@natesamadhi33 yes he was dummy ? He wanted nothing but the best for his kids to prosper and achieve their goals and stay in school. Atleast he was around the other two. Moesha is the one who is bad , sneaking out , getting tatts , crushing on grown men, etc. she respects none of his rules
@ebonyrushharrington2197 Жыл бұрын
True !!!!! true!!!!!
@mr.russell53953 жыл бұрын
Ahhh. The beginning of the end of 'Moesha' as we knew it. Jumping the shark 😆😆😆
@prestonmcleod17263 жыл бұрын
Pretty much, the writing was on the wall.
@tyralikadiamondstar89603 жыл бұрын
This is really mess up how they did this show
@LEGENDPantherJennings3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@vincentmccauley40993 жыл бұрын
@@tyralikadiamondstar8960 Truly they did. It was not necessary at all. With him as the cousin they could have written countless stories around him. I agree with Sheryl Lee Ralph.
@favbrowngirl3223 жыл бұрын
What happen is this what made moesha end of so how lm lost?
@jonathancineus64243 жыл бұрын
Brandy always adds Ray J to everything she does and it goes down right after that.
@idkwhattoputasmyname95813 жыл бұрын
i think it’s more their parents than brandy.
@yell0wberry3 жыл бұрын
It’s not like she added him to The Game or Star
@christinaa59843 жыл бұрын
@@yell0wberry but star still got cancelled😭at this point brandy or ray j get everything they on cancelled
@yell0wberry3 жыл бұрын
@@christinaa5984 brandy had very little to do with star getting canceled, Lee Daniels is one of the worst script writers and directors we seen in recent memory, he seems to think he’s better than Tyler perry or even Spike Lee. He’s just a recipient of affirmative-action
@ariesqueenofdiamonds783 жыл бұрын
I didn't like how both was added on the sitcom One On One..Brandy's character helped break~up Briana & Arnaz😔
@teriewilliams86143 жыл бұрын
Sheryl Lee Ralph & William Allen Young went to the producers & BEGGED them NOT to move forward with this storyline!! They KNEW it would KILL the show, but of course they didn’t listen and it did!! Sheryl Lee Ralph admitted in a interview that once the decision was made to move forward with the storyline Moesha was OVER she was NOT returning to the show & she didn’t!!
@ghariiscool3 жыл бұрын
I never knew that ...is there a documentary on this show that explains it?
@tyreesimsmcpherson18443 жыл бұрын
@@ghariiscool unsung
@Meta_Meech3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because it made the show stereotypical. Which defeated the original premise of the show
@teriewilliams86143 жыл бұрын
@@ghariiscool…NO Sheryl Lee Ralph & William Young did interviews about it yrs ago!!
@teriewilliams86143 жыл бұрын
@@Meta_Meech…INDEED!!
@afropick933 жыл бұрын
That first "you cheated on my mother..." hit hard. Brandy was a phenomenal actress.
@Tno9013 жыл бұрын
No she ain't she's a murderer
@afropick933 жыл бұрын
@@Tno901 ... That too
@chars12393 жыл бұрын
@@afropick93 wait what are y’all talking about? How is she a murderer?
@afropick933 жыл бұрын
@@chars1239 She had two separate car crashes that resulted in the other drivers dying
@chars12393 жыл бұрын
@@afropick93 that’s horrible, I just looked it up. May they rest in peace.
@darealistmynizzle34213 жыл бұрын
The show went to shit when Kim Parker left but this moment is when the show really went down !! Smh
@favbrowngirl3223 жыл бұрын
Why is tht? you would think that it made the show be more interesting?
@favbrowngirl3223 жыл бұрын
@Just Passing Through thnk you
@yell0wberry3 жыл бұрын
It’s not like The Parkers went on to be the greatest sitcom of all time
@yummylemons1723 жыл бұрын
I sort of liked it when Kim left but only because they gave Niecy more to work with. Before Kim left I think she only had one episode about her
@Mannymoe33 жыл бұрын
@Just Passing Through didn't ruin it for me at all, we all make mistakes in life.
@robertdozier94813 жыл бұрын
Adding Ray-J, to any situation, is never a good decision... 😕
@aliccianeal64593 жыл бұрын
Wowww!! 😂😂😂😂
@tmack32563 жыл бұрын
the hell did ray j do why is everyone bashing him🤣
@robertdozier94813 жыл бұрын
@@tmack3256 how much time you got???
@jaxmaxwell28153 жыл бұрын
@@robertdozier9481 damn how bad is he
@robertdozier94813 жыл бұрын
@@jaxmaxwell2815 How much time you got???
@Faithful1ne073 жыл бұрын
This is why Sheryl Lee Ralph left and I don’t blame her.
@memelashey9743 жыл бұрын
Brandys mom pushed for Ray J to get on the show. That’s why he kept popping up on the show in earlier seasons.
@monkeybrown52183 жыл бұрын
So? That's her child
@memelashey9743 жыл бұрын
@@monkeybrown5218 I don’t understand how you’re phrasing your comment. If your asking; then “yes” that is her child. If your getting smart then get smarter and read my comment again because I didn’t state this as a insult.
@monkeybrown52183 жыл бұрын
@@memelashey974 If it wasn't a problem, then why are you commenting it? Did you comment how Sonya got Brandy the show? You get smarter.
@memelashey9743 жыл бұрын
@@monkeybrown5218 You BIG PRESSED lol 😂😭😂 Not you acting like y’all family 🤭🤦🏾♀️ Mama Norwood is this you ???
@monkeybrown52183 жыл бұрын
@@memelashey974 Yes this is me sugar, now hand mama her teeth
@youglogirl3 жыл бұрын
How to ruin a show tutorial! We wanted Moesha the college years not Moesha the Maury special
@Faithful1ne073 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Ms.NigeriaParker3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Prancer-jr6qr3 жыл бұрын
“You are the father”
@jadoresophya3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The boy drama. The friend drama. The professor drama.
@yezzerskii31663 жыл бұрын
White folks neva wanted to see a hood black family word
@mjb12ification3 жыл бұрын
Really can’t blame Hattie since she had no knowledge of it. Frank is mostly the blame for lying.
@1talldaddy3 жыл бұрын
yeah and something should have went off in their heads when she asked Dee did she have a problem with Dorian living there.
@rikadojean-jacques39283 жыл бұрын
It's not just Frank his sister Sandy too
@kobrathadon49563 жыл бұрын
But technically frank didn't cheat him and moesha mom split got back together and she gave frank a ultimatum. If frank bring Dorian home she leaving him I found that to be fucked up on moesha mom part
@jacobTheeCreole3 жыл бұрын
Frank is 100% the blame
@simplyjuannie51283 жыл бұрын
@@rikadojean-jacques3928 All Sandy did was adopt Dorian. It wasn't her place to tell Moesha's mom or anyone else.
@CapitalGainzz3 жыл бұрын
Imagine ending the show the way it ended. Y’all know what part I’m talking about. They definitely ran the show into the ground. It’s a shame because it was such a wholesome show. Taught me a lot about parenting and building a relationship with my children.
@s-wo87813 жыл бұрын
Didn't Lil Kim kidnap Miles?
@vanousisi81122 жыл бұрын
@@s-wo8781 no two men not lil Kim
@lboog0812843 жыл бұрын
This storyline killed this show. It totally wasn’t needed.
@KosmikGawdess3 жыл бұрын
They were trying to one up because the parkers was the shizz. But it backfired.
@GameOn712133 жыл бұрын
I think it's because they wanted Ray j's character to have some importance
@lataracalloway36363 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the storyline. It was adding Ray J
@adelestoker90533 жыл бұрын
Idk cause we found out that no matter what he never left his side. He was there for every single thing while he was growing up, didn't miss a beat and was there when he needed him the most.
@christian64553 жыл бұрын
@@KosmikGawdess parkers definitely did got popular
@ash59002 жыл бұрын
Dee was the real hero of the story she took on franks kids put up with both dorian and moesha attitudes helped Miles with his substance abuse its a shame they scrapped the idea of her and Frank having kids. Still can't get over that Frank never told her
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Жыл бұрын
She was smokin'!
@soslime6082 Жыл бұрын
@@Jahn_Pah_JonzMyles was
@talltalllady10 ай бұрын
Because she was too old to get pregnant. Is why they scrapped the idea.
@janfromcorporate2 жыл бұрын
This storyline didn’t ruin the show. It simply highlighted what was already wrong. Frank was a terrible father and Dorian brought that to the forefront
@Luvinmydejah972 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@DPPLOWD2 жыл бұрын
He was a great father
@MoonMoon-fx1op2 жыл бұрын
A terrible father? How? Cause he had rules?
@ImJustShayeB2 жыл бұрын
@@MoonMoon-fx1op he was toxic af and a hypocrite.
@MoonMoon-fx1op2 жыл бұрын
@@ImJustShayeB or he was human and made mistakes like everyone else
@wyntonmohorn2 жыл бұрын
This was the moment Moesha went from a comedy to a dramedy. This was the moment Moesha got real.
@queenking65243 жыл бұрын
Can’t blame Ray J for the show getting canceled. He had BEEN on the show previously reoccurring as one of Mo’s classmates when they were much younger.
@yummylemons1723 жыл бұрын
Well this is the first time he has played a major character though. Adding a new main character in middle of a series is always a risk
@queenking65242 жыл бұрын
@@yummylemons172 true but they mean Ray J specifically lol probably because One on One got canceled as well. I feel like the family dynamic became more deeper with him on there and it could’ve really went somewhere.
@yattamook3 жыл бұрын
this that time tyler perry wrote for the show 😂jk
@Babysista2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@johnnywinstonjr3 жыл бұрын
One of the most explosive scenes on Black television history! Didn't see it coming.
@essteex46563 жыл бұрын
Twas trash 🗑
@weareadrian3 жыл бұрын
Frank went from looking like Doug to Daquan in 3.7 seconds LMAO 😂
@brysonhardy90823 жыл бұрын
Don't blame Moesha, she's Innocent.
@aishag34763 жыл бұрын
This time lol
@jukilllsss28543 жыл бұрын
Naw shouldn’t no child come at they parents like that, that’s her parents business she need to stay in a child’s place and out of grown folks business
@ajohnson56933 жыл бұрын
@@jukilllsss2854 well I would be mad too thinking he’s my cousin whole time I had a brother I could’ve grown up with life would be so different. Then knowing your dad did that to your mom it would be hell it the mother did it to him.
@shadonnamarie933 жыл бұрын
@@jukilllsss2854 exactly stay, thats was between her mom and dad
@aaronkenyon71123 жыл бұрын
@@jukilllsss2854 So if your dad cheated on your mom, you wouldn't react the same way? I would and I did
@siyahseeker2 жыл бұрын
2:00 The way Moesha said "You cheated on my mother..." in that way... The passion in her voice is like, yeah. She pieced the clues together. Given this situation, can you really blame Mo for constantly knocking heads with Frank? Personally, I understand. How can you trust someone that led you on with a big lie? Simple answer: You can't.
@rose4mvp20122 жыл бұрын
I don't care how many times I've seen this, my heart drops every time I see this lol.
@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall2 жыл бұрын
This was when Brandy was so overworked in the industry she fainted on set, wasn’t eating or sleeping, she was getting tired of Moesha and this episode was the icing on the cake that started the Moesha downfall.
@carahood7208 ай бұрын
This. Is. Crazy
@Shon9tilR4 ай бұрын
Sucks! We all wanted more seasons.
@Breanna_monique Жыл бұрын
They had the NERVE to say "Mooesha!?" and "Who you talking to?" like she was in the wrong 😩
@redips5 ай бұрын
they have no right to say that after this.
@Hogwarts-Dropout3 жыл бұрын
If I told my dad to shut up I'd be six feet under in under sixty seconds.
@freemovies80212 жыл бұрын
Right that was between mo’s mother and Frank she was just a child she had no idea what was going on in their relationship it was none of her business she need to stay in a child’s place and at the end it turned out Frank didn’t cheat on her mother
@Kemon-2 жыл бұрын
Your dad is soft. My father would have bodied me in under 10 seconds.
@eberechi30252 жыл бұрын
@@freemovies8021 Y'all love to talk about a child's place but never want to talk about an adult's place. Why are you, as an adult, cheating on the mother of your child and betraying your entire family? Y'all just think you can do any fuckshit to your kids and get away with it because you're prequalified for AARP and are out here openly bragging about how you're raised by people with anger issues who don't see you as a human being deserving of a voice or at the very least morality. Notice how she would still be in a "child's place" had he done the right thing in the first place.
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Жыл бұрын
Well you DID go to gaywarts school. 😆
@d-Equalizer-b3 жыл бұрын
At least he brought them all raycons
@mossgeorge20013 жыл бұрын
I like how the morning after all this Miles was like Dad, it is okay and he needed that.
@sachamusica13 жыл бұрын
Yup he said I love you and low-key I teared up lol
@RapFanatic4ever2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he’s a kid he’s naive
@RealTalk14112 жыл бұрын
@@RapFanatic4ever I agree. Miles was too young to understand the magnitude of what just happened. You're right he's a kid. He's not like Moesha. He didn't feel betrayed or hurt or lied to. All Miles cared about was that he now had a brother.
@tiffanystennett19732 жыл бұрын
That was touching. I loved that part.
@SUMPhiB08 Жыл бұрын
@@RealTalk1411 Thank God he’s not like Moesha
@DJKeytronikzTV2 жыл бұрын
This SHOULD'VE been the series finale right here
@shaynestewart92972 жыл бұрын
Even better. After the fourth season they could've done a 3 hour TV movie. ending the series.
@Papi.Pharaoh10 ай бұрын
Frank has always treated Myles and Dorian better than Moesha because they’re boys. Dee was more of a parent to Moesha than Frank ever was. Her and Moesha had the right to be very upset with Frank about Dorian being his son.
@lildurk300410 ай бұрын
No one is perfect tho, however, we as children no matter how old we are, we dont forget. We may forgive you but we wont forget what you did.
@michaelcloete2712 жыл бұрын
This is the reality some of us grew up in. I think this is the most powerful of the episodes ever. This show was deep on so many levels. Thank you Moesha team.
@trinidadmetroid2 жыл бұрын
YES.even though this killed the show many people have an experience like this....where their 'cousin' is really their sibling.
@Landprince2 жыл бұрын
@@trinidadmetroid my cousins are my siblings. My mom married brothers.
@trinidadmetroid2 жыл бұрын
@@Landprince she married two brothers back to back?
@Landprince2 жыл бұрын
@@trinidadmetroid yes my uncle went to jail and she got with his brother (my dad) after that.
@honeywest39j952 жыл бұрын
@@Landprince no comment…😬
@gerawallstar348711 ай бұрын
2:45 Why are they laughing?! This is the most dark and serious moment from this episode.
@armanigoodman53029 ай бұрын
Moesha is the best TV show back in the year 1996 until 2001
@LMLification2 жыл бұрын
Frank brought this on himself by stepping outside of his marriage, producing a child and thinking his children should not be privy to the fact that they had a brother. Plus, his wife had a right to know before marrying Frank. You have to be up front with your children. Although my situation was different, I was pissed off that my parents tried to hide the fact that my brother was actually my half-brother and that my father adopted him after marrying my mom. Everyone knew except me until I saw his father ring the doorbell, and I answered the door. Be honest with your children.
@25JAZZLLY25252 жыл бұрын
Honey do you need a hug
@Djchicago12 жыл бұрын
@@25JAZZLLY2525 go back to ur brothel
@sbrooks7292 жыл бұрын
He was separated for other reasons. Frank then started dealing with Barbara after he figured that Marguerite was not returning. He didn’t cheat on his wife, but the situation is still messy.
@jeremymartin91482 жыл бұрын
You obviously didn't watch the entire show, before making this comment
@LMLification2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremymartin9148 No, I did, although not for a while, and am still not changing my stance. BYE.
@LilGrimey5Star3 жыл бұрын
The father was like “I hit it first” lol
@ghariiscool3 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀💀💀
@DynamicPublicRelationsBOSS3 жыл бұрын
Ha lol lort
@austinadegor35622 жыл бұрын
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@austinadegor35622 жыл бұрын
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@macywood46192 жыл бұрын
Hell naw!
@jeffrivera36123 жыл бұрын
I was ok with kim leaving , since she get her own show, but after this the show just wasn’t the same anymore. I also hated the Hakeem and moesha storyline as well. I liked them better as best friends.
@mrsbreazy74132 жыл бұрын
@Dominick Sansotta exactly they weren’t even cute together they just didn’t match
@maximusprime34593 жыл бұрын
This was some BS. They didnt have to do this.
@Kenya5800 Жыл бұрын
He always acted like he was perfect and downed everyone else for their flaws but hid the biggest secret.
@teriewilliams86143 жыл бұрын
It’s just like “Good Times” when John Amos wanted the SHOW to focus on ALL 3 kids & NOT just JJ! Of course they didn’t listen 🎧 & KILLED his character off the show instead! That decision caused the RATINGS to plummet and the show was NEVER the same afterwards!! The show got “boring” after he left!! John Amos did an interview about it a while ago!!
@lateshiachilds36403 жыл бұрын
Exactly I agree with that, producers should listen to actors/actress sometimes their opinion can matter also
@mrs.c27933 жыл бұрын
I saw his interview. Living Single was the done the same way.
@moeticjustuce3 жыл бұрын
Wait! JJ was killed off?!
@brennenjones66583 жыл бұрын
@@moeticjustuce No, not JJ, lol. But John Amos' James character was. That's where Florida's infamous "damn, damn, damn!" comes from after she finally accepts his death.
@s-wo87813 жыл бұрын
The later seasons of Good Times was still good don't front. I lived Penny!
@JustbeingCed3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this for the first time. It shock us when we saw this on a black tv show.
@airjoshy3 жыл бұрын
Ray J finds out he’s the love child and Moesha gets mad and makes it about her….
@myguychris77393 жыл бұрын
I tell ya bout women 🤣
@MissDeenaB943 жыл бұрын
Well.. to be fair... he did make her feel like complete shit for the smallest things so I figure she looked at it as you have some nerve. Plus her mama died so she’s emotional. It happens
@myguychris77393 жыл бұрын
@@MissDeenaB94 Look at the women coming in to justify 😂
@MissDeenaB943 жыл бұрын
@@myguychris7739 I’m the only female that said something sir
@myguychris77393 жыл бұрын
@@MissDeenaB94 Obviously you're not if I used the word "women"
@fizziealladin52823 жыл бұрын
This episode always held a special place in my heart.. I still remember when I was 15 years old seeing this episode.. Then I wrote a letter to her..
@tre1123ify2 жыл бұрын
Did she ever receive it or reply?
@NODE19753 жыл бұрын
This is why Dee left the show.
@lateshiachilds36403 жыл бұрын
I don’t blame her
@simonstuart20033 жыл бұрын
Don't blame her one bit
@johnny4048reads3 жыл бұрын
@@lateshiachilds3640 me either.
@wonderwoman57325 ай бұрын
@@lateshiachilds3640 Neither do I.
@TheRealMTR3 жыл бұрын
What's interesting is that I thought Ray J had a 'Maury Show's hat on
@RapFanatic4ever2 жыл бұрын
“You are the father”
@still730bf2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@Shon9tilR4 ай бұрын
“You finally brought your son home. I knew you would do the right…😳” 😂
@munimathbypeterfelton62512 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t just that this plot twist killed the series, it was also how the scene itself was directed. To have a hunky-dory outside character who never appeared on the show before or after this one single dagger of a moment casually mention that Dorian was Frank’s son was very inappropriate writing, period. Plus the fact that Frank and Aunt Hattie wanted to wait to reveal this dirty dagger of a secret to Dorian after he turned 18 showed sheer selfishness and passive-aggression on Frank’s part in particular. “Happy 18th Birthday, Dorian! Oh by the way, I am your father not your uncle.” 😡
@rockchick1282 жыл бұрын
Kids don't have to be 18 to know who their dad is
@TheGlittergirlxoxo2 жыл бұрын
@@rockchick128 we know, that’s common sense. The original comment was only referring to what Frank said in the show
@ClearandHealthyBoundaries2 жыл бұрын
Good point! When the aunt said at the end she was going to stay at a hotel I asked myself if she really did mean to come and turn the family's world upside down with some self-righteous agenda to let Dorian know the truth.
@frostyfreezyfreeze54 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting me know this character had never been on the show before this episode. That's what very special episodes do: Create characters you're never going to see again just for the sake of the story. My thing is, did nobody tell Aunt Hattie not to say anything? I find it hard to believe that only five people knew about this and there wasn't a strict agreement between all of them to keep it a secret until Dorian turned 18. And two of them were out of the picture, so how did Aunt Hattie think it was okay to just blurt that out after so many years of knowing about it?
@georgeniang Жыл бұрын
@@frostyfreezyfreeze54 she probably thought they knew
@yummylemons1723 жыл бұрын
Even before this storyline the Dorian character was a mistake. I’m rewatching the series on Netflix and I realize how if the episode isn’t about him then most of the B plots are. It was like the were really trying to push the character onto the audience He was an unnecessary addition to the show.
@tysonsilvers49032 жыл бұрын
I feel like with moe going to collage, she would have to mature and that would dorian would be there to keep that child, parent drama while letting moeisha delvop, also to give miles more plots. Atleast that my thought of why they put dorian there
@yummylemons1722 жыл бұрын
@@tysonsilvers4903 IDK I mean Miles was pushed in the background even more so when Dorian came. During the 2 seasons with Dorian Miles only had 2 episodes about him and one was a B plot. He actually had more when Dorian wasn’t there
@tysonsilvers49032 жыл бұрын
@@yummylemons172 I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you since I just watched the b.s. cliffhanger for the very last episode last night
@tiffanystennett19732 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm against the Dorian character, but I do agree that he really wasn't a necessary addition. The show was doing fine without him. Sometimes less is more and if it isn't broke don't fix it.
@bryheadassss3 жыл бұрын
bro moesha extra asff 🤣
@maryammure5151 Жыл бұрын
RIP Denise dowse. This was such an epic and shocking moment in moesha show. 🙏
@jimas97753 жыл бұрын
Mo-- to the--E--to the --cheatin dad!
@Filmation776 ай бұрын
2:33 Frank had business trying to pull that "Im your father " crap Moesha had a right to be angry
@imerfi3 жыл бұрын
He has a Duncle Daddy and a uncle lol
@ambiguousimpulseproduction3653 жыл бұрын
This is when Dee knew the show was over
@stretchmane68673 жыл бұрын
I remember this like yesterday..this really hits home Nation wide
@Jahn_Pah_Jonz Жыл бұрын
Is on your side. 😀
@mjb12ification3 жыл бұрын
Notice everything went silent when Hattie said that Frank finally bought his son?
@MrMindMarvel3 жыл бұрын
Frank was one of the most dysfunctional images of a black man on TV. We had so many positive black father's from James, Uncle Phil, Heathcliff and Carl Wislow, it's like they took this show in the year 2000 and tried to show negativity thru him and this show. Image is everything.
@lynne7093 жыл бұрын
Here’s the part that I never understood: why didn’t Frank tell Aunt Hattie before she came to visit that his family didn’t know the truth about Dorian and careful not to mention it? She made a reasonable assumption that Frank wouldn’t have moved Dorian into his home without tell his wife and kids the truth. That just shows that Frank hasn’t just been lying to his family all of this time but himself as well. The truth brought too many consequences along with it and he just chose not to face it.
@yummylemons1723 жыл бұрын
Well she didn’t know he was living there
@lynne7093 жыл бұрын
@@yummylemons172 That’s my point. Aunt Hattie should have been briefed on the entire situation. She made a reasonable assumption when she saw Dorian living there that the secret had finally been revealed. Frank put her in such an awkward situation and that wasn’t fair to her.
@yummylemons1723 жыл бұрын
@@lynne709 Okay gotcha
@missyginn28083 жыл бұрын
Cause he was an idiot
@natasham46092 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Why not just say "Hey Aunt Hattie, Dorian is living with us now but he doeesn't know I'm him biological dad so don't bring it up" espcially when Frank knew evverything would blow up if it came out. I hate when shows have obvious plot gaps like that.
@hvactvwithsteve44603 жыл бұрын
Frank didn’t have nothing in that cup the whole time
@myguychris77393 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one to notice 😂
@sachamusica13 жыл бұрын
The cup is full....of lies
@J.Anita243 жыл бұрын
@@sachamusica1 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SavingwJCAM3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@crescentartdesigns2 жыл бұрын
Frank's actions of lies caused Moesha to move out.
@trilldadon100yago53 жыл бұрын
Yooooo I remember this, it was crazy, never thought something like this would happen in a tv show
@kenyakinard513 Жыл бұрын
Nobody wanted it to be this way it was a shock to all of them for them to put this in the script
@SurahOnline Жыл бұрын
*And THIS Ladies and Gentlemen….is the moment this show died.*
@ChicknCoopTv3 жыл бұрын
The moment the show went to straight crap..
@openworldview78943 жыл бұрын
That nigga was lying to everybody 🤣
@sbrooks7292 жыл бұрын
Frank had Dorian when he was separated from his wife, who left him for non-related reasons. He didn't cheat. He still could have been more transparent about it earlier on.
@christiankelly63212 жыл бұрын
She probably revealed that info on purpose LOL
@RealTalk14112 жыл бұрын
She thought everyone had been told since Dorian said that he lives there now and Dee said it was an adjustment at first and now they are now one big happy family. It would be natural to think everyone was told.
@aidanfox82192 жыл бұрын
This episode blew my mind so much and I said to my self things just got tense
@AR-xd3dp3 жыл бұрын
The complicated elements of out of wedlock births, love affairs during martial separations,and parental responsibilities is what this storyline dealt with.Topics in which alot of people weren't for yet
@cowboyschamps83313 жыл бұрын
This sounds like my life. I found out who my real father was at the age of 47
@tiffanystennett19732 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry that happened. It must have been pretty tough for you, especially having missed out who your real father was for so long. I hope you can heel. Best wishes. Thank you for sharing.
@shaharaeatmon32025 ай бұрын
This was a very emotional episode 😢
@emmanueljames902911 ай бұрын
The way Moesha said "what" I was waiting for the studio audience to laugh!!
@dragg2swagg3 жыл бұрын
Moesha made that whole thing about her
@RealTalk14112 жыл бұрын
She didn't even give Frank a chance to explain what happened. She automatically assumed that Frank cheated on her mother. I'm sure that's not what happened. From what I'm gathering it sounds like Frank and Marguerite were separated at the time or even living apart. So technically that's not cheating.
@JadaCol3 жыл бұрын
Ray j was so fine back then
@madstookova3 жыл бұрын
RIGHTTT😩😩
@tangemclemore41163 жыл бұрын
Now he just the average cornball that most ppl can't stand
@mrfoamposite3 жыл бұрын
It only took 30 seconds for my heart to drop😳
@crystalvouse6435 Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is he told his wife dee to her face this was his nephew and dad wasn't around and he's the damn dad.. SMH 🤦♂️
@georgemaster6893 жыл бұрын
If either of my parents cheated and I had a sibling out of wedlock, I probably would not speak to them again!
@johnnywinstonjr3 жыл бұрын
Frank didn't cheat. Moe's and Miles mother left them.
@cartoonlover44793 жыл бұрын
@@johnnywinstonjr I thought she died of cancer????
@Blaze64323 жыл бұрын
@@johnnywinstonjr Someone didn't watch the show properly. It was a cheat.... literally explained in this video
@1talldaddy3 жыл бұрын
@@Blaze6432 no it wasn't a cheat.it was ;later explained that Frank and Marguerite were having problems in the marriage and she left for a while.
@dej.aesthetic3 жыл бұрын
@@Blaze6432 He didn’t cheat, they were on a break like Ross and Rachel 🤣
@nnamdi6023 жыл бұрын
A lotta of y’all saying this killed the show on some BS. When this episode dropped this twist was a hit. Y’all just saw the interview the actor who played Frank gave & are just talking out y’all necks. What killed this show was the lack of fresh storylines once Moe got into college (miles getting kidnapped 😒) & UPN pulling the plug on a lot of black sitcoms.
@marilyn19843 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about UPN was pulling the plug on the late 2000s not 90s this wasn’t a hit Idk what you are talking about
@soulofachristian87043 жыл бұрын
Loved your comment until you used the word "black". Then I said "oh here we go, another person talking bout the black n white BS and keeping it alive"
@anthonyauthentic79343 жыл бұрын
Well, if you are OLD ENOUGH. You would notice that you missed a big thing. People actually hated the fact this happened . It was actually a topic on BET and radio shows where people gave their opinion on it . There’s a reason why viewership dropped AFTER this episode. Nice try using the whole “y’all are sheep” card…
@marilyn19843 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyauthentic7934 exactly Wayyy down
@worldofcc89183 жыл бұрын
@@soulofachristian8704 this is a black sitcom are you slow ?
@davejamal86273 жыл бұрын
I liked this story line it brought some realization to the show
@jslack89733 жыл бұрын
This was so deep
@MyThoughtzAndOpinionz3 жыл бұрын
2:25 Hold on, I’m still your daddy!!!
@wonderwoman57325 ай бұрын
Giving birth to a child doesn't Frank Dirty Balls Mitchell a father. It's about loving, supporting, and being honest with their children.
@ariesqueen96853 жыл бұрын
Real situations 💯
@crescentartdesigns2 жыл бұрын
yup it made it more times worse
@Aria32103 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaannnndddd that was the beginning of the end
@nonuorah21032 жыл бұрын
the original Power dinner scene lol!
@d0narroyo3 жыл бұрын
Moesha was just like Lisa Simpson, she always want to get the moral high ground to make herself feel superior
@d0narroyo3 жыл бұрын
@Allison Edwards well technically he didn't betray them. The story was that moeshas mother left her and moeshas dad because and moved in with her sister because she didn't want to feel the pressure of raising a family and being an adult, they got married young. After that, moeshas dad started seeing another woman and got her pregnant, he was going to be with her and start a new life with her but 5 months later moeshas mom came back and her took her back. Of course Dorians mom couldn't raise a child on her own so Dorians father decided to raise him but his wife threaten to leave him again if he took the baby, and thats why his sister raised him instead. He never betrayed the family but he had to keep the lie to protect the family and moeshas mother reputation
@meatballsandwich53293 жыл бұрын
Shuuuuut the fuck up.
@d0narroyo3 жыл бұрын
@@meatballsandwich5329 im sorry its true, watch the episode, dont let your online balls get over your head
@LilBitJassy3 жыл бұрын
You don't even know the storyline. Nothing what you said is right or even true except for what we saw and heard in the scene. Moesha was right cause he messed up her live and tried to blamed it on her and lied to the whole family.. He cheated on Moesha mom and called it a mistake. He was not going to be with the woman after he cheated because Mo's mom had came back from staying with her sister and they decided to work it out. We don't know the reason why moesha mom had left or why they were having problems but they had gotten into a fight and she left to cool down or whatever. I don't think that moesha mom would have left frank had he taken the child I dont think he told her that he cheated on her which resulted in a child which would have caused more issues on the ones that they already had. He betrayed the family by cheating on their mom which fathered a child.
@averymerrick3 жыл бұрын
More like Brenda Walsh.
@blessingsbanks25083 жыл бұрын
Frank would have never.......
@willsims20092 жыл бұрын
He was a great dad and they put this crazy storyline in here!😢
@laurenlocd31802 жыл бұрын
Ray j skin was flawless
@xbreezy98433 жыл бұрын
Man this was 1 of my favorite shows and episodes yo it too a while for Dorian to accept Frank as his dad and I hate it ended up getting cancelled especially with a cliffhanger of Myles getting kidnapped by Patience smh
@EDifyer8813 жыл бұрын
this episode reminds me of wcw because it was the fingerpoke of doom oh and here's ray j aka the sitcom killer lol
@Kingbossdon3 жыл бұрын
I still remember this like it was yesterday and yea this was the ending of the show in a lot of ppl eyes. But the Aunt killed me after spilling all that tea she was like, I'm better off in a hotel I was done
@1talldaddy3 жыл бұрын
yeah she was like "I fucked up.shit is about to go down so i'm out."lol
@cj88032 жыл бұрын
That was MAJOR TEA! I would have left too lol.
@dudefromkc61823 жыл бұрын
That hat Dorian had on..them early 2000's brands
@OmegaMan25253 жыл бұрын
It says Meoshe 😆
@dudefromkc61823 жыл бұрын
@@OmegaMan2525 the was one of the popular name brands
@parikathornton72463 жыл бұрын
Storyline never bothered me. It just made me feel like the show was maturing. It showed a decent man like Frank can be low-down too. Honestly I never liked him but this did make him more human. And knocked him down a peg. I was tired of him acting like he walked on water. 💯
@ghariiscool3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@bbryant94553 жыл бұрын
Real shit. I felt like early on he had to "preach" all the time. It was the late 90s and all the black sitcoms were trying so hard to make the main male character like uncle Phil or Carl Winslow imo. Hell upn and them were even trying to make flex like that on one on one and LL on in the house 🤣🤣 this storyline with Frank made it a tiny bit more realistic imo
@misspriss24823 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree. A character can have flaws without it being that he cheated on his wife, particularly a black man. Black positive male role models, husbands and fathers especially, are nearly impossible to find on TV or in movies. So when they pushed this story line, it made him the typical black man. This made no sense.
@seoulnessie3 жыл бұрын
I never liked Frank. I guess him always being hard on Moesha stemmed from his fear of meeting a rotten man like him.
@yummylemons1723 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think it could have been done differently than having a cousin who didn’t know he was really his son. That’s too soap operatic to me similarly to how there have been some shows with a older sister who really turned out to be the character’s mom. It would have worked better if Dorian was a friend Hakeem’s who start coming by a lot and wanted to get to know the family and then revealing himself as Frank’s son or if he just randomly knocked on the door one day and revealed himself.
@arneshapowell10203 жыл бұрын
Ray j has started on here twice before he became Dorian. Remember he convinced Q to let him perform at his show at the Den. He and his dad on the episode when all the Fathers and Sons had that Seminar and Frank took Hakeem. And then this when he became Dorian.
@princelevi37337 ай бұрын
I hated when Frank said, "Who do you think you're talking to?" The girl is confused and upset.