MOM REACTS TO JOYNAR LUCAS - Im Not Racist

MOM REACTS TO JOYNAR LUCAS - Im Not Racist
Original video: • Joyner Lucas - I'm Not...

[@MiguelRodriguez-fb7ml]

i mean she did say both had points in the end ... for some of you who didnt watch the whole thing .

[@cocotaveras8975]

Miguel Rodriguez I don't know if that really classifies the point which is to come to a greater understanding between two peoples.

[@Rosa_4x]

@@cocotaveras8975 bruh shutup you lame as hell you know what she means crack head

[@hhh-fs3li]

alot of stereotypes with some facts.

[@christiantatom9305]

If a white fam reacted to this and said “right” to something the white dude said all hell would break lose

[@treyhayes3854]

Facts

[@DanielJ096]

True, not saying blacks play the victim with race but there very touchy around the subject, like yes slavery happened but anyone who’s under the age of 50 at least has not felt that same sort of pain, I understand racism still exists and it must be shit to deal with but don’t talk like other races don’t understand how it must feel there 2 different types of racism that the people of that generation went through it’s disrespectful to compare I think 🤔 💭

[@MagnumDB]

I wonder why that is…. Maybe because it was whites who enslaved blacks and still are in control enough to suppress black people?

[@CamLovesPawg]

@@larajanebousseau1431 that was racist bro

[@CamLovesPawg]

@@DanielJ096 whenever I’m in a argument and you bring it up that shit hurts

[@itsSauter]

Already your mum judges the guy at the start saying "the guy looks racist" lol

[@CrustyUgg]

Hanouch1996 a hate doesn't make someone racist. I hate ppl like you.

[@levilima9925]

You guys don't hate each other. You guys haven't seen one another in person so how can you hate at first glance? This is bullshit. Let's all have a drink and have a good conversation about this whole thing.

[@SuperKilroy123]

+Levi Lima because the people who responded are children and get angry over stupid things. If he's supposed to look racist, why are you getting mad at this guy for stating his mom thought he was racist? Wouldn't that make his appearance successful? ?????

[@gremlin5813]

All black people are racist. Facts

[@johngold309]

LOL look at your mom, she agreed with everything what the black one said...."how unexpected"

[@god_skaw8680]

If you chose sides when you watched this, then youre the problem. It means you see color instead of seeing them as a person, and you missed the whole point of the video. You say it was deep but clearly chose sides.

[@Zainiology]

Nah the point of the video is not to stop seeing color. The point is we should talk to each other.

[@RavenMacy]

We SHOULD see race and differences and clear the air , talk it through , this don't say anything is not working , it just means the barriers and misunderstandings are hidden not eliminated , say how you feel and why you feel a certain way and maybe someone else will have a different side , open your mind , we are all the same we are also all different, lets enbrace that instead of pretending it doesn't exist. I don't usually comment but this is totally what the song/artist is trying to convey. Peace ✌

[@Esonar]

Everyone sees color, the point of the video is to stop acting like you don't and open dialogue to heal wounds. Any asshole saying they dont see color is lying their ass off.

[@arczero1623]

Naw taking sides as a gut reaction isn't the problem (if you're saying only agreeing with one side and saying the other one is racist and ignorant, then yeah I agree that makes someone part of the problem). Joyner gives us a side to relate to but then we hear some truth on each side and some racism on each side (both say you're blaming anyone but you're own race or that they're not racist). By the end of the video he wants you to see that both are twisted and we need to get past a lot of that. Skin is just one part of us, we have so much more in common than we do different.

[@captainstabbin5374]

@SymbolicActs you should appreciate and understand and want to be there friend regardless of race

[@ILLiteSociety]

Point is...both sides had facts. But both sides lack understanding

[@ED-lf6nt]

Great way to put it

[@mrackz5694]

the country is ran hy whites though lmao

[@ILLiteSociety]

@@mrackz5694 whites don't consider jews as whites my brother lol

[@lukanovkovic8498]

@@mrackz5694 But should not that be normal since whites make majority and country was founded by whites and is world power becouse of whites?

[@ekerilaz723]

@@mrackz5694 Pretty sure everyone has an equal vote regardless of race

[@paxonearth]

54 year old white dude here. I don't think this song is about one side being right or wrong; it's about both sides being so angry and so busy pointing fingers that they can't hear each other, even when the truth is coming at them.

[@1974spr]

What I love about this is the two sides in the video are the stereotypical view of racists on both sides. Not hearing, but thinking they know everything about the other. Then when you break it down most of us want to know about the other and would prefer to sit and talk and understand each other. I sound stupid but that hug at the end got me. Grown man tearing up over this.....

[@jaquiezdouglas9394]

To be honest. Dude you ruined the mystique of the video before you even played it. You told your mom that Joyner wasn't in the video. So she already knew that the white guy wasn't rapping. The whole point was to anger you then grab you in the end. Because most people would be under the impression that was white guy speaking in the beginning until it all came together. But the fact that you told her Joyner wasn't in it, you took that perspective away from your mom. Just saying.

[@GhostHunterWV]

Agreed brother!

[@shadowlady4369]

TRUE DAT!

[@DanielJ096]

His mum was ignorant anyway, she didn’t want to listen to the real that the white guy had to say, but when the black guy spoke his truth she agreed and sided with him, and that’s the problem, understand both sides and we can all agree to disagree and be happy, why does everybody have to make things so complicated and difficult

[@Salik96]

​@@DanielJ096 Nah she did listen to it but everything he said was just based off of stereotypes about black people.

[@andrendenum1]

Yeah, I stopped immediately after her smiling and approving of reaction to smacking off the white dude's hat like some kind of payback to today's generation; today's civility. And this is why the pettiness continues when she isn't involved with people far along in the evolvement are beyond this. Your mom doesn't appear to be that old but still immediately perpetuates (or doesn't degate) the real message behind the video. I had hopes she would give a response that was based on "constructive feedback" - giving explanation that wasn't superlative but that's not what she did. Instead she bought into her opinion that 1) contrasted the intent of the song and its purpose, and 2) propagates a singular side of the subject.

[@andrendenum1]

@Sergiodg2q3 or Sergio2q3 for gaming I was voicing my reaction to a reaction. My comments were mere opinions. My only request for constructive feedback is that I would hope people to go into a "first reaction" on a subject that has clearly two differentiated sides, to go from a viewtake that should be unbiased until the end and then making a clear, focused reaction opinionated to the other side without objectively hearing both sides then making a constructive and intuitive response.

[@Lions1986]

yeah i stuck with it and she did say both had points but dude getting violent shouldnt get that kind of response we all know had it been the white guy that did that she wouldnt have had the same response

[@CrustyUgg]

He looks racist and creepy bc of a hat? Lol... Yikes. If the tables were turned

[@sierracoleman1394]

Helen Keller 2.0 right?! Reverse racism at its finest!

[@jwill676]

I was gonna say somthin similar about her an her son then I seen u said it so I'm not gonna lower myself cuz all races are rascist in some kind of way weather it's ment to be that way or not so she kinda fucked up starting the video of like that I think it jus shows her true colors tho

[@slyfoxfan0799]

there's nothing called reverse racism :v

[@selemsales]

Omg,reverse racism OK BITCH

[@jsn23nc]

Maybe wearing a MAGA hat would make a white look racist. Just saying

[@tobiasaasvang3146]

People need to stop taking sides🤦‍♂️u don’t understand the point of this song..

[@mylefnepple1936]

People need to stop whining about people “not getting it.”

[@ascarmen42]

Lil santt what does your message even mean? Your grammar is terrible, no offense but if you’re gonna make a long paragraph you should at least check if it makes sense.

[@angrybear6333]

Yup,I've watched about 9 or 10 reactions to this song so far and I find it interesting alot of black people are bias and disagree with the white argument and agree with the black rebuttal. Personally both sides are on point and it's all about understanding each other and coming together on common ground.

[@quiannasmith3566]

Tf the white guy was talkin wierd stop judging people for having a opionon any regular person who just watched this was confused shut tf up

[@yor6324]

@@larajanebousseau1431 u goofy asf u was under most of these comments and yet the meaning went right over your head

[@sandyleewhite]

I think the meaning to this song went completely over your heads!!!

[@Lions1986]

@@larajanebousseau1431 no it def went over theirs

[@Salik96]

​@@Lions1986 How?

[@godspi4609]

More folks that didnt get the point..smh

[@godspi4609]

@@larajanebousseau1431 no thanks

[@s1ate06]

The reason why I like your vids so much is because every song I want to see your react you always have it

[@thomaslaisney1004]

"He looks racist and creepy" kinda falling into the point of the entire video on understanding and not judging one another lol

[@graeme922]

The irony in this reaction

[@spiralout1999]

From a white mom of 3 teen boys to your mom, you raised a very talented and enlightened son❤

[@roal3303]

Love yo moms young bruh.I dont have that gift anymore.She is a lovely lady with all due respect.. haven't seen a sista like that with my type of reaction in many years, thats the type of sista to give a man strength to move mountains, glad to see some still here. Respect, and Love to moms.

[@rubenclark8017]

The paragraph was the most important part! It explains how we have been and still are being played against each other!

[@eiliyarazif3929]

I love how netflix is on in the background ;))))

[@UFCMaster]

*How is saying "all lives matter," a protest against "black lives matter?" They're just saying everyone life matters, even inlcuding blacks.*

[@GOGOAKUMAN]

haha the mom was ready to punch the screen lol!

[@Jaycom-kn6hd]

"...u gave us donald trump , and that was payback 4 that ...." and ur mom agreed. Im sad, cause racists r on both side . U guys r against racism and still carry some urself in ur heart . And thats whats Joyner wanna show us . Racism starts in us , not in others. Dont pick a side , guys . Pick humanity !!!

[@thebiasedreview5432]

True that!

[@soulnemesis2793]

Telling her joyner aint in the video changed her reaction 🤔

[@helema23]

Just so yall know there were white slaves, they were called "christian" under the code of law at the time, also the first man to be ruled to own another man in the court of law was a black man. There ARE two sides to a coin and it has nothing to do with "race" we are all of the human race just different ethnicities and cultures. Those in power want us to fight amongst each other so that the masses are easy to control. BTW when i say all lives matter it isnt against the black lives matter movement it is to say that we all matter and that we should be at peace with each other and not fighting. If we all sat down and had a peaceful chat I am pretty sure the majority would come to the conclusion that it is the ones in power that are creating this strife.

[@jahnelleoforinkansah6550]

Thank you I have to right an essay on the song

[@nerdybirdy4459]

Its kinda sad that the mom seemed to not take any of the "white" side points and head nod and mmhmm/smile to the other side. I think explains the problem that the song and feelings are meant to evoke to see both sides. I get at the end she rationalized her side, but seems like she didn't want to accept what the song was trying to convey. I love this song and appreciate the both sides and shift in points of view. Nice video - just wish the mom could take herself outside of her personal bias and try to accept the problems on both sides

[@jakeambrose5414]

Perfectly said!

[@brecarter366]

Notice the white guys says floors(one is higher than the other) n the black guys says sides(same level)

[@aidieslater8351]

bre carter I always just assumed that floors rhymes with yours and sides loosely rhymes with mine (a lot more that floor does anyway)

[@jahnelleoforinkansah6550]

Oh yeah your right

[@marcmartel7542]

If you choose a side your in the game of the systeme, we are one species on 1 planet...we have to share it as individuals with love...!

[@zavierspelker]

More Mom reactions🔥

[@willywonka7932]

if you dress like a thug people and also police will think you are a thug Thats what the line is trying to say at least it makes most sense like that

[@donovancoles6176]

Oliver Seiz do you mean in expensive suits and tuxedos like the original gangsters I.e. Al Capone John Gotti and such. Or maybe the way African Americans dress has been generalized #imjustsaying

[@MsTamika888]

you can't judge a book by it's cover

[@franzjosephk6664]

Donovan Coles pretty sure Al Capone wasn’t a “thug”. The head of an entire mafia family isn’t a “thug”.

[@louieking567]

that chick sassy who's says you can't? we all do it. especially when someone sags their pants, wears do rags and does pitiful stuff, you're a thug. nobody does that just for fun.

[@SpringzFTF]

Who decided that thugs dress a certain way?

[@gfgfjjfgjfkfjgj9672]

i love your mom nothing fucking weird she is a good person

[@sillyrabbit7272]

As soon as someone gets told that jorner not in the vid, the reaction no longer real

[@kalebmckay4417]

“Take that dew rag off” *cough

[@gee-gee9715]

I had the same reaction your mom had when i first seen the video ...thank you for getting your mom in on your venture ...that was sweet

[@Kittintin1]

Eugena Oden thats kinda racist tho

[@sexysimon1114]

I wish we can all just get along. Nobody is right in this situation. It’s ignorance that’s the problem not race... :(

[@TheConnonedrum]

I love your mom's reaction to the video. It's very true. Both sides had given facts to the situation.

[@mryoung6090]

The Connonedrum Erik killmonger pic

[@rayan0429]

i mean she did not really seam to like the facts the white guy said and liked everything the black guy said so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@DanielHX]

@@rayan0429 cause the white verse is tossing stereotypes as if it applies to every black person while the black verse is describing the mindset of what most blacks are going through. It could of been nice to have facts vs facts but it was facts vs reason which is why whites and blacks can relate to one side more than the other. If it was facts vs facts then sides would be all there is.

[@hajsagahs1009]

The Connonedrum yet she didnt show it

[@BeauDerosa]

I think moms showed nuance in the face of emotional subjects and imagery and I commend her for that. Awesome

[@Kaleinohea-]

You and your mom is having a discussion! Most Excellent Reaction Thank you. Yes prison is slavery

[@marktaylor655]

Moms totally missed the point.

[@mikewinkens7526]

It funny to see when people can't admit that rasict and stereotyping works both ways. And finger-pointing works both ways. Instead of working it out together. If we keep living in the past things will never change.....

[@captainwonderbar1657]

It seems like your girl has a problem absorbing the point of this video.

[@joshuak2810]

Great video guys. God bless.

[@stealthoverflow]

With due respect, saw a perfect example here in this video of how the "cycle continues" as Joyner mentioned in the rap.

[@blaisea2652]

Take that durag off, the guilt 😂😂😂

[@jamesbrandonto193]

My grandpa is black and he said the mom was racist.

[@joepage9447]

The point of the song and video is that both "characters" who were portrayed ,were spouting facts, stereotypes and extremes , were judging each other based off those criteria,instead of who the person actually is. It's saying we all come.from.different backgrounds, have different histories, and have different cultures, yet we are all human. You need to get to know a person before you judge them and before you believe the stereotypes and extremes that are out there. By siding with one character or the other, you are proving exactly what divides us as human.

[@mata3924]

best part is that y'all forget fact that black dude is talking in both first n second part of song :p

[@MagnumDB]

The majority of the white mans view is an attack on blacks while the majority of the black man’s view was a defense of the white mans verse. But both sides were written by the same black man. I kind of wish they either had a black rapper who wrote the black verse and a white rapper who wrote the white verse. Or, now that Joyner wrote a white verse, have a white guy write the black verse.

[@joeshmo4892]

Joynar said, if you took a side, you missed the point.

[@ollum16]

Truth hurts. It's hard to admit shortcomings.

[@richardlacourse2635]

Just saying hi to the beautiful mama Jama

[@xDoomfirex]

The two men are characters that represent what each side sees the 'other' as and if the 'other' isn't you, you can dehumanize them en mass as a stereotype.

[@xDoomfirex]

whatifiwasabunny I never denied any of that(that other countries have less of a problem)? Also what part of what I said isn't my own thoughts they are my own thoughts I know a lot of people that say that they're not characters and that's what they are the ment represent the extremes of both sides the video is meant to help no one's perfect I guess. But it's trying to show the people only see a stereotype instead of trying to see that what they're yelling at her complaining about is a character for both sides and not saying one side's more right than the other.

[@zyzz5834]

u guys are the ppl who Joynar and the song warned us about.. ur mum said right on every black point.. like its ok dude we take it.

[@leticiaalves7913]

Is it just me or does Eli look like g herbo in this a little 😂

[@susanavdecastro]

I liked the mom's reaction...is real.

[@dazbracken8177]

First thing your mom says is racist. Damn great start

[@nickwhite2377]

Dare you to listen to I’m sorry by him

[@Thirty-7200]

Keep pushing

[@bigboiteejay1464]

Have her doing a reaction to Freaky Friday Chris Brown video

[@svrgn7274]

so u just gonna wear a du-rag on my birthday.

[@soonami4209]

I grew up in a predominantly Hispanic city I’ve been jumped, refused service, and shot at; all because my skin tone even though my whole family had the skin tone I didn’t. I think it’s just the way the government keeps us divided by starting race wars by negative appropriation of the media we all just need to clutch up together and take the fight to them!

[@mercygrace9314]

he's not racist...He's a actor that was hired for this the voice is a black rapper

[@hockeylife2978]

I hate it when they tell them that the white guy isn’t the rapper, the point of a reaction video is the surprise factor of the video

[@levilima9925]

I think if you haven't told your mom about the rapper not being in the video her reaction would be better but still it was a good reaction.

[@jorgeaguilera9523]

Boooy!!! that look you got from your mom at 3:27!! hahaha you are in trouble!!...

[@sajennaimvu807]

Black don’t crack bruuh

[@b.gloman_]

Sajenna IMVU she look amazing

[@pateman30]

stay on those training wheels

[@Robkinggozer]

A frustrating argument for me is that supposedly because it's hard to get a job, you're forced to sell drugs. That's just not true, because the big majority of poor people, black or white, don't deal drugs. They might use drugs though...

[@roal3303]

no comment on the rest of those who can't put yourselves in someone elses position. Whats understood doesn't have to be explained..lol...Short sighted, narrow minded, opinions are the reason we are all still dealing with this. Walk a mile in my shoes and you would take them off and throw them as far as you could in just a few steps. So stop criticizing moms, when she has seen and dealt with more than most of you will in 2 lifetimes.

[@jamisonreynolds9949]

Your mom is cute bro.

[@jwill676]

An the sooner if ever we get that straightened out an I no their is always gonna be bad people I'm jus hoping the children to those bad people can realize so they don't follow in suit that their is room for us all an so much love out their for everyone to enjoy an laughs an family that it will be so much better if we all can jus leave it alone...it takes a big person to admit they was wrong I was wrong for getting upset at the beginning of this video I apologize...peace

[@taronboyce82]

I’m white but I agree with everything said on both sides but that don’t make either side racist at all it’s just opinion and misunderstanding. But I noticed how you both frown on the white mans opinion but sit there smiling at everything the black guy says. That speaks volume in itself. #justsayin

[@rosspettitt2156]

Cravez IV he’s comment was 100% true white people react and agree with both sides and black people react and only smile and go with what he says

[@arealblackjew2745]

If you were black you would understand my brother.

[@taronboyce82]

Ace Boogie what a black thing to say lol, just so you know it wasn’t just black people that where enslaved, working class white people where also used as slaves but for some reason that is never spoken about, most of you probably know fuck all about the true history of slavery but u all just jump on the bandwagon so u have something to moan about and use as a excuse for certain things and it’s fucking pathetic

[@CrustyUgg]

Yesssss this. The comment about how he looks racist bc of a hat.. If the tables were turned can u imagine the outrage?

[@na3mia]

It's just because the white man is attacking the black man and the black man is defending himself. Simple.

[@jimwise5292]

She Know's

[@GhostHunterWV]

Moms beautiful! Be proud of her bro!

[@TheJmaillard1]

you should have gone back to the saying at the end, it's the whole point of the video... oh well ^^

[@datboiiwes]

Not choosing sides of course. Most amazing music video in my opinion. But theres a secret message in there. The white dude screamed and yelled but never did anything physically. But when the black dude was rapping he slapped his hat off and flipped the table.

[@theboothakarichierich8129]

Wow both sides were more to the extreme that was the point your moms was supposed to see that. She agreed with alot of the black side thats the prob we gotta understand neither side was 100 percent right. Shades of Grey.

[@omegamoe]

There r three sides ,black side, white side , and the true side

[@leomingo9388]

how does african slavery reflect american white and black relationship, african slavery has been there long before the formation of the US and it's black on black

[@kefkahkefkah]

Chattel slavery existed in america. And after that Jim Crow laws. If you cant see how it affects the race situation today i think you are to stupid to get it. Btw slavery still exists in africa, and its not "black on black", its yoruba on dinka, or sudanese on bantu, or somali arabs on bantu, you know they dont all identify as the same people?. Btw the Dahmey slave trade took on a vaster role from tribal raidings when the market blew up and the need for imported slaves was at its highest.

[@kavaniawilson860]

Um because slavery was in America and after it ended Jim Crow happened and ended in just the 60s. So yeah it has a lot to do with the black and white relationship

[@naarayah9472]

Ur mom looks like Faith Evans! Only smarter! Glad u involved ur Mom in the video for her take

[@mattbudesa3038]

Not that smart since she chose sides and didn't get the point of the video.

[@jwill676]

I can admit wen I'm wrong so I will say I apologize to that women for bout to say some stupid shit an she took the message at the end the way I did she was cool about it an I feel the same way race is an issue in this country an I feel the only way to break this crazy ugly cycle is to talk about it an be understanding to both sides an realize were not in the old days anymore an if it can be talked about it should an both sides should jus figure a way to live in respect an humble themselves to look past all the shit going on an realize that one actions has nothing to do with a race as a whole

[@maddievictoria4947]

Personally.. I don't think of all lives matter as a protest to black lives matter.. because all lives really do matter and your skin color has nothing to do with that. All living things matter.

[@Miguelalejandro1997]

If sombody says a black dude looks like a raper everybody is mad but if it’s a white guy it’s all different 😂

[@dastreetspart3370]

your mom said one thing and that's a reaction video?

[@youngmoney1143]

Can y'all do a reaction video to Tupac blasphemy

[@moneybarksdale6623]

Damn I love your mom's.

[@Paul-es9el]

Also I mean I’m white and def know about BBQ, kool aid , loose change scraping to get food or cigarettes cause I’m so broke, know about 2 step for sure, that’s not just black culture for those things, I’m just saying.

[@stevenlugo4652]

Ppl always wanting for the black to rap still dint yet the message

[@dorout1]

Don't judge a book by its cover. A lot of innocent non-racist white people who might physically appear to be racist are constantly and ignorantly labelled as a racist despite lacking a racist bone in their body. It's all about hearing both sides of the story before you make any judgement. However, I am white, but can personally relate to both sides since I grew up in a poor multi-cultural neighborhood.

[@dianesmith7208]

I want to say something here. I grew up as the only white family in a black neighborhood. I had black friends, Latino friends Asian, etc. my 2 bests growing up were black. Did I think of it in terms of, “oh yes. My best friend is a southwest BLACK baptist?” Hell no. They were my friends and I didn’t give 2 shits about color. BUT! Although I grew up in a black community, I have never and will NEVER make the claim that I know all about the black community. As a white person, there is NO way for any white person to make that kind of claim. I’ve been to black churches, black weddings, funerals, barbecues, dinner, black clubs. I know how it felt to be other, even though I wasn’t treated any different than anyone else. How would it feel the other way around? To be the only black in a white persons world. I bet it’s scary. These are folks who have in the past hung your daddy on your front lawn. Folks who whipped you for not moving fast enough. Who spit on you, threw rocks at you and your babies. My family wasn’t American a generation back. We are from Hungary. But that doesn’t matter does it? Look all I’m saying is we do need to be mindful of where the hurt and pain come from in the black community. Understand and make damn sure it never comes here again. The world as a whole need to also understand that in Africa it is going on RIGHT NOW! Why is nobody helping these people? Good God! ✌️

[@Chance-98]

Notice the white dude used words only and the black guy started throwing shit and getting physical.

[@rogergrant9605]

If as black people our first reaction is emotional anger we will always loose . Emotional minds can never make good decisions it will hamper rational planning and thinking . To know an enemy you must listen and study in order to counter . Just making a point, emotion should not be the first reaction .

[@mpayne8206]

No disrespect cuz... But your mom is a pretty lady!!

[@billbeis7691]

point flew off heads here...

[@jeffro6002]

The "Im not racist" reaction videos clearly show whos racist and whos not.

[@picofun348]

the truth hurts but we all have to told.... nothing in that song is racist and no one was trying to be racist, the video just goes to show that we have to sit down and talk like humans even if some things are hurtful and you dont agree the meaning is to agree to disagree to have a understanding so all racists can be come one again. its time to man up world and leave the past in the past and start living in the present

[@bigboiteejay1464]

I love her reaction to the video

[@bigG88]

Part. Of. The. Problem.

[@royromano9792]

At least, in the video. The white guy at least pretended to be paying attention... And the reaction vids, tell the same story...

[@Paul-es9el]

All I wanna say is how the f was the guys grandma a slave, let’s say he is 18-25 there’s no way his grandma was a slave she would have to be 100s of years old . Makes no sense. When I was say 25 my grandma had just died at 65 yrs old.