Monday Night Meatloaf 150

In this video we look at the test results of the three hammer handle retention fluids. These are liquids we add to harden or swell the wood hammer handle in the hammer head to retain and prevent loosening. We also look at some tool finds at a local flea market, a couple of Craigslist scores, some cool machine tags from Sierra Specialty Auto, Chatillion Dynomometer, we also test a Diablo Cermet steel cutting blade.
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[@arnoldsmachinetool4632]

I'm glad to see you back. I always learn new things in your videos. Thank you for taking the time to make videos.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Arnold, Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@cogentdynamics]

Tom, that hammer handles test was so nerdy. Thanks I love it! Please update test in 10 years so we know conclusively what will hold our head on.

[@oxtoolco]

Yeah it was pretty nerdy, but I love it! Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@hardlyb]

@@oxtoolco Try to get Project Farm to do a test. I'd be interested to see what he'd come up with to pull the heads off and break the handles.

[@russellforrest1730]

"A lot of boring video, me fumbling around with balls..." 🤣 Love this kind of beetling around with ideas. Seriously appreciate the scientific approach too. Excellent work! Get yourself a white coat, Dr Tom!

[@bcbloc02]

The wood testing was my favorite. I am a geek like that. 🙂

[@girliedog]

You are the only person who can make sledge hammer handles interesting. LOL

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Virginia, Thanks for the nice comment. Cheers, Tom

[@paulcooper2897]

Really enjoyed the trsting and results. Tried and true, I will stick with old school antifreeze. 90% of splitting ax use occurs in winter since its far easier to split a frozen log .. maybe the AF helps prevent end grain splitting, and by extension, loosening. That Diablo blade just made my Want List! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

[@v8packard]

When you cut that plate and it went right through my jaw dropped. Wow. Thanks for the video.

[@oxtoolco]

Yeah I was fairly impressed myself. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@joell439]

Tom, another very interesting episode that I couldn't wait to watch and was thoroughly entertained and educated in the process. I didn't know about DIablo's new blade. I guess it's time to start hunting for another skillsaw that I will dedicate to metal cutting.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Joel. I use my cordless for most of my wood stuff as it is so much lighter. I think that Steel Demon blade is going to stay on that saw for a while. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@johnfriend240]

About ten years ago one of the restoration specialists at the Nevada State Railroad Museum had to trim about a 1"x1"x12" section off of a plate rivetted to the boiler of the locomotive 'Glenbrook'. He grabbed a Skilsaw and a carbide tipped blade and cut it off, careful not to nick the boiler shell. First time I had ever seen it done this side of a cold saw.

[@bboomer7th]

Tom, the hickory testing was NOT boring. Years ago I worked at an annual festival in Manitoba, Canada. We had a whack of sledgehammers in use daily for perhaps 4 weeks a year, pounding pegs for huge tents. They went through a lot of abuse. Our end of day routine was to immerse the heads in buckets of water. I look forward to passing on the anti-freeze solution information.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Boomer. Thanks for the nice comment. I never can tell what folks will like in their video. Cheers, Tom

[@bensthingsthoughts]

Hey Tom, Nice to see you as always. The wooden handle chisel thing, could very well be an antique buttonhole chisel. Which would have been used to slice open the jeans after the button perimeter is sewed.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Ben. Someone else mentioned that one as well. Never knew such a tool existed. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@philbert006]

Hi Tom! Glad to see you back. Just wanted to say hi and all about your cherished handle of plenty. Nice meatloaf as always! Phil

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Phillip. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@nightowl19696]

The diablo blades are awesome. I use the 14'' blades in my metal chop saw and they work well and last a long time.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Alexy. Is it a converted wood saw or a saw that was designed for metal? Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@jackchapman6712]

Tom sold me on the Diablo blade. Great test Tom. I love your channel.

[@scott_aero3915]

I think the thing with the loctite is that you've done all your deformation by forcing the handle in to the head, and then applying the wedge. The loctite is then holding that deformation in place and potentially stopping the ingress of moisture over time.

[@chieft3357]

Always glad to watch Monday Night Meatloaf. My Dad was a carpenter/contractor starting back in the 50's and I remember him using boiled linseed oil on his hammer handles.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Chief. Apparently it is a time honored method. I sure like the smell. I might need to market a cologne with that combination. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@chieft3357]

@@oxtoolco I think it's good you took the time to do a test on different fluids to do a particular job. I'm glad to know linseed oil is still a viable fluid for sealing all types of wooden handles. And you proved that.

[@pingwax.]

Great episode! When I was a kid, my uncle always said that after you hang a hammer or axe head you have to soak it in antifreeze; never heard anyone else do that. I also never really saw any difference either way, they all stayed tight and lasted a long time, but seeing an actual test is pretty cool. I wonder if you would get different results if you constrained the wood in someway - put a steel band around them, soaked them, and then tested them? The circular saw cutting that steel plate was wild, very cool. Thanks for putting in the time, always interesting.

[@nobbysworkshop]

Interesting video again Tom. Love seeing your tool finds. Cheers Nobby

[@TheOnlyPsycho]

I'm actually impressed that the steel demon blade cut that good without any lubrication, and didn't turn to lava.

[@calholli]

I use skilsaws a lot for lumber. I'm actually shocked how fast it cut through that half inch steel.

[@oxtoolco]

It was pretty impressive to me as well. I have tried the Evolution steel cutting saws and they fail to impress. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@willshares]

interesting and useful... thank you !

[@angelramos-2005]

It´s a pleasure to see you again,Tom.Those findings keep coming to you.Thank you for your effort.Cheers.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Angel. Thanks for the nice comment. Cheers, Tom

[@scottsession7789]

Great video. I enjoyed it Scott

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Scott. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@componenx]

Another liquid that could be tested for the handle project is wood hardener. I used it once on some 2x4s that had gotten soft but were too embedded to replace. The stuff worked great.

[@jeremydoblinger3609]

Im impressed with that cut quailty and speed..didnt know a normal saw like that would cut thick steel..always thought the dedicated steel cutting saws turned slower..ill be out to buy one this weekend

[@z06doc86]

Your video picture quality is amazing Tom! Audio great too. Thanks.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Doc. Thanks. I don't often get compliments on my videography skills. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@elchuco00]

MEATLOAF!!! 😃😃😃 Good stuff Tom, that Diablo blade looks like a win in my book 👍

[@oxtoolco]

Hey De. For $34 I'm pretty impressed and happy. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@Leroys_Stuff]

Great meatloaf Tom nice seeing you upload made my night

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Leroy. Thanks for the nice comment. Cheers, Tom

[@richardellis3141]

very cool stuff, the saw blade is amazing, thanks for the video

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Richard. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@christurley391]

Thanks again

[@michaelkaplan7528]

Very scientific overboard testing!!!👌

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Michael. Yeah that was pretty nerdy. My inner project farm coming out. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@joegarrett5221]

A follow up test variation may be in order. Since penetration (absorption / expansion) and hardness are what should result in a a tighter handle to head joint, how about adding turpentine to some loctite and see how that performs. The turpentine should allow more absorption of the loctite which could result in more expansion and a harder final product.

[@nathanhinz2064]

I do a lot of field fabrication and use those steel demon blades on my makita cordless saw all the time they have surprisingly good life as long as you don't pinch the blade or catch a cutoff with a tooth primarily cutting 3/16 - 1/4 in wall tube

[@mattmanyam]

Thanks, Tom! Always appreciate you letting us hang out with you. I would submit that the antifreeze solution would provide a bit more vibration damping? It will be interesting to see if it is a useable long-term solution. That saw blade is certainly impressive! I used to work for Special Metals Corp in the processing dept, and we used big abrasive wheels for cutting the materials (54" was the largest saw when i was there.) I heard they had changed over to carbide after i left, now i can see why. (We produced mostly u718 superalloy)

[@billdlv]

Cool lab experiment Tom with the handles. That diablo blade was impressive, and I see the addition of some nice wood chuck accessories for your table saw 😀👏

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Bill. Yeah you noticed. Apparently you cannot just build one sled....Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

Soak a hammer handle in used motor oil for a month or two and it will be "peterifieded" lol...We don't need no hardness tests lol. Seriously, great video as always Tom!✔

[@oxtoolco]

Pretty soon I will have buckets of all kinds of goop around the shop. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

@@oxtoolco Thanks for the scoop on the goop Tom, can't wait till the next actioned packed adventure for sure!

[@mduvigneaud]

Tom, very interesting to see the results of the hickory soak test. I guess one thing to note about the ethylene glycol: its hygroscopic so it will always pull water from the air and stay wet... that will *probably* encourage rusting of the steel hammer/sledge/maul head over long term. But it was very interesting seeing that it had the most expansion of the wood.

[@thedge7]

Have had that exact style of ladder levelers on my extension ladder for 20+ years. Work very well.

[@oxtoolco]

Good to hear. Now I just have to get around to mounting them....Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@jeffbuckles]

03:41 Legendary analog design engineer Bob Pease wrote -- paraphrased as I remember it -- "If you see something weird in the lab, measure the amount of weirdness."

[@randymacsgarage]

Great show Tom as a retired carpenter man do I gringe when I see the beloved worm drive being used to cut steel ha ha that's something you always tried to Avoid but yeah those blades are awesome but a little insider information here the slower saws IE some of the smaller cordless ones as you spoke about work exceptionally well too its actually all about the speed just sayin and of course as you pointed out the teeth and their geometry thanks for sharing.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Randy. The Diablo blade is specifically designed for the higher speed of a normal skilsaw. That I one reason I got it. I didn't want to invest in another slower saw just to cut steel. I think I should have pointed this out better in the video. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@jsteifel]

thanks, that blade looks like a real good buy. And that shop was more like a museum than a shop.. or a man cave.. Looked like a nice place to hang out.

[@oxtoolco]

It was pretty cool but I wonder how much work is happening in there. I would be afraid of messing up the display. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@rlkingku]

You should consider making a fractal vise. I think your community would really dig that.

[@martineastburn3679]

The Yellow Mouthwash is great to run off the bugs. Picked it up from Pro gardeners and I keep a bottle in the shop - just dob wrists and neck...

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Martin. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@andrewcourt5156]

Great video as usual… thanks… Those sort of metal cutting blades for “skilsaws” are best suited for the “older” all metal body saws.. your new modern one has plastic guards / body that the sparks like to melt or at least embed themselves in !!

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Andrew. Good point. The lower parts on my Dewalt cordless saw are metal but you are right it sure has more plastic. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@glennstasse5698]

Man, no leftovers from that meatloaf. I’m amazed at that saw blade but I’m betting it wants to be paired with a worm-drive Skill saw as they are beasts. And did I notice woodshop developments in the background? A crosscut sled and a Grripper (love mine) and the table saw as an actual table showing the dynamometer. Maybe Tom is branching out. Hope so! Good episode, too.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Glenn. You noticed. Apparently you cannot just build one sled.....Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@z06doc86]

Shout out to Louisville Ladder, located in my home city. I’m surprised about the made in china label and somewhat disappointed. Thanks for the meatloaf Tom.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Doc. Yeah that one caught me off guard too. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@hardlyb]

I hit myself with a piece of 'punch shrapnel', but my dumbest shop injury was turning on a drill press, to make sure it worked before checking for the wedge. I got the wedge right in the gums, and needed a root canal. (At least I didn't shatter a tooth.)

[@TheMiniMachineShop]

I went thru 2 of those Diablo metal blades just cutting 1/2 square tubing. Teeth came off.

[@jeffpitzer8521]

I've had a chunk of striking tool curl in my left wrist for over 30 years. Doctors tried to remove it at the time, never found it. Subsequent X-rays revealed that there's mor than one piece...don't remember any other incidents. No MRIs for me ever! Hope I never need one!

[@iteerrex8166]

Fun episode. I gotta get me one of those crane scale and a Diablo blade.

[@oxtoolco]

For the money they are both a win. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@phillipyannone3195]

That Diablo metal cutting blade was really something. You will have to keep track of how many cuts you get out of it.😊

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Phillip. Good point. I'll put the date on it somewhere and see how long it lasts. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@accuracymark]

The pinging of the roof is interesting

[@oxtoolco]

Good ears! It was raining when I shot that video. There are trees that overhang the shop and they drip and produce that sound you heard. The giveaway was I was wearing a hoodie in those segments of the video. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@marcmckenzie5110]

Diablo blades are awesome. I have a couple for my DeWalt 5 1/2” cordless saw, and anytime I wanted a cleaner cut than an angle grinder cutting disc, was my go-to (before I was disabled). Cut like a charm, and I never had to invest for my gorilla worm-drive 7 1/4”. Wish by some magic they could do the same with bandsaw blades!

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Marc. I'm kicking myself as I saw a exact model of my cordless circular saw at the flea market that could be set up and left for cutting steel. Should have snagged it. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@aserta]

32:06 your growing collection reminds me of a cabinet i saw in an old shop in Germany. There's a few regrets i have in life, and not getting that cabinet to go home with me is one of them, hopefully someone else got it. Pity party aside, the owner had collected a lot, and i mean, a lot of tags over the years and riveted each and every one of them all over the surface, to the point where it had begun spilling over to the back. Quite the sight to see, now that i'm older something i'd do myself.

[@oxtoolco]

I will need to mount some tags pretty soon. I have a pretty good handful of them now. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@msquared6324]

Machine tool acquisition disorder is a harsh mistress. 😅 good stuff, Tom. Keep up the good work.

[@oxtoolco]

Thanks M. I am certainly feeling it. Cheers, Tom

[@martinu2725]

Any one else interested to find out what is in all those wooden crates in the background when Tom is doing the hardness tests?

[@oxtoolco]

Super cool stuff. That's what in them. All safe and sound for the time being. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@douro20]

Usually for wood the Shore test is done, which measures the depth of penetration of a spring weighted point into a surface. The point can be blunted on the end, in the case of a Shore A test, or conical in the case of a Shore D test.

[@oxtoolco]

Yep that is pretty much what we did here without the calibration for the Shore scale. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@briantaylor9266]

Your hardness test is similar to the standard wood hardness test - the Janka test. It measures the load for a given ball penetration, whereas you're measuring the penetration for a given load. My wood nerd self is showing, and your scientist self is showing 🙂

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Brian. I had not heard of the Janka test. I'll have to look into the test protocol and see how it is set up. That would be good to be able to compare these results. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@briantaylor9266]

@@oxtoolco I've continued to mull this over, in the context of securing the hammer/axe head to the shaft. I think all would agree that it's important to have a good fit between the wood and the eye, ideally a machinist's fit. Given eye geometry and associated irregularity, and limitations of individuals' carving skills, we generally follow up with wedges and in this particular case with some sort of liquid treatment. That begs the question, what is the most important action of the liquid? Is it to harden the wood? [Locktite wins] Is it to expand the wood, or in a constrained scenario to increase the pressure between the wood and the eye? [Antifreeze wins] Or is it to minimize seasonal moisture changes in the wood? [Linseed oil/turpentine wins] This latter can be important in climates where Summer/Winter humidities can be radically different. Summer humidity tends to compress the constrained wood in the eye, which then shrinks the following Winter. So which is 'best' may be situational. The last time I rehung an axe head, I bedded it in epoxy. So far so good, but cleaning out the eye may be a chore if I need to replace the handle.

[@briantaylor9266]

10 months later.... About a year ago I made myself a small hammer, a piece of 3/4" hex hung on a piece of jatoba (hardwood). About 2 months ago I noticed that the head was loose due to shrinkage in the dry winter air. I put a few drops of Loctite 290 on the exposed end grain, then let it soak in and cure. Now it's solid. Time will tell if it holds up.

[@famrichards]

great example of the scientific method

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Bruce. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@KB-dd9xr]

A failure test of some kind on those dowels (anvil or bending) would show change in strength of the wood. Just in case a good 'swell' made the wood soft (?)

[@oxtoolco]

I guess I should call the hydraulic press guys and see if they will crush these for us. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@russellod3322]

Good future video showing us what the best shape to grind on the end of your punches and chisels.

[@oxtoolco]

Sounds like a loaded subject to me. Might as well suggest which one is better 9mm or .45.....Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@greglaroche1753]

Great episode. I was really impressed with the saw blade. I wonder if you can find that type of teeth on a bandsaw blade.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Greg. We use carbide toothed blades on vertical bandsaws here at work to cut epoxy composites. The tooth geometry is different but they are available. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@alanmony1582]

Finally figured out that you had a pair of Carhart bibs in the shop dryer.🤢

[@alaspooryorick9946]

Nice one Tom! I don't know about Hickory, but certainly with something like Doug Fir the hardness of the winter growth is totally different to the summer growth. The darker rings are much much harder than the lighter ones. Don't think it would've done anything to your test, just an interesting thing. Cheers!

[@alaspooryorick9946]

Also, I've used wicking super glue to good effect, cheaper than the Locktite and at least to my calibrated thumbnail pretty hard

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Yorick. I bet that different hardness in the growth rings is typical for all woods. Unless it was grown in some lab setting there has to be some variation. Lab grown wood..... Humm. Now there is an interesting thought. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@MrShobar]

We generally call those load cells. You can make one using strain gages attached to a sensing member of known dimensions. You can measure the changes in resistance incurred by the applied load using a Wheatstone bridge. That's a nice blade. It cut just about as fast as an oxyacetylene flame, with an excellent surface finish. Best regards.

[@pabloestafez6830]

I'm sure Tom Has seen all those and allot more where he works based on NYC CNC's tour of Berkley Labs (where Tom works).....they reverse engineer UFO's don't ya know🤣😂😜 One of my favourite videos of all time on youtube!

[@pabloestafez6830]

Where do you think they first came into contact with Mr Bozo....he was recovered from a downed UFO Tom was tasked with reverse engineering😅😂 ....... .....they just decided to keep him around to make tea/coffee for the scientists

[@MrShobar]

@@pabloestafez6830 Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory. Try to get something correct once in awhile.

[@daisymaggio5729]

Good morning Tom, first thank you for the education you provide the world of machinist with your expert life experiences. Just a quick question. I have been looking to replace my mix match collection of taps and dies with a uniform good quality set of SAE . It seems there are mostly metric sets out there. My need is for a full range of SAE taps and dies with minimum OD dies so I can make the least amount of die holders for my tail stock. As for taps, I have seen so much about spiral taps, I would like to step up to spirals, if you agree, for hand and power tapping in my lathe and milling operations.. The range I use mostly is #2 thru 1/2”. Can you recommend a good manufacturer of these as sets or individuals if need be. Don’t have a Hugh budget but do try to get the better quality tools, Made in USA if possible. Thank you for any advise you could provide. Appreciate every video you make. Papa Maggio, Ex shop teacher from 50 years back. Like Mr. Pete.

[@buckinthetree1233]

I have the 8 inch Milwaukee metal cutting circular saw, and it works extremely well. The difference between it and a wood cutting saw is it runs at a lower rpm. I just looked it up to make sure I was correct in remembering the lower rpm, and noticed it's advertised to cut up 3/4". I've never cut anything over 1/2" with mine, but I have no problem believing it's possible as long as you try to keep the heat down. The blades hold up extremely well. I believe they have the science down on the blade construction.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Bucking. The Diablo blade is specifically designed for the higher speed of a normal skilsaw. That I one reason I got it. I didn't want to invest in another slower saw just to cut steel. I think I should have pointed this out better in the video. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@buckinthetree1233]

@oxtoolco oh, I see. Looks like it's going to work well for you.

[@daviddauphin838]

Good day! That small chisel like thing might be a cabinet makers tool for getting into tight areas. I have seen something like that on other channels.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey David. Some other folks said it might be a buttonhole chisel for tailoring work. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@ritaloy8338]

The Starrett 236 is still being made.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Rita. Did you see how much they are going for? Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@therealme613]

Next week Tom will be demonstrating the drying rates of different paints……and yes I will be watching! 🤣

[@oxtoolco]

Oooh! Sounds like fun. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@mm9773]

36:42 Could have once been some kind of burnishing tool, perhaps? But it also looks like it would make an excellent screwdriver for the cap iron screw on old hand planes. So easy to hurt yourself when you go at them with a regular large, long screwdriver.

[@oxtoolco]

This one is pretty sharp. Some other folks mentioned it is a buttonhole chisel for tailoring work. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@stevekaney4064]

tom, thanks for another great video. do you suppose propylene glycol would work in place of ethylene glycol? anti-freeze creeps me out. and i've got a big jug of stale cologne - perfect for this job.

[@threeriversforge1997]

Leveling ladders? I'm a huge fan of the three-point "orchard" ladders because they come with built-in levelers and are super stable on uneven ground. I don't know why they aren't more popular in the US, especially among the trades. The only downside is that they can be a little too wide for some applications. Still, a great tool for the shop and something everyone should be thinking about.

[@keylock9064]

Ok Tom you really need the ball type tweezers Jewelers use. Several sets and sizes here that work quite well. No magnet needed,

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Key. I have some but didn't think to drag them out. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@aserta]

39:16 for a moment there, i thought you'd finally found a dial indicator the camera won't mess up showing. :) Jokes aside, that's a nice score. Super nice.

[@oxtoolco]

Fat chance on the dial face. Sometimes I get lucky. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@felixcosty]

Thanks for the video. Was wondering if you can do a test on the dowel samples 3 months from now to see which one of the samples shrinks or swells?

[@oxtoolco]

Hey E. I put them all in a bag with the data sheet and set it aside. I'll probably trip over it in a year and wonder how it's doing. Stay tuned. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@felixcosty]

@@oxtoolco Thanks for the reply. Could you put them in the open air, and not a bag, that way we can found out if they shrink, or swell over time.

[@tonymcdaniel9198]

Sounds like you left a socket in you pocket when you put your pants in the clothes dryer.😂

[@pabloestafez6830]

Based on the sound I can confirm it's at least a 3/4 drive 1 3/8" and no smaller😂😅

[@oxtoolco]

It was raining. Trees dripping on the roof.

[@chrisstephens6673]

Hi Tom, long time no chat, Cermet, at least in Sumitomo insert terms, is titanium carbide. Very hard but super brittle. ATB C

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Chris. Good to hear from you young fella! How are things on your side of the pond? It must be the higher hot hardness that allows it to perform better on tough applications. All the best. Tom

[@rogerohlsson2336]

10:15"... so we don't lose that." Been there... done that many times myself.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Roger. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@menow.]

That penetration into the wood is going to vary quite a lot depending on if you are pushing on early wood part of the grain or late wood bit.

[@MrDarcaca]

the irregularity geometry is for armonic porpous i think. like in long bore milling. With irregularity in the geometry of inserts mill

[@martineastburn3679]

Just a thought, I think maybe a small magnetic disk that traps the ball to the ram but also to the magnetic field might make like easier. Just have a hole equal or larger than the bearing. Just a thought.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Martin. If I do more of this I will certainly magnetize the ball better so I don't have to chase it around. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@ickipoo]

Another thing that might be worth checking is how well they seal the end grain against taking up moisture?

[@pabloestafez6830]

Yes by linking peanut butter off of it for a set amount of time😅😂

[@pabloestafez6830]

And of course linking the untouched base line sample dry for complete transparency 😅

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Ick, Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@philbert006]

Seeing the swell of the antifreeze is interesting. Antifreeze is, of course, glycol, which is kind of thick, but it's also corrosive to organics. I wonder if that plays a part in it swelling? Perhaps breaking down the cell structure and causing them to rupture and release even more fluid which got absorbed by the fiber?

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Phillip. That could be an explanation for the flaring. I will drag these out in a few months and have a second look at them. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@philbert006]

@@oxtoolco my pleasure. I'm by no means an expert in chemistry, or anything else for that matter, but i have a bit of experience. I would bet you have a friend or two from the uni that might have done insight. Or I could use my unlimited free time and Internet and do some research, but it's just not fun unless you can bring friends along. Thanks! Phil

[@davidt8438]

I’m going to guess the antifreeze was a 50/50 mix (with water) and that would have swelled the wood. The flare would have been caused by the end grain not being restrained by anything at the end and constrained more as it moved inward. It should have been softer because the lignin (the glue like substance in wood) was diluted by water in the antifreeze and thus evaporated away or was simply drained away as the wood became saturated. The antifreeze would be a poor choice in my opinion because if wood loses lignin it becomes less flexible and once the hammer head becomes even slightly loose it would very quickly fly off the handle and then you would …we’ll, fly off the handle. You want the wood to have some flexibility to be able to absorb the shock otherwise you would just have to epoxy the end to hold it. Personally I’d use linseed oil. It has minor waterproofing properties but keep the wood more resistant to drying out.

[@rgmoore]

I'm wondering about the usefulness of the hardness test. You would typically have compressed the wood when putting it in the implement and then used some sort of your favorite nail or retainer hammered of screwed into the end compressing the wood further. The liquids are to swell the wood permanently causing even more compression. So, in theory, to test with hardness you'd have to compress the wood to the same diameter each and then test. Does that make sense? Loved the science

[@glenc90240]

I found it interesting that the spring back of the depression on the major load was greater in the 290 and antifreeze than the control a linseed, looked like .003-.004 vs .002-.001 ... Maybe a larger ball? .... I would think the 290 for a hammer might be best because hardness and maybe more shock absorbing... Just a thought!

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Glen. That's the problem with data. It makes you think about all kinds of things you didn't think of. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@johnwilliamson467]

The note of the cincinnati machine ones are they from the english branch not the home office in Cincinnati OH.

[@willi-fg2dh]

that's not a watchcase popper . . . it's a chisel that has been sharpened A LOT!

[@ExtantFrodo2]

at 38:00 you bend the instrument when you only need draw it down past the retainers.

[@jjbode1]

That technique, "freeze and watch for movement on the floor", works for me, too.

[@oxtoolco]

You get pretty good at it if you are as clumsy as I am. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@georgedennison3338]

Re: hickory tests Hang on to your samples, & give us a recheck of the sizes in 6 or 12 months. Curious about retrun to norm w/ time. Been a wood butcher 50+ yrs, so not surprised by results of linseed vs anti-freeze; Loctite's a new one. Assume the anti-freeze is 100% & not a 50/50 pre-mix w/ H2O. The ethylene glycol is the closest, chemically, to H2O hence similar results to plain H2O; most swelling, (equiv to 'raising grain'), & most soft, (wet wood to bend). If the anti-freeze size remains w/ time, then hammer head in in AF & handle w/ ?. For years, I finished hick handles 2 ways: light head = few coats of clear lacquer, (a color undercoat can ^ 'findability factor'. For heavier heads I use a light semi-coat of 3M 08883 Rubberized Undercoat for a light texture, then follow W/ lacquer for durability. Re: watch back tool to be Don't make it chisel sharp. Too easy to chip edge or damage object. A world class back tool is ~$30, made in Switzerland & has a Victorex blade, (Swiss Army Knife comp.) Look for a Bergeon No. 4932. Very, very handy. I found some Chinese knock offs on eBay 5+ yrs ago for

[@Engineerd3d]

That looks like a gasket scraper from here tom.

[@oxtoolco]

A few folks suggested it was a button hole chisel for tailor work. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@thef1sh17]

I have a carbide chainsaw chain and it works great until all the braze joints break.

[@SuperSecretSquirell]

Dang, that blade chewed through that like buttah.

[@oxtoolco]

Cool as cream cheese. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@SuperSecretSquirell]

@@oxtoolco I've got an M18 saw that I just might see how well it runs it.

[@kitmaira]

Very impressed by the saw cut. What is the rpm on that skilsaw?

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Kit. Good question. I think it is around 4000 rpm. The blade has a max speed rating of 4400 rpm. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@sween187]

First though seeing it on the mat was a old glass scraped/scorer, but when you lifted it looks like a leather working tool.

[@oxtoolco]

Some other folks thought it might be a button hole chisel for tailor work. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@richardherbert3781]

My dad used to work at Concinati in Birmingham. Only by then it had merged and was Cincinnati Milacron. That bought back a lot of memories. Where would I go to find a machine tool plate like that?

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Richard. They pop up all over the place. Ebay is a good starting spot. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@prototype3a]

I wonder how well wood permeated with that linseed oil and turpentine would stand up to use outside. MiL wants a potted plant stand and I'm tempted to treat the prototype and see how it does.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Drew. I built an outside shade structure many years ago. I treated the wood with the same mixture of linseed oil and turpentine. The wood held up fine for many years. Pretty cheap and easy as well. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom

[@zachaliles]

I had a punch like that slip through my hand and cut the hell out of it. I was driving a pin out of some linkage and it broke free all of a sudden and I shot the punch right through my hand into the bore. That was many years ago and ever since then I haven't let any burrs form on my chisels or punches. Some guys give me crap about babying my tools but I'll tell you what, I've got tools that are over 25 years old that don't even look half their age. I clean them before I put them away and dress them up when they need it in the case of chisels and punches.

[@oxtoolco]

Hey Tiny. That one sure needed some love. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom