Mondays With Mooch Ep 17: ex Mongol and ex Hells Angel sit down to discuss life after the club.

Former Mongol Mooch and former Hells Angel PeeWee sit down and discuss post club life, working out, and writing books.
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[@BigD51731]

"brotherhood, greatest lie ever told" 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 say it fucking louder

[@209er2]

Usually that's how all guys out bad feel

[@basedbane787]

Sour grapes. If it was so bad why'd they stay in it for 20 years

[@jimmilburn2370]

And guys that quit too...took me 14 years to finally cut the cord, but saw the writing on the wall long before. I met some amazing men, but mostly a bunch of guys I could never count on to be a brother.

[@terryminten4695]

I really wish I could say you're wrong but bro that's spot on truth I was in a club for 14 years and one day I had the whole chapter at my place wanting all their shit back

[@basedbane787]

@@terryminten4695 what'd you do to get kicked out ?

[@dirtyBMXpunk4130]

Such a rad one Mooch! Love that you dudes are showing what real brotherhood is about.

[@Johnnyo1300]

Thank you gentlemen it’s nice to see people from two sides of the fence. Having a conversation I can’t help but think about the movie the warriors from back in the 70s if everybody could pull together and make it about us against them the poor against the rich what a difference it would make.🤝

[@lifeisgood662]

Now we need the PeeWee and Mooch show

[@kholtonzacharias8091]

Agree!

[@lifeisgood662]

"Out Bad with PeeWee and Mooch"

[@lylehumphreys9099]

Lol if it works . Why not

[@bigj7755]

Pee Wee is as real as it gets. I met him years ago in Reno. Got his book a cpl days ago and let me say, GET THE BOOK! Couldnt put it down. Plus it was interesting to hear him talk about some of the people that I also encountered over the years in being in a MC. And I can say, I get what hes saying. Anyways great interview and looking forward to more.

[@jennifermize9698]

What a great interview! I can see where you could have several parts to interviewing him with so much more to talk about can't wait to read your book and learn more about you❤️

[@shoveled1000]

Such a great interview. Both of you guys have amazing stories about your lives. Thanks for this one.

[@Calvinmob6886]

Great stuff, Mooch and Peewee!

[@bossanova7462]

My brother called me up this week and said he was watching a program on A&E The secrets of the Hells Angels and he said Chuck Goldsmith this kid we went to school with was a Hells Angel President and no shit this guy is on this TV special. I grew up in Milwaukee just like Chuck and my dad ran a Shell gas station on 2nd and Mitchell street in the early 70s on the weekends for extra money and I would help out and pump gas and guys would come in on their motorcycles and fill up and drive off without paying and I was told that they were the Milwaukee Outlaws so they get the gas for free. Years later I start going to South Division high school and Chuck was a year a head of me and came up to me and said you must be Mike Ramm’s Brother because I was wearing his hand me down clothes that he gave to me to wear because like a lot of us kids back than we were poor and didn’t have much. I guess the outlaws still have a clubhouse on 2nd and Maple. I knew the Porter family as Chuck did as the neighborhood kids would learn how to box and try to stay out of trouble. I’m glad Chuck is doing good and would love to hear his stories and plan on buying his book. GOD BLESS YOU CHUCK

[@kaisupportSFJMC]

So far so good, I'm looking forward to the next part! Love and greetings from Germany! Be bless PeeWee and Mooch, I'm praying for you and your journey!

[@user-ek3iu5ni9m]

Awesome Video! I heard of Pee- Wee before but didn't know much, this is such a good video & I love the way you guys get along! I gotta find both you're book's!

[@MondaysWithMooch]

Thank you. The link to buy both of our books is in the video description

[@the_roflcakes]

Mooch, you are by far one of the most intelligent, well-spoken, positive interviewers I've listened to. It is crucial that we as men have guys like you to listen to that focus on what's important for us. Keep at it man. Great stuff

[@kanegamer3065]

Awesome interview. Loved it. Hope you do more!

[@seanhog]

Right on boys, great to see you guys have a sit down and chat. Entertaining and insightful.

[@jasonhodgson2466]

This was definitely a surprise when I saw the title… GREAT SITDOWN! Smilin J Mongols Phoenix Chapter RETIRED

[@charlie4424]

This was a good one! You got a solid way of doing interviews, Mooch, and PeeWee is that dude you felt you've known for years when he tells his story. Yall are both as Solid as they come in my book. Speaking of, just ordered a copy of both of yalls books, cant wait to get my hands on em' ML&R Mooch, and PeeWee, take it easy!

[@MondaysWithMooch]

Thank you so much for the kind words and for picking the books up

[@charlie4424]

@@MondaysWithMooch Least I could I do! Take care

[@garyny4073]

​@@MondaysWithMoocha man named Mooch 👍😅😊

[@darrenogrady1445]

Chur chur. Good interview. Watching from New Zealand. Where the oldest Hells Angel club outside of America begun, , Thats true. Probly the last place to have Mongols, there here too I believe , only recently, . Long live Harley Davidson motor bikes

[@t.j2418]

Peewee reminds me a lot of Mel Chancey from Chicago ha. Both seem like such down to earth dudes that will slam you on the earth if you get sideways. Great handlebars too

[@diablosmda324]

Good interview. Currently in right now and much of what you said resonated. I wish I could say more but it is a conversation I wouldn’t mind having in a different setting. I do what I can from my end.

[@jblittleton4065]

Great podcast I keep relisting because there always something different I catch

[@authenticadversity]

🙌🏽🙌🏽 great interview guys!! 👊🏽👊🏽

[@thomasschopflin6317]

Hi Mooch, I think you're a great interviewer for one main reason: You let people talk and tell their stories! Glad to see Mondays with Mooch back on!

[@BAsed_AFro]

💯

[@danconnell1]

Don’t let the old man in Pee. wee

[@The-big-kev-show]

This was cool to watch much respect to both you guys

[@benpaynter8348]

Thanks for the video. And the podcast recommendation, got something else to listen to!

[@ericdesrochers9464]

Great episode man!! Happy you’re back on ✌️

[@richardashwood5771]

Great interview. It was great to see two ex members of rival clubs getting along. I only wish active members could do the same. It’s so sad to see the brotherhood falling apart. The feds just love that. Again, this was a great interview.

[@blues3824]

Great interview & story, guys.

[@r.l.rgarage5638]

Great interview!

[@JakeBlickenstaff]

Great interview and great conversation!

[@kyleclark4650]

Should definitely do another one! Great interview

[@user-zm2vi5xh7e]

Great Interview, I have seen some other interviews that were an hour long and I have lost interest within 10 min. This one my friend was spot on and it is the one for those inquiring minds. Straight to the point and respectful.

[@MondaysWithMooch]

Thank you. We tried to keep it short but it’s hard when conversation is going so well

[@j_eazy915]

Great interview! I really enjoyed the mention of being in a club never defining who you are. Only a piece of your journey.

[@nealrice988]

Aye bro you got a podcast definitely dig the interviews and enjoy watching them

[@ditchcomfort]

Great podcast. Never been an MC or in any club, but love to listen and watch cool stories. It’s awesome to see you could have been best friends if you take the patch away. I really enjoyed it 👌🏻 Cheers from Norway 🇳🇴

[@HometownRecycling]

Hell of a interview ! Both you brothers stay safe !!

[@SoulStealer702]

Mooch you are a geniuine guy I can tell just from the vids I have seen. Very articulate and well spoken. Love checking out your content.

[@joeybudz2648]

I'm so glad to see both of u in together

[@billwyatt5142]

Both of you keep up the good work

[@Blu702]

peewee is a legend in vegas, when i was in the teamsters working, i saw everyone wearing peewees speed shop shirts, back in 2020.

[@powerman1972]

Great episode Mooch.

[@VegasProfileStories]

You guys knocked this out of the park!!!! Amazing Interview Mooch and Peewee!!! This is HUGE!!!

[@famousforever8556]

Good interview!

[@paulcasas8777]

Great interview

[@doedoeg1883]

Dope sit down🤙🏼 keep it up🫡

[@timhannah2321]

Like the video Mooch first time watching Like Peewee as well y'all did good with this one SALUTE'S 💪🏻💯💯💯💯

[@teejgregg]

Great stuff!!!

[@Ghoosier]

Good content. Best of luck to you both!

[@GregSpittenPickz101]

Yea it’s the same EXACT SHIT WITH HA IN NYC 3td street I was in a support club for 4 years and we had to go to there clubhouse we had to jump when they said they’d come to our CH and never pay for a drink hit on ol lady’s and that is when I then put my energy into the direction of a the 1% club which I became affiliated with UB AN WAS being offered and I turned it down at this time I was in a smaller club and wouldn’t leave them for UB which after My diamond was disrespected we we had another offer the 16s and the rest was history until I finally walked away after looking myself in the mirror and hating everything around me and how the loyalty? Brotherhood? Unity ? Honor ? Respect ? Was few an far between …..

[@maryjohnson3182]

I read Peewees book and look forward to reading yours.

[@herschelsquirts2338]

Super cool sit down!!

[@snipsdraper7537]

Good job Mooch. I remember meeting you and your brother at Oyster run years ago. Meet you as a supporter and learned lots with your Club just by visiting other chapters. I'm Few now but will always have love for black and white...

[@user-su4sh9lg7m]

Excellent interview ML&R to both of YOUZ 👍👍👍

[@Venuesnow3]

Good interview fellas I can relate a lot I was in clubs in Australia for 11 years

[@brettgrass6019]

Loved this Mooch & peewee Mad Respect to you both ❤

[@joebrett5544]

Yo thanks for the “Relative Unknown “ reference

[@80_vee39]

I paid to watch all those episodes peewee recently did and it was well worth it👊🏼 thanks mooch and peewee

[@Stevemontana19]

Its nice to see these guys have so much self confidence that they dont have to always b the hero in their story

[@mattsweeny3957]

Great team guys...cool show

[@dougie6107]

Love your content, Mooch. Shout out The Chisel shirt you rock too. ha

[@MondaysWithMooch]

Thank you! And the Chisel rules!!

[@dougie6107]

@@MondaysWithMooch Hell yea man. Seeing em with Home Front and CMI in philly in May. Stoked.

[@MondaysWithMooch]

@dougie6107 home front are the homies. My old band The Escaped toured with their old band The Wednesday Night Heroes several times both in the US and Canada

[@dougie6107]

@@MondaysWithMooch That's whats up! We like the same music then. Wednesday Night Heroes 👊💥 Skinhead Rock n Roll. You still in a band?

[@garyloomis4961]

Awesome show, Mooch !!!

[@oswaldootero]

Pretty awesome podcast. Good job gentlemen.

[@johntroy426]

I wish the Mongols and Hells Angles MC could get along better. Rock on Mooch and Peewee

[@robertalexander9365]

Good interview.

[@charlieparker2773]

GREAT Interview , THANK YOU BOTH FOR SHARING YOUR LIVES ,GOOD & BAD 🏍️ IT AINT WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT BACK IN 60’s & EARLY 70’s 🏍️ MUCH REPECT BRO , PEEWEE TOO , DAMN GOOD BRO 🩸🏍️👊🏽👊🏼

[@Plumbermark]

Just bought the book.....Cheers !

[@olpoppy7323]

Great vid....you're both great examples.

[@stuwhyte479]

That was an excellent watch..Cheers

[@mob4336]

Glad pee wee is calling out Pat

[@creightonleerose582]

Thanks for the heads up on the podcast about Clarence Addie Crouch & his daughter story.... -Well worth an ear over the entirety of the episodes. I see Crouch being a product of a rough n' tumble traumatizing childhood, boys town 'schools' orphanage's & general environment later in his younger life. All that aside, theres a side to him that isnt a 'monster' @ all, provided he had your trust & you had his. Seems like he tried to make up for his youthful years actions a bit down the road, but he & his daughter were totally hamstrung in being party to the Govt Witness Protection Program. Once they collect what they need for prosecutorial duties, then seemingly fully toss ya away in the subsequent decades due loss of immediate relevance... -Imagine not being able to produce a simple birth certificate needed for so many things in life?....No passport ever issued?...No social security assistance, nor SS disability benefits which he triad again & again & again to remedy w/repeated written plea's to get settled, both for his own condition, help with his ailing wife, step-son & daughter. You essentially become a non-person in WitSec, which previously he lived the entirety of his life in edge-city as it was, marginalized to the max. W/O such his daughter had a tough time just getting her own daughter to be able to play any common middle-school, or High School sports?!.. Fact is, he prob wouldnt have done what he did, had he simply received a bit of financial assistance. A paltry 300-400$ Social Security check a month mightve made the difference of continued LIFE here. Sure, what comes around, goes around, but ya cant judge man, nor woman on past actions alone. They carry the memories of those experiences every damn day, which weighs heavily on a person as we age & mellow out a bit. Having sought a way...-any way, >> out of the madness >>.... I see the terrible ending of Crouch, his wife & son as being a seeming, albeit sad, mercy of sorts, doesnt make it right, but sounded like he & his immediate/live in family were @ the end of the collective trail, he just didnt want to suffer any longer, nor see his wife & stepson do the same.... Great interview....

[@MondaysWithMooch]

He had said he wanted to leave that life and went on to testify against his club because he didn’t believe in killing women and children. And then ended up killing his wife and her son. Wild ending to a crazy story

[@waydel1]

Congrats to both of you for doing this podcast. By the way Peewee you and I have the same birthday 12/30/1956 just turned 67 years young.

[@mikethatisdefnotmyname3731]

Great show mooch

[@chrisheatherly8187]

Knowledge is power … great to see two dudes from opposite sides of the street realizing they have a lot in common. Realizing that the patch doesn’t define their future.

[@robertsmith1030]

Awesome !! Great interview mooch 5 ⭐ bro ... Pee Wee love you brother !!

[@creightonleerose582]

28:11 BaaaaHaHaHaHaaaaa!.....Too funny....

[@sadletrampsscooby]

Great podcast would love to read your book mooch what is it called.

[@MondaysWithMooch]

The Ride Of My Life. The links to both of our books is in the video description

[@thecriticalstatepodcast]

“Cause of my size or if you saw me in the shower” bahahaha funny stuff PeeWee

[@mechcavandy986]

Brother Pee Wee. He lives near me now. Great guy! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@AustinD1993]

667th like! I loved your book by the way Mooch!

[@richardspence3447]

Awesome video

[@oldhillbillybuckkowalski]

When I heard the title you've chosen for the book I immediately started laughing like a maniac. Ol lady thought I was on that shit again. I spent 10 years starting about a year after getting out of the army slipping into the hard-core biker life, which cost my first marriage to crash and burn 6 months into my hang around phase butI missed the warning sign that a really good woman who loves you and after 4 years prior to club association started things were golden, 6 months after you start into the life she tells you she sees where that is going to take you, she loves you too much to watch that happen so she's leaving and to make sure she doesn't fall for any bullshit from me she's moving 4 states(1,000 miles) away then walked out the door, and drove away...and me, a guy with a reputation as being very intelligent, known for being able to do the "Abridged version" read on people or situations, figure out who's about what and what is happening , I can figure all that shit out and then like a soldier who finds out information about the enemy go brief the guy in charge of me, and yet My ex blasting off caught me 100% flat footed and slack jawed.. I guess in the beginning we become so fixated that getting a patch becomes an obsession., blocking out what used to seem important. After 10 years in the life and figuring out that, at least in my experience there are 2 kinds of "Brithers" in a club. There are the ones who are legit tough, physically strong, mentally solid, and they join because the want to feel like they are a part of something bigger than them, they want to look around and say to themselves, "Yep, i an exactly where I belong, and I've got a bunch of brothers that I belong with." This type of Brother takes the "Right or wrong, a Brother is never wrong" as something to live by. If you call him at 3 am and ask him to come over for a bit he shows up with a couple shoves, plastic sheeting, and disposable coveralls just in case they are needed but couldn't be mentioned on a phone. He will walk into an ass beating knowing it's coming because you ain't getting your teeth knocked down your throat by yourself. I had 3 guys in the club that wee exactly like that. 2 are dead one is in federal prison serving triple life. I won't name him but I promise you both know him and probably share my opinion of him. The other type may or may not actually be a badass tough guy but they look, act, 🎉and sound like, they are. Sure, they can scrap and they are certainly capable of really hard violent actions. They are actually more likely to escalate the violence than the first type of brother...For reasons. They usually grew up with nothing to be proud of. Living with one irresponsible parent whose never around and can't remember what the other one looked like. To survive they started at a young age of bring able to meet some one, and figure out the angle to use that person in a way that they can benefit from and won't immediately be obvious to that guy that he's just a tool for this kind of brother. Other people he will immediately classify as a mark. A one time use only, he'll have something, money, a dope connection, something that whe the time comes that asset can be taken through intimidation and then the mark is told to be gone and not to come back, ever. (You can't have the dude you just took something valuable from hanging around and telling people you may need at some point how you fucked him over even though you were friends at the time. This type of brother can be very good to have on your side. He's intelligent, he's no nonsense, and in reality these guys are the most dangerous people in the club. Having always felt like he was on his own, never in a place where he felt like he belongs, and a lifetime of figuring out the angles and the marks, surviving because he could be very friendly, si friendly people couldn't tell he was using them for his benefit but once all that began to click people will still deny they got played, they will convince themselves they just misunderstood everything and there friend didn't intentionally fuck them over. He's the type of guy that will kick a dude in the balls then make the guy believe they were kicking a venomous spider off of their junk, you should buy him a drink for being a good guy like that. These brothers desperately want to belong to something but after 30 years of life that required keeping enough distance with everyone that noone could get involved in the scams, cons, and robberies he was running.that way of living has made it impossible for him to ever belong in a group of people where trust is key.but he had developed a plan to use them as soon as they met each other. I saw both types existed right away but it took 10 years to admit, that 2nd type, most the guys in the life you ever met are going to become him if they aren't him already. That was when I finally admitted that the lie I had fallen for the most completely and had affected me the most severely was the lie of, "Hey brother, you need something just call, I'll be right there. Brotherhood is what this club is about, and without that we have nothing." That day I admitted to myself that the last 10 years were all asmoke and mirrors show that sold us on something that most of these guys said without ever thinking about what it means. It was all a lie. Thar day I pulled my own colors, walked into my chapter presidents office dropped them on his desk, said,"I told your predecessor that I was sure about making the move from prospect to full patch, I understood what the commitment was about, and I had always held up on my end, never told anyone, sorry this isn't a good time for me, maybe in a month I'll be able to help you, but this club is not what I agreed to join and made a commitment too. That club must've died when we buried the man who made me think about whether I should make that commitment. Semsd then almost everyone, maybe 4 exceptions, everyone else has consistently said no, sorry I can't do shit right now, too much on my plate right now maybe in a moth, or something similar. Now I'm losing everything, house, land business, family, my self respect is hanging on by a thread and my desire to be involved in this club is completely gone. I'm walking away, hope this works out for yall better than it did for me, but either way I don't feel a need to ever talk to any of yall again, and its probably the best thing for all concerned as my capacity to be social and talk to people is gone, I wouldn't be any fun to be around. He didn't say a thing, showed no feelings of any kind, and I watched my back for quite a while, expecting some sort of visit at some point it never came. Of course I rarely make the 45 minute trip to their city, I don't ride Harleys anymore (I do have an 80 mph tractor supply minibike that I stuffed a 479cc Briggs and Stratton Vtwin into) and my guess is I'm out of sight, out of mind, I'm not causing a problem and they certainly have real problems to deal with. I gotta say that I don't think that any book ever written had a better, more appropriate, or more truthful title. Congratulations on your ability to figure that out, so many don't figure it out until they are 10cyears into a life at a federal facility, some never do figure it out, and even worse, a lot of guys died before they had a chance to figure it out.

[@Streets4life]

No ones reading that bs

[@oldhillbillybuckkowalski]

@@Streets4life I'm ok with that hell I don't always read stuff either, that's why America is great , we aren't forced to read stuff.

[@harley0786]

Two true Brothers .

[@Grinch83]

look forward to the content

[@hellac6]

Crazy you say Humboldt Iowa, I have a small family and they all live in that area. Very small town for those that don’t know the area. I remember going to a bar there once and there were some really rough looking biker dudes there, and my cousin said mind your business, and don’t even talk to those guys……they’re serious serious dudes and you DO NOT want problems with them. Turns out they were Sons of Silence and they apparently have a clubhouse somewhere around there.

[@usagarage1704]

At 30 minutes on they start talking about a show with Barger on it and also a podcast. Anyone know what whay shows these are?

[@MondaysWithMooch]

Shows I believe is Secrets of the Hells Angels on A&E, and the podcast is called Relative Unknown and link is in the description

[@justingarzarelli5124]

Respect to both og's

[@sylmb2803]

Ogs? 🤣 look up monster chago mongols Nomads chapter that’s an OG

[@WildCardMMA]

Good stuff

[@johnrunyon3649]

We all have alot in common just different colors.

[@patrickb133]

Yes you all got bad habits,low self esteem, bad hygiene, bad taste in motorcycles and criminal tendencies!

[@hvymtl84]

Historical no doubt. Thank you both for sharing what you can and being human 🤘🏻🤣

[@Solerebelterpz]

Peewee is a legend. I’m stoked to have spent some time with him. His son is even cooler.

[@ROODPalmdale661]

Good Stuff I salute 🫡 you both God bless you both.

[@thefew6332]

Great Minds think alike!

[@gatososa3694]

Love this shit 👍 u guys need ur own show 🤜🏽☠️

[@yoshit9819]

Peewee seems like a solid dude. What a "biker" should be

[@HeathenTrucker]

I loved when he mentioned about people moving back in situations. I use to get in trouble for moving forward too quick lol

[@MichaelEhline]

Great interview. I’d love to have you on my show that is focused on holding public servants accountable

[@MondaysWithMooch]

Shoot me an email

[@rickybryan6393]

Great job Guys . That stem cell treatment sounds like the youth serum alot of us Ol_timers need .

[@KAGEDEVIL]

Now Humboldt is at Algona. All SONS. Once in awhile some El Forsteros will come. The 81 Minnesota time frame was the Pat Matters era.......

[@Spaghettiest]

people shit on popup clubs, but this is why they exist. Once clubs get too big they're not really worth joining because you can't trust anyone in them

[@S1ck0f1tA11]

Hell ya. Make this is a series

[@user-ht6gk7sd8o]

Mooch you peewee are awesome brothers 👊🏽

[@repoRod]

Great cast mooch and great feed brother peewee. BMF B4L