"Money Has To Be Found From Somewhere" | Labour Set For £10bn Public Sector Pay Rise

Chancellor Rachel Reeves has said the Government will “make sure the sums add up” if public sector workers are given above inflation pay rises.
Reports which first appeared in The Times suggest independent pay review bodies have recommended the 5.5% rise for teachers and around 1.3 million NHS staff.
Political commentator Theo Usherwood tells Talk's Dr David Bull that if the whole of the public sector received the proposed pay rise intended for teachers and NHS staff, it could cost around £10 billion across the public sector, which led to comments that people could see tax rises in an autumn fiscal statement to pay for such a move.
With many of the unions involved with pay negotiations funding Labour, Theo questions whether a Labour government is more susceptible to their demands than the previous Conservative one would have been.
With the high likelihood of Keir Starmer's first King's speech facing amendments, this could be the Labour leader's first rebellion not even a month into office.
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[@scotty5717]

"money has to be found from somewhere"...how about the illegal immigration bill?

[@paulclairethomas1344]

They are definitely spending a lot on that debacle...

[@XTRAIT-em4rx]

The 'Right' are back.... 😂

[@Cornz38]

By "somewhere" they mean the tax payer.

[@LucyKelly-of6cu]

Yes! Save it by refusing illegals!

[@hissingsidll750]

Even if they did have the money.....WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE IT

[@alanlesser1349]

State pensions is not a benefit it’s a right we have paid in for years

[@sharonhyde7735]

Exactly!

[@user-bo7fc9tj4z]

@@alanlesser1349 We have paid in national contribution for all our lives. We have worked for our state pension by paying onto it.

[@user-bo7fc9tj4z]

@@alanlesser1349 State pension is not a benefit and we are paying full taxes on the state pension.

[@LukeMovement1]

So is every other benefit

[@gillianwhitby7442]

Well said! A lot of money deducted from your wages when you really needed it! 4:32 ges​@@user-bo7fc9tj4z

[@Lindy-ht8cr]

So money needs to be found from somewhere? Here's sn idea ~ LEAVE our pensions alone, don't raise taxes and STOP aid to every country on the planet, throwing our money to countries to stop their citizens from heading to the honey pot called UK and use all that money IN OUR COUNTRY!

[@LukeMovement1]

So that age group votes for the Tory's and Brexit crippling the country, now you expect the rest of us to cover the bill? The level of entitlement

[@gillianwhitby7442]

So true!

[@stevec6427]

Did you know the UK spends more on subsidies to incredibly profitable oil companies than foreign aid? All foreign aid comes with something in return, usually access to natural resources such as oil or minerals.

[@ryuixyui]

Pensions should be taxed. I would tax pensions by 2.5% special tax. These tax will be used to fund health and social care and other freebies pensioners have. Also remove the triple lock. We need to be fair here. Any money gained from removing it can be used in health and social care.

[@gillianwhitby7442]

@@ryuixyui I paid tax for forty years so don't need to be told I should still be paying it out of the pension I worked so hard for, especially when I know of some who have never paid tax in their working life and lived on benefits!

[@jimmycccc]

Give them a 5% pay rise and then give everyone a 5% tax increase to cancel it out and make everyone poorer. Yay!!!

[@JupiterThunder]

They call it "socialism".

[@robertsmith9810]

@@JupiterThunder Communism

[@albertenvajohannes2649]

The party of the working class. No, the party that believes in taxing the working class into poverty.

[@jimmycccc]

Marx was a satanist….. makes sense

[@sharonhyde7735]

That's about right, we the tax payers have to pay for "everyone" but do we the working class have a payrise form minimum wage of £11.44p an hour, we carn't raise a lot on that!!!

[@mark.r]

A family from the Middle East can rock in to our country with 10 kids and literally get benefits for them all.. it’s insanity

[@elizabethanthony3916]

They are also getting payments for additional spouses, despite the British bigamy laws ! Disgusting ! 👍

[@danl5592]

Moslems groups have their own solicitors (Sadiq Khan used to be one) their own interpretators who help fill out benefit forms and give advise. Extra £150 per any additional wife's. Go to Bethnal Green on a Sunday morning and you will get a glimpse of what Pakistan looks like.

[@user-bn7ot3wn8i]

Keep your thieving hands off our pensions & try having a pay packet & pay rise like most unprivileged employees.

[@nickryder9669]

User your pension has been robbed eversince the Tories took power quantative easing on several occasions then the Last buggy was Trusses budget that whipped £ billions off pension pots ! Not paying the doctors & nurses has cost the tax payer in Lost production as the waiting list reaches closer to 8 million

[@taffyterrier]

@@nickryder9669 NHS doctors are among the highest paid in Europe.

[@nickryder9669]

@@taffyterrier not junior doctors ! Who are you comparing them too ? Rumania ! Is this another Tory tripe ? Having worked a full days overtime every week like the rail industry that’s classed as earnings as if it were their normal wage !

[@taffyterrier]

@@nickryder9669 Junior doctors are medical graduate trainees with limited practical experience learning the trade under strict guidance and supervision and as such are very well paid with unsociable hours premiums including night shift allowance, weekend enhancements and call out charges.

[@stevec6427]

Public sector workers are generally paid quite a lot less than private sector workers. The department for education is trying to recruit engineers with similar qualifications and experience to myself to work as teachers. I looked at it and the starting pay would be a £27,000 pay cut. That is why we have a shortage of teachers, the people who could do the job can't afford the low pay

[@BlackGriffin195]

Billions of pounds staring everyone in the face. Benefits being paid to all the immigrants who have arrived (to save the UK!) over the past ten years. Housing, income supplements, child allowances (for both resident and overseas children, real and fictional) free medical and dental treatment, interpreters, legal advisers, mobile phones, education, prison places, court time, police time, welfare officer time, the importation of parents and grandparent (anyone else noted the proliferation of Eastern European, African and Muslim elderly getting social housing an blocking hospital waiting rooms?) And I am sure I have missed a good few items. But Labour want to make it even harder for hardworking parents to give their children a better education, because the state system is crap.

[@lindamoren5126]

Exactly! For ten years I have been fighting with the authorities to take action against the Eastern Europeans and musi with many wives who live here by fraud and deceit and sucking hundreds of thousands of pounds, even millions, from the system, as they know every trick from the book, and the British authorities failed to act, harassing me instead for reporting them and telling the truth!

[@Killergoat69]

Don’t forget the one’s actually working, supposedly contributing to the country, but sending half their wages back home and out of the economy.

[@raymondedwards8111]

You are absolutely right, I am sick of these whatsits.

[@LukeMovement1]

Blaming labour for Tory's mistakes? I'm not the least bit surprised. Complete inability to take responsibility

[@dominantmale89]

Don't forget the Ukraine scam. Gave away old crap so they have an excuse to spend billions on new stuff to fend of Russia. All we have to do is wind in the dead dream of empire and protect our shores and let the yanks bumble about creating their own enemies. Not our border. Not our war.

[@JG-fv9bv]

Yeah and we all know which demographic wants the two child cap lifted

[@ruthcollins2841]

Just remove child benefits and give them food vouchers.😊

[@Cornz38]

@@ruthcollins2841 They will only sell them.. But yes, we should and ANY shopkeeper caught fiddling should be deported*... *we all know what kind of shop...

[@raymonddonaghy2314]

​@ruthcollins2841 should of been abolished decades ago

[@Cornz38]

@@raymonddonaghy2314 Should HAVE been. Basic, remedial level English....

[@davehunter9342]

Work doesn't pay for some on free school meals and universal credit

[@angel-a123]

So they will give Nurses a pay rise and then take it back in tax ... clever, very clever

[@sharonhyde7735]

Yes agree very very clever, up the wage to take some more!

[@Cornz38]

By clever you mean transparent...

[@user-wb3px4em6k]

Cut the number of clerical staff in hospitals and pay nurses a decent salary

[@taffyterrier]

@@user-wb3px4em6k Nurses are paid a decent salary.

[@davehunter9342]

Sorry not new I already pay back more tax every time my state pension increases

[@JG-fv9bv]

Plus the £3 Billion per year indefinitely Starmer has promised to Ukraine

[@imbonkers3629]

Billions for houses 🏡 billions for solar panels , turbines , billions for illegals, were fkd 😮

[@davidbarlow350]

A few more houses for Zelensky,he can add to his two yachts,and get his mates a new Merc every year.

[@leehenry5764]

They have moved off-shore accounts from Russia to Ukraine😂

[@sharonhyde7735]

And then the fishing is screwed over! Starve us out why don't they

[@Jhamblen]

Yeah something very dodgy going on there

[@stuc3195]

The £700m spent so on the not sending anyone to Rwanda scheme. The £7m a day spent housing asylum seekers. The £8bn spent on wasted PPE. There's always been plenty of money for nurses and teachers . In fact £130bn since 2019 could have been available if the Government wasn't both corrupt and incompetent.

[@stobeszx9674]

Problem is govt includes the corrupt civil service, the corrupt palace of Westmonster, the corrupt HoL........thery're all part of the problem. Civil (dis)service =6 Palace of Westmonster & incumbents= 6 House of Lords = 6 Put them.together.....let him who hath understanding of the number of the beast....it is a human number.....six hundred and sixty six 6 6 6.

[@davehunter9342]

The £350 million a day to EU ( before any refund they granted us) is still called a lie by many in MSM.

[@jjrider6758]

@@stobeszx9674 So sayeth Iron Maiden..

[@billstevenson596]

Well the lack of money has NEVER EVER detered GIVING MONEY AWAY, why not claim back from France,or Ukraine or the 84m to other countries and use that?? But OH NO it will be borrowed and added to the existing repayment most taxpayers will have to pay

[@trucker4567]

Starmer and his ilk will bankrupt the country.

[@davidbarlow350]

Take a look at the overseas aid budget,it runs into billions and achieves nothing,except line the pockets of a few crooks.

[@beerwizard9948]

Ask Dido (thieving shitbag) Harding were our £27 billion went.

[@planter13]

If you need to find British tax payers money, go to the mosques and so called charities that built them. Also bbc funding

[@leonardireland7362]

Makes me laugh they only pick the ones that like him and his party, go and ask the 75% that didn't vote for him and his party

[@stevec6427]

You might want to look at past election vote shares. This wasn't unusual

[@JPB-zu6wd]

"Socialism" the great race to the BOTTOM.....

[@andrewrose7800]

Spending other people's money...

[@stobeszx9674]

Socialism.....a proven, failure of a concept in every place it has been implemented........descending into communism/Marxism each time it has happened, and then thousands, if not millions perish under the despotic tyrants who end up in power wherever this gets implemented....history having repeated itself time after time.....and still the idiots don't listen The mark of a true fool is that where they keep trying the same thing and expect a different result, and each time it fails......well that's socialism/communism/Marxism for you......along with it's numerous historical (or should that be hysterical...???) proponents for you...........!!!

[@timhanser1943]

No the Tories were an absolute disgrace.

[@jjrider6758]

..and what a dirty, brown, smelly bottom it is too..

[@JulieMalone-oy1ll]

Funny how the labs can find funds to go elsewhere but not for our country, so much waste the labs have always been like that, thats why ive never voted for the labs,and i never will, i cant stand them at all

[@parzival1958]

This was always going to happen when Liebour got into power.

[@user-ei8eo6qz8o]

Get a grip Conservative did this.

[@user-ei8eo6qz8o]

Labour

[@raymonddonaghy2314]

​@@user-ei8eo6qz8obut we haven't had a Conservative government only in name

[@user-ei8eo6qz8o]

@raymonddonaghy2314 Conservative was here for 14 years or was I sleeping.

[@davehunter9342]

Starmer kept quiet in lead up to election and still won ?

[@minglimw]

Money has to be found. They find it every day for war and war and war.

[@alanpearce1753]

And he gives 84 million to the middle east, and africa

[@theresawinder7403]

Exactly!!

[@patricktracey7424]

start with parliament and its exorbitant costs for the useless medieval pomp and dressup. decrease there salaries or put MPs on performance related pay, stop subsidising food and drink let them bring their own lunch box like everyone else has to do, no more second homes allowances let them say in a government hostel in london when attending parliament.let them travel business class at best.

[@davidbarlow350]

Parliament also throws away over 250 tons of food every year. Noses .literally,in the trough.

[@leefox5596]

Why not just do a zoom call

[@imbonkers3629]

And how many billions for their bs green dream 🙄

[@evgeniynagornyak1150]

Green dream for illegals to live in green zones.

[@timhanser1943]

Tories = 10 billion for the Rwanda gimmick, disgusting.

[@7th.trumpet]

Hikes on petrol, food and clothes will pay for it ! Just like it's paying for thousands of filth to pour across our boarders each day !!!!

[@joshsmitch5641]

the cost of petrol has dropped

[@paulwhitty8032]

Ask Khan for the money .that thief is making plenty with his NASTY SCHEMES.

[@samuelbennington6728]

And hes still in £18bn debt

[@oldgamer1299]

I live in a Labour prominent area, and I hear so many saying they will NOT be voting Labour again... I Deja vu

[@juanfabulous]

Simply not true 😂😂😂😂

[@Sidb26]

Freedom of speech is not a crime

[@garethpickrel]

It soon will be.

[@davidbarlow350]

Except in KZbin comments sections while criticising the lefties.

[@Sidb26]

@@davidbarlow350 50 50 chance of that msg been removed

[@garethpickrel]

@@davidbarlow350 You can say that again, getting knocked off 3 or 4 times a week for commenting against the lunatic left.

[@markscott6414]

Everything gets deleted anyway.

[@lockymonster]

The street where the Leeds riots started, full of unemployed migrants and a car parked outside, cigarettes in one hand and a bottle of beer in the other.

[@elizabethanthony3916]

And loads of kids they want us to pay for ! 👍

[@gftjghdt3582]

It's coming from the labour magic money tree

[@jjrider6758]

Well they've been feeding it on 'woke' progressive bull-sh1t for the past 14 years, so it should be bearing a lot of fruit by now ?..

[@user-bo7fc9tj4z]

Unions vs Labour has begun already.

[@garethpickrel]

History repeats itself.

[@ruthcollins2841]

1970s again.😊

[@garethpickrel]

@@ruthcollins2841 Absolutely, it happens every time.

[@martyn6792]

As usual, labour will be shaking the magic money tree

[@hTyKn1]

I think you'll find that Labour has a magic money tree so no need to worry

[@mrmeldrew693]

The freezing of the tax thresholds is one of the most aggressive tax hikes ever, yet hardly anyone seems to care.

[@DavidGetling]

Saying more pay will attract more teachers is highly disingenuous, because there are thousands of teachers out there that schools simply point blank refuse to employ. They are the older more experienced ones, who would be happy to work for the current salaries, but schools don't want them because they are higher up the pay scale than newly qualified teachers or trainees. Before returning to the UK I can remember getting a position at an international school in Italy. There was no haggling over pay. I was put straight on their highest level for newly recruited staff. However on returning to the UK no school wanted me. So for the past 10 years I privately tutored A-level maths, further maths, physics and chemistry. All are subjects I know inside out, and all are shortage subjects.

[@hevchip741]

How many people 'learning a job' get paid as well as a junior doctor. Let's remember, they are not yet qualified.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Good.point

[@alaneversfield9823]

Well stop giving away the little bit that we have got don’t spend what we haven’t got.

[@vincew8609]

Here we go,tax and spend. Try raising the income tax threshold so it's fair for everyone.

[@garethpickrel]

New it.

[@BlackGriffin195]

Simpler than the pay rise. and helps every WORKER and pensioner for that matter

[@davidbarlow350]

As Reform intended to do.

[@garethpickrel]

@@davidbarlow350 Know all.

[@davidbarlow350]

@@garethpickrel You've made two nonsense comments. Want to try for a third?

[@foxyjp100]

How about putting the Mps tax up they make about 90,000 a year and get allowances to have an office and rent a property in London if the want. And all they do is sit on there arse doing nothing. Where nurses are run off there feet for 30,000

[@mikenayler5281]

Give huge pay rises, and it won’t be long before all the other sectors want it as well. We are already in debt. This happens whenever Labour are in government. It will be strikes next and the country will grind to a halt, and guess who is going to pay for all the money Labour are throwing around. You and I.

[@user-ht4bl6si1s]

Very simply, the country cannot afford it. Just like the public pensions that sre a ticking time bomb.

[@bobsocks7575]

Labour have said an above inflation pay rise, that’s easy to say when inflation is so low, they were critical of not offering an above inflation pay rise when it was up near double figures and beyond, but would never have offered it themselves, the most hypocritical party in history.

[@user-bo7fc9tj4z]

They always increase the council tax.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Yes before labour were in government ugh. Labour councils always raised council tax more. Theyvare revaluation Council tax inbwes and I think starmer said he would fobthe same. So watch out if y hsve a bit better bigger house. Policies of. Envy St play.

[@lesleylamy]

No your local council raises council tax

[@user-bo7fc9tj4z]

@@lesleylamy Under government restrictions and pressure councils raise the tax.

[@archiemcberry7102]

Rachel will raise taxes to get this money. The taxpayers still have some money left so go get it.

[@fate9735]

10 billion public sector pay rise lol what a joke to help everyone with a pay rise to be able to deal with the huge price increase of daily living more like we need a 200 300 billion pay rise, but this 10 billion will go to the sectors that are over the average wage where its not needed

[@stuc3195]

And yet if the Tories had remained in power you'd all happily have paid them the same £10bn not to send anyone to Rwanda? Crazy world eh

[@fate9735]

what has Rwanda got to do with this?? please explain? nothing my comment was to do with the 10 billion to pop public sector pay rise when it wont go the actual working class that need it, it will go the the sector that get really good wages already,, and as for Rwanda atleast it was something they where scared of and made them think twice coming over, instead of ripping it away and opening the flood gates like tony blair did under labour that started this whole mess, im sure people have memory loss and forget it was labour that started this mess with all the immigration laws they brought in before that we would have 42 thousand that would come in a year on work permits,, but smashing the smuggler gangs are the way even tho there has been task forces doing this the last 10 years catch 1 5 more pop up it will never work. the only thing that will work is taking the dingy`s back to france

[@Niktriv78901]

They haven’t done anything right yet, what’s the pay rise for???? Should be a pay deduction

[@stevenhibberd4162]

What pay them more for selling our country down the river. Literaly no accountability

[@robertsmith9810]

novel idea let mp`s take a pay cut stop paying Lords a fee for turning up

[@leehenry5764]

Pay rise for a worst service

[@paulb1034]

Starmer and Reeves will have their Truss moment with the country's creditors very soon, who will want to lend money to pay for this?

[@paulclairethomas1344]

Great.. But where is the money coming from...? Watch your payslip as the income tax rises and along with all other relevant rises..

How about getting back all those payments to scammers during COVID!

[@user-mx1gh3mn3w]

It's not fair those like me who had/ have only private sector jobs get/ got much lower pay etc!

[@lindawhittle3871]

Claw back PPE payments to buddies

[@bobsocks7575]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[@1953streeky]

Those knobs strolling about like clowns

[@no-knickers-emma1112]

Prepare for green tax scam hikes.

[@brendanmorrissey2104]

Just waiting for them to put a " Carbon Tax " on fuel, on top of the fuel duty we already pay.

[@87CVH]

Why would it be a scam?

[@davehunter9342]

Learn from Khan, he must see a way to tax breathing the foul air under London

[@87CVH]

@@davehunter9342 exactly Khan is doing what is needed even if it's unpopular with the selfish people

[@wulfsorenson8859]

@@87CVHcurious how you ‘green’ Marxists have zero issue with mass migration, overpopulation and the demolition of the green belt to build council houses…it’s almost as if you’re just out to harm the white working and middle classes.

[@hissingsidll750]

My sister is a head teacher......AND SHE'S ROLLING IN IT....AND DOES NOT DESERVE IT

[@jobro1511]

dont you like your sister

[@evgeniynagornyak1150]

Idiot. The more important job in the world is a teacher. They spend all day,trying to educate humans. No money would be enough for their work.

[@hissingsidll750]

@@jobro1511 In sister mode she`s fine.....in teacher mode she`s insufferable....a typical , lazy lefty know it all....who actually knows nothing, pleading victim hood all of the time but being very well paid and always on bloody holiday

[@thegreenbaron6439]

Well, you voted Labour.

[@elizabethanthony3916]

I didn't !

[@kevinrobb86]

LMAO! back to the 70s

[@hissingsidll750]

Even if they did have the money.....WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE IT

[@taffyterrier]

They shouldn’t.

[@ianmorrison5474]

I guess people should all move to the public sector, make them find the money from somewhere else. They are also being instructed by the UN to continuously send billions abroad, out of the country, to fund the war's apparently.

[@timetraveller9321]

We don’t have money for teachers and the nhs worker but we can spend £8 million a day on migrants hotels it’s a disaster no doubt they will borrow the money and we will be in debt again for years to come 😊

[@happinesschidera2293]

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[@MichealEdson]

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[@AliceAlice-zx6vd]

What opportunities are there in the market, and how do I profit from it?

[@happinesschidera2293]

You can make a lot of money from the market regardless of whether it strengthens or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.

[@miracleekezie]

I would really like to know how this actually works.

[@happinesschidera2293]

All you need is a good capital, and the service of a professional broker, with those your investment will most certainly produce high yields.

[@markstevens6568]

Don’t worry, they’ll print the 10bn……..the ink is now on order…….

[@deklane3139]

Travelling from A to B is about to get a lot more expensive.

[@davidsmith8728]

There is another solution - tell the unions that if they want 5.5% pay rise, then 5.5% of the workforce will be sacked in order to pay for the pay rise of the remaining staff. A lot of the public sector is over-staffed anyway.

[@user-rt1si7uh7t]

They can get lost , petition against this

[@Deeejjj64]

Public sector workers do less hours have more holidays and have the most days off sick. Joke

[@RobertK-d6z]

No surprises here labour just doesn't give a dam worst decision these coming to power

[@EZEKIELAIA]

Our so called "king" owes the Exchequer 6 billion. His Son owes the Exchequer at keadt 660,00 pounds...you could start there Karmer!????

[@tenniskinsella7768]

What are y talking about

[@terry3494]

I only had 2 children because i cant afford more! If you keep giving people will have more kids! 💯 theres a women who lives near me with 18 kids, shes never worked ! Been given 2 houses side by side by the government!

[@truckerfromreno]

The native birthrate is below two. Don't raise it.

[@DavidM-gx8fs]

Make sure imagrants don’t have larger families bet they will be paid for more by this goverment

[@MenBehavingBadly.]

That’s funny on most council estates women have 2-3 sometimes 3-4 I guess that must have been government statistics they want us to believe our birth rates are dropping yet the hospitals are full of mommy’s 🤣🤣

[@lockymonster]

If you're going to have more children than you can give more tax breaks for working families not benefits.

[@spectre750]

Socialists always enlarge the state apparatus. The bigger the state, the more people depend upon the state. The bigger the state, the more pension contributions for non productive members of society has to be, further contributing to the burden on taxpayers. State spending rarely contributes positively to a countries GDP, Its becomes a drain only. Just look at the farce of HS2! Ever increasing costs because the contract was awarded on a cost plus basis. So as costs rise the profit of the contractors are protected. Labour are also committed to squandering taxpayer money on Ukraine and supporting the suicide of Net Stupid for our industry. We've lost steel making and fertiliser production in the UK and a direct result of Net Stupid.

[@user-uf9dh2un5f]

Money can be generated every 12 weeks. Unlimited amounts too but they refuse to profit off of a plant. Legalisation of Cannabis would generate billions per year, all profits could go into the NHS and Schools. Colorado has made over $14 Billion since 2023....

[@JamieJammy]

Interesting the amount of money earned by drugs in the UK .

[@leehenry5764]

No! They would tax it to death like in Cali.

[@user-uf9dh2un5f]

@leehenry5764 It wouldn't matter, it's taxed in the US now and they still rake in Billions

[@leehenry5764]

@@user-uf9dh2un5f Yes it would for us who smoke it

[@TheHidden-ny4rk]

Gotta pay the masters to do their treacherously.

[@Rangyplunk]

How about making a tough call and lowering your money and expenses to help pay for the pay rises, oh and include all your ministers in this.

[@gadagaz]

I work in the NHS, in a clerical role and I don't want an increase because of what it subsequently means. We only had one last year and can we say anything is different? No, but taxes are absolutely sky high and everyone else suffers. Give the right people in the NHS the increase and get rid of all the unnecessary senior managers and middle managers. Also stop paying external consultants, create the jobs within. More money isn't needed, far better resourcing and allocation is!

[@thisismetoday]

Apparently, they just found a meagre 10 billion that were to be spent on the Rwanda scheme. Good start IMHO

[@barryfender2024]

I hope I’m not going to be paying all labour bills!!!Where are they going to get all this money from???!!!Chrissy😡🤨

[@chrispig7748]

Here we go again, massive pay rises for already highly paid public sector workers. Shame the rest of us don’t get the same

[@scottmcadam4509]

Have they tried looking down the back of the couch ?

[@sarahwagland1559]

Meanwhile carers and bin men struggle on minimum wage.

[@bobsocks7575]

So do some civil servants

[@mrmeldrew693]

Why would you expect bin men to be highly paid?!

[@elizabethanthony3916]

​@@mrmeldrew693Because they do a shitty job no one else wants to do !

[@mrmeldrew693]

@elizabethanthony3916 nobody WANTS an unskilled, minimum wage job.....lots of people have them. 35 hours a week at minimum wage is about £21,000....a new teacher, (somewhat more responsibility than moving a bin) makes £30,000 after acquiring expensive qualifications over years.....

[@barrymcdonagh1453]

The people in this country are struggling to survive, We can’t afford to live.why are they getting a pay rise now,This is why some people prefer to go on benefits, because working on a lower wage doesn’t pay.

[@andybarrell1731]

Why isn’t anybody asking the tax payer about this pay rise, it all comes out of our money

[@mikadavies660]

5.5% pay increase is still pathetic! Over the last few years all of their salaries have effectively dropped 15% to 20%

[@taffyterrier]

Doctors salaries haven’t dropped.

[@mikadavies660]

@taffyterrier No but the cost of living for everyone in UK has gone up 25% in 3 to 4 years... This is not a few Government people's wages ... This is everyone in the entire UK is suffering because of Conservatives shite management and corruption over the last 15yrs and the concentration of the corruption was when Boris was in power.

[@At_the_races]

Labour rewarding their union paymasters.

[@stevenwebb3082]

They could just readjust their package and reduce the pension contributions from the state by 5%. Would still get more contributions than 95% of the private sector.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

Labour and the politics of populism and the magic money tree.

[@timhanser1943]

Meanwhile the Tories burn 10 BILLION on the Rwanda gimmick , they should be on ZERO seats , who the … voted for them , they were a disgrace.

[@ydexpert131]

High time UK starts charging school fees...it need not be 30k a year like independent however at least 1k per year to get good teachers and pay the existing teachers better salary...same is true with NHS.. NHS should start charging a basic fees for GP appointments and scans....There are many schools where teachers are not there for all subjects and nurses and doctors are under tremendous pressure...so in the national interest UK should start charging for schools and GP and hospital appointments...

[@theresawinder7403]

Agreed

[@urbanyeti5233]

As someone who works in the public sector the issue isn’t pay rises, it’s cost of living. It’s no good giving someone a 5% pay rise if everything including rent, energy and fuel else has gone up by over 5%.

[@steveatkinson689]

How do you think the private sector feel in losing monies that are forwarded to the commies but whom are on a very good deal anyway WITHOUT that whacking great mostly UNFUNDED pension !!!

[@taffyterrier]

Spot the economic illiterate.

[@urbanyeti5233]

@@taffyterrier I didn’t mean the 5% rise meant that 5% rises in other cost was more than the money you would receive. I meant that the 5% rise would still be less than the cost of living rises.

[@taffyterrier]

@@urbanyeti5233 The problem is that the money you would receive is significantly more than the 5% rises in other costs. The 5% rise would be more than any increase in the cost of living.

[@urbanyeti5233]

@@taffyterrier yeah sorry I wasn’t clear on that. I meant that a 5% pay rise doesn’t cover the costs of the recent rises in food fuel and rent which are significantly more than what the 5% would cover as most government workers (despite what’s reported) are fairly low paid) The % amount is irrelevant. For years we have had 1-2% pay rises and no one really grumbled as this was covering cost of living increases. It’s not now so people are now unhappy with 1-2% rents where I live have almost doubled in the last few years so people I work with have moved further and further away but then fuel and travel costs have gone up massively. It’s not just a problem with public sector either. The private sector is having the same problems and are struggling to recruit workers on the wages they are offering

[@DaystromDataConcepts]

yes, teachers and nurses need pay rises, but so do most of us. I don't think an NHS consultant on 125K should demand more, nor do I think many of the other public sector workers who seem to feel entitled because it's the "bottomless pit" of British tax payers who fund their wages. When you don't work in the wasteful public sector and your company doesn't do well or you don't perform, you don't get automatic pay rises above inflation, nor do you expect bonuses. The NHS continually requires gargantuan amounts of money and yet there is so much room for efficiencies to deal with this. Instead, the NHS is like a house with a big hole in the roof and the only answer is to spend more on bigger heating systems rather than fix the hole in the roof! My father worked for a local authority council after working in the private sector all his life and was astonished at the blatant waste and employee apathy. When its the public that pays your wages, the attitude seemed to be that they can get away with doing as little as possible and yet expect annual pay rises. Finally, junior doctors all know exactly what they're getting into when they sign up for medical school. They know how bad the pay is for a few years while they learn their trade. They are withdrawing their labour due to wanting more money. However, isn't that a violation of the Hippocratic oath? To do no harm,? It seems when it comes to making more money, that vocational pledge has gone by the wayside without anyone commenting on it. A junior doctor is an apprenticeship, you work long hours for poor pay. However, your income trajectory rises steeply, far more than most careers when you get past that. Sure, we all deserve a little more, but I dislike the sense of entitlement when it comes to the public purse being the source of your wages.

[@taffyterrier]

Junior doctors are well paid.

[@awolf913]

So in other words, pay rise but then tax goes up and inflation which means there is no pay rise.

[@Zoro007]

Hmmmm... where to get the money from?... The pensioners have amassed wealth... clobber them..oh and the car owners.. clobber them...oh yeah the home owners..clobber them as well.... Council tax..increase that.., luverly jubbley.....oh and increase foriegn aid why were at it.... another crisis sorted....Next..!!!!

[@user-bo7fc9tj4z]

Pensioners are paying taxes on their pensions. Pensioners have worked hard and paid all their lives and keep paying taxes.

[@user-bo7fc9tj4z]

Do you pay council tax?

[@Zoro007]

@@user-bo7fc9tj4z Of course I do..

[@Zoro007]

Yes I'm a council tax paying pensioner!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Humanityngh]

I can not understand why the public sector does not deserve descent increases

[@taffyterrier]

It performs poorly.

[@shaunnewell1971]

Stop wasting money and give them 10% pay rises. I don’t work for the nhs or even been to hospital and 45 years old But I know if I was in trouble, that’s the first place I would go for help . They are there every single day helping us. We all clapped for our heroes not long ago. Please don’t forget who was in the thick of it. Putting there lives at risk. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@shaunnewell1971]

I voted for reform. I have never voted for these clowns 🤡

[@shaunnewell1971]

Because I know a newly qualified nurse who will be put on £13 an hour after the pay rise if it happens just been at university for three years that’s horrendous . Plus do you ever go to the hospital 🏥 Because next time you do . I hope you go BUPA Because one thing I hate is hypocrites

[@redprince3158]

Typical Labour ! This what happens every time they get into power the imaginary money tree 😊

[@chandp2650]

Love how everyone is pissed off who work for private company, when the nhs workers and teachers were on streets protesting then normal people like oh these people should not go to food banks. Dubul standard of public not willing to pay a bit of tax so the NHS workers can have decent pay and work on improving NHS workers and NHS in long run shame on all you.

[@taffyterrier]

NHS workers are overpaid.

[@hindu12259]

Money will fall from the sky or they will force small business to close down or pay more taxes.

[@lockymonster]

How about raising the tax threshold to what they call the cost of living, minimum wage shouldn't be taxed to support unions.

[@janeallman1762]

till thay sort out ALL the problems in this contry thay should all have a pay freeze

[@musiccatchristin]

'Public sector' is a wide term.... Iike our council office workers dont need more given we dont get service anyway. Private sector workers struggle too..