Only 1% of British Columbia's old growth forests remain, researchers find

[@CocodreamBLM]

I hate that all the forest around the world are being cut down I wish more people cared about it

[@briellehunter7233]

End global warming by planting more trees.

[@Take_Flight465]

pisses me off to see the greed of a lot of company's interested only in quick money while they destroy the planet for their very own children.

[@ClayOutside]

I care, Travis!

[@turdferguson74]

I’m beginning to think humans have never and will never see the big picture.

[@robhill2306]

Thats because they never look at the whole picture

[@tabithadebolt1708]

That's because of humankinds sin nature, the nature within. We always destroy things.That's why we will always have wars. So we must eventually be judged by the living God. Jesus came to take our place so that we could be forgiven and start a relationship with this God.

[@donnastokes2187]

To see trees that old cut down is sickening. God help us

[@rogiervantilburg3440]

New growth forests also have less biodiversity, because the trees that were replanted are for commercial use.

[@tallisrocktube]

Actually it's the complete opposite- as really large trees choke off other forms of plant growth foliage with pine needles and dead leaves and block ground light.

[@duulo4843]

@@tallisrocktube based on this comment alone, you’ve definitely never seen the difference between a new and old growth forest.

[@ciaragarrity6425]

This video deserves way more views! Thank you for raising awareness!

[@JustinCatanoso-t8v]

29,000 is actually a lot. But yes, millions more in Canada alone should be aware of this.

[@manie3232]

I was in Wilmington, North Carolina a few years back and at their port they had huge piles of wood pellets ready to be shipped to Europe for power generation. Their power generation is our deforestation.

[@nancypowers5901]

why does ancient living things need to fall to satisfy the greed of the few mindless creeps

[@OlivaSullen]

Temperate rainforests store twice as much carbon per hectare as the most carbon-dense tropical rainforests. Old growth trees are twice as adept at carbon storage as the amazon rainforest, and each old growth tree reduces carbon emissions to the equivalent of 500 cars a year. (Dominick DellaSala, president and chief scientist at the Geos Institute, and peer-reviewed article by Australian scientists, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences)

[@tallisrocktube]

So what you are saying is plants use Carbon..great so whats the carbon crisis.

[@Undivided-X]

Man, these trees are huge. I can't imagine the carbon-sink loss that even one of these trees being cut would cause. Seeing hundreds of these logs is extremely depressing.

[@OlivaSullen]

1 old growth tree = 500 car emissions a year. 2x the rate of carbon storage of the amazon.

[@brettb9194]

there is a plume of carbon dioxide over senescent temperate forests: micro organisms associated with decay are the same as you and me, they inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide - that is why there is no net gain in oxygen from a forest (for there to be a net gain there can be no rot - the Earth's oxygen atmosphere comes from blue-green algae that sank in the ocean, deep enough that aerobic decay is no longer possible)

[@brettb9194]

@@OlivaSullen the temperate rainforest (mostly wood) is 10x the density of tropical rainforest (mostly leaves) so you correctly point out the carbon absorption of old growth is much less than immature forest (10 years and older, there is a period of carbon emissions directly after logging and before reforestation takes hold the old stumps and debris) if the old growth tree has decay (and most of them do, sometimes a visible dead top, sometimes less visible butt rot and cavities) then it actually is emitting carbon dioxide - the microbes involved in decay breathe in O2 and exhale CO2 same as you - in tropical/semi-tropical forest there is very little litter on the forest floor, the temp and humidity allow the decay to proceed at a rapid rate, so the actual carbon storage is only the present leaves and wood, whereas temperate rainforest may have several years accumulation of debris only partially decayed

[@Undivided-X]

@@brettb9194 i beg to differ. i live in India and the amount of leaf litter in our mixed and moist deciduous forests in the Western Ghats is huge.

[@flakgun153]

For carbon sink purposes, it's more efficient to cut them down and replant them. Wooden furniture and homes are in fact a carbon sink

[@madisoncaines8059]

Thank you SO MUCH for making this! Shared!

[@MongabayTV]

We're glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing!

[@christuttle3980]

Vancouver Island has the Oldest and Largest park in British Columbia, Strathcona Park, plus there’s hundreds of parks with old growth trees.Not to mention Thousands of parks in the rest of BC with millions of old growth trees in it!

[@Take_Flight465]

Canada Is very large. BC should not be the only place left to find such growth. Greed is destroying Canadas Land

[@tnbrfller]

Holberg, Mahatta river, Gold river, Port Hardy, Port McNeill, Sayward, Port Alice, Rivers Inlet, Ocean Falls, Broughton Island, Malcolm Island, and on, and on. All former Forest communities that are shadows of themselves because the amount of over harvesting, and now almost don't exist or massively scaled back.

[@che_zzy]

mass deforestation has created such a drastic change in our environment. forest fires be more prevalent than ever.

[@eddiedecazalet6836]

Ignorance, greed, stupidity lives within the Human Race

[@manie3232]

Exactly!

[@sunnycriti9809]

Mostly in the Western race. You can't blame the native Indians for this

[@TopGreaser]

@@sunnycriti9809 if you guys advanced you would have cut down all these trees and caused wars with each other.

[@nogreatreset8506]

@@sunnycriti9809 human race* All people from everywhere have caused destruction to the natural world.

[@charliek4190]

TLF 46, Teal Jones Group, with the permission of Premier Horgan have started cutting the last of the old growth at Fairy Creek, Vancouver Island, BC. Teal Jones in 2019 stopped logging the 2nd growth as they do not want to pay the stumpage fees to the province of BC. If they cannot have the old growth they will lay employees off.

[@AirRen420]

Wrong.

[@brettb9194]

stumpage goes up and down but it does not go away, it is based on market prices - never zero I notice also it is not "the last of the old growth" also Fairy Creek is not a particularly unique area, just close enough for UVIC weirdos to do a daytrip - how you people got an engineering program is beyond me, the school teachers you turn out are a complete and utter disaster

[@albertbalazs9765]

who the fuck is teal jones group and the Horgan govt. to sell peoples forrest to lumber muffia for pennies this people belongs in jail

[@Beardinc]

This is factually incorrect. The zones where TJ is going to log is actually outside the Fairy Creek watershed. This is all publicly available info. Look at the maps for yourself.

[@manie3232]

All you have to do is look at Google Earth and you can see for yourself that huge swaths of land in western Canada have been deforested.

[@RR-lq3ef]

I am calling B.S. on the statement that only 1 % of old growth remains in B.C.

[@michaelbjorge8341]

Thank for this video, we need to protect our last little stands of Old Growth.

[@dirkschmeller5664]

We need to save way more than just our stands of primary forest. Humans are destroying many ecosystems around the world.

[@kycp2006]

@@dirkschmeller5664 Yes.

[@pheelickscanari904]

@@dirkschmeller5664 it's too late no one cares

[@dirkschmeller5664]

@@pheelickscanari904 I would not yet be so pessimistic. There is always a chance and there is always hope.

[@iamnotevenanumber3312]

@@pheelickscanari904 Maybe you don't care. But we are many who does!

[@tallisrocktube]

Logging in BC is only done on Crown land tree farm licensed ..under strictly regulated guidelines in respect of cut block sizes and environmental guidelines under the BC forest practices code .. so the idea that truck loads of loggers go running amuck cutting everything in sight is false..it's a highly managed resource.

[@Ginger198]

Is there a link to what they use the with the timber? I was so surprise that they are turn into wood pellets considering how valuable they are, I thought they're use to rebuilt ancient architectures like notre dame or something

[@Pato-sp2pr]

Yeah that just pours salt on the wound. Not that I support it but these trees could be used for much better purposes than just being minced into wood pellets.

[@AnnaLVajda]

Yeah well Kimberly Clark of Kleenex made tissue from them from them for years and Home Depot made deck chairs so not stuff you could not use 50 year old trees for instead. Some people take a slab and make a unique large table top from them but most probably do not even know if it is just a paper product for example. It's a biosphere too that other species need to exist it's like Avatar.

[@voidremoved]

yeah the devil is obviously real so why doesnt everyone believe in God yet?

[@penguinfromantartica]

250 year old oak trees are being sacrificed in France for the hidden structure inside Notre Dame. They could have used something else for the beams.

[@gives_bad_advice]

One of these trees is more valuable and more beautiful than Notre Dame.

[@manie3232]

It's common sense that a tree wouldn't be carbon neutral as the replacement tree would take as much as 100 years to be as big. And I'm not even trained in environmental science.

[@shaygalley1277]

Did you go to grade 3 though because in grade 3 they taught you a growing tree like a sapling absorbs twice as much CO2 and gives off twice as much oxygen that’s grade 3 shit dopey

[@cyberhype5495]

It should be illegal to cut ANY old growth forest

[@tnbrfller]

Vancouver. BC's largest clear cut. That's an awful lot of people that would have been without homes. Forestry built this Province, but has been grossly mismanaged.

[@kevingraham236]

Thank you for the production of this informative video! But my question is a simple one, can we actually establish just how much old growth forest still remains? Is it 51,000 sq miles or in fact 15,000 sq miles ? Why the disparage in scientifically determining exactly (give or take) how much old growth forest is left either for commercial use or to be declared a sanctuary! I feel that if both parties the government and the scientific community work together in full partnership... a solution through a resolution might be better served ! Namaste

[@aaronvallejo8220]

Could we grow Giga farms worth of bamboo for wood heating pellets instead? Think of Tesla Gigafactories...imagine Giga farms...mass producing bamboo, food, biochar. If Tesla thinks we need 100 factories for renewables and clean transport, will we need 10,000 Giga farms around the planet for sustainability and reversing carbon levels?

[@sdcw2437]

Forests are the OG gigafarms, my man! haha just playing... that's a super interesting idea. But how does it address the carbon emissions factor? If we grow and burn more bio mass (i.e. carbon) than forests and natural land can sequester, then we're still increasing instead of offsetting emissions. Also, so many giga farms worldwide may mean paving over natural land for bamboo farms. Natural grasslands, peatlands, etc. also house massive amounts of carbon and biodiversity. Would that loss be a good trade off? Maybe if biomass gigafarms replaced unnecessary non-regenerative agriculture land. Anyway, it's a really cool and thought-provoking idea!

[@CanadianSkylights]

Thank you for the video

[@georgej7077]

On Vancouver Island I've observed that the newly planted trees get cut after 30-40 years just as they're starting to efficiently capture carbon. After loggers do their clear cut the amount of non commercially viable fibre left behind is staggering. I'd be interested in seeing a non industry biased study to get the actual carbon footprint of logging in BC.

[@brockroth]

Also having a private company (mosaic) owning the land on Van Island where so much old growth was.. is so weird to me.

[@georgej7077]

@@brockroth I still can't wrap my mind around how so much of Vancouver Island was deeded to a private company, the province needs to get it back in the hands of the people where it belongs.

[@brockroth]

@@georgej7077 I don't how it's still happening either. Especially after the huge protest in 95 for clayoquot sound. We have already been through this whole process and the people of Canada already showed they are extremely against it. We can't even get past the gates to see what's happening to our own land!

[@georgej7077]

@@brockroth Yep, they do a pretty good job of hiding what their doing. I can get past the gates on my dirt bike and what's out of view from the main roads is pretty disturbing. I try not to look up.

[@firstpersonforestry3762]

@brockroth On another note... Those private companies don't even have to abide by the the same regulations. They are actually allowed to cut down a percentage of trees located within riparian management areas (Fish streams). like c'mon man.

[@nancypowers5901]

doesnt the arrest of a thousand protesters speak volumes against this sick cruel act

[@canadianintheend]

Thank you for sharing. I figured our tree's are going overseas big market for the ones cutting them down!

[@zillafact]

Sadly, so long as there is demand for wood, trees will always meet the saw. That's just the way it is.

[@mav5204]

Cut down for fuel what a waste

[@0FlightlessBird0]

Spoiler alert: the government do anything! Horgan continues to sell it all out

[@albertbalazs9765]

Horgan got punished by god he don't have to much time all this crooks will pay for what they did to this planet

[@MrFakit]

All politicians are crooks, bought off by business

[@jabusholman1799]

Your ceiling is wood. Is steel or concrete More sustainable

[@mikesrandomvideos]

As I was watching I saw so Many DESEASED trees that were cut down. Look at the middle of the tree and see the voids....I Myself trust the experts that observe the trees and mark them to be removed. So many people think they know more than the experts that decide what trees need to fall and what trees need to stay.....AND all the COMPLAINING people in this video OWN A HOUSE MADE OF WOOD.....telling other people what to do when YOU are doing what YOU SHOULD NOT DO is call a HYPOCRIT....

[@AnnaLVajda]

Yeah some of them I remember I grew up in an old farm house someone had planted trees over a hundred year earlier as a wind block behind it you could see them a mile or more down the road they were the tallest but a few got rot and we had to cut them down or risk them crashing through our roof. We left the healthy ones though.

[@voidremoved]

the world is all fucked up from so called experts. wtf is an expert. I am the only expert around these days.

[@T3H455F4C3]

You understand that the "DESEASED trees" are habitat for various species of birds, insects and probably other animals. This isn't just about the trees.

[@Shakeelkhan-t9v]

Houra. Bravo to the loggers clear cut of the last 1%. And make way for land to build houses needed to solve Canada housing crisis

[@87697]

If you want wood for pellets come to new zealand we can grow a Pine trees in half The time at normally takes in the northern hemisphere

[@thricecrazy33]

they are timbering for pallets? Here`s a fact, old dying trees release carbon.

[@manie3232]

We have not only more people, but that compounded by more people living much more unsustainably.

[@wildandliving]

They won't money...

[@MrFakit]

As a BCian, yes it's too late. sold to the highest bidder

[@adrianmcvittie9127]

Mmmmmmmm I’m sad

[@tedsmith9825]

Our Species many many centuries ago once Lived in the Trees. We lived Together with the Trees. The Forests gave us everything we needed to Live in Harmony with our Planet. Our Species is Doomed to go the way of many other species from this planet. Unfortunately there will be much Suffering before this Earth Purges our Species from it. Unfortunate.

[@MagnusFabrication]

70000 years ago humans almost went extinct. One theory is that a supervolcano in Indonesia erupted, blocking out the sky with ash, plunging the Earth into an ice age, and killing off all but the hardiest humans. Some scientists think our population was as low as a few thousand. The fact we survived that makes me think humans nowadays, with bunkers, can survive similar or even worse disasters.

[@user-vk8wc7op4e]

Despicable.....trees is oxygen....fools....all they see is dollar signs...

[@mikemcd]

Chop baby chop!

[@mikkayosef8008]

The lungs of this planet that we live on spans its entirety but unfortunately so too do we!

[@charlottehigginbotham3327]

Really! What a waste! So sad!

[@tptp-yl6gr]

B,C. has millions of hectares of trees to log off. Just leave Fairy Creek alone. The repercussions would last forever if you did.

[@skylarsoper241]

1 percent eh ,…….. I’m going to call bull shit , cause I’ve seen with my own eyes more than that

[@T3H455F4C3]

So you have seen 100% of the trees and more then 1% are old growth?

[@skylarsoper241]

Not all but a good percentage 4th gen BC Logger , logged all over this beautiful province and seen a lot of bush , I have seen and been working in areas that have been logged for over 100 yrs and still found a lot of old growth as I see it we have gotten all the easy old growth , now we are working on the not so easy to get big logs , like it or not there will always be a market for it and a demand

[@skylarsoper241]

This is supernatural BC , been that way long before you or I or any of us on KZbin, does not matter if you “hug them or cut them down , it’s human beings that are the problem plain and simple , the human race is to the planet, what aids is to human race , or maybe cancer 🤔

[@charlottehigginbotham3327]

We cant breath with out the trees! Epic! One planet! Who takes care of our planet?

[@nancypowers5901]

omg how could people with half a brain allow this. we do need to breathe displacing thousands of animals its a crying shame

[@albertbalazs9765]

remember the song in the year 2525 '' we taking everything this old earth can give but we aint put back nothing ,the good earth is made people expect more punishment

[@briellehunter7233]

Propagate these trees and plant several everywhere.

[@gives_bad_advice]

Better to take a wrecking ball to the Washington National Cathedral or Notre Dame than to cut down one centuries-old tree.

[@seanreid349]

The British are the pellet industry

[@andrewjensen8189]

I see alot of beetle kill left?

[@adrianmcvittie9127]

Mmmm:mmmmm I’m sad

[@osteopathichomeopathicking6154]

I saw the UK pellet burning power plants, burning so called renewable resources.... renewables are a crock. Nuclear would solve the immediate issue.

[@millionaire233]

I guess more ppl need to read the lorax to there kids.

[@gagegodard4402]

I recently started logging for a job in the northern interior of bc.Its amazing to see some of the old cut blocks re growing into usable timber. one old trooper I work with is now logging the same block as he did when he was 15,The size of the trees are significantly smaller now. But still goes to show the sustainable of it of modern logging

[@iamnotevenanumber3312]

How can it be sustainable to remove old-growth? As you discovered yourself, it's not like old-growth anymore. I suggest you look up the word "sustainable" in the dictionary. If you know what a dictionary is?

[@penguinfromantartica]

The mono-crop tree farms are not real forests. The temperate rainforest of Western Red Cedars is endangered. Once gone they are gone forever.

[@asiatownsend830]

Obviously you don’t know about old growth mycology, canopy soil or habitat loss that is destroyed when you cut a primary forest

[@tnbrfller]

As long as this planet has 8 billion people on it, using forest products, "sustainable logging" is a myth.

[@firstpersonforestry3762]

Talk about some mis-information! Nice title... I have worked many years on the planning side of the operation. I have plenty of videos from helicopters that show endless amounts of old growth forests. Don't let someone's OPINION lead you down the fake news trail. Do some homework for yourself.

[@tnbrfller]

Mis-information indeed. I worked in Forestry since 1976 from the tip of Vancouver Island, to the Alberta border in Helicopters, Crew boats, planes and pick ups, and I can't think of anywhere iv'e been that could be described as "endless".

[@dougpeck1006]

There incredible

[@sunnycriti9809]

Native Indians didnot cause this but Europeans who came to live in Canada ? first they destroyed their own forests in Europe, NOW ONLY 0.2 PROCENT IS LEFT

[@jollyjokress3852]

Shame on BC!! The nation shall go down in history as evil destroyer.

[@photoMorg]

Evil!

[@nancypowers5901]

depressing for sure amidst climate crisis as well. i hope they keep hell hot nature destruction

[@jasonw2128]

Aaron Gunn has another perspective. Maybe you need to watch the other side: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHfPiKxvgdx3psU

[@dannykibbe6613]

add some carbon tax ,every thing will be ok

[@adrianmcvittie9127]

And guess don’t be racist and that’s nothing to do with thisJust telling you that

[@seansmyth6974]

You are misrepresenting the data. 23% of BC's forest is classified as a working forest. This means 77% of BC's forest you cannot obtain a logging permit for. There is no shortage of old-growth trees in BC. As for harvesting old-growth for wood pellets? Wood pellet harvesting only happens in the BC interior. Not in the coastal rainforest. It would make zero business sense to turn a high-value old-growth tree into wood pellets. This video is produced by people who know nothing about the forestry industry.

[@gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819]

Yes alpine forest Einstein

[@seansmyth6974]

@@gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819 wrong again. The great bear rain forest is protected. Sea level forest to 7,000’.

[@gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819]

well swamp and marsh some lovely forest mostly sub alpine well that is what my eyes see and maps etc

[@seansmyth6974]

@@gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819 swamp and marsh? In the great bear rain forest? No. I have been there many times. This is the problem. People who spend their working lives in the remote sections of bc are confused by the whole argument. There is no shortage of old growth in bc. I am someone who goes into the forest before it gets cut. I will retire before we get close to running out.

[@gregorypatriciaandjiyajais8819]

@@seansmyth6974 wrong again Sean Some nice mid alpine well Sean nice debating with you

[@stevet8121]

The reason they make pellets is because those trees are often too rotten to make lumber. If you make lumber the carbon is sequestered in the lumber. Then plant new trees and let those trees absorb more CO2. An old growth tree that is in decline is not taking in much CO2. Put some old growth trees in parks for people to see and photograph and harvest the rest so new trees can begin the cycle again.

[@treemanclint2883]

What a big crock of BS. The protected areas have a higher percentage than that and there's still thousands of hectors that no one has done anything with and probably won't.

[@canadianintheend]

Makes me sick that they have to clear cut all our trees in Canada, I see it in Ontario too. Just leave them alone!

[@watershedbarbie9685]

"Progressive government?? Dream on.

[@isness1814]

😭

[@ryanb7792]

The vegan tree lovers be like...

[@jon6322]

Good burn it to the grou d dont cut wood

[@osoyoosforever9643]

This guy is a crackpot and he needs to fact check his facts. Don't be duped folks, more than half of BCs forests are "old growth" and will never be touched. Every image in this video can be shown as positive or negative depending on the story you want to tell. Never mind the images of harvesting, perhaps look at his kitchen and notice how much it is comprised of wood products. For example, that ceiling is made from old growth yellow cedar or redcedar, highly prized eco-friendly products derived from old growth forests. If he is against this then why is he living the lie? Or, perhaps consider the alternative, using metal or plastic products. Or perhaps living in a tent somewhere. Consider the small percentage of forests that are farmed in these images as an agricultural crop if you will. Come back in 10 years and see for yourself. It's okay to embrace forestry, the forests are renewable, have been since the last ice age, and provide eco-friendly products as well as well-paying jobs and lots of benefits.

[@isaiahm6451]

cut em all down

[@zachadolphe3633]

So in the title you say 1% of old growth forest left, yet in the video you say old growth is 1% of the land mass. This is inconsistent and in afraid you guys spreading misinformation here.

[@Islandstonr]

Lol are you seriously arguing about a few percent?… Either way it will never be close to what we had BECAUSE ITS ALL GONE.

[@zachadolphe3633]

@@Islandstonr It's a huge difference. One can mean we lost about 20% of old growth and the other implies we have lost 99%.

[@ernstschafer6092]

then buy da wood from scoialist kgb buddy putin

[@artszabo1015]

Sequester?? Really? A tree sequestering carbon? Now, why would anybody think he is spewing shit? People go off to college just to learn to talk stupid shit so they at least 'sound' smart.

[@T3H455F4C3]

Why would anybody pay to talk stupid shit when they could do it for free. Am I right Art? You know whats up.

[@artszabo1015]

@@T3H455F4C3 You are correct. They go off to college and spend thousands of dollars on a worthless education. When they get out they are just as stupid as they were when they went in, but they are in debt that they will probably never pay for the rest of their worthless lives. They come out talking like fools in order to conceal the shame of the horrible waste of time and money. They just love to use Latin, but invariably they use it wrong hoping we are too stupid to notice. Sequestered is a Latin word meaning to give something to a custodian, not even close to the way he used it, or to the way anybody uses it. Nothing but a fool rambling on and on about how he 'feels' about trees. He probably doesn't know that any tree will eventually die on its own, then it will rot away back into the dirt. When it does it will release the same amount of "greenhouse gases" that it would if you burned it. Therefore burning wood for whatever purpose is logically "carbon neutral". 95% of the trees harvested in America are farmed just like corn. They are harvested and replanted and as the cycle goes round harvested and replanted again. This is for both paper and lumber. This goes nearly the same for hardwoods that are harvested for furniture. We have way more forests today than we did 150 years ago and in 50 years we will probably have more than today. They are feely weely snivvely assed cry baby liars. Ahhh, now I feel somewhat better. Art

[@jeffkoopman1224]

What a bunch of bullshit, 1% left remaining. Lol, you'd make a good car salesman...

[@pritim2009]

ok this is the deal .. will share and thumbup ..but only if.. will edit full screen faces out of my 85" tv ...else will not

[@brettb9194]

there is no ecological reason to protect "old growth" a 350 year old forest is not significantly different from a 150 year old forest - in fact there are good reasons to cut it down, extract the value of the timbers and veneer and store that carbon (as building materials, musical instruments, furniture) for many decades there is no significant increase in biodiversity for temperate rainforest by leaving old growth to die, fall down and rot - as all trees do - in fact there is a decrease because biodiversity is more related to disruption than steady state (the exception may be decay microbes and fungi that would increase in a senescent forest) we have two strange partners in this "stop the logging" endeavor, perhaps one is funding the other I don't know - on one hand we have new age mysticism with fantastical beliefs ranging from animism to neopagan to anthropomorphism on the other we have imperialists - witness the inclusion of interviews and petitions by the Order of Canada, the direct propaganda arm of the monarchy... when the Normans conquered England in 1066 they created the Royal Forests upon which are based our national and provincial parks complete with wardens and rangers: originally the Royal Forests also had their own courts, which meted out punishments including mutilation and death we should abolish the Order of Canada at the same time we abolish national and provincial parks: a beautiful forest is one in a constant state of change (natural) with freshly logged, reforested and mature stands - if the mature forest is 200 years old we should log 1/200th per year with no exceptions - that way we get maximum environmental, economic and cultural value the idea that some section of forest should be left to die and rot because some fairy child or master of the hounds thinks so is pure nonsense

[@Gruntle12]

You’ve either never seen old growth or you can only see the forest for the $$$$$$.

[@T3H455F4C3]

Yes. Expend a bunch of carbon to store the carbon.

[@gives_bad_advice]

Is it possible that a forest can be valued for something other than what we can cash it in for? I mean, it's not like you guys haven't had your share of land to raze and sell. Do you need 100% of it?

[@ericsantaella3287]

Nah they r cool asf and a link to the past, why destroy them?

[@randymaylowski2485]

That's why God created the first bunch of trees millions of years ago during and after the dinosaurs. Not only that why God created trees thousands of years after the ice glance. But what do I expect people don't have respect when it comes with trees these days. But that's my opinion i guess..