Mongolia-Wisdom of Mongolian Bow Makers

[@alfredlee1677]

What's really incredible is you see people standing at the end of the targets to score. That shows the confidence they have that the archers are skilled enough not to hit them

[@Xener09]

What I find most incredible about this is how they have maintained their culture so well in this modern era. I often wish my childhood was spent learning more hands on activities like archery. To these people it's a way of life, it's also an excellent discipline for the children.

[@rush194tify]

if your culture was about being the most badass horse archers in the world you'd celebrate it every day too :P

[@strippingwelsh1]

I´m pretty sure there are thousands of mongolians that never shot a bow ;-)

[@namelol1033]

@@strippingwelsh1 true. the ppl that actually do archery in mongolia are probably only 1% of the population or even less. even i have never held a bow before and only started doing it 4 months ago

[@Susikohmelo]

This is not their original heritage. What they practice is an amalgamation of modern target archery and late chinese archery. The bows they use are very recent qing dynasty manchu bows, their own bows did not look or shoot like this. I could go on for several hours about the differences but here are some examples just to show that I'm not trying to make all this up. Their construction method is a modern approach to composite bows and the designs are very crude by historical standards. For example the tips in this video are directly attached to the limb and only use one kind of wood - often bows of this type would use a triple joint with 2 types of wood to save weight and the ones that don't still at the very least have horn reinforcements at the very tips as the area with the hole for the string is fragile. Using a triple joint you can put heavy durable wood in the critical area of stress and lighter wood in the areas that aren't experiencing as much force to save weight and make the bow faster. This is why these modern bows have such massive overengineered thick tips whereas historical ones were quite thin despite their great length. Ironically the antique bow they display around 3:30 is one of their real own bows. It superficially looks similar but is quite different in a few key areas. In the background you can see the shape of a typical real mongolian bow, notice how the tips aren't pointing forwards very much at all? The tips themselves are also much longer. When strung, the tips point backwards and the string does not touch the back of the bow at all which is why there aren't any string bridges ("string bridges" are the part of the modern mongolian bow where the string touches the back of the tips. It looks like a tall bridge or a ladder). There are several historical mongolian designs but the most common one is a medium size, medium power with a focus on low maintenance so that the troops can constantly be on the move. Technical term would be non contact reflex bow with long static tips What they're doing is modern target archery with a thumb. They stand straight, they close one of their eyes, they even do the unthinkable and put the arrow on the left side instead of the right. Even the clothes they wear don't originate from mongolia! These deel are clones of manchu clothes their clothing did not look like this until only recently. This is coming from someone who really loves asiatic archery, I'm trying to practice it as a career and I want to see archery become popular once again but it does sadden me a that this is the form it has taken yet people do not even know it.

[@Hemingway-t3b]

@@Susikohmelowell I am surprised. I am a bow maker in korea, and everything you said is correct 100% where did you learned these knowledge?

[@erikaushamburg8279]

Man they know how to build some decent composit bows with only natural materials. Its mindblowing what people already had achieved thousands of years ago...

[@joshhayne]

Erik aus Hamburg ...do you mean composite bow? ...a compound bows have cams for gearing the draw weight, composite bows are made from a composite of different materials eg sinew, wood and glue etc. just sayin :)

[@erikaushamburg8279]

@@joshhayne yes composit bow

[@YuriIdrisov]

Yeah, quite literally - mind blowing! At least back then... :-))))

[@mike011able]

The weapon that allowed various steppe empires to wreak havoc across Europe and Asia. Simply amazing.

[@lorettacaputo6997]

What a wonderful examination of the history of archery. From my earliest days, the magic and beauty of the bent stick and string as a means of casting our influence over a distance has drawn my respect and admiration. The flight of a well cast arrow and its landing will always be a symbol of the mind and body working in unison.

[@rsimko]

This is fantastic. Respect for keeping the culture alive.

[@karls5474]

Nice documentary. It is so cool to see the elderly and very young enjoying archery together, especially in their colorful costumes

[@FriendChicken]

*Lord Sakai Left the Group*

[@Jo.he._]

Bruh

[@brittanyfell9005]

Captured the art and culture perfectly. Well done!. Very well done..

[@draven3838]

One of my most favorite bows to shoot

[@imperiodotiro8628]

BELA ARTE 🖒😁🖒

[@alexanderwingeskog758]

The sinew glue process, looks and feels like today's fiberglass process. Amazing stuff. Made a loot of bows a kid (from the age of 6-14). And it seems like the oldest bow ever found (intact, that is definitely a bow with an age of 8000 years?) is just about 300 km from where I live... Cool! I wonder the evolution of it though, it had to be like spear, atlatl then bow I guess...

[@Lost_Hwasal]

A biocomposite bow will outperform a fibreglass bow. But yes the whole idea of laminates its the same between modern bows and biocomposites.

[@LeonardoDotto]

El mundo mongol tiene historia arquera, ademas linda gente Los felicito, desde el otro lado del mundo argentina un abrazo a esa pueblo ❤

[@maruismeiring2966]

Captured the art and culture perfectly. Well done!

[@huyvlam]

great documentary. i'm curious how do they manage to keep the arrow so still while having it on the left side of the bow. the thumb draw often causes the arrow to move left and hard to stay still.

[@shooterxchannel8102]

Yes. I am wondering the same thing. Someone who know. Do let us know. Thanks

[@adriaanvandenberg5013]

It must be the way they hold the string with the thumbing, if you lightly twist the string the arrow gets pushed into the bow, the other way would be canting the bow but the archers hold the bow straight

[@MegaDavyk]

They are using the thumb draw underneath and clear of the arrow knock so they are not torquing the arrow to the left with their fingers. But if they had the arrow on the right side of the bow with a slight rotation tension in the left wrist the bow would twist slightly when fired reducing arm slap and reducing the archers paradox. The arrow on the right side of the bow is better for shooting from a horse which the Mongols were famous for, I am surprised they do not do this.

[@alibekbek9643]

@@MegaDavyk they can't shoot with this style from the 🐎, Mongolian horse archers put arrow on the right side.may be it comes from olimpic archer and some history finding of the thumb ring.

[@aslof1069]

@@MegaDavyk Mongols of the 13th century fired arrows from the right side of the bow only when they are riding a horse. If not, they loosed their arrow from the left just like Europeans but using thumb technique (to improve accuracy of foot archers or when dismounted). It is crucial culture and cannot be broken because of ancestral knowledge of Mongols.

[@kkooloo5781]

Many Thanks for your overview.Unique and Excellent !

[@philoso377]

What you saw in this video is an imitation to traditional Asian archery or Mongolia archery, made for the sake of this video. The details tell tale it is so. Judging from the arrow location at the moment of launch.

[@thegamechanger7157]

The two thing that conquer the world

[@HistoricalWeapons]

I am trying to buy a heavy Mongolian bow from you guys. I current shoot 140lbs@32 inches. Trying to break Mark Stretton's 200lb guiness world record with a composite bow (can be modern materials)

[@alexyatsyuk70]

I have grozer composite bow hungarian short 60#.300€

[@HistoricalWeapons]

@@alexyatsyuk70 sorry I need a 200lb bow right now

[@HighlandMacGreggor]

Hey man, I left a comment on one of your vids, asking if you had experience with the bowyer featured in this vid. I've done research and tracked him down. This is his FB page, handled by his staff: facebook.com/TumurkhuuBatmunkh/ I haven't got my bows yet (they look v promising however), but the customer service was awesome. Check out my comment (made on this video) for more info.

[@HistoricalWeapons]

@@HighlandMacGreggor no, why specifically him? is he a authentic horn bowyer

[@pagodastone]

Very cool, thank you.

[@tengribows]

At 3:30 is real mongolian bow from empire era 13-14 century. Not like modern bows used in naadam. Look at the diferences.

[@tengribows]

@Toxophilus indomitus Im trying that kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYCTlH2chNtrqsU

[@alibekbek9643]

@Toxophilus indomitus in my opinion ancient Mongolian bow looks more like crim tatar and mugal (Mogal timur), and the way they shoot with ring is pity.

[@jugdertemuujin4014]

Hey man this is not on horse back and people shooting for fun and just for holiday completion.

[@eddypuentes6155]

Mongolia 🇲🇳 is a country not just great for the hospitality but the rich culture and tradition 😊. I tend to like more Mongolia 🇲🇳 than China 🇨🇳. I like the fact that every single thing to make these magnificent bows is 100% natural materials and no synthetic glues were used in the making of such bows 🏹 😊. I'm in awe at their vast knowledge of weaponry using just 100% organic materials 😲. I tend to like Mongolia 🇲🇳 more than China 🇨🇳. China is very overrated 🥱. Koreans make amazing bows as well 😎.

[@Dewabarasunderan]

Why are they shooting the arrow from the left side?

[@Alfer2601]

when horseriding, the arrow doesn't bounce but keeps stable

[@warriorsportsuk]

Hi Please can you tell me how I contact the bow maker in this video and also Mr Khurelbaatar? (Master of archery sports) Сайн байна уу. Би энэ видеонд нум үйлдвэрлэгч болон ноён Хүрэлбаатартай хэрхэн холбоо барьж байгаагаа надад хэлж өгөөч? (Байт харвааны спортын мастер) Sain baina uu. Bi ene vidyeond num üildverlegch bolon noyon Khürelbaatartai kherkhen kholboo barij baigaagaa nadad khelj ögööch? (Bait kharvaany sportyn mastyer)

[@HighlandMacGreggor]

Hey. If you're still interested, the main bowyer featured in this video is Tumurkhuu Batmunkh. They do business right on their Facebook page, ran by staff. Send them a message; they're friendly and helpful. facebook.com/TumurkhuuBatmunkh/

[@attilanemeth5172]

Beutiful tradition

[@loadedsunnygum4240]

is the pot with the glue put in the pot with the water?

[@josemauriciomarchioretto8233]

Thank you , is magic archery love os techinic

[@birdandcatlover5597]

I got to try a mongolian style bow a couple weeks ago. i dont have much practice in archery, but i know the mongolian bow was much more comfortable (even though i was shooting mediterainian style, and from the wrong side of the bow)

[@gaborrunyo4321]

Wonderful tradition

[@garychynne1377]

good

[@Sheepdog1314]

thank you very much. Great information ...

[@matthewsandoval8628]

It's Kool that any one can participate

[@Lee-qp6gf]

Very well done.

[@bobdoodle6527]

Where can I buy one 50lbs draw weight at 28 inches draw length, its cost and shipping here in San Diego, California, USA.

[@rifraf276]

Look at alibow and AF archery

[@HighlandMacGreggor]

facebook.com/TumurkhuuBatmunkh/ This is the bowyer's FB page. If you want more info, check out my comment on this video. As of April 27th, my bow (Hunnu) model was 380 USD. Shipping to Massachusetts was 115$.

[@ummonk]

@@HighlandMacGreggor Thanks man, I'll hit him up! That's an amazing price.

[@HighlandMacGreggor]

If anyone is interested in the bows shown in this doc, visit the bowyer's FB page and send a message to their staff: facebook.com/TumurkhuuBatmunkh/ The bows themselves are surprisingly inexpensive. That said, shipping is v expensive. They don't take PayPal. They use wire transfer, or MoneyGram afaik. If you want a 13th century/Genghis Khan era bow, ask about the 'Hunnu' bow. Afaik their other bows are based off of 17th century design. These bows--like many traditional/laminated bows--require a different level of care: Keep your bow in a non-humid environment, store it unstrung and on it's side(if you don't do this the bow will warp over time, just view it as a living thing). Do not leave the bow unstrung for more than a year(it could flip the other way). Do not expose it to excess heat (the glue could melt). The draw weight of the bow can and will be affected by temperature... When it's cold, it's harder to pull, when it's hot, easier to pull. I don't reccomend shooting the bow below 41 fahrenheit (5 celsius)

[@tomaszjaschke631]

super good made film. thank you so much!!! best regards:)

[@puriritupinea2520]

Would be nice to be able to read the translation into English, someone or something has ruined the viewing for me by overlaying phonetic translation over what was already there.

[@brazy702seang6]

I want a Mongol bow now

[@reddevilparatrooper]

The Mongols became the masters of mobile warfare. Archers mounted on horses became effective engaging the enemy using speed and maneuverability. Their adversaries using traditional infantry at the time armed with spears and shields by the thousands even supported by archers and slingers who are thoroughly trained and cohesively combined into a fighting force were no match for the mobile Mongol empire's mobile horse archers. Reason is the Mongols have taken combined arms strategy faster at a higher level faster than the Greeks under Alexander and the Roman Legions after using superior infantry tactics to gain ground and defeat an enemy. The Mongols were successful in using speed by using their cavalry archers to change the timing in combat to their advantage. Mongol commanders can change their approach into combat thus shaping the fight. With overwhelming multiprong approaches using speed and firepower it will and cause confusion to the enemy forces thus causing them to move into unfavorable ground then to be defeated, flanked, and slaughtered. Giving the Mongol infantry and allies less fight to crush them on the flanks. A flanking movement on an enemy will cause them to compress giving the opposing forces a gap to breach their lines and get into their rear to break up cohesion with other units to their right or left. The Romans for centuries have done this in their paraphrase "Break them to their front and put the sword up their ass!". The Mongols have done better using their mobile firepower to create a breach which the enemy cannot recover from and sweep both their flanks using their infantry to crush them causing confusion into their ranks and command. The Mongol forces have used strategy and speed to reduce time in combat and exploit opportunities which presents itself and use the initiative by individual commanders and soldiers to win a battle. Their key was flexibility in local and unit command thus confusing the enemy. The Mongols had the key thing going for them which is outlined in the modern 5 paragraph operations order's bottom line. That is the "Commander's Intent". Take the objective and keep it and do your part of the mission. Contingency plans if should the enemy foil your present plans to support adjacent units included into your attack. They include retrograde, defense, and counterattack. I am sure they did detail planning and anticipate courses of action should those emergencies arise.

[@shanek6582]

I wonder how those bows compare to an Osage self bow? They talk them up but they look like they’re slow with tons of hand shock.

[@Xener09]

They seem worse cause of all the slow motion shots, also many of the arrows used in this video are HUGE in comparison to what you'd hunt with. They're weighted blunt arrows that fly slower, I'm assuming for safety and so they can re-use the practice arrows a lot before they splinter or break.

[@shanek6582]

J X makes sense

[@bobdoodle6527]

Why are they drawing the arrow at the wrong side of the bow?

[@mistersuperjackass]

Mongols have always been doing it this way to ensure maximum arounds and speed of launches. It DOES INDEED require skills hence mongol conquered the world

[@GimbalLocksOnly]

No such thing as the wrong side of the bow.

[@bobdoodle6527]

@@GimbalLocksOnly well if you’re right handed you cannot draw a bow which is for left hand and vice versa so there’s a such a thing for right side except if you r using horse bow where you can put your arrows either side of the bow

[@GimbalLocksOnly]

@@bobdoodle6527 I know of the existence of right or left hand only bows. Still, no such thing as wrong side of the bow. Wrong bow? Definitely.

[@kummer45]

These guys have eyes that can see long distances. Not only they have fine Archers that where trained since they gain consciousness. People can't imagine how dangerous are a swarm of Archers moving in wild horses so fast while they have eagle eye accuracy firing those arrows. They literally decimate armies in no time. These are moving tanks with the accuracy of a sniper piled up together in a swarm of speeding horses.

[@jung.k]

Thumbs up

[@diabolicalartificer]

Interesting grip, and few arrows on RHS of bow....DA

[@depressedfox6218]

The "hook" of the arrow? Isn't it a nock? Narration does need a little work.. and segmenting the different steps of making the bow is a little confusing.. otherwise this is a good vid

[@bobdoodle6527]

Where to buy one and how much plus shipping for a 50 lbs, draw weight and 28 inches draw length to National City. California, USA?

[@FirstLast-di5ot]

Lancaster archery

[@Lost_Hwasal]

A real biocomposite bow will cost you at least a thousand, i think grozer archery makes some.

[@ummonk]

facebook.com/TumurkhuuBatmunkh/ I just ordered from him, total came out to under $500 with shipping to California. I'll do a video review once I have the bow and heavy enough arrows.

[@peterfarkas8497]

Hová silányodott le az egész íjász hagyományuk.Elfelejtettek mindent

[@doctim111]

Their archery targets are reminiscent of breaching the Great Wall.

[@lumri2002]

Perhaps the materials and method of making these weapons are now different from original ones during their ancient empire.

[@richardquick826]

i been trying for 30 years to build HORSEBOW,, I GIVE UP

[@armortech1379]

they have alot of underwater houses and restaurants in Dubai

[@janmuylllaert4266]

glue makingk?

[@andreystepanov7597]

❤

[@marcusfridh8489]

Also it i thinkk that it is bad that they use the long manchustyle bows instead of the shorter horsebows that was the weapon of djingis khan

[@danieljones9463]

The shorter bows may make a come back as mounted archery is resurrected in Mongolia. There is plenty of room for both styles of Archery.

[@jiguursathome]

Such an organic weapon

[@strangeperson700]

"Isik for your thoughts?" Vulcan saying.

[@미숫가루찌개]

We need translate korean

[@rybiizhir]

Кажется монгольский лук и соревнования с ним связанные не должны быть такими лайтовыми. Сложилось ощущение что горожане приперлись кумыса нахаляву попить. Ожидал что-то типа стендовой стрельбы, стрельбы на скаку, силы пробития связки шкур. Измельчал монгол, печально.

[@jugdertemuujin4014]

О да ты что у вас где отмечают стрерлбы на скаку? Скажи мне где? А так монгольский ребята охотится с луком и стрелой и на скаку

[@Zoltan1474]

Üdv Magyarból

[@marcusfridh8489]

i dont think the narrator know anything at all about archery. he is using all the wrong terms. arrowbody? Hook? feathers? when it is called arrowshaft, arrownock and fletchings

[@davaadorjochirkhuyag4476]

He just used a literal translation using Mongolian words literally to English.

[@enkhzayazundui1063]

I agree. That is the problem.

[@franciscoedmar1051]

🇧🇷🤗😃❤️🏹👍❤️

[@Naynayongod]

THE TRADITIONAL DRESS THE ARCHERY CULTURE THE BHUDDISM THE LOOK SAME LIKE US .. WE ALSO WEAR SAME TYPE OF TRADITIONAL DRESS.....Mongolian culture

[@thegamechanger7157]

Back then we can't do shit about this..we are lucky we are island

[@Jaspal_singh_Archary]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💓🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@nopbitakazama8669]

explosive arrow

[@maximusmeridio1970]

Che lamento! Che tene mal e panza?

[@SCCIT-jq6jh]

In 1224 the bow used shot half a kilometre, I don't know if it scientifically possible?. Using every science, bow, arrow and everything we know today try and duplicate this!. Sometimes it's better to believe than to know truth and be disappointed!.

[@lordgokay4113]

1550 ottoman tozkoparan iskender:826 m.

[@joramnikam4063]

Real man wear abibas .............

[@Dulya_with_poppy]

эти люди настолько забыли, как стрелять из лука, что даже проволочную полочку колхозят, печальное зрелище

[@dennislindqvist8443]

This language sounds more like Dutch than Russian or the Chinese languages I have heard. It would be an interesting country to visit. I don't share their admiration for Ghengis Khan, though. He was as psychpathic or worse than Hitler.

[@FinnisJaeger]

By that you could say that all historical conquerors were psychpathic or worse than Hitler.

[@charlescarabott7692]

If Genghis Khan is worse or better then Hitler is very debatable. However Genghis lived in an age where murdering all the inhabitants of a conqured enemy land was the rule not the exception only Genghis Khan was more effecient then most others of his time while Hitler lived in much more civilized 20th century where murdering millions of people is definitly not normal.

[@enkhzayazundui1063]

If don’t like Chinggis Khaan, don’t go to Mongolia. You won’t like there. Don’t waste your time.

[@marcusfridh8489]

and it is also sad to see that they westernized the drawstyle by shootning the arrow from the knuckleside of the bowhand, instead of from the thumbside of the bowhand wich is the traditional style when shootning with the thumbdraw

[@laplace1234]

They've lost their traditional skill I think...

[@penggilingan236]

@@laplace1234 Due to Manchu Qing Dinasty who forbid Mongolian from any archery activity.

[@NJLev]

I don’t think it’s sad that people have different ways of doing things. It’s also interesting to someone such as myself who is completely new to archery to see how different cultures handled similar weapons. That being said, when I do get my hands on a bow and learn to shoot, I think I will be starting with the eastern draw. Makes more sense to me.

[@laplace1234]

@@NJLev yes, it's not sad for people to shoot in different ways. But it is sad, if they call this was their tradition way to shoot.

[@theponkster]

Amazing how everyone is an expert on Mongolian culture - they do not have a right and wrong way to draw - they do the way they like and because of that they have mixed and matched styles. Thumb draw mixed with so called "mediteranian" draw has allways gone on - it is a very western mindset to think of archery as either left or right side draw .

[@ChristianGeske-yn3mr]

Mongolian sounds like russianised Korean lol

[@zoedivision9660]

Korean sounds like Chinesed Japanese

[@bilguunbyambajav6252]

lol

[@charlescarabott7692]

English sounds like frenchised german lol

[@jugdertemuujin4014]

Chinese sound like u let loose metallic objects down step way

[@charlescarabott7692]

@@jugdertemuujin4014 are you a relative of Genghis Kahn?

[@劉啟華-v3o]

，

[@picklewiickle.1583]

small people lack the strength to pull a war bow.

[@charlescarabott7692]

Yet these "small" people managed to build the biggest empire ever using their "small" bows

[@HighlandMacGreggor]

Look it up bro. The old Mongolian horse archers were pulling massive poundage.

[@enkhzayazundui1063]

People never were big as today. Hope you know that. What you saying is stupid thing I ever heard.

[@nisurasamfitness115]

These are "war bows" and they are significantly better than a English Longbow. These bows pull 100-140lbs draw weight. The English Longbow loses in all aspects to asiatic horn bows, in terms of Cast, the world record for traditional bows is set by one of these asiatic bows shooting under 900 metres, in terms of speed and penetration a 80lb horn bow will penetrate and shoot better than a 100+ LB english longbow. European archery is extremely Overhyped and lackluster, a group of your "war bow" shooters will get massacred by a group of these "Small men" from a distance further than your "war bow" can reach.