What Made the Samurai Bow So Deadly?

[@A861967]

I have been an Archer for the last 25 years, competed in international events and reached the ranking of GMB in Olympic recurve, and longbow. Always have been fascinated by the Japanese bows and would love to shoot one, perhaps a visit to Japan 😊❤ the spiritual connection is indeed something that develops over the years.

[@oneshotme]

And I'm sure it'd take a few years to master it being it's shot completely different than the recurve and long bow that you're use to shooting

[@saltyseadawg4768]

Quite likely there's a Kyudo Dojo somewhere around your parts...

[@richardgraham7055]

Edward O. Wilson: “We have palaeolithic brains, we have medieval institutions and space-age technologies. That is a really dangerous combination and we are seeing that.” Georges Clemenceau (1841 - 1929): "War is a series of catastrophes that results in a victory." Thomas Mann (1875 - 1955): "War is a cowardly escape from the problems of peace." There's no difference as the intent is to kill with an empty mind. This is hardly surprising. An empty mind is necessary to kill with the mind of a psychopath. An empty mind is necessary top serve an otherwise useless hereditary lord's fatuous ego, lust for power and acclaim. Once again religion, inculding Buddhism, is shown to be the tool of the rich, the arrogance of power, the lust for stupid violence in their mindless armies. Dante Alighieri: “Consider your origins: you were not made to live as brutes, but to follow virtue and knowledge.” Thomas Paine (1737 - 1809): “All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, [Zen Buddhist] or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.” Farley Mowat: ”We are under the gross misconception that we are a good species going somewhere important, and that at the last minute we will correct our errors and God will smile on us. It is delusion.” Voltaire: “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”

[@bobmiller7502]

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[@samuraijackoff5354]

Here is a tip, always use a glove. Yumi bows use a thumb grip to draw. They aren't too far off from how other bows but the quirks from modern techniques might trip you up.

[@musicmaniac32]

Now I finally understand why anime heroes and villains mutually respect their opponents' self-introductions.

[@JohananStarGiver]

30y of daily traning :D atleast you can say your name :D I would respect any hard made man before duel

[@Fittafella27]

Man japenese craftsmanship is awesome to watch

[@P-Likan]

The longbow used in this video had less than half the typical draw weight used by trained medieval archers on the battlefields. It was more representative of a hunting longbow, rather than a war bow. It was a very interesting documentary though, thank you very much for sharing.

[@jamieduke5659]

My thoughts exactly. They did however address that in the explanation. Saying they were testing efficiency of design so equal draw weights were used. A 170 lb long bow would have massacred the gel but the results of the tests signify that a 170 lbs yumi would be faster that a 170lbs longbow but sadly being boo a traditional yumi with that draw is unlikely if not impossible. But a longbow with reflex reflex and asymmetrical handle made of yew sounds very interesting!

[@P-Likan]

@@jamieduke5659 Indeed good point, thank you for your comment. Yes from what I have read, Yumi bows rarely exceeded 100 pounds of draw weight, especially those used on horse. Some English longbowmen shooting with such powerful war longbows with over 150-160 pounds of draw weight over an extended period of time often employed a technique using all the weight of their bodies. Having said that, I believe that the Yumi bow is a fascinating design which provides impressive accuracy and stability. It certainly met the needs of the Japanese Bushis/Samurais in battle very well as we know from historical sources and studies that the majority of casualties in battles during the Sengoku Jidai period were from arrows.

[@michaelterrell5061]

No one in this comment section is correct about the Yumi. The draw weight used for the Yumi in the video may well have been 50-60 pounds, but that’s because those are the recreational bows used by Japanese kyudo practitioners. Kyudo is essentially modern meditative archery and they make use of bows which are completely separate from those that would have been used in Kyujutsu(on the battlefield) during war time, which had draw weights of well up to 200 pounds(albeit rarely).

[@P-Likan]

@@michaelterrell5061 What is the source for the 200 pounds though? I've never read anything like that, in fact much the opposite. The average man size in Japan during Sengoku Jidai is 1.55meters. Explain me how you can draw 200 pounds on a horse when the majority of (much) taller English longbowmen could "only" pull 160-170lb on foot on average ( which requires a considerable strength). It is said by some historians that some could until 200lb but that was certainly very rare. Mongol horse archers which were among the most powerful horsemen on the planet used bows that were on average around 150-160lb max for the heaviest ones used by strongest elite warriors.

[@michaelterrell5061]

⁠@@P-LikanEnglish longbows could get up to about 180. As for them being much taller that’s a bit of an exaggeration, the average Japanese man was 5’4, the average Englishman 5’5-5’6. Anyway if you’ve heard differently it’s because you’re conflating kyudo bows with historical bows, which isn’t an accurate thing to do. Here’s a nice article that goes into depth on it, and there’s a video that essentially proves my point that is linked as well. gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/07/yumi-japanese-bow.html?m=1

[@orlandogivens4779]

What happened to the Mongolian Deadly Bow? No doubt about the Japanese Bow and The English Bow, but the Mongolian horseback Bow was a force to be reckoned with...

[@brittking3990]

Nobody told you?? Oh dear…you may need to sit down. The last mongorillan bow discovered was outside of Denver Colorado. It seems the Godamn Mongolians were having problems selling abroad…so they were used to breakdown my shitty walls.

[@dukesaru]

No doubt. They became one of the largest empires in history, conquering civilizations left and right, using just horses, bows, and arrows

[@swere1240]

the mongals were so deadly because they were very good at shooting off there horses. i dont think japan did that as much. basically all the mongal warriors could fire arrow's rapidly from there horse's. and this video is a not accurate at all. a horsebow of the same weight will shoot faster im pretty sure just by the way there built. also speed isnt everything the lighter the arrow the less momentum it will have and the less likely it will penetrate. heavy arrow's carry through targets with alot more force. with my compound bow i shoot 200 grain fixed broadheads with a 100 grain insert at the front. yeah such a heavy arrow loses 50 60 fps but it will also blast straight through a shoulder bone and a lighter broadhead and arrow combo will not do that. and if you dont get a full pass through when hunting deer there more likely gonna run for hundreds of yards of miles even and i dont like wounding deer and not finding them ive done it acouple times and its not a good feeling because most people wouldnt think so but i respect and love deer so much and most hunter's do. if it werent for hunter's there wouldnt be any conservation really because all the licences and stuff go towards that at least in my state it does.

[@Jurgir09]

Mongolian bow is crap. It's only good because it's supposed to be used while on horseback, and with proper nomad's combat tactics

[@willynillylive]

It's called the Asiatic bow I prefer it over the long bow It is much more powerful

[@russparker1647]

I have built about 80 bows, some years ago, but the yumi has to be the most difficult bow ever to build well. Almost every other style of bow is balanced by tillering, or scraping, balancing the belly of each limb to achieve symmetry. The yumi is assembled with the outside of bamboo on the back and belly, no tillering possible without compromising the belly strength. Add to that the asymmetrical design, boggles my mind on how to achieve it well, if at all. I managed to build a few all bamboo bows, nodes intact, but symmetrical design. Very nice bows, but a Yumi is way, way beyond me.

[@BH-rx3ue]

point of disagreement #1: a 50lb draw weight would be stupidly light for a long bow #2: it's been established that the longbow was likely shot from both sides of the bow limb and its simply preference of the archer

[@Heresjonnyagain]

It’s stupidly light for a medieval Japanese bow too, why only mention this for the long bow?

[@BH-rx3ue]

@@Heresjonnyagain coz i dont know the historic weights of japanese bows so i speak about the things i do know about. have you got a source for draw weights so i can study?

[@BH-rx3ue]

@@Heresjonnyagain dont worry, did some digging. the numbers seem to be around 70-160ish which is fair enough

[@Heresjonnyagain]

@@BH-rx3ue worth a read for any further interest! gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/07/yumi-japanese-bow.html

[@samuraijackoff5354]

Modern Yumi are pretty light, it's not made for war. It's mostly a spiritual sport now. Older Yumis go from 116 lbs to 200 lbs.

[@JohannesIbel]

As a kyudoka I find the the exaggerated rhetoric, the worn out stereotypes and the whole idea of comparing bows in this way rather puerile. Just one point: If one is to test the potential of a yumi, proper shooting technique is paramount. An arrow speed of 34 metres per second is embarrassingly low and simply due to a blatant lack of technique. Any of the Japanese students shown would have done better. We measured our arrow speeds systematically a while ago and averaged well above 50m/s (164 feet / second), even with lighter bows of about 18kg. With a starting point and “experts” like these, no meaningful results can be expected. Nice pictures, though.

[@philipx4525]

I doubt the bow used in this video for speed test is not powerful enough for the arrows it shoots out.

[@JohannesIbel]

@@philipx4525the “test” is weirdly unspecific about arrow weight. “Heavier because longer” would only be plausible if the material were the same, which it was not. The slow motion scenes show a blatant lack of basic Japanese shooting technique (and in the “bow against sword” scene there’s no discernible technique at all). There are more details that show sheer incompetence: It has long been established that ballistic gel is not a suitable medium for testing arrows and the notion of the honourable duel in Japanese battles is fictitious. They simply don’t know what they’re doing. But even these points aside, the whole idea to compare weapons from different cultures and geographies, not to elucidate their specific properties, but to find “the ultimate one” is fruitless and puerile.

[@ycplum7062]

The speed is low because they chose to use low/moderate draw weight bows, aprox 23 kg. Actual warbows would likely be twice that draw weight and the arrow speed similarly faster.

[@JohannesIbel]

@@ycplum7062 with the Japanese shooting styles (there’s more than one), arrow speed is highly dependent on the subtle and energetic technique of both hands. For an experienced kyudoka one look is enough to know that these criteria were not fulfilled.

[@csboatworks1362]

Long bowmen were drawing much higher draw weights than this. They trained since childhood.

[@dw9192]

Awesome Documentary

[@Afro408]

i always thought that the Yumi was asymmetrical to facilitate it's use while kneeling and on horseback and not necessarily to give the arrow more speed.

[@scotthewitt258]

That IS why it is asymmetrical. Does the video say something different? I fell asleep. The samurai {Those Who Serve} were originally the Emperor's "tax collectors" and law enforcers. They were mounted. Thus, the lower arm of the bow is shorter than the upper arm, to facilitate use from horseback. Does the video say or imply that it was meant to affect arrow speed? Any such benefit would be COINCIDENTAL to WHY it was asymmetrical.....

[@SilverforceX]

@@scotthewitt258 The Yumi design is not novel, it's predecessor before Samurai era also had the same bow shape. Because it's a composite recurve bow, it allowed faster string speed for a given draw weight, leading to higher velocity for a given arrow weight. There are Yumi samples over 1500 years old that had same shape, well before horse archery was common in Japan, and bows were foot weapons.

[@elee9056]

@@SilverforceXjapanese composite bow….? you sure?

[@jaketheripper7385]

Both, actually. It also makes it easier to shoot and reduces stress on the user by decreasing hand shock due to the grip position being located in a perfect node. There's little to no detectable vibration making it more comfortable to use while increasing accuracy. In any case the asymmetrical design predates mounted archery in Japan by centuries, so it's arguable that the technique may have been more so adapted to the tool than the design of the tool was adapted to the technique.

[@Stargazer80able]

Bamboo is not wood. It is a type of grass. A great material for building a vast variety of things and structures.

[@metricstormtrooper]

It's not a tree either

[@Stargazer80able]

@@metricstormtrooper Trees are wood. Grass is not.

[@frontenac5083]

Absolutely correct.

[@tomtimor9789]

Wood (xylem) is a structural material made of cellulose fibers grown by many plants, not only trees as you say it. define "tree". Is a palm a tree ? Or fern ? Both of them have xylem as support material.

[@neildorado8735]

Is bamboo a tree? No it's a GRASS 😂😂😂😂

[@SilverforceX]

Fyi, the comparison here is a 50 pound Yumi vs Longbow, same draw weight for accurate comparison. In war times, the Longbows were typically 120 pounds, some were 150 pounds. Likewise in Samurai era, the WAR Yumi, had 3 layer of composite materials, and required 3 men to string, past surviving samples from temples & museums have been tested, and they have draw weights of 120 to 150 pounds. Surprisingly similar to English War Longbows. Modern Yumi are for archery practice & ceremonial, they are typically only 30 pounds draw weight, this is why there's a common myth that Japanese Yumi was weak. Historical records show it was not weak, it was the main killer in the field of battle.

[@SilverforceX]

And to add, when the Mongols invaded Japan, they were met with archers vs archers and horse archers vs horse archers, and their own records showed the Samurai put up a fierce fight. We know the Mongol composite bows were very capable weapons in battle.

[@mcready]

What was the draw weight of the longbow tested? Tods workshop has done various longbow tests - the archer in those tests does not easily draw his longbow....

[@dennisnguyen8105]

It was mentioned is the beginning of the video. They made sure both bows have the same draw weight. Also, I'm sure these are not war bows used in the past. You can be sure that war bows used in actual combats would have higher draw weights than the ones used here.

[@gregwein1]

Both bows were 23kg/50lb draw weight. Both tested at 34 mps/112fps/122kph/76mph. So bows were the same. Arrow weight, release method, draw method, and arrow point weight differed.

[@mcready]

@@gregwein1 is a 50lb long bow a long bow? What is the point of comparing it to a weak longbow?

[@TheMorred]

@@mcreadyIt is certainly a longbow, but na a war bow.

[@AaronLuna-lj4jp]

@@mcreadyEnglish Warbows generally have draw weights over 120-200 pounds, with 1000+ grain heavy arrows. A 50 pound longbow with a heavy arrow and sharp broadhead will kill any animal in North America.

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

Significant comparable video between English long Bow and Japan Samurai cultures Bow ....thank you (Hit history) channel for sharing 11:42

[@The_Cyber_Nomad]

The English long bow was 4-5x more powerful, and used to defeat armor, the Japanese bow was used against unarmored civilians, or conscripts.

[@a.m928]

How was it more powerful. What metroc are u using. Ehm the Yumi was used against armor as well. And by the 14th the longbow was essentially useless against plate armor. Useful only against the ligjtly armoured.

[@MyBodyIsReggie1]

@@The_Cyber_Nomad factually incorrect

[@R3TR0J4N]

unforutnately id disagree seeing the general opinion of the comment section.

[@GothamStatePolice]

I don't know the historical draw weights for the Yumi ( please put them below if you know ), but medieval English long bows had draw weights ranging 125 to 150 pounds. Some, up to 185 pounds. I have heard claims of 200 but I'm skeptical about those. My point is that while the Yumi is more powerful when both bows have the same draw weight, historically English bows were considerably heavier.

[@MrG77]

I do agree the Japanese craftsmanship on everything they do is second to none. But you cant down play how important and affective the English longbow was. It was hated by all who came against it. It can also peirce chainmail.🙏

[@gregwein1]

Really good points to bring up! No doubt the longbow was a HUGE factor in military effectiveness. I think that is why they compared the longbow to the Japanese bow - there weren’t any other bows that could compare, unless you got into the Turkish/Native American composite horn/ligament bows… The English longbow ‘clouds of arrows’ strategy was incomparable/unmatched/peerless in its effectiveness. It created a combined machine gun and artillery impact on the battlefield that no other technology could even approach, let alone neutralize.

[@MrG77]

@@gregwein1 yes Greg your right,could you imagine being an enemy trying to storm an English castle with longbow arrows raining down on you. Don't fancy it myself.👍

[@marc-antoinejean6428]

by experience, a bow WILL NOT penetrate a forged breast plate, even on a direct hit. There is a massive difference between a forged and hardened piece of armour an a flat sheet of mild steel. But in overall I really liked this documentary (O:

[@gregwein1]

Sorry, you are wrong, but glad you enjoyed the video. As they explained in the video, the style of arrow point made a huge difference in penetration. As armor got tougher, crossbows penetrated it. And how much penetration was needed? An arrow 1” deep meant you had trouble breathing, swinging a sword, or controlling your horse. Then came came crossbows (in Europe), and the lethality of arrows increased. Then muskets hit the battlefield, and armor was no longer effective at all. So arrows were effective to the end, despite steel/iron armor.

[@marc-antoinejean6428]

@@gregwein1 have you tried it ? With mild steel breast plate, hardened high carbon steel breast plate ? With both iron and spring steel arrow heads ? We made ours, with a 1400 pounds cranequin crossbow. And Todd's Workshop also made a serie with Toby Capwell in which there are going to the same conclusions.

[@willynillylive]

I can put an arrow through a stop sign how is that any different than plate armor

[@marc-antoinejean6428]

@@willynillylive stop signs are mostly made of aluminum 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@willynillylive]

Not where I live they are old steel stop sign

[@mattheweskender7781]

The English Longbow is also heralded as masterpiece 0:43

[@norbertocarlosagustinkushi1916]

English Longbow IS a marsterpiece indeed.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧❤️💪💪💪

[@bjung8858]

i don't know, the Native American bow from East Coast are probably better.

[@gregwein1]

@@bjung8858Interesting! Why the East Coast? The Penobscot compound now in New England? I think the Plains and Southwest compound bows were better… horn backing, and tendons on the belly… Increases in compression and tension effects… BOOM!! Speed and power beyond imagination!

[@bjung8858]

@@gregwein1 At present, I wouldn't mind having a Comanche bow. But, the Sudbury bow looks very nice. At worse, I might have to construct a laminate version of it because the plum wood cracks when drying. I decided to make a chessboard with it.

[@indiangum4691]

​@@norbertocarlosagustinkushi1916it is not. Only because of guns the brits were able to conquered.

[@PETERLUMACTOD-gb8tl]

every Sunday practice... that's i need!!!

[@fredford7642]

Thank you for an exceptionally educational video. This video has opened the door of inquiry to this amazing form of archery. Very much different than English archery.

[@mrmacedon]

Trying to compare or see which one is "better" is pointless, each of the bows served its respective culture and was made for a specific purpose

[@gregwein1]

Wow! What a ridiculous, ignorant comment… Weapons and armor were developed as parallel technologies. When one improved, the other had to improve. But in this video, they compared bows from 2 cultures, on the armor of 2 cultures. Additionally, they compared basic ballistic values. So all apples and oranges were tested… and you were found lacking… did you actually watch the whole video?

[@R3TR0J4N]

exactly

[@P-Likan]

Actually, they were made exactly for the same purpose.. to hit stationary or moving targets at range when it matters... what specific purpose did you have in mind? mounted archery? The bow design showed in this video ( for Yabusame ) was not entirely suited for it as they could only shoot from one side of the horse with it, as opposed to the Mongol/Turkic bow designs which were entirely suited for mounted archery (able to shoot from both sides quickly and able to perform the so called Parthian shot from the rear).

[@katherinecollins4685]

Well presented

[@kyudodetmold]

0:41 3:23 left handed kyudo? 3:45 Showkyudo... 47:38 false aiming - look the arrow is left to the mato - false technique?

[@LUNATIC-ORIGIN]

Methods of increasing the range by increasing the size of the bow, such as the British or Japanese longbows, cause the bow to vibrate irregularly, reducing long-distance accuracy and penetration. After the Warring States Period, Japanese bows are not at the state-of-the-art "composite bow" stage, but they are also not primitive "Self(Simple) bows", and at least they can be said to have reached the highest level among "built bows". Referring to Japanese bows as "composite bows(合成弓)" in English is an error resulting from translation, and Japanese bows are "Built bows(複合弓)".

[@oneshotme]

It would have been great to know what each Samurai was saying to each other!!!!!!

[@PeaceLoveHonor]

It would have not made sense to you even if translated; it was merely a list of ancestry to show rank and importance.

[@gregwein1]

“I’m Bill, son of Jim, son of Frank. From Franklin township, working for the Smith family in the Johnson principality. I am 4th ranked in Joseph style archery, and the 3rd best in my school. I can draw a 50 lb. bow, and if you stand still, I’ll kill you at 200 yds. If you can match that, come forward, or everyone here will know you are a coward!” Something like that… There are records of what certain samurai said, but that’s the gist of it…

[@sleeperyjeemtoybox]

Remember watching a film by Lindybeige (youtuber) he once interviewed professional competition archers and was struck by their (almost) deformed draw hand, its also been shown that Medieval English bowmen shared similar deformities (calcification on shoulders hands etc.), i wonder given the skill needed to wield a sword meant Japanese archers didn't practice to a disfiguring degree ?.

[@Thickcurves]

We fairly tested these bows by taking away the Longbows single advantage. Oh... and this short fat man will be shooting it, lol. Is this a joke? Also for power it's not just speed. It's speed and weight of the arrow, with tip for penetration. Katana which is beyond compare... almost had to shut it off right there. From surviving examples. The Yumi averaged 80-90 pound draw at it's peak. The longbow was 140-160. This is the most malformed and one sided documentary ever made. A Japanese archer couldn't have even drawn an English longbow all the way. Neither could you or myself for that matter.

[@eagle162]

@@Thickcurves a yumi could actually get that high draw weight, it was recognized as a powerful bow even outside Japan. "July 12, 2017 Wakyuu (和弓) - The Japanese Bow"

[@eagle162]

Japan has a stronger archery culture than most of Europe just like most countries in the East, if you look at the article I just left they also use high-power bows.

[@Thickcurves]

@@eagle162 Yeah I've read that, you posted it lower. It's all estimates and speculation. The Japanese Yumi didn't need to be over 80-90 pounds. There are no real examples at anything over 100 pound draw weight. There's no evidence of the changes to bodies of the warriors that happen when drawing that weight. The way the Japanese train and use the bow means there's zero chance any where above 100 pounds draw. The article claims 200 pound draw weight and it's literally BS. You can't point to a blog with no sources listed. The techniques. The history. The surviving examples... ALL SAY about 80-90 pound draw weight, whcih makes sense because that's about what they needed for their style of warfare. Look, I understand it's cool for some to look up to Japanese culture. That's fine, but you are wrong. The katana wasn't magic and the Yumi wasn't stronger than the English longbow.

[@eagle162]

​@@ThickcurvesI didn't even mention katana but if you want me to bring articles or threads about it no problem. I got no problem debunking myths like bad steel. It Clearly showed you a video where they measure a high-power yumi and even bring up it was recognized as a powerful bow outside Japan by other cultures that used or face other powerful bows, there's nothing about how they train or techniques that suggests Japan didn't use high-power bows, if you're talkin about kyudo that is not war archery.

[@toxolite]

Horses for courses, the English/Welsh longbow was a simply made artillery piece intended for foot soldier use, not a knights weapon. Having a bow draw weight of 80 to 160lbs, delivering heavy war arrows (two to three times the weight of modern hunting arrows) up to 300yds at a rate of 10 arrows a minute. When the archers' stock of arrows (typically 2 dozen) was exhausted he joined the rank of foot soldiers. Despite accuracy not being the ultimate requirement, when a youth was able to fell a squirrel at 100 paces he could enlist in the army, where the requirement became to deliver his arrows into a designated distant piece of ground over any terrain. Can you imagine advancing on foot to engage the enemy when flanked by up to 5,000 longbow archers delivering a steady (over 60,000 a minute) hail of war arrows which are far from spent by the time they reach you, as the French forces faced at Agincourt. Realistically, you need to survive a minutes at least in the kill zone before engaging the enemy. Consequently, it is understandable that the availability of suitable longbow staves (Yew preferred) and archery practice became a matter for royal decree and charter in 16th Century England. Needless to say, I could not even pass the enlistment entry requirement with my modern recurve today, let alone hit the "Cloth of Gold" at 240yds (as King Henry VIII did with12 arrows in 1520) with my longbow, no matter how hard I try. Incidentally one József Mónusa using a traditional English longbow shot a flight optimised arrow over 450 yds in 2017.

[@markusknorr6497]

The draw weight of your tested bows has nothing to do with a real warbow. The Mary rose bows are around 160 lbs of draw weight. How much is a Japanese war bow. In my opinion it does not make for a historic relevant comparison if you shoot weak target bows that have nothing to do with their historic counterparts.

[@procrastinator41]

Both stand-off weapons, but with different purposes and ranges. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Infantry with Rifles and hand mortars. 🇯🇵 cavalry with pistols or carbines. It’s an apples to oranges comparison.

[@gregwein1]

Yes and no… the two styles were used in different very ways, but they tried to compare apples to apples in this video. The technology of the bows were caee re fully compared. But how they were used in the field were very different. And there is NO way to compare those - individual as l targets vs. sending clouds of arrows. You can’t compare them, and that is really what differentiates the 2 styles…

[@michaelstone3069]

Art and ritual are both in everything there It's beautiful If you have a chance to go you should

[@righty-o3585]

I think it was probably more about the skill of the archer, than the bow itself.

[@vanillathunder3024]

True…but a craftsman is only as good as his tools.

[@righty-o3585]

@@vanillathunder3024 not necessarily true . A master archer will still perform pretty well with a very average bow . Much better than average anyway .

[@FrankEgyed]

Excellent documentary, and it warms my heart that the old skills are being passed down the generations. But it is not fair to the English Longbow. It shows the arrow skidding sideways losing speed all the way to the target before the fletching finally brings the tail back in line. This means the arrow has the incorrect spine (stiffness) for that archer using that specific bow. Yes it is that particular. A "50Lb bow" is measured at 28 inches of draw, and every inch over or under 28" is ~ 3Lb over/under whatever the bow is rated at. So if the archer only has a 27" draw, it's only a ~47Lb bow. If the arrow was properly spined (for that archer using that specific bow) it would leave the string oscillating (like a fish swimming) perfectly around the bow. All arrows which are heavier at the front than the rear, bend when force is applied to the tail. All arrows launched from fingers have some sideways force applied to the tail as the bow string leaves the fingertips which makes the arrow bend sideways in the middle. For a right hand archer the tail is deflected left, which makes the arrow bend in the middle towards the right, around the bow, then the middle of the arrow oscillates back the other way to the left flicking the tail to the right and around the bow. A properly spined arrow does not touch the bow but does one left/right oscillation in perfect synchronisation around it. The tail first deflects left towards the bow and looks like it's going to hit (while the middle is bending to the right around the bow), then at the last moment the tail flicks right and also misses the bow. The arrow in this video is deflecting off the bow, losing speed in the friction, and more importantly, flying sideways all the way to the target, and striking it slightly sideways which then has a HUGE impact (pun intended) on the penetration. If you think I'm being fastidious, look up "archer's paradox".

[@gregwein1]

Wow! Holy crap! OMG! I bow to you, your knowledge, and your ability to explain the extraordinarily complex forces compelled by a bow onto an arrow. I had to read your comment 3x’s before I felt I’d ‘got’ it. Wow! Thank you!! Not sure if I should stop at adulation, or move on to blandishment… Archer’s paradox - never thought about it minimizing friction when properly matching bow weight to arrow spine. I always figured when you test-fire, you know. But examining the physics helps one to understand high FOC (front of center) arrow physics. And as you know, the more physics you understand, the better your arrow selection and archery performance become. Ah sħǐť - you freaking rock, dude! Thanks for expanding my viewpoint in such an understandable way… 😎

[@KwispyKweme]

Love how the revolver guy at the beginning of the video bump fires accidentally. Lucky that cylinder wasn't loaded.

[@robertbrandywine]

What is a bump fire?

[@gunnerbhb50]

I love how the Japanese archer hats almost look like coyboy hats, bamboo isn't a tree it's a grass and the individual is a stock of bamboo not a tree

[@robertbrandywine]

Then you would enjoy the TV series "Kingdom" set in Korea. Great costumery.

[@brentwalker8596]

Another term for a bamboo tree is a "culm".

[@fadingjedi]

Interesting how they downplay the fact that the English long bow is actually accurate, effective, and deadly. The English would have developed some other way of killing if the Longbow didn't live up to expectations. They are equal weapons with slightly different uses, tactics, and cultural influences.

[@lanikozmat5746]

And the english war bow started from 80 pounds upwards

[@sykesm01]

This I what I was thinking, it is a flawed test, the weights of arrows and power of bows are not contemporary, because they are the same here it is not how they would have performed at the time

[@bujinsakura]

English long bow will go through a car door, I have seen it happen. I own a Japanese bow, and it would nto go half way through it

[@michaelterrell5061]

​@@bujinsakuraThen you own a very poor quality Japanese longbow. There is a reason that the Mongoms complimented Japanese bowmanship.

[@umaryu]

@michaelterrell5061 your reply shows me you need to go and study mongol and Japanese bows. There is a huge difference and power. When you have done that come back for a chat

[@bosse641]

Very interesting and well made docu.

[@mitchellnightingale1263]

7:06 *incredibly it shoots its arrows at 34 meters per second too...* "dude i forgot the formula can i look at your paper?" "Yeah but dont copy, they'll know" "Yeah i wont"

[@TheBizziniss]

I doubt the samurai would want to withstand a barrage of longbow arrows. Just saying, the Japanese bow may be better overall but being on the business end of the English longbow will kill you just the same. While the lamellar type armor the Japanese used is pretty protective, it’s less so than the steel plate of the French knight and they still suffered greatly from the English longbow.

[@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis]

A recurve and a straight bow of the same poundage would alwayw make the recurve better. A real test would be using equivalent poundage.

[@fileleutheros2577]

japan was a poor place in ancient times, so expensive recurves are out of the question. Having good quality well designed longbows is impressive enough.

[@DozenDeuce]

I love how they artificially handicapped the English long bow. War bows regularly had draw weights of 75-100kg, 3x-4x the Yumi

[@georgealin7472]

You are confusing the measurement units

[@DozenDeuce]

@@georgealin7472 Incorrect. This has nothing to do with measuring units and everything to do with making the Japanese bow appear superior when it definitely is not

[@georgealin7472]

@@DozenDeuce I think you are missing the point... The English longbow wasn't 3-4x more powerful. 40-60 lbs would only be half of the 80-110 lbs of the English longbow. Now when it comes to numbers, they definitely had more powerful bows on both sides, but those were the exception. The point is that due to the design, a yumi bow with a draw weight of 110 lbs (which totally is a thing) would be superior to a longbow of the same draw weight.

[@DozenDeuce]

@@georgealin7472 Actually, YOU’RE missing the point because YOU confused the measuring units. I didn’t say 75-100 POUND draw weight, I said 75-100 KILO (165-220 lbs) draw weight. So yes, these Yumi bows are 1/4 the draw weight. The English Long Bow’s superior design allows it to be drawn in the strongest range of motion. Warbows are drawn by holding the string still, while shoving the bow forward. A Yumi bow would max out around 1/2 the draw weight of the English bow, so the shooter can fully stretch out both arms. Because of their power, English bows also need much heavier arrows. But why? Why make them with these insane draw weights & logs for arrows? Because to have even a chance of defeating the FAR superior steel plate armor in the West, that’s how much kinetic energy you needed focused on the tip of a sleek, hardened steel, armor-piercing Bodkin arrowhead

[@georgealin7472]

@@DozenDeuce English longbow's superior design? Stop talking nonsense, I can tell you never even smelled a real bow in your life, forget about using one

[@chrismair8161]

They built a recurve Bow. Two become one and the force of the arrow is Huge!

[@boandersson9134]

Eng longbows were used in other war tactician comparing to the japanese bows. Also its differs in cultural attitude in making and how to use them.

[@lightbox617]

I wish you could do some work on the Steppes, Hun , Russ, Mongolian wood and since recurved bows meant fo horse riders

[@AlvinToda-xu2wp]

The yumi wasnt the only weapon design for war on horse back. These elite fighters also used spears and sword when they ran out of arrows. The spears were needed for others on horse back, but if they got too close on foot, longer swords called tachi were used - somewhat like European sabers or rapiers. Shorter and lighter ones called katana were carried by the samurai and elites as part of public dress. They werent useful on horseback.

[@PetrolPaladin]

What in the Deadliest Warrior is this? The editing and narration is so hokey. It's like a children's history picture book in film form.

[@gregwein1]

Most folks aren’t as smart as you think you are. So the story is simplified, edited down to make an easily understandable video. They covered hundreds of years of history, 2 cultures of technology, multiple ways of measuring performance, cultural history, various training regimes, mythology, spirituality, and various styles of practice in less than 60 minutes. You want Cliff Notes? Go take kyudo lessons. Tell us how it goes…

[@PetrolPaladin]

Most folks are smarter than you think they are. The narration style is patronizing. You can make information accessible without speaking down to your audience.@@gregwein1

[@2serveand2protect]

One question if I may! > Is it true that up until the mid/late XIXth century, the Japanese did not use screws to put together their firearms - they (basically from what I've read) assembled them like they were a sort "lego-blocks" - ONLY AT TIMES - reinforcing them with small "pins" that looked quite similar to rivets? PS. I've read that in a book describing the History of portable firearms (muskets, carabines, guns, pistols, etc). It was only during the Meiji period (when Japan started an extremely fast modernisation) that they adopted metal bolts and screws (...apparently...) ...?...

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks for posting

[@imhendriyantonasution2511]

because bow is the first and ancient weapon of samurai before spear and sword use so intense later period

[@GerhardMondaga-qn8wi]

Wow very nice😲👍

[@andrewwhite4335]

Though many long bows were made cheaply from a single stave, the better crafted bows coupled a hard durable wood with a softer elastic wood for flexibility. The result was a remarkably efficient weapon far more accurate and deadly than its Japanese recurve equivalent, which had less draw weight, less range and less killing power.

[@eagle162]

That is not true, the Japanese bow likely have more of all three.

[@gregwein1]

No British longbows were composite. The ‘practice every Sunday’ longbow was always (+\- 3%) a single yew stave. Cheaper and easier to make, and easier to shape for an even draw. Composite bows of mixed materials were very common in the middle- and far-East, and North America! But not in England…

[@indiangum4691]

Lol another bUtthurt Brits who don't wanna accept that the Japanese, Mongolian and even Korean bows were more powerful. Also don't compare your long bows with composite bows

[@indiangum4691]

No wonder you were never known for bows. It was the invention of guns which gave them the advantage. Other than that by long bows you wouldn't have conquered even Bangladesh😂😂

[@andrewwhite4335]

@@indiangum4691 Crecy ? Agincourt ? This was a discussion about bows. If you want to air your hatred of all things British, you've chosen the wrong debate.

[@jareth7456]

What made it deadly...was the heavy arrow with a longer power stroke .....the longer it's accelerated the more energy it receives from the bow...the weight of the arrow gave it greater momentum making it harder to stop

[@simonsmith9363]

Someone who made this programme needs to read Dr Ed Ashby's work and learn about the difference between kinetic energy in flight and the momentum through the target after impact, also ballistic gel has proven to be an unsound medium in which to test arrow penetration as it acts nothing like an animal carcass in practise.

[@otis8983]

100% agree I shoot asiatic recurves and my Turkish and tatars bow outperform my longbow with the same weight arrows. On an elk I shot last year I went clean through the shoulder and back out the hip . Complete pass through with single bevel broadhead at 550 grains shot from a Turkish bow. 60lbs at 28

[@mikehunt9884]

that samurai bow seems to be really technical

[@gregwein1]

Yes and no… A lot of the style factors of shooting, e.g., shouting, advancing, leg position, and mind-set are all facets of Japanese archery. But if you look at the basics of shooting a Japanese bow, I could make a list: - Pull with thumb draw - push with bow arm AND pull with arrow arm - Twist bow on release - Put arrows in quiver, oriented for proper arrow orientation to string These points are the same in Japanese, Chinese, Turkish and Hungarian archery… That is what you need to practice, to shoot a Japanese bow. BUT it is just the first few hours of learning Japanese STYLE archery. The mechanics, and the style, are 2 separate factors/styles/understandings/techniques…

[@angryzombie8088]

Shooting an arrow from a long, asymmetrical, recurve composite bow like Yumi while mounted is obviously hard. Most horse archer use a short bow for a reason. Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord is an awesome game.

[@TempleToursRedwood]

Who is going to carry on this wonderful art?

[@jboy1181]

This document was very well made but one thing I find funny when they compare the history of each bow saying that the yumi was primarily used by samurai where as the longbow was only used by the peasant class they must have forgotten about the rank of Ashigaru common peasant food soldiers of the samurai forces there main weapon alongside the yari spear was the yumi bow

[@TempleToursRedwood]

Splendid..a master..❤

[@trevtall1094]

While I respect the Japanese bow and culture the comparisons this makes vs the english longbow is pretty bad imo. Fact is we have no surviving medieval English longbows so we have no idea if they were recurved at the tip or not after the concept moved westward with the crusades and mongols. Partly due to late industrialization, Japanese medieval history was retained to a greater degree.

[@MTJ_Africa]

You need to add the Ottoman or Saracen bow to this comparison.

[@ExelArts]

Probably the same reason why every bow is deadly

[@cjwharton1]

30:06 MY NAME!!! IS GYOUBU MASATAKA ONIWA!!! AS I BREATHE!!! YOU WILL NOT PASS THE CASTLE GATE!!!

[@matthewwalker5430]

interesting, but I'm immediately suspicious when it says "the arrow is longer, and therefore heavier" ... since when is that a thing? Why could you not have just weighed the arrows and shown us which is heavier? Thickness comes into play, as well as the materials used to manufacture, so just saying "it's longer" doesn't really mean anything. They may well be heavier, but by not simply weighing the actual arrows and showing everyone it makes it feel deceptive.

[@larrychicco1062]

I think you have trust issues. 😅 I've wooden arrors and bamboo, different vibe but broadly the same.

[@mcspiffington]

@@larrychicco1062 yes but are the bamboo arrows LIGHTER than the solidwood longbow arrows? if the same length and diameter

[@timj5031]

never heard of an longbowman in europe shooting an 50 lbs bow in a battle.. I also dont believe samurai did that.. Things do change quite alot with drawweight

[@tylrpearson3165]

Yeah notice the difference in fletching at 9:43. Lol. Wonder why it Flys straighter lol

[@michaelbevan1081]

Enjoyed this though the test itself…

[@andrewcusick3285]

Total respect for the skill of these archers and their bows, but I have to say the attempt to compare with the long bow was a bit silly - the point being that they limited the war bow they tested to the same draw weight as a war bow. If there's one thing we know about medieval long bows is they had draw weight in some cases more than triple (50- 80kg VS, 25KG )that of the bow they tested. So they decided that the Samurai bow was better than the long bow, but only after removing the major advantage to be had from using a long bow. A bit like deciding I can run faster than Hussain Bolt but only after having slowed him down! To be honest it's a bit silly to boil this down to which is better. Different tools for different jobs, is a hammer better than a screwdriver? - depends what you want to do with it. What I do know, is in my hands I'd probably have about an equal chance of impaling my foot. "But you need to have super strength to draw a war bow" I hear you cry ... true.... the point is both bows need an expert and we should admire the dedication and skill of both.

[@bearpham565]

On horseback nothing beat the Mongol Bow you can shoot while attack and while retreating

[@tyronekim3506]

I'm inclined to agree with you. However, I would like to see some historical evidence. Shorter bow is more maneuverable and can be carried easily than a longer bow.

[@lukaslorenc]

@@tyronekim3506 i think the historical evidence is the scale of mongolian empire

[@tyronekim3506]

​@lukaslorenc Maybe so, however, the Mongols' attempt to conquer the Japanese failed.

[@SilverforceX]

@@tyronekim3506 They failed because of 2 typhoons wiping out their invasion force, not because they failed in combat. However, the combat that they did do vs Samurai, their written records show they had respect for the Samurai, as the fighting was fiercely matched.

[@mikegould6590]

I would place a Mongol war bow up against either of these in a hot second.

[@frontenac5083]

Lol.

[@nimblehuman]

The Great Khan approves this message 🏹

[@antonpressing]

The pathetic tone in documentaries is out of place. All of these war tools had their evolution and specific function - from the "light" cavalry bow to the heavy Roman crossbow - the scorpian. AND by the way, the samuria swords were not equal to the roman - frankish swords. Their evolution took a 1000 yrs - and Europe had the better steel.

[@bjung8858]

I'd take a Korean bow

[@Brainbaskit]

I don't know how to do archery so I would bow out

[@mirandahotspring4019]

23kg (50lb)n is a bit light for a longbow, the ones recovered from the Mary Rose were twice that, 90 - 110lbs (40 - 50kg) While the yumi was only used by Samurai the English longbow was used by everyone. Imagine a French knight facing 7000 archers at Agincourt. I have yet to see a yumi win against a conventional bow in any bare bow archery competition.

[@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis]

50lb can be used by someone who has little training and body strength. For a few looses at least. My recurve that I use not as often as I would like is 85lb and even that is ridiculously light compared to an English warbow.

[@mirandahotspring4019]

@@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis Some English longbows were up to 180 lbs. They have found skeletons of archers with noticeably larger arm bones on one side of their body, indicating years of practice with progressively heavier bows.

[@eagle162]

Problem with the Mary Rose is those bows are not medieval.yumi reach up to 180 Ibs or higher,yumi also wasn't only use by the samurai. July 12, 2017 Wakyuu (和弓) - The Japanese Bow

[@tomtimor9789]

What makes a bow deadly ? Any bow ? Simple. The archer. Why is so many different types of bows ? Different methods of fighting and different available materials. At the end is the man holding the bow, who kills, not the bow by itself.

[@Fotosynthesis858]

The Japanese have a tradition of perfecting everything they do 💯

[@seanfurley9768]

It would appear that everyone has forgotten the main component in this arsenal... A long bow capable of traversing the field of Azincourt? No, these riders relied on their dexterity and agility to outmaneuver their opponents... It rained that day... the field was muddy, but... I kept my promise and from this day onward

[@BaldBearded101]

English longbows weren’t owned by everybody, that’s crossbows. English longbows require so much training that not only must they start as young as possible, but their arm bones change from the stress and strain. Another elite weapon, like the Yumi.

[@mcspiffington]

are you daft or something? crossbows were significantly more expensive. longbows were extremely common, cheap, and built by anyone with a drawknife.

[@remlenomis]

23kg is about 50lbs. That's the draw weight of a hunting bow, not an English war bow, which started at around 100lbs but would have averaged 160lbs. I don't know how heavy Japanese warbows went, whether their construction method allowed such weights, or whether a thumb draw could hold such a weight (none of which information this documentary provides), but that's that's biggest difference between the contemporary Yumi and the historical English longbow. One's a toy, the other a mass produced weapon.

[@jacquelinetaylor8683]

Interesting.

[@MorkJones]

I'm gonna give up at "The Samurai sword is beyond compare".

[@harrybruijs2614]

It was not better or worse then the European ones, as is proven multiple times, only the way it was operated was different. Every topsword is made the same way with layered steal and different hardness at the core then at the cutting edge and every topsword is made with some kind of "magic" , it helps with his reputation. What also helps is rigorous quality control. Get rid of the bad ones and never let see a test on video where the sword brakes or bends.

[@Mupworp]

​@@harrybruijs2614'it' isn't a thing, they're taking about a katana while using inappropriate language for a history documentary.

[@harrybruijs2614]

@@Mupworphe top sword in mediëval Europe also wasn’t a thing. It was given a name and was revered.

[@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis]

You did the right thing bud, I've persevered to the end and they are talking about how revered the process is for making a Japanese bow and how it has to be made with the precise materials, well ANY good bow has to be. Plus they steadfastly refuse to mention the difference in poundage but the longbow looks like quite a low poundage.

[@xdclancer8847]

Poor you! Where did the katana touch you huh?

[@Libres279]

Cet arc est réputé pour être très encombrant malgré tout

[@athgowla687]

13:35 Let's be real, they could have shaped the hat in a cool way and still keep the hair out of the eyes. Somehow the guy or girl inventing this, thought the Samurai needed a ridiculous looking hat. Probably enjoyed knowing thousands of Samurai would wear this and look like fools (for their hat).

[@pranavshah1971]

Japanese arts r always been hyped

[@saiyanelite7919]

Bruv English longbows were the truth and one huge reason why they became a world superpower

[@jonathanlee5185]

Yes, and the whole point of a longbow is that it didn't power from a measly 23 kg of draw strength -- but two or three times that. It took decades of strength-building for a mature yeoman to acquire the musculature to draw a full longbow.

[@rayvanwayenburg998]

A super power in the Middle Ages? 😂

[@TheSamaell]

Nobody is going to mention that a yumi was around 40 pounds dw and the english longbow was as high as 180 making it almost impossible to use for a average joe BUT a lot more capable for distance and penetration ? Modern equivalents are a rifle and a dmr. Both guns but different applications against different targets ... not "better" but very different. This clip is just a mistification of the japanese art not an objective analysis.

[@eagle162]

The Japanese bow's DW could get to that and more, neither are using actual war bows. "July 12, 2017 Wakyuu (和弓) - The Japanese Bow"

[@htaymon9502]

0:28 ayooo bro needs to relax

[@sun_600]

Lol what did he say 💀

[@quinholzken7051]

In proef 4 Life

[@andreweden9405]

I'm curious: Why do all of these archer samurai seem to be wearing tachi instead of katana? Are they basically reenacting characters from a period that predates the period of the katana? I like tachi!

[@mreba-bh9lr]

Before Edo period (started around 1600s) main sword was tachi(simply longer katana) and during edo period katana's lenght was regulated by the law (katana's lenght must be 70.5cm ). If you watch accurate sengoku period movies you will see mostly tachis. edit: Also fighting on horseback requires longer sword so mounted archers would use tachi

[@gregwein1]

@@mreba-bh9lrWow! Great response, informed and intelligent! I didn’t know all that… Thanks for sharing!

[@theinqov]

Comparing a 40lb draw weight Samurai bow to a 40lb long bow is not a fair comparison of the weapon. Long bows weren't 40lb draw weight, they were 160lbs or more. It would be like comparing a truck without an engine to a bicycle and declaring a bicycle better than a truck.

[@rayvanwayenburg998]

All the Englishmen getting defensive about the longbow 😂😂😂

[@Fotosynthesis858]

So true lol. They like to think they’re far superior to everyone else lol

[@bibabutzemann5661]

Englishmen : make good points why the test isnt a good comparison. Soyboys : lol you are mad 🤣😂🤣😂

[@mcspiffington]

@@Fotosynthesis858 its nothing to do with superiority its fact. nothing matched the english warbow until mechanised arms and gunpowder came into play.

[@metricstormtrooper]

They wasted a perfectly good bucket there.

[@davidliddle9033]

The katana & wakazashi swords were the symbol of authority of the samurais; even bumping into a samurai accidentally could lead to that persons immediate execution. The samurai's soul was said to inhabit his sword, I don't think the sword was "secondary" to the bow.

[@mcspiffington]

thats what you get from these western channels that actually wank over japan. they are getting the 'sword was 2nd to the bow' from europe. your sword was if shit went REAL south.

[@TheArthurkan]

Discounting the mongol’s bow because their fleet sank during a storm, is like sport before black people can play

[@jonlannister345]

Of course in reality the Yumi would be around 100lbs draw weight while the longbow pushed 150-200lbs You'd probably see similar performance between the two with the same weight arrows at the historical draw weights, especially when you consider most longbows were slightly recurve, and technique varied between individuals

[@HistoricalWeapons]

the yumi is one of the worst in design for its purpose of horseback archery. It’s very limited but still relied in Japan due to their countries’ lack of horn and sinew😊

[@WiggaMachiavelli]

I would argue the opposite: that its efficacy despite such constraints demonstrates that it is an excellent design. The yumi was used for foot archery as well as equestrian archery. The shape, which reduces the neaed for compromise between power and maneouvrability, in a historical context affected by particular material constraints, is ingenious. Comparing weapons without appropriate context distorts any discussion because participants will rely chiefly on their own ideology and preconceptions in making evaluations. You ask a 40kg, 5ft tall Japanese kyudoka who has trained in a contemplative school what she thinks of an English longbow with draw weight as heavy as she is, and the answer might be 'the worst'. Give a primitive hunter-gatherer a modern compound bow and I expect he'll not have much use for it. Try a crossbow with windlass and pavise for equestrian nomads. Or listen to the opinion of a Chinese (correct me if I'm wrong) living in Canada whose hobby is to play with a whole lot of different weapons, including those in which he hasn't any formal training and in relation to which he has some but not much historical knowledge, and you'll get something informed by that experience and perspective, so probably not very useful if it relates to any weapon in which he has not specialised. All this is to say: your bowerbird approach is not a good basis for criticism. You need to assess weapons by reference to appropriate technique and context. The only meaningful measure of performance is who won battles against whom, and on that measure I think the yumi must rank pretty highly in Asia after all. Perhaps that sort of history is a factor in your view, too?

[@samuraijackoff5354]

Yumis have survived for centuries, even still used during the are of firearms reaching Japan. It was designed to penetrate or find it's way through armor and other fortification. You can ride a horse with it, you can cover being a wall and still have large enough impact.

[@rayvanwayenburg998]

Maybe you just aren’t good at using the Yumi?

[@HistoricalWeapons]

@@rayvanwayenburg998 seems like u haven’t used a composite short bow before

[@DanielaShiga]

The samurai were riding Japanese dosanko horses, not race retired thoroughbreds. Ogasawara san's horse is a bit smaller than the other's. That might have helped a lot! Less speed! More time to execute and aim. Every millisecond is important in yabusame.

[@jamieduke5659]

Several native tribes one being the hadatsa have used asymmetric bows not only Japan.

[@lorenblaine5275]

36:35 Ball tap.

[@makechange5452]

So, the Yumi arrow went roughly a foot into the gel aka 30cm, and the Long Bow went roughly 10 inches aka 25cm. The reason the Yumi went deeper is simple. It uses a longer arrow. We already know they travel at the same speed. Physics teaches us that if two objects are traveling at the speed and one of the objects is longer it will have a greater impact. If they have the same mass. Which from the look of them if they don't the Yumi arrow is heavier and that would also make it go deeper. Side note: both would go through any normal size human's thigh.

[@mcspiffington]

they should not have done. the english bow had its balls chopped off. bowmen from england often used bows rated at almost 200lbs. "matching draw weight" only harms the comparison. Where the fuck did you learn physics, the length of an arrow has nothing to do with penetration. force equals mass x acceleration. ie; diameter, weight and arrow tip are the significant factors.

[@regularguy8110]

Practice. Every tool gets better with practice.

[@earlshaner4441]

This is history

[@mrwest5552]

the pound rating ?

[@bashkillszombies]

What made it so deadly is it was used against unarmed peasants. What also made it so deadly, to it's user, was the fact that rifles were the norm in the rest of the world at the same time.

[@eagle162]

No just no.

[@tn1881]

Japanese arrows are powerful enough to pierce shields.Japanese bows are large and have strong stringing power. Because the shaft is filled with steel, the tip of the arrow is heavy, and the feathers are attached diagonally. Japanese arrows had a heavy mass and flew at high speed while rotating, so they could penetrate hard wooden shields and iron plates. In the experiment, a Japanese arrow could penetrate three 9mm thick pieces of wood, so a shield could not block it. For this reason, samurai armor was made of small iron plates stacked on top of each other. A 13th century painting depicts a Mongol soldier being shot dead by a Japanese arrow behind his shield. The 16th century Chinese general Qi Jiguang (1528-1588) wrote that Japanese bows were stronger than mainland bows. “Japanese arrows are heavy and bows are powerful. Those who were hit by their arrows were sure to be shot dead. They came up to us and shot arrows, and every time they shot they hit someone. The Chinese were afraid of it and did not know how to use this useful weapon. ”「故倭虏矢重弓劲，中之者必毙。彼近而始发，发必中人。乃华人徒畏之，而不知用其所长也」

[@altanbayar]

You know nothing about bows. They made some biast documentaries. They should have compared long bows with recurved bows. The long bow is a no match.

[@DD-jn1mp]

Well we know English warbows we’re reflexes as well and had varying draw weights. Not sure this was an accurate comparison