Mad Men - Peggy and the gynecologist (1x01)

[@sejahani]

the way every gynecologist treats you in my country, if you have premarital sex , it was so humiliating, I'll never forget that

[@lanaofficiel4042]

You must be from the Middle East. I'm too familiar with that world and I know that's how Doctors there treat single girls who want to have sex before marriage.

[@fairiegirlga]

This show in directly on target for the era it represents, it was truly a "man"s world" back then, and girls like Peggy got eatten up and spat out unless they were smart, and took care of business, and everyone smoked back then, didgusting in the exam room, can you believe that !!

[@jaymcmahon5073]

L

[@sadem1045]

I love that he just starts smoking in the exam room. From what my mom told me about her pediatrician I can tell the smoking part of the scene was very accurate.

[@monicabee]

yeah that was the reason i put the video up. it was so shocking the things doctors to say back then. if someone even tried that now, he'd get fired in a minute.

[@joiamed8544]

So crappy!

[@julieerin115]

10 years later she wouldn't have tolerated that gynecologist.

[@PioneerGrrrl]

He should be smacked

[@darbyheavey406]

No the physician would just put her on a powerful hormone that alters her endocrine function.

[@maddyk94]

i think it was kind of critical to the scene she be in this position, so to demonstrate just how vile and creepy this doctor was; and how he abused his power when he threatened to take her off the pill if she became too 'promiscuous' for his liking. setting the scene is everything

[@sheeplesheep9379]

how would he even know if she became too promiscuous ?

[@robinorlowski9045]

@@sheeplesheep9379 that's what I was thinking. the guys in the city weren't going to report back to him what was happening.

[@LadyLakeland]

This is a creepy doctor. But all the doctors were like this then. Joan even sent her to this doctor because he was more liberal about prescribing BC. I remember in 2007 i went to have a procedure done and i was 18 but when the doctor helped me off the table after this extremely painful procedure he said, something like "youll be okay little girl". I just remember "little girl" very clearly because at 18 i considered myself a woman doing something a lot of women have to do so as i drove home i couldnt get that comment out of my head. Now, I think he just didnt like to see such a young woman getting this procedure. That was my impression from what he said...and that was in 2007. Times have come a long way since this though. This is a disturbing conversation, and Joan considered him one of the better ones. Just goes to show how bad it was then. Those poor women. My grandmother....my mother 15 years later...😢 oh and my grandmother? Had to have a written note from her husband allowing her to get it after she already had given birth to 2 girls and a boy. This wasn't my grandfather's rule. He w a nted her to get it if she didnt want anymore children. She'd already gave him the prodigal son and two beautiful girls. this was the doctor's twisted rule. MEMPHIS, TN 1967.

[@anacrobat89]

I'd hard to believe how many posters here miss the whole point of this scene. This is a portrayal of a gynecologist visit in 1960, which is the year this show's first season is based on. The whole idea is that it was a man's world back then and it attempts to show you just how far we've come. Just about everything in this show is quite accurate to what it was like in the early 60's in the US. There's a reason it's won so many awards.

[@sitdowndogbreath]

How far are we from actually how far we have fallen

[@dannygjk]

@@sitdowndogbreath Depends on the persons point of view. There is always someone holier-than-thou.

[@RitaBaruah-s2h]

👇🏽

[@Faithfullfertilitytv]

Women can be offensive too. A female gyno told me one day I will find Mr. Right when I told her I was still a virgin in my 20’s. I could’ve gotten her fired.

[@ebonyruffles]

Don't turn into the town pump just to get your moneys worth. One of the best lines in the entire series, lol.

[@princesslulu5795]

ebonyruffles hahah. Interesting fact: $11 in 1960 was actually a lot of money. Adjusted for inflation $11 in 1960 had the same buying power as over $90

[@sitdowndogbreath]

I had the girlfriend New England she doesn't trust me taking her on the boat but she wanted me to nut inside her so every time we went on a date she used to pay $60 to get the Depo Provera shot so every time we have sex it will cost her $60 I told her get your money's worth let's do it everyday for the next 3 months she was stupid

[@palabrajot505]

The term was passed on from series to series, first on Northern Exposure, where it was picked up by David Chase, who used it on The Sopranos, where it was picked up by Matthew Weiner... It's like a hot potato of great TV lines.

[@drbonesshow1]

As the joke goes: If I wasn't a physics professor - I'd probably be a gynecologist.

[@briarjensen2123]

Ive been thinking about this scene for years

[@reptilezsweden]

All you who complains about the "smalltalk" being offensive and the smoking doctor and so on. Maybe you should take in mind that this series takes place in the early 60's. The doctors and the society in general was a bit different then. Considering a single woman who's getting birth control, I think this doctor is probably played as pretty nice.

[@dchartier1]

I agree one hundred percent. Dr. Emerson was just looking out for her.

[@MysonEggAndHisbrotherCheese]

He wasn't nice at all, still bossed her, judged her under the name of "warning" while he was perfectly ok single men having sex, living in 60's doesn't make you automalically asshole like him, he is just typical egoistic, sexist doctor who do what he want instead of only making his job without comments

[@paigemontague4022]

It's horrible to watch this. I'm so upset that some gynaecologists still treat their patients like this. He said she could only be on the pill under certain conditions and it is under his control, which is very untrue. Any woman who wants to be on the pill (or use any contraception) can go on it.

[@Egilhelmson]

> Any woman […] can go on it. Then? The Pill was still prescribed, not over-the-counter, back then. In fact, there were no single chemical prescriptions, as far as I remember. Those were later in the decade.

[@krystlemurphy8514]

@@Egilhelmson it’s still prescribed now

[@RedogOnyx]

OK, please feel free to Google about the class action lawsuit bought up against Bayer about Yaz. 27 women have died as a result of Yaz and many others have fallen very ill

[@Reticence9zen924]

Yaz is a disgusting pill.

[@sitdowndogbreath]

So is seasonique

[@xvoy2002]

Funny how the doctor is smoking. But oddly enough, i remember being ina doctors office in the 70s and the doctor was smoking while he was going over a report. Even at that time i thought "what's up with that?"

[@newbestofthis4422]

Hahaha I hope you're still alive.

[@4LO4LO]

Heather, some types of latex are naturally brown. They probably are clean gloves.

[@nampiirajudith]

Christ's this doctor😂

[@JosephSchneider26]

My f*ing god, the *scene* is creepy *to us* because we as 21st century people are watching it. For Peggy it was surely unpleasant, as every intimate examination is. Peggy was sent there by Joan because this doctor is more liberal than others. The doctor *is aware of that* and thus tries to protect his reputation. If all his patients went out there and smashed like crazy, people would call him a pimp or a "w**re doctor" or something. So no - he isn't really trying to control her individual life. He might wanna protect her from the obvious dangers of hyper-promiscuity that will probably never go away (like... being alone with a psychopath), but most of all he his drawing a line. He is liberal - but he doesn't support everything.

[@Vydio]

For the time this scene was probably accurate. Plenty of doctors wouldn't even give single girls contraceptive pills.

[@xvoy2002]

Interesting perspective on the world. Nice post.

[@Nicecatholicgirl]

I had my first pelvic when I was 16. It was so awful I didn't go again until I was 22 or 23 and the pain was so bad I couldn't work.

[@sheeplesheep9379]

it was probably the pap smear that caused the pain,, you can refuse those god awful pap smears,,,the doctors like to do the pap smears along with the pelvic exam,, you just have to say no pap smear,,,,the pelvic exam and the pap are 2 different things

[@princesslulu5795]

$11 in 1960 had the same buying power as $92.24 in 2018

[@somethingswicked]

I would have kicked his face in if he talked to me like that. He would've lost a few teeth at the strumpet line. This scene alone goes to prove how amazingly spot on Mad Men portrays the 1960s.

[@robinorlowski9045]

I would have clapped you doing that

[@misskrissxoxo]

I never seen this episode, i actually missed alot of the first season. but i can't believe he would say that to her, nowadays everyone teen girl is on the pill.

[@Faithfullfertilitytv]

Everyone teen girl? Education not contraception

[@gigimc]

omg -- don't you guys understand the scene/show? I *just* began watching it online this past Wed, and from the second he picked those gloves up, I knew they were trying to illustrate they've been used before & were probably soiled... the whole scene was to set to make us feel repulsed & put-off... duh? Peggy is, in an abstract way, us -- as is Don

[@sorenti]

lol you never noticed it takes place 50 years ago? the materials they could use back then were simply so different

[@RedogOnyx]

I like the fact I get minus ratings for this comment. I guess your doctor is "so awesome" and you can't wait to go all the time

[@CarlyMK95]

Ahh the 50's/60's Best years of American history. Lololol.

[@HelloThere-jr6gd]

People were the happiest in the 50s and 60s. That is an actual fact.

[@MysonEggAndHisbrotherCheese]

​@HelloThere-jr6gd not people but rich and asshole men, sure bud let's get you to bed

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Uggggh I heard they can still talk to you like this Also how did Peggy manage to tie everything we see?

[@Reticence9zen924]

Tie what, do you mean?

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Her gown.

[@PipeDog75]

Except for the smoking, trips to the gynecologist today in certain areas of the US still go down like this. SMH

[@ChuckyJesus666]

Ahhhh the 1950's...when you were free to get cancer by second hand smoke just anywhere!

[@zhabakrek]

how come she got pregnant later if she was on birth control?

[@keithnoble5988]

zhabakrek the spermie snock a round the corner and went in

[@sitdowndogbreath]

That stuff is like $90 a month she must have had a gap insurance did not cover birth control pills back in those days only devices so maybe one month she went without and that's when she got pregnant

[@sdoow2007]

It's not 100% effective.

[@donnydonadio1185]

Sickening.

[@alonzo9772]

Republicans want it to go back to this where you have to ask a doctor everytime you want the morning after pill.

[@jimmyrowe3915]

Julian

[@johnparedes7216]

Jimmy Rowe it's its for the most important part in your business to get its

[@RavenFeathers90]

And democrats have been pressuring women into the work force with some liberal agenda. Women are statistically more miserable than they ever were.

[@fbksfrank4]

Julian how about doing as much as you can before, so you won't need the morning after pill.

[@3109C]

You're an idiot

[@RedogOnyx]

Tell that to the 2 women I know that were sexually assulted by gynos.

[@evehearts5047]

Title?

[@salaamallah]

i am always with my wife in the exam room this we do together

[@Reticence9zen924]

Wonderful. :)

[@lauracoates4379]

You sound very controversial

[@foefeebunny3961]

Salaam Allah that's very kind of you. #RelationshipGoal

[@anywaythewindblows8912]

Laura Coates yea I bet it’s date night for them 😂

[@jackiebrown6162]

Why

[@3pj98]

I think you'll find this is a fictional TV drama. It doesn't do much to tell you about real clinical practice. The people in it aren't real, and drawing generalisations about particular groups from their representation in TV shows is not good practice. If anyone believes themselves to have been the object of an assault, sexual or otherwise, by a member of the medical profession then they should report it to the police and to the relevant governing body; for example, here in the UK, the BMA.

[@monicabee]

in 1960?

[@utubersf]

I lived in the 60's and I never got treated that way, nor did any doctor or nurse smoke in the examining room. I think the acting was good, the direction wasn't.

[@kaitlynjennings]

My grandfather was a doctor during this time period and he smoked in patient rooms :/

[@sheeplesheep9379]

How do you abuse birth control, ?

[@xvoy2002]

One thing IS missing here... even back then a doctor would'nt be doing an exam without a nurse present.

[@TinyDancer250]

Bart Logan Back then, I think they did. People weren't suing left and right.

[@PioneerGrrrl]

I don't think they had to be present back then.

[@princessash032587]

Mine doesn’t have one it’s up to me

[@Walldo]

Rush Limbaugh makes this shit look forward-thinking

[@marielaberge8236]

What did you want the scene to be? She wanted pills, she needed the gynecologist. There aren't a million other things she could have done in a gynecologist's exam room. And if anyone is going to be offended I would think it would be the actress and since she did it on national TV, I don't think she minded at all. You read too much into this. It happens to women everyday and everyone knows it. It's people who have hang ups like yours that create taboos.

[@davidm.oliveira2107]

marie laberge. Add no zap [phone]

[@TwelvetreeZ]

It's realistic, sure, but it's meant to show how poor attitudes were back then. What offends me is that, in many parts of the world, these attitudes still exist. Just because it happens every day doesn't mean it should

[@monicabee]

i don't see why not. that's like saying male doctors shouldn't see female patients at all if it involves the woman getting undressed (no surgery, no general practice, no obstetricians...)

[@Sansash01202]

Sorry, you've lost me now .. you'll have to talk to yourself .. this subject doesn't mean enough to me to argue over it with weirdos :))))

[@TheVoidDroid2]

@gunsnforever yeah, I think the same about female docs.. To be honest, of course I didn´t met every single one of them, so it´s subjective.. Me female-doc was this kind. I prefer also male gynecolog

[@sheeplesheep9379]

why do you prefer male gyns ?

[@TinyDancer250]

If she was on the pill, how did she later get preggers with Pete's son?

[@princessjorgeiniecopalacio5026]

sow not sex yuck goodbye

[@princesslulu5795]

Laughing Lark it either failed or she took them incorrectly,, like forgetting them, stopped taking them, taking them the wrong times, etc

[@sitdowndogbreath]

@@princesslulu5795 she forgot to refill

[@Egilhelmson]

@@sitdowndogbreath No one “forgets to refill”. If it was $96 per month in today’s money, with no insurance drug plan coverage, it was too expensive at some point.

[@sdoow2007]

When they say "the pill is 99% effective", that means it was effective for 99 women out of 100. Which means it wasn't effective for the remaining 1%. Its efficacy can be lowered as a result of several factors, including missed pills, starting the new pack late, taking the pill at different times of day - even taking antibiotics. I've known at least two women who got pregnant while they were taking the Pill.

[@princessash032587]

They don’t make you wear gowns like that only ones that open in the front lol

[@robinorlowski2449]

my mom said that the gyn did not regularly check for early stage breast cancer. They just removed the entire breast if/when it did show up....other way it is different.

[@princessash032587]

@@robinorlowski2449 oh I got a lumpectomy at 32 from a benign tumor rapidly growing and then my gyn checked me 2 years ago and he found a huge cyst I got it drained too

[@biba1234567aaaaaaa]

I am afraid to go to female gun because I 've heard they are less delicate than male doctors. What do you think?

[@somethingswicked]

@Armornone oooo sounds like fun. You need some action that doesn't involve f-ing it off on youtube.

[@Kazikox]

You people a mad. Really. Did you watch the same scene as I did?

[@ananse77]

Why would ANYONE, especially any man, choose to be a gyno. Crazy.

[@midnightmagic800]

To make sure they don't get a disease or something

[@mohammadisamario1988]

natalie portman's dad

[@AN-vy4hv]

My exact same thought, I think they are just pervs. I hate them

[@AN-vy4hv]

@@nathanielharry2639 shut up bitch

[@tmo4330]

@@AN-vy4hv They are perverts. A woman would be trashy to see a male gyn. What would her husband think?

[@belbird69]

@abscondi69 Also 1960 was the year the pill was introduced, so I guess they were taking all precautions

[@Аннаушакова-ч1р]

Что это?

[@McPierogiPazza]

@PaulineWalters I had my first pelvic by a male doctor and no one else present in 1987. That's how it used to be. Smoking too, but before my time. This isn't just TV, it's the world before feminism changed things. The episode showing Betty giving birth was exactly how my mom and women her age described it to me as well. Pretty awful.

[@goldendyme8506]

$11 a month damn lol.

[@anywaythewindblows8912]

Shari Craig that’s the 60s for you

[@kajendrabalanbalan902]

Personal opinion: Males shouldn’t be gynecologists.

[@tmo4330]

male gynacologist will burn in hell

[@VietNguyen-sm4dw]

This is just a movie clip. Your comment is way out of line. Male or female OBs /GYNs are all professionals. Can't judge doctors just based on their gender. My wife has a male gynecologist and he's extremely professional. Since a young age I always have female primary care doctors and they are all professionals too.

[@tmo4330]

That's only your opinion. What man in his right mind would ever give his wife permission to spread her legs for another man? What woman would ever want to show a man (other than her husband) her sacred parts?

[@cathyb2967]

T mo Youre an ldiot .

[@cathyb2967]

kajendra balan Balan Get real .

[@tucsonia]

@SWEETasaNUTmateSWEET When I was a tyke in the late 60s/early 70s I remember my family's GP used to smoke in the exam room too, and apparently my mom never complained or seemed to think anything about it. Oh how times have changed.

[@psims77]

why do they not wear shoes when they do this.

[@imperial901]

agreed, same standard should be applied to men.

[@Digmer]

Yeah so responsable...

[@oliveiraolliver8386]

A colleague had testicular surgery, but after the surgery he was unable to urinate. So the nurses started to insert a catheter. Within a few minutes, visitors started arriving, but the nurses did not bother to protect the patient. He said it was the biggest embarrassment of his life. This happened here in Brazil.

[@William_R_S_A]

He's right.

[@Pureimagination200]

he slept with joan

[@andrewlambert4934]

and the point of this video is what??????

[@martinfocken2660]

UTeamDiscus u

[@Reticence9zen924]

The OP said it was interesting to share this 'Mad Men' clip to prove times have changed: nowadays most women from the start of puberty as teens are using the pill.

[@lovetaylorswiftjm]

I don't know 😵

[@jennyoyster5054]

Reticence9 and that’s sad asf!

[@MissMeowsic]

Not sure why all the discussion is about race and personal attacks below. It's a strange diversion from what this clip is really about. I believe the GOP and right wing conservatives would love to go back to a time where women were judged this harshly. I scares me that decades later, so many misogynists share this quack's POV.

[@iwishyouwould1781]

You know how to upset a snowflake, show them a scripted scene and convince them it's the real world..

[@whydid666]

Well even today many men are gynecologists it's simply a profession and they think nothing sexual about it, then again many more gyno's are women because many women are doctors today. Also I've had female doctor examine....my male parts and well she is a doctor their is nothing more to it.

[@EmeraldSky33]

@lovesbroadway1 Yeah, it is, but modern gynos aren't rude like that.

[@crasherout]

You do not strike me as a very bright individual. If shame evokes from within such actions, there is clearly something wrong. We are born with the knowledge of separating good from bad. You feel shame in accordance to doing something wrong. One would not feel ashamed for buying a car for an example, but one who stole it, would, especially when pointed out they are a thief. But please, don't take my word for it, ask around yourself. I shall say no more. I leave you to your thoughts.

[@MayILearnEverything]

No, society teaches us the difference between good and bad.

[@atozinco]

I know. But there wasn't much choice back then, most doctors were guys

[@ananse77]

Not sure who you're referring to here. "You people"??? Me and none of my people, i.e. my family and friends, have multiple babies. Anyhoo, don't let the media give you a skewed perception of Africa. I've been there, and its not all starving babies and disease. It's filled with ordinary people living their lives, including many ambitious young people striving for education & upward mobility. And believe me, most have no interest in begging...

[@RedogOnyx]

Very true money over health, very bad

[@ilovesillybands]

any guys dream job

[@sheeplesheep9379]

pelvic exams were designed to groom women into getting use to being sexually assaulted

[@anacrobat89]

@manriquebuk She wanted to get checked out and get birth control pills.

[@zx169]

I think it was awesome back then

[@beepandbop]

@anacrobat89 except it isn't 100% accurate. Not even close. I know both men and women who grew up in the '60's, lived in the '60's and frankly they're unimpressed by the alleged "change." Has the world changed? Certainly. Has it changed as much as Mad Men would have you believe? Certainly not. The most massive period (forty years or so) of change in Western History was between the years 1880-1920.

[@kendrahouston1774]

I have a female GYN

[@ตัวเอง-ส8ศ]

Kendra Housto.

[@rbyq6398]

Your smart

[@somethingswicked]

@Armornone I could ask you the same, sweetheart. Aren't you a little too young to be even watching Mad Men?

[@RedogOnyx]

One of the sexuall assults was by a woman doctor. should be any gynos, period

[@sheeplesheep9379]

pelvic exams were designed to groom women into getting use to being sexually assaulted

[@ficklefun]

@gremlin05 Are you serious right now? That's funny because I wasn't aware that it was a woman's objective in life to find a husband.

[@sitdowndogbreath]

No winding up in an SRO later on in life is so much better Rite fuck out of here with your feminism motion

[@alanmiller8887]

What a boring job ! I'm glad I studied Engineering !.....

[@RLviddy]

Jeez, what is with all the nastiness everywhere you go on the internet? Are people just furious all the time and looking for the slightest opportunity, no matter how paper thin, to snipe at complete strangers? And can we just leave women and men and gender politics alone? Can we focus on, oh, how about good health, good sociological progress, etc? JEEZ! Enough with the negativity!

[@sdoow2007]

Are people just furious all the time and looking for the slightest opportunity, no matter how paper thin, to snipe at complete strangers? >> In a word, yes.

[@henndri]

Wah ini hanyalah sebuah film yang jauh berbeda dengan kondisi aslinya jika berada di ruang periksa ginekolog

[@bebetigre12]

TOO MUCH PRESURE BEHIND THE KNEES

[@RedogOnyx]

Read my other comments, then feel free to respond

[@ananse77]

ctd. Views like yours are one unfortunate effect of the "charity" model of Africa pushed by people like Bono. Though well intentioned, they present this one dimensional & ultimately harmful view of the continent as a place of despair and lack, instead of as a place of opportunities for investment & entrepreneurship. Zambian economist Dambisa Moyo's written and spoken a lot about that. Anyway, I would prefer not to side track this comments section any more with an irrelevant "racial" discussion.

[@Mrster]

@annaleighclark Welcome to the 60's, doll! ^^

[@hilmihilmi9166]

vidio lagi

[@近藤和子-o7q]

😅😊

[@yennao]

Yenna

[@ca280491]

@CarlyIsAGangster not for everybody...

[@Turtletoots3]

still don't get how can someone be ok with her gynecologist being a dude

[@tamanyadav4140]

Man can sleep with woman but can't treat.... why?

[@imperial901]

unless its more than 1 man...then it gets bad...

[@dellthinker]

I guess that could be a bit uncomfortable if you were a chick. Seeing how i am not, i would love to be in the place of that doc :D Although i wouldnt talk.

[@pennydesouza]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

[@007SPIDER007]

someone should say the same thing to the ladies these days.

[@ca280491]

ok then :P