The lack of broken answer-or-lose-threats is really a blessing. Love this cube list.
@bricelory953410 күн бұрын
One thing about the retro Cube is that because midrange is so much less dominating, you have space to play these more specialized, kinda whacky decks. It's just hard to compete with things designed to have an impact in a 4-player Commander game like Minsc & Boo, Canonneer, Bombadiers, etc. Right now, I don't miss them.
@brianh584410 күн бұрын
This format definitely gives LSV more room to cook and have it work out. You can't really do that when your opponent's 1-4 drops win the game on their own and you lose if you don't have removal or your own game-winning snowball threat.
@artemi77 күн бұрын
This honestly feels like a better cube overall.
@gippygames10 күн бұрын
LMAO that "carnage" mindgame at the end was fantastic
@marcogoncalves320710 күн бұрын
Carnage into instant concession. Absolute cinema!
@dementievatz9 күн бұрын
I had to explain to my kid why I was laughing at my phone. 😂
@cyclopentadien22219 күн бұрын
Gaby was right about coercive portal.
@gavinblue353410 күн бұрын
mulldrifter in various retro cube decks is the greatest content there is
@ZeroIsEven10 күн бұрын
T1: Black Lotus, Mulldrifter, win
@jasonbelleisle75724 күн бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊00000
@coolerdaniel989910 күн бұрын
I liked the deck so much in this video, I ended up sharing two separate moments from it with my friend; when you tricked the opp. with Coercive Portal, and the T1 smokestack game. Both of those wouldn't have happened in a generically powerful vintage cube.
@BlowntoBytes10 күн бұрын
Shoutouts to the MVPs of this deck: The enemy Urza and the enemy Retrofitter.
@servantofdiscord35869 күн бұрын
Wanted to thank you for all the vintage cube videos throughout the years, but especially over the last couple months. I only really play magic when I'm drafting cube now, and had a really bad cube season the last time it was out. Almost decided to stop drafting cube altogether. Watched your videos and your months long losing streak and actually found a lot of solace in it. Gave retro cube another shot and won 9 trophies! Now convinced it was just a bad cube iteration and I look forward to future iterations!
@TheGregoryodd10 күн бұрын
Happy we got to see the nut smokestack draw… was one of my fav vintage cube decks for awhile and good to see it in action again 😊
@matthewbell489710 күн бұрын
One of my fav videos in the last couple months, SUPER FUN draft
@turbobrew10 күн бұрын
That smokestack game was sick. The original stax.
@jaceee41549 күн бұрын
The nostaligia in these retro cubes have been 10/10 i would NOT mind more of these
@asdfjajsjajsj941010 күн бұрын
This is the cube content I love! I wish you'd use a cube like this on the server drafts, but IDK if its what everyone prefers to play.
@coreylemoine492010 күн бұрын
Big same!
@parkcollie-zd6jo8 күн бұрын
I’d love if retro or old order cubes got more play in the divination
@milanfillipi56569 күн бұрын
If this episode isn’t a sign that retro cube needs more airtime to mix up the cube vibes, I don’t know what is. Many blessings to your new twins and can’t wait to see the new retro cube draftmancer list in the rotation one day!
@tepidgoose5 сағат бұрын
This is an awesome cube. I also love that I know the vast majority of cards, instead of recent cube iterations where I don't recognise a lot of what's going on
@wtsnoot10 күн бұрын
I am really enjoying seeing consecrated sphinx back on top
@mikeweeks69410 күн бұрын
Passive effect artifacts were Continuous Artifacts back then.
@dylanm90719 күн бұрын
I don’t frequently comment but I just have to say how much I’m loving the classic vintage cube videos!
@bufels9 күн бұрын
this is such an improvement over the regular vintage cube, wow- i liked the idea of this cube but the games play out even better than i would have imagined
@Dr.Detractor.Steffie10 күн бұрын
The most excited i have been in your videos in weeks xD was to see if tangle wire came back..
@jeffreyculbert209310 күн бұрын
I was very much looking forward to it wheeling too. So sad, not to be today.
@monogreen10 күн бұрын
This is the sweetest Academy deck I've seen in a while.
@thenormiedave9 күн бұрын
That shamequit on coercive portal was gold
@simonemengozzi67786 күн бұрын
Smokestack is the card i most miss of the old ones in the cube, so much fun playing with it
@jrjamesson9 күн бұрын
carnage! this video saved my life. thank you LSV!
@wouterleten19828 күн бұрын
Love this draft. There was a near perfect storm deck in here as well with that pack one
@TheHeterolifemates10 күн бұрын
“Hangerback Walker Texas Ranger” 😂
@CuriousShrimp9 күн бұрын
52:30 I love the fact that Coercive Portal is one of the few cards that get much better online, cos of stuff like that 😂
@lucasmohallem81369 күн бұрын
I’ve been really enjoying this cube!
@anthonyjs80485 күн бұрын
Loved this deck and video!
@LizEllwood10 күн бұрын
You know. I'm 38 seconds in and I gotta be honest, you know how absolutely insane it must feel to get passed a lotus
@Kumagoro4210 күн бұрын
That player must have thought LSV's connection went down.
@jewpcabra66610 күн бұрын
I love mono u artifacts ans love the stax - g1 I was praying for the metamorphic + or combo and I was so happy to see it. edit: t1 smokestack is my dream m I love this ggs!
@anosmianAcrimony9 күн бұрын
This is exactly the kind of deck I've missed for all the years since the cube pivoted away from this kind of thing!
@EnzoGarabatos9 күн бұрын
I'm looking forward to your own retro cube! Retro except for Noise Marine, that is.
@hamishfox9 күн бұрын
M2g2 was sweet. It brings back all the glorious memories.
@paulallison397410 күн бұрын
stacks, remember when mtg players embraced their sadist and massochist sides... i approve :)
@paulallison397410 күн бұрын
and hail to 90s magic
@bettorup_10 күн бұрын
He can't keep getting away with that portal play!
@Gussyboii10 күн бұрын
Before watching the games this deck looks like a dream...
@philosopherhobbs9 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I like this Cube overall but I like having fewer I win cards. Overall I want a Cube with powerful enablers+engines and less I win combos. Caleb Gannon's came close.
@WhiteNameVibes10 күн бұрын
The carnage click was the best
@TheSamzidat9 күн бұрын
Few people can get as giddy as LSV over smokestack retrofitter battles
@eggu18289 күн бұрын
LSV is once again playing EDH at this point. Sol Ring, Sphinx, Winter Orb
@vinni5228 күн бұрын
Winter Orb was originally printed as a “Continuous Artifact”you didn’t need to tap it to have an effect but it the effect shuts off when it’s tapped somehow.
@j33w229 күн бұрын
You were right the first time LSV. It was Mono Artifact
@mjm22359 күн бұрын
Regarding the Carnage on the Coercive Portal: You said that's not going to happen again. Not that match, no, but that was the 2nd time I have seen that work for you!
@jeffreyculbert209310 күн бұрын
Excited for this smoke stack. Gonna be a fun one.
@jeffreyculbert209310 күн бұрын
Oh yeah… that was a sick smokestack game. Copy opponent retrofitter too, heck yes. Blast from the past right there. Made my day.
@mattcook775710 күн бұрын
I have been enjoying the cube power level where consecrated sphinx is playable again!
@85mcarnold10 күн бұрын
16:35 Continuous Artifact
@georgea41249 күн бұрын
This cube is great. I felt some of the normal cube decks devolved into who got the better opening hand (I feel this way about a lot of more recent magic TBH). You still get fun broken stuff like metalworker for 8 though. It also seems like there's more variety in general. The normal cube list has bombs and cards that never see play.
@Zii_Vii8 күн бұрын
On my phone it looks like you got that Zorg haircut from the movie 5th element lol
@christopherlundgren17009 күн бұрын
Winter Orb and its ilk were "Continuous Artifacts", artifacts that have a global effect that is always on unless the artifact is tapped. Mono Artifacts are the ones that tap to do something (implying once per turn), and Poly Artifacts have activations that don't require tapping.
@BarginsGalore9 күн бұрын
LSV getting his pick order from Stephen smith
@Grimestep10 күн бұрын
lsv will you sign my birds of paradise
@Seldomheardabout10 күн бұрын
Screw that, I want him to sign my Bible.
@coreylemoine492010 күн бұрын
Brown town? Retro cube is the best!
@MarkChaney-b8k9 күн бұрын
You all should put this cube list in your draft server it might be crazy team games
@ruudvanlaarhoven577610 күн бұрын
See? You open power and you pass it, no more complaining😂
@jonesdarryn110 күн бұрын
no regrets on lotus brainfreeze. i agree with ur choice of sol ring over lotus. ive seen u pick lotus first pick pack 1 twice and lose. 1 of those times u had lotus, 2 moxes and mox diamond. also, u have beaten ppl who had lotus + ancestral
@petersan963310 күн бұрын
I was curious at around 34:40 attacking the daretti, if you were going to upheaval wouldn’t it have made more sense to attack the player? Was wondering what was the rationale with the attack towards the planeswalker
@LSVargas9 күн бұрын
It was definitely an error hah
@artemi79 күн бұрын
What the heck do you think your opponent thought when they load into a Cube Draft, sees LSV is passing to them, and then the GET THE LOTUS lol. They have to be wondering what you could have opened lol.
@christopherjohns77210 күн бұрын
The Sol Ring is better in this kind of deck. You wouldn't want to lotus into a mana rock or some draw a few cards spell, and the payoff cards are generally past 4 mana. However, unless you just plan to force this deck or some variant, the lotus should always be the 1.1 pick.
@Vermilio89310 күн бұрын
Just wrong, 5-10 years ago it was extremely common cube knowledge that sol ring was the best p1p1, bar none. Most of the impactful cards cost 4 or more mana
@HazmanFTW8 күн бұрын
16:42 if I remember it was continuos artifact
@BloodMoonGo10 күн бұрын
What a game 1
@Gummiebearzz10 күн бұрын
will you do a foundations cube?
@modernmcfly541110 күн бұрын
Casually cast 18 mana worth of spells on turn 4, no big deal.
@dementievatz9 күн бұрын
I loved when he had the option to not use Ancient Tomb when hard casting the Portal to Phyrexia.
@nomukun11389 күн бұрын
Is there any rhyme or reason to the inconsistent Signet frames?
@maclowe125410 күн бұрын
You should adjust your cube to be more like the retro cube, it's so much more fun than the current vintage cube, so much more variety not just a midrange slugfest.
@Nalianna9 күн бұрын
16:40 Continuous Artifact.
@mitchhak210 күн бұрын
Hot take on the first pick but I agree.
@benlittle554310 күн бұрын
*squints at face cam on my cell phone New hair cut? Stylish
@Rasgael0110 күн бұрын
The instant regret
@Stokkeland2310 күн бұрын
That vamp and play a Yawghmoth knowing an Upheaval is coming was really something. Yeah, let's pay 2 life and cast a completely useless spell. Bizarre
@garagavia8 күн бұрын
Where can I find this cube list?
@RW777777779 күн бұрын
this is the cube deck from 20 years ago
@godaska9 күн бұрын
maybe black lotus will wheel?
@drackan258210 күн бұрын
Carnage value
@mitchhak210 күн бұрын
What do you know when the cube is more about synergy and good decision-making Luis is back to stomping fools. Just goes to show the new cards are taking away from the game we (used to) love.
@kakafluf10 күн бұрын
I really miss the team/more modern cube, this retro one really is really not for me xD
@TheDasErdinger10 күн бұрын
MTGA is broken every 2nd update so I guess it could be worse
@Slimpster5203 сағат бұрын
LSV, what's up with that hair...?
@danpickett227910 күн бұрын
These drafts are almost unwatchable without the sorting.
@newscoulomb370510 күн бұрын
16:19 The term was "Continuous Artifact".
@Kumagoro4210 күн бұрын
What a time was that to be alive. Mono Artifact, Poly Artifact, Continuous Artifact. Why was it that this one card type needed to have not one, not two, but three separate declinations? Only Garfield knows.
@Marksmaan10 күн бұрын
Cube 4-5 years ago, this and storm were the strongest decks imo. (Other than red but low to the ground red aggro isn't possible in retro cube since no Goblin Guide etc). But I never played storm. Its a fun deck to watch, but I don't have enough experience to do it well. So this artifact deck was always my favorite to play.
@randlechris10 күн бұрын
poly artifact
@Sodmaster1119 күн бұрын
Continuous artifact actually
@thebudguy1210 күн бұрын
Going to give myself an aneurysm. Can't stop screaming out loud "and then HeEeEEeEre."
@koopk19 күн бұрын
I think i kinda prefer this cube to the commander cards