MONSTA X MONDAY TIME TRAVELER FINALE! VCR #2 SEVEN DEADLY SINS FIND YOU + KISS OR DEATH

[@cheeesepizzza]

Yay more monsta x plz !

[@Killdeer25]

Every Monday! Here!

[@kristenblack6026]

Very interesting theory! I love it. So I might not have been paying attention to what all storyline there are that you will cover but are you saying the Seven Deadly Sins storyline is it's own storyline too? And it ties in with this one? So then that storyline could provide more clues to this one too if we get to explore the evil Monsta X more. Loving Monsta X Mondays. I'm becoming a little bit obsessed if I'm honest. I watched their No Mercy survival debut show over the weekend. It was intense! I'm glad I mostly watch these shows knowing who got in because otherwise they are pretty harrowing! Anyway, these guys are making me challenge my mental criteria for ranking groups. I've always said EXO is my absolute ults because they are the only group where I like every single song in the discography. Even my number 2 Shinee and number 3 NCT have songs I don't care for. But so far I haven't found any song of Monsta X I don't love so does that mean they outrank Shinee? Seventeen might be allowed to challenge NCT but they never threatened Shinee. And are Monsta X now tied with EXO? My EXO-L/Shawol heart is very conflicted. I don't know how y'all one group stans do it. Though your time deciding what you want to listen to today must be a lot easier. 😆 Oh and if you're looking for non-storyline song recommendations, The Dreaming is wonderful. Actually I have no idea if it's part of a storyline but it's so good.

[@cheeesepizzza]

awww so glad you found them ☺️

[@Killdeer25]

thank you! lol thats ok, I kinda get a little carried away in smaller details! thats why I have heard, that the Seven deadly sins is its own story unto itself as well, so I will cover that as well! I love Monsta X, they are quickly becoming a favorite of mine, I still play riptide nearly daily, I find myself looking at a lot of their content on their TikTok lol! I am with you, I am huge into Infinite, EXO and quite a few others, but I find myself revisiting MX sooo much recently! ok that is exactly how I feel! like I love so many different groups, EXO, SVT, TXT, BTS, DAY6, SB19, MONSTA X, BTOB, SHINEE, BIGBANG , How can you choose just one? The Dreaming? got it!

[@jessicaglass]

@@kristenblack6026 so the seven deadly sins I believe was to be a separate storyline. If you look at it this way. Monsta x had seven members and they all represent a seven deadly sin. Then wonho had to leave the group making it six members. But the two mvs shootout and alligator also have time travel elements inside the mvs and wonho was there for both of those mvs as well. In find you I’m saying this because now he’s watched it. In find you there is clips from alligator, shootout, dramarama and I believe also the connect music film for destroyer. It connects all the mvs we see before it. So scenes from both of those songs are in find you which is part of the time travel storyline. :) and no the dreaming is not apart of a storyline. So you are correct it is a non storyline song :)

[@kristenblack6026]

@ Lol too many groups is a fun problem to have honestly. I just feel bad when I get sidetracked by one group and start dropping the ball on comebacks from other ones. BTW, I bought tickets to NCT 127 in Toronto AND SMTown in LA!!! Not sure how I’m going to pay for the trip to LA yet. They announced the concert about five days after I booked the whole NCT trip to Toronto. If I’d have known SMTown was hitting North America I’d have passed on 127. Oh well, I think SMTown is once in a lifetime so I had to go!!! Confirmed line up so far is SuJu, Suho and Chanyeol (!!!!), NCT Dream, Wish and WayV, RIIZE. And more, whoever more is, hopefully Aespa and Red Velvet and maybe a couple Shinee or SNSD members! Maybe Kai?!!! I still can’t believe I got a ticket!!!!

[@kristenblack6026]

@ Thanks for this! I’ve definitely been watching mvs and listening to songs in completely random order so I don’t even know what songs are on what album or before or after Wonho left unless I don’t see him in the mv.

[@nikkasandoval3159]

Oh bad versions of MX is a theory I never thought of but I find it very interesting and can see how it fits too!

[@Killdeer25]

yes! evil MX out there terrorizing!

[@greywhale]

OHHH I had always thought that KOD was a linked to the time travel time line but I had not realized just how much. I like the theory of there being 2 different versions of MX on the train. And now that I saw them I realized that they are all dressed in black and the spaceship commanding center! What if they infiltrated the Men in black time travel police. That is why they know were Wonho and Minhyuk were. I used to see theories saying that Hyungwon's father made the watch and that maybe he was part of those Men in black that maybe he was evil and was hunting down Hyungwon. (I don't even remember where I read this theory haha) OH I JUST REMEMBERED They have one more FILM lore type related video. It was during FANTASIA X album. Their first comeback after FOLLOW. MONSTA X 몬스타엑스 'FANTASIA X' FlLM Edit: I found the film trailers for shoot out and alligator [Special Film] 몬스타엑스 (MONSTA X)- ARE YOU THERE? [PREVIOUS FILM] MONSTA X 몬스타엑스- ARE YOU THERE?

[@jessicaglass]

Yeah I was thinking about doing the Fantasia film like doing all the teasers. And adding it to the list I gave him. But I wanted to refresh my memory on those and see what the connection could be. His theory for KOD was amazing. I didn’t even think about that at all. For me my theory about hyungwon dad was that maybe hyungwon dad was like the IT time traveler. And he may have been like maybe the inventor of the watches and maybe that’s how hyungwon was able to do what he did with the watches and give them to kihyun in dramarama. And that hyungwon was taught everything his dad knew about it. And that in find you he went back in time where he got lost to bring his dad back. That is was my theory was. But his theories were so very interesting.

[@greywhale]

@@jessicaglass That could make the watch a bootstrap paradox object it wasnt created it just exists in a time loop.

[@jessicaglass]

@ ohhh good point. But I’m coming from thinking of it a tad more further in the past. As in when did the time watch became into existence. There is a reason it’s there and has someone who invented it and created it. Your point makes sense to though. For me I may be more thinking to much into it but like I’m curious of how it came to be and why.

[@Killdeer25]

oh yeah! I think that could be true, the number one story that comes from everything in the whole multiverse thing is, who can you trust? also the other thing is too is absolutely leads to infiltration as well! interesting, thought about the dad, I never thought of him as an evil entity. good to know, I will check this out before Monday

[@fiarflare]

There’s a few more short videos from Fantasia promotions if you’d like to watch them as well, even on your own, that pretty explicitly link to the time travel I think. I just noticed something in Find You that seems to link to them. They’re the Fantasia X trailers and the Fantasia X Film, I’ll try to link if you end up wanting to (though KZbin doesn’t like it when I try to haha) Other Monbebe, is there any info in albums like there was for the Clan series? I don’t remember. The theory of multiple including an evil MX is super interesting, as well as it being a time loop! I don’t think Hyungwon is his father (have you seen the show Dark haha?), but that maybe his father was involved with the Time police/agency. Someone else commented before and I personally agree (well I think I still agree) that I don’t consider Shoot Out or Alligator to be part of the time travel storyline, but there definitely are people that include it (maybe separate timelines like you said). I have some new things to think on now with your theories haha 😆 For me I consider Kiss or Death a continuation, but I’m going to get my thoughts in order then come back to write my theories!

[@jessicaglass]

@@fiarflare so as I said above to another commenter :) shootout and alligator was supposed to be just seven deadly sins. But became wonho left there was only six members and wouldn’t be able to continue that. It was put in apart of the time travel. Both mvs have time travel elements in them and in find you scenes of both mvs are in the find you mv. So it does connect them with the time travel storyline :) so the clan storyline has three songs in it which are all in, fighter and I believe also beautiful. :) I hope that helps :)

[@Killdeer25]

I dont know how I feel about Alligator being part of it, however I feel like Shoot out felt pretty good in the time line, I will be checking those out as well, I will probably put them up on another day, before next Monday. yeah, I dont think that he is his own father either lol! I think he was the original inventor, thats what I am leaning to

[@jessicaglass]

@@Killdeer25 I’m the same way about alligator but some clips of alligator is in find you. That’s how I can connect it. I do see it more as a seven deadly sins. But it does have clips in find you. And that’s what I’m saying also is his father is the original time traveler he’s the one who’s invented it and everything. Which is now hyungwon is able to know about it and learn about it and then become the time traveler. To me that makes sense.

[@fiarflare]

@@jessicaglass thanks! Sorry I meant I don’t remember if there’s any info on the time travel storyline in the albums like there was for the Clan series, which had a blurb in the album explaining some things. For Shoot Out and Alligator for me I see it as them adding the clips mainly as b-roll and elements like the clocks tbh to connect them only visually for fun, but I personally don’t really think they’re actually part of the time travel storyline/add to the plot is what I mean? I don’t think it was because of Wonho I think they just stopped the 7 sins idea after Alligator because it was pretty finished thematically imo. But I can see it being connected to the time travel storyline with the theory of there being two MX’s, especially an evil version!

[@fiarflare]

@@Killdeer25 I think so too! Though what I’m puzzling over (could just be an Easter egg) is that when Hyungwon finds the watch in Find You it’s set to 2047, the year Wonho was in in Dramarama while everyone else was much earlier, mainly 2017. 🤔😅