Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak - One of The Most POWERFUL Skills But Also The Most DANGEROUS

[@Rockito456]

You can use a diablos GS and take advantage of the extra defense to mitigate the 100 defense loss at max. So you gain a significant boost in attack with less risk than going with a raw weapon without a defense boost. 😎

[@aarongeorge4885]

Yup. Weapons with defense bonuses have a lot of value with this armor.

[@KiLLaCaM607]

The Royal Order Greatsword gives a defense buff too right? I know its 50 with Royal cuz I’ve been using it and don’t even have the final upgrade yet. If it’s more than what Diablos gives, its another good option. Won’t have as high Raw but has 10% affinity and comfy purple sharpness

[@functionatthejunction]

Or you could do 7 attack boost, get more attack, and none of this goofy drawback junk.

[@potatoexe5410]

@@functionatthejunction or do both atk +7 with this and just dont get hit

[@HenshinFanatic]

Hear me out, Rarity 10 Diablos CB + Mail of Hellfire Lv3 + Attack Boost Lv7 + Artillery Lv3 = Massive SAED + AED phial damage.

[@ryean8212]

Safi'Jiiva armor is probably my favorite in monster hunter because of the high risk high reward aspect, I'm so glad they made many more like it in this expansion, I will surely have a lot to explore and many, again, high risk high reward builds to make

[@Shiverwar]

I personally like Shagaru Magala's armor skill set. The idea of turning the Frenzy to your own weapon is pretty damn cool.

[@sanjaeharris5352]

@@Shiverwar coalescence works with dragon heart too so if u over heal get the buff Great for if u mess up & in multi player i used to hate getting healed out of my d heart now I get a little power back (nothing is stopping me from getting hit again) Coalescence 2 is on talismans

[@DripLordGogeta]

Running this on my gunlance build with two levels of bloodlust and having a really good time! The defense loss is easily mitigated (free lvl1 slots for defense boost, the armor having high defense, etc.) and the damage boost obtained from mail of hellfire and bloodlust is just insane. Plus, I must say that the chest piece with those swords held by flying flaming skulls is the most metal thing I've seen in a while, absolutely a fan

[@TheAnaz41745]

I've been playing around with this unique armor skill, but I can't find enough reasons to use it over Dereliction However, there is an unique interaction if you use this skill with Valstrax's Dragonheart skill. Whenever you activated the Dragonheart blight effect, the 30-50 elements resistance you get will overwrite the resistance reduction demerit of the Mail of Hellfire.

[@frescopino7866]

Personally, I prefer this over Dereliction A LOT. Sure, Dereliction is more powerful, but a single point into Mail won't put you in as much danger as Dereliction, and I can use Moxie to effectively give myself an out anyway, something that Dereliction just doesn't allow given the constantly draining health. Plus, a single point of it won't reduce your armor too much, and most good armor is found in the upper tiers of defense. It's almost like not having a downside, really.

[@TheAnaz41745]

@@frescopino7866 Well, the thing is I run Dereliction + Bloodlust so I get double the health drain, while being able to heal back all of my red health by overcoming the Frenzy debuff. Dereliction also allows me to heal from skill swapping and for some reason I can use an Antidobra to cure the Frenzy debuff which gives me the bonus instantly while healing me to full like a max potion. So maintaining HP isn't that much of an issue while I get plethora of buffs and not just a raw stats from Mail of Hellfire. Also, the increase to element for lv1 Mail of Hellfire is almost nonexistent, making it only useful for element build with lv3 and high base element weapons for that 1.2x modifier but you suffer 50 reduced resistances. Wouldn't be a problem against monsters with no element attacks, but it's still more limited in use compared to Dereliction, especially when combined with Bloodlust

[@cheemslord9917]

good for element build

[@VenganceAngel19]

@@TheAnaz41745 imo thats why i prefer mail, you dont really need a HP set up and the raw it gives is way better than dere

[@bobzbrodr5949]

I noticed that with dragon heart too. Good point! If this skill or dragon heart become talismans, I’m using both at max

[@ravingraven2522]

One thing I love about this armor set was, as soon as I saw Coalescence on Gore Magala's armor, I was thinking of combining it with Hellfire Cloak. And then the devs had the same idea and tossed them together (along with Mail of Hellfire) to make a ridiculously fun combo. My main Insect Glaive build incorporates both the Shagaru Bloodlust bonus with two points of Mail of Hellfire, for a crazy high-risk, high-reward playstyle.

[@NemesisUmbral]

Probably one of the best armor sets by design of all time. I’m planning to use this set completely with the GS and add the Magnamalo Soul rampage deco for the fun of it and to see if there is a huge significance in power in becoming a glass canon.

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

The one point 15 raw bonus is pretty sweet but I think calling it "one of the most powerful" is very hyperbolic. 25 raw was a HUGE deal in 4U, and that was kind of the last time that it was. Also you never really want to go all-in on raw. Affinity boosts tend to be more cost-effective as long as you have crit boost in the mix, and point-for-point raw _without_ crit boost becomes less valuable than affinity past 400 raw, while with _full_ crit boost affinity is worth more than raw point-for-point past 250 raw (up to a certain amount of affinity, of course- If you're at 80% affinity with crit boost 3 for example, more raw is preferable up to 330 raw, at which point the next point of affinity will be worth more than the next point of raw). Of course since investment is not always equal, sometimes it is better to go for raw simply because you can get a lot of it cheaply- That's the strength of a single-point bonus of 15 raw I suppose, though affinity technically wins that race too, as I don't think any skill in the game is on-par with the value of Hellion Mode for DBs, which gives 100 points of _affinity_ for the cost of using a level 3 rampage slot weapon (there are several otherwise excellent DBs that also have this, like Kushala's, Almudron's and Rathalos's as well as the final boss's and the archaic machina or whatever it's called) and draining double sharpness (which isn't a huge problem even with no razor sharp or master's touch thanks to ironsilk polish; With either of those skills you don't even need to be particularly good at dodging to stay at full sharpness using ironsilk, though you may miss some opportunities to drill). Of course, on the other hand, if you are using hellion mode and your weapon doesn't have negative affinity to begin with you'll only see further gains from raw anyway.

[@Kreecherthekitty]

IIRC they heavily nerfed Hellion mode to only give 20% affinity sadly and the Doara Soul stacks up to 15% instead of 30%

[@stay60feetawayfromme33]

Is it really? I was excited for the Narga/S Magala weapons til someone told me they were crap cause the base damage is too low to make up for

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

@@Kreecherthekitty Ouch

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

@@stay60feetawayfromme33 Everything I said (except about hellion mode because of a nerf apparently) is mathematically correct assuming you're running crit boost 3, which you should be anyway. However, note that affinity past 100% is useless but raw scales forever. If you can somehow hit 100% affinity, every single applicable raw-boosting skill and all the non-damage skills you want, and still have slots left over, then a lower-affinity higher-raw weapon can hit higher damage potential, but that's a big if. Looking at the exact tradeoff, and looking at sns as a good "baseline" weapon, a natural-raw weapon with an element or status and 0 affinity seems to consistently have around 330 raw. Le Limier has only 290 raw, but 35 affinity. Ignoring all other factors (like further skill investment), Limier's EFR (effective raw) is 290*(1+0.4*0.35)=330.6 (base raw times one to represent the base raw plus the 40% crit damage times the 35% of the time you get a crit; assuming all else is the same, like sharpness, this is the formula for factoring affinity and crit boost into your EFR), negligibly higher than (effectively equal to) the competition. Assuming you have around 50 total raw from armour skills (eg skills like resentment, attack+ and hellfire mail) and weakness exploit 3 (apparently the cheapest affinity you can get still since I just learned hellion mode was nerfed already), and that the value of the element/status is basically equal, the 330 raw weapon has 380*(1+0.4*0.5)=456 EFR, and Le Limier has 340*(1+0.4*0.85)=455.6 EFR, even more negligibly worse than the equivalent weapon. Of course, you'd build around the affinity to raw optimisation I mentioned before if you wanted to be mathematically optimal, but that's why I gave both a hefty chunk of both raw and affinity to try to keep it as representative as possible (which, full disclosure, I may have failed to do, as most raw-boosting skills give you +15 or +20, or in the case of attack boost is a 7-point skill instead of a 3-point AND boosts your raw more if you have more base raw (boosting 330 raw weapons by 43 and 290 raw weapons by 39 at +7) though its skill points are level 1 slot for decos, making the level of investment to reach 50 raw different from crit boost+weakness exploit; the ease with which you can stack affinity with WE is another innate strength of affinity; to be honest, I'm just too lazy to calculate a more nuanced comparison tailoured to each weapon with roughly equal investment right now). So in summary it wasn't really the point I was trying to make in my OP (my point was more that you have diminishing returns as you stack only raw or only affinity and should attune each to the other, since the more raw you have the more valuable affinity becomes and vice versa), but Shagaru weapons are _about_ equally effective to higher-raw equivalents. Despite some major balancing issues in general, Capcom are pretty good at this kind of mathematically simple balancing (for most weapon classes, most of the time; But throw in other factors like phial types and that starts to break down, and handicraft-attainable purple but no natural purple for example may create a discrepancy between Capcom's idea of how powerful a weapon is and how powerful it really is, either because costing handi to hit purple (and having less purple than a nat purple) makes it weaker than the devs expected because of the investment cost, or because it's balanced assuming you won't have purple so that handi becomes a very powerful skill on-par with crit boost or weakness exploit, but one that you can't apply to a weapon that already has natural purple. Take all that with a grain of salt because I have not yet closely examined all the options in Sunbreak, but these are balancing mistakes I have observed in past games. Also unless they back it up with hard maths, be careful what you believe when dealing with the MH community. There has always been a lot of misinformation floating around- Leftover info from past games that is no longer relevant in newer ones, people "feelycrafting" (which is when they feel like something should be true, so they assert it as true without factchecking, and sometimes say it in an authoritative way that convinces people they are an expert; This is a lot worse in another game's community where I've been theorycrafting, because that game is a gacha and people get VERY attached to characters they like or have invested into (Genshin Impact), but it happens a lot in MH too, sometimes over the dumbest things), and outright poor understanding of the systems (less of a problem nowadays because most of the numbers are exposed in-game at this point so it's harder for someone to be ignorant) leading to statements that would be true, if things worked the way you'd assume they would. And of course, there are people parroting any of the above.

[@aarongeorge4885]

This makes taking blight negating hunting horns worth it a little bit.

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

the best-looking armour i've seen... is Gaismagorm's armour. rarely - and i do mean *rarely* - do we get an armour set that lets us become the beast. there was Stygian Zinogre and Fatalis in Iceborne and 4U (rember the latter's Relic armour?), but nothing much else.

[@lemnioaz3854]

Nah, Gaismagorm’s looks too much like a lego NexoKnights set for a Frankenstein inspired monster

[@piedpiper1185]

You could use 1 piece of this with 4 Valstrax and a dragon weapon. sit in blue scroll and Valstrax will override the resistance penalty. Kinda niche but it should work pretty well

[@cashday1839]

I'm so glad to have someone reference garran laggan been so long

[@GBugden]

"Generally you dont want to get hit" Laughs in Counterstrike

[@Fixti0n]

Use this with Dango Adrenaline for maximum chad. Because if you are gona get one shot, get one shot with style!

[@hazyviper4612]

Easier to use than dereliction but weaker overall. Dereliction 1 gives the same raw boost as mail of hellfire 3, before taking into account 100% uptime on resentment. Dank layered though. Easily Sunbreak's best aesthetic. Dereliction 1, resentment 5 is the way to go but mail of hellfire 3 is a good alternative if you find yourself getting clapped thanks to Dereliction's health drain.

[@RuiNDieM1988]

Pretty sure they're the same at level 3, at least that's what other KZbinrs have said

[@hazyviper4612]

They're the same when both at level 3 & you have a single qurio active (+25) but qurio 2 & 3 add 5 more raw each (+35). Dereliction 1 with all 3 Qurio active (15 + 5 + 5) gives the same raw as mail of hellfire 3. Dereliction 2 & 3 have diminishing returns (+5 each). Dereliction 1, Resentment 5 can give +50 raw with 3 active Qurio. Add in agitator 5 for a juicy total of +70 raw & 15% affinity. Edit: Rage probably has the best explanation

[@simpleryoma]

@@hazyviper4612 i heard that Mail of Hellfire Actually gives 35 raw at lvl 3 not 25. I keep hearing that its 35 not 25

[@raidchaser443]

Attempting LBG rapid build featuring dragonheart lv5,resuscitate lv3,mail of hellfire lv3,normal up lv3,rapid fire lv3, ammo up lv3,Coalescence lv2(status wears off...+15 attack). Defense lv7 to cancel out loss of DEF...using Kamura lbg. 35 to damage with mail of hellfire 3,not 25.(+50 damage with powercharm/talon pair.)

[@josephdacsil2048]

So I might have to add some defense boost gems to it? It looks good. I wonder if it'll synergize well with it's Scorned Magnamalo gunlance.

[@MaddixCuhming]

Man inmagine if shara ish Vala with the enlightenment Buddha. Wished they did do a better remake on ibushi and narwa they have to be blue and orange

[@jinnn371]

Ayo bro where are the weapons workshops for sunbreak?

[@endbosseleven8907]

The most dangerous skill Lance main: Hold my beer

[@kiaburr94]

Honestly the elemental res. down is gonna hurt more than the defense down. Seems like a pretty awesome skill though!

[@canucks1988]

I am far more interested in trying this skill than Deriliction , especially if i can offset the defense loss with defense boost level 7

[@NH-bn8xn]

Chain crit and foray are available on charms

[@Arius_Astronomy]

From what I understand maxing out the defense skill pretty much balances out the defense and resistance debuffs so there is that.

[@user-hv6nl3cz1z]

The raw atk sucks...... 25 atk is nothing A 10% atk boost gives you more dmg then that without reducing your defense % is the way to go in mr

[@simpleryoma]

From what I heard its actually 35 not 25. But thats what I've been hearing.

[@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash]

how many pieces do you need for 25 atk? 7 attack decos is a pretty huge investment dereliction 1/3 + blue scroll is the skill to have in rise - pretty bad if hellfire needs more than 1 since its mutually exclusive with dereliction due to scroll requirements anyway

[@user-hv6nl3cz1z]

@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash heroics is a thing too Or demon drugs and increased duration 3

[@simpleryoma]

@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash I think Mail of Hellfire comes down to preference because tbh. I would rather use the grudge Armor set over the dereliction set. Thats just me. Because the -100 def can easily be canceled out with def and considering lvl 4 deco def gives 5 lvls of defense boost its pretty nice.

[@light819]

Sets like the furious rajang one are interesting and fun but setd like this are kind of the opposite instead of being all about using skill swap it's all about finding one that fits your weapon more and then just sticking to that one for the whole hunt

[@devxved]

Craft defense tier 4++ and defense tier 3 jewels, the armor has space for it, I forget if you need tier 1 defense decos, I don't think it even has tier 1 slots, but this may mitigate some issue with wearing it. I won't be even with those though, however tier 4 hellfire blight jewels are great.

[@nyxxose]

Somebody once said: “With great power comes great responsibility”

[@RujinFujin]

How is the penalty on Shields?

[@jflondres00]

How about mailmof hellfire with dragonheart to offset the resistance?

[@RuiNDieM1988]

Most monsters have little or no elemental attacks so the elemental resistance debuff is hardly ever a problem

[@escadora2206]

Gaismagorm Aor is my personal favorite in terms of looks. Its very unique. Tho seregios is one of my fav monsters so im wearing seregios armor

[@KaijuAlert]

This is a cool idea for a skill but really, +25 attack for -100 defence is a bad trade, +20 element for -50 resistance is perhaps an even worse trade. These offer too little while taking too much and Dereliction is simply better.

[@profAlpha153]

The point here that, if video is correct, we got +25 plain attack or +20% element. I mean, percent is cooler, no? Anyway, +25 plain attack feeling underwhelming either way

[@joegarcia4550]

I ended creating some weird build for long sword it's the gore magala armor skill with the resentment skill and I didn't realize they work in synergy 😂 one gives me attack and eats my health 2 the red health gives me more attack I love rise for this I never did crazy builds for world but this game 🎉

[@freakindamnshiki]

so you're telling me i can use this on a lance, try to weasel guard up into it and run with it?

[@mehoyminoy3377]

OK pardon my ignorance but what monster hunter theme is in the background of this video? Like I totally recognize it and I think it’s from world/ice born. but like my brain cant for some reason.

[@Cricket-Jam]

Rotten Vale

[@DeadlockDrago]

I'm not a fan of this skill personally. One of the things this expansion introduced IS the switch skill system, but this and dereliction seem to discourage actively switching. They'd rather you stay in the mode you're building for than **Switch** between the 2. They're strong otherwise, and their drawback is fair, I would rather just swap between my skills and not be penalized for it.

[@rainbowkrampus]

Yep. That and I've already trained my brain to open hunts with red scroll but keep my bread and butter skills on blue scroll. Also, what about weapons with no element? Congrats! You swapped skills so now you have no buff at all! I don't think the idea is bad in and of itself but it feels like the team working on switch skills was not in communication with the team working on armor skills at all.

[@epsilon1372]

well tbf, you can swap between elemental/status and raw/stun builds which, as a sns main, actually fits the weapon really well. as for other weapons, I cannot say

[@redneck13265]

I enjoy the full set of this, but im thinking about of either going back to a mix or messing around with a new set i just got. I have to agree with the armor looking amazing and its definitely better looking than the normal magnamalo sets by far and the weapons also look nice as well. i managed to get the full set from scorned magnamalo after just 4 or 5 hunts and i have maxed 3 of his weapons. swaxe, gs and sns. Also my favorite set for looks is the guild palace set but with the MR Barioth helm. looks so good.

[@maulbears]

Call to action algorithm booster response.

[@arvinravena3013]

Wait a sec then shouldnt it synergize with the royal LBG/HBG

[@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash]

2:05 bruh -50 elemental defense will mean you will LITERALLY get 1 shot by every elemental monster attack raw version looks great but elemental is a huge meme

[@Jaycan]

The set looks incredible, but the scrolls are the opposite of what many other skills that use scrolls are. This makes it hard to mix with since the scrolls are opposite... hmmmmm

[@makie128]

So the elemental resistance debuff is nothing when you fight monsters that deals no elemental attacks? Like Seregios, Tigrex, and Diablos. Anyone tested this?

[@Mirage7uae]

Moxie dango never works with me , even if i die the rewards decreases, anyone knows what am doing wrong ?

[@ogelpeace4610]

Can’t wait to get to MR 100

[@MiaWallaceTV]

Are you sure with +25 Attack, did someone do the testing? I read that it might be +35 attack (Lvl 3 Red Scroll) - I'm not MR100 yet, so I can't do the test...

[@TheAnaz41745]

Lv1 : 15 Raw Lv2 : 25 Raw Lv3 : 35 Raw The element increase is only substantial at lv3 which is a 1.2x modifier to your weapon base element stats

[@KomalaUsedYeet]

Bazel X is mt favorite armor this DLC. not that big a fan of a helmet. but thats okay because i use the "benevolent bandage" from the steam store anyway

[@porcco2596]

i mean you can also just pack some dust and drink to boost your defence and youre set.

[@UnicornChicken.]

Clearly the female Sailor set is the best armor because it has the striped white and blue panties.

[@coychocobo3642]

Eh... with so little options of good lvl4 decos atm (what with the inevitable powercreep from timegated post launch stuff), just slap hard defense++4 on a lvl4 slot to offset the whole shenanigan. Still getting 700+ defense outside of the "obligatory" crit skills, mastery deco & attack 4 on most of my sets. Honestly would've loved some extra jank stuff like stacking this with dereliction but their bonuses as is contradicts each other.....

[@klissattack]

I'm currently wearing full regular Magnomalo but I think I might try this once i hit 100 (if I ever do lol)

[@Xephez]

Cool skill, but it seems more useful for Elemental than raw though

[@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash]

you will literally die everytime you get touched if you have -50 elemental def as seen at 2:05

[@charlesbussey8997]

Hey I look to you guys content for all of my MH experience, can you guys give a IG and Bow breakdown mostly bow I’ve been struggling making a mixed set for them

[@HunterForHire422]

I just got the set cause it looked amazing. I like how weird it is skill wise.

[@stay60feetawayfromme33]

Seems like the kinda skill I might use just 1 point of

[@Keonte255]

I rock it with a hunting horn that has a defense song 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DaniBearID8]

Seregios is my personal favourite.

[@hollowguy]

I think i got it on a talisman but it could be the other heckfire skill

[@Kaito-fk6cj]

ah yes I love how every MH channel uploads the same exact thing every single day.

[@joaoaraujo9629]

Interesting.... Learning the monsters patterns is the way of the samurai xD

[@tzera_rhuon]

If the goal is to not get hit, add peak performance as well 🤪

[@ultimacare33]

It's 35 not 25

[@ivanflores7583]

ss4 is the best i did ir using ludroth head and rajang armor and believe me it glows

[@Vertical8]

Which game is better. Monster hunter world or rise? I play on ps5

[@cruzerion]

If you play on PS5 you only have World to choose from regardless. I personally think World is the better 'monster hunter' game, because it nailed the feeling I'm looking for in the series. Rise is a really good arcade-y action game and I'm enjoying my time with it, but it completely misses the mark when it comes to making the monsters feel dangerous or special

[@parishharris819]

I think I got a no slot mail of hell fire talisman the other day, could be having a moment though Edit - I was in fact having a moment and it was cloak of helpful, not mail

[@VenganceAngel19]

honestly find this easier to use than archfiends hp drain

[@SadekMerchant]

As a tank main, is there any set that does the opposite of this? I just wanna stand in front of the toughest monsters whilst I eat a sandwich.

[@cruzerion]

Furious kinda does that. It doesn't penalize your attack and takes a while to get going, but once active it gives +30 Def and +20 to all resistances at level 3 as long as you stay in red scroll. Unfortunately it's spread between 3 pieces of gear with otherwise mostly offensive abilities. As a fun bonus if you're playing lance for a tank with furious build, you can put the normal charge on the blue scroll run at race car speeds for 90 seconds after consuming the furious buff

[@bluuangel004]

Best-looking has got to be that armor that looks like an admiral from One Piece. 😁

[@kalynbinder5624]

Hmmm . I don't think the elemental is too worth it vs. Dereliction .

[@sanjaeharris5352]

Element cb am I a joke to you

[@kalynbinder5624]

@@sanjaeharris5352 No I mean the skill . Elemental is God tier in sunbreak lol

[@Vegimite-Butter-Sandwich]

so glad we're getting our money's worth just saying

[@el_Cabi]

Bnahabra Set is the best looking dont @ me

[@Paeddl]

I love the design of scorned armor escept for the floating swords, i hope we get a mod that removes them

[@nellyps3]

So basically your a glass canon

[@Turkenberglol]

Malzeno gear looks the best imo, full malzeno with teostra chest is the best looking armor ive seen yet

[@Crembaw]

This simply doesn’t seem worth using with Greatsword, I dunno.

[@maggie6152]

Holy hell Scorned Magna is an ugly, overdesigned abomination. Frontier monster designers be up to their usual tricks in sunbreak!

[@Inhale_Burrito]

Rise!

[@NaliaDanger]

This is definitely not the skill for me. I get hit way too much lol.

[@ohitsyang]

Goss is Boss

[@tytanos3560]

Best armor is for female seregios

[@sayonarakid]

Its really one of the sets I use and I think its one of the most beautiful. But I imagine that no one really likes it. Or any armor at all... Like, playing online 4 of every 5 people you find is using a female character without armor and hentai voice (and piercing lbg). So commom that the other 3 players looks exactly the same, just with different hair colors. Not only everybody is so thirsty but has zero creativity.

[@avaman1993]

I mean... this is shit. If both the effects had taken place at the same time then it would have been a decent skill for an elemental glass cannon build. Let's say weapons were both raw and element compliment each other like the SA.

[@vonix9199]

i dont like the looks of the armor, my weapon just always clips through the cape and it completely destroys the asthetics for me

[@emperorsaibot3898]

Cry more

[@vonix9199]

@@emperorsaibot3898 no I just don't use it

[@functionatthejunction]

And I would wear this suicide armor over a 7 max attack bonus set why again? For less attack in exchange for 100 def lose? lol yeah right. And I think this set looks awful. The floating sword are cool but it doesnt look samurai. It looks like some sort of ugly Mongolian armor.

[@JanusHoW]

The hope is that there will be decorations for this skill in a future Title Update. Then you could potentially have both Attack Boost 7 and Mail of Hellfire 3.

[@ThunderChanter]

I said this on another channel, but I DONT like how many things are dependent on using the Scroll system. It feels like the devs are saying "We dont know how to make this appeal to players, so lets just stack as much as we can to MAKE them use it" and Im worried thats gonna turn into a mess with later title updates

[@MrCrypto137]

It was the same with the Clutch Claw in Iceborne but this time you are not really forced to use it. There are plenty of armor options that ignore the swap system.

[@penguinvader7057]

my problem is the polar opposite of that. I WANT to use switch skill swap but dereliction punishes you for doing it, so I can't use the main new mechanic of the expansion without sacrificing damage

[@Kryto_Gaming]

I feel like it's the opposite. There are too many skills that are X or Y depending on Red or Blue scroll, which discourages swapping. I'm actually a fan of unique skills like Redirection that changes your playstyle and encourages you to swap.

[@Kryto_Gaming]

@@LloydTheZephyrian Dereliction is one of the worst culprits because swapping makes you eat your Qurio, reseting the power of your buffs.