Monster Hunter Wilds "Bow & Longsword Too Easy & Overpowered", Major Lance REWORK Coming

[@ArekkzGaming]

Hey everyone, thanks so much for all the comments on the video! We wanted to take a moment to clarify a few points that came up in the discussion. First, regarding speedrun rankings. While they’re not the ultimate measure of how a weapon should be balanced, as they focus on specific, optimized runs that a majority of the player base won’t experience, they’re still one of the best metrics we have unless or until Capcom releases broader player data. On the topic of the Long Sword, when we mentioned “haters,” we were specifically referring to individuals engaging in online discourse with the intent to target and harass others, not those offering general and constructive criticism about the weapon. Constructive feedback is always valid and welcome! We also pointed out that there are a few aspects of the Long Sword that feel slightly overtuned compared to other weapons, particularly its ease of use and hyper armor mechanics. That said, we understand the concerns raised about the “ease of use” argument. While the Long Sword has certainly become easier to use over the years, other weapons in Wilds such as the Bow, Gunlance, and others with counter-heavy playstyles offer similar ease-of-use benefits. For example, the Gunlance can output insane burst damage and has a cancelable guard point reload from most moves. Comparing the two, the Long Sword’s counters require at least some gauge to perform, whereas the Gunlance can achieve similar results by simply reloading and guarding. We hope this clears up any confusion and provides more context! As always, we appreciate the feedback and discussion. it’s a big part of what makes the community great. Thanks again for watching and sharing your thoughts!

[@zrevi5918]

Bow would be the better comparison as Gunlance firstly doesnt have the mobility. Its not cancelable guard but an easily accessible guard. And Gunlance attacks are a bit on the slow side, the wyvern burst fire(i think thats the name) has a very long uncancellable animation. Bows on the other side doesnt really have any drawbacks beside stamina management which is now a lot easier because of the perfect dodge(dont know the name). And its pretty much the same with sword gauge management

[@ArekkzGaming]

The Gunlance also has notable mobility through its moving Wide Sweep. By "cancelable," we’re specifically referring to the ability to transition into it from other moves, not the guard itself. Additionally, after executing a Perfect Guard with the Gunlance, you gain access to a much faster Wyvernfire giving it huge damage. The Gunlance in wilds is not slow at all when outputting damage You can see examples of this stuff in action here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5-YdGCqpc2rmNU

[@zrevi5918]

@@ArekkzGaming well if thats what you mean to "cancelable" then thats alright. I think there's just a better term to it rather than "cancelable". On mobility, it's not like it's a light weapon where it can run and roll. Yes, it's more mobile because of attack but because it's an attack it is still a lot more vulnerable than light weapons. Slow as in long animations. Honestly this changes are long due. Gunlance for me is one of the most difficult weapons to learn. It has a big ass shield but pretty much relies on sidestep and hops. These changes made it so that you still get the mobility but get to use the shield.

[@Tom-sq2yy]

@@ArekkzGaming Oh god that gunlance video is insane in the membrane. Now i want to play it again!

[@Zilchness]

Poll on uplift removal please 🙏 😢

[@LancerNobu]

Lance in Wilds had several smaller problems here and there that made it if feel akward to use and need to be adressed -> Mobility nerfed, so it was really slow (mainly guard advance+leaping thrust and the charge run) -> a lot of moves had way more animation commitment now -> some counters like follow up rush and payback thrust felt akward to use -> some balancing issues between different Lance moves (perfect guard not having as much of an reward as powerguard) -> pertty much no new/returning flashy moves ( A new version of clutchclaw counter or corkscrew jab for example) -> the damage/hunt times being overall really bad compared to other weapons. However i think lance has a more overarching problem with weapon identity. Other weapons got way better at countering/guarding (some arguably better than lance). Focus mode makes every weapon better at preccission. And a lot of other weapons can now play pretty much as aggressivly as lance can (especiall with lance's nerfed gap closing tools) Every weapon needs a unique theme: GL=explosions, HH=songs, GS=big single hits, IG=aerial combat...etc And while lance still has a theme, it's just no longer unique, which is why i really hoped/hope they will add something new on top of lances counter/stand your ground playstlye for lance's kit to focus around Still think drill attacks would have been a great new gimick for lance. It already had them: aerial lance's attack, corckscrew jab or drill running into a monster that is on the ground...etc. They could easily be implemented without being to intrsusive to lance's current way of playing. And they have a "coolness" factor which makes them stick out and makes it easier for people to start associating Lance with drilling attacks. Heck for most lance's it would acutally be easy to give them an actual spinning animation, by just spinning eveything except for the hilt or spinning just the tip of the lance

[@JE-nf2gd]

Eh I kinda like lance because it's a very down to earth and practical weapon, in both its animations and aesthetic (depending on which lance ofc). Drill attacks would just be too fancy for my taste, feels like some switchaxe/chargeblade shit. I definitely liked lances position in world as the weapon with the most spammable counterattacks, but with everyone getting them you're right that it is making lance feel less unique. I kinda wish other weapons counters were more limited in some way tbh.

[@MysticDragonForce]

I LOVE the idea of drill attacks for lance. Maybe giving flat extra damage or even extra damage for partbreaker as standard! And: GIVE US BACK COUNTER-THRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@juanO64yoshi]

It would be pretty funny if Lance's thing was REALLY long range. Like a substantial buff in hitbox length. (Tbh I would like this since sometimes the model is bigger than the hitbox )

[@LancerNobu]

@@juanO64yoshi corkscrew jab was amazing

[@JoeNokers]

I really liked rise giving damage buffs as you countered the monster. Maybe more rewards for consistent damage output and getting counters.

[@DashXero]

The friendly fire changes won't affect me negatively at all. I play Sword & Shield. You need an act of god and MALICE IN YOUR HEART to interrupt somebody else's combos with SnS. It'll be nice not to be interrupted by LS, DB, IG, Hammer, GS, and pretty much everything else for a change. Changes I'd like to see for Sword & Shield: 1.) Bring back the ability to change direction when backhopping from a roll. 2.) Fix the transition between Spinning Reaper or Roundslash and the Backhop. 3.) If removing the Upswing Bash is a no-go, at the very least, save the guaranteed flinch for the followup. 4.) If the last hit of Perfect Rush must always go in the direction you're holding the stick, just make the entirety of Perfect Rush go in the direction you're holding the stick. (It's really awkward to have to yaw most of the combo and then the final hit whiffs because you didn't change the direction of the stick at the last moment. It was a weird choice). 5.) We need some kind of feedback on multi-stage moves like the slope Sliding Slash and the Sehkret dismount attack (though, I suspect this will be fixed along with hit stop). 6.) This is a pie-in-the-sky wish: I'd like to be able to see decent numbers on my attacks well before the mid-to-late game.

[@skelint]

i also play sns, and i think the thing i missed the most was the ability to use the slinger without sheathing. it felt so unique in world and i really miss it.

[@DashXero]

@skelint that was actually possible in the Wilds beta. They messed up the button configuration for it. The fire button for the slinger while the weapon was drawn was changed to L3. It felt every bit as dumb to use as it sounds.

[@skelint]

@@DashXero WHAAAT!!! i wish i knew that!!

[@mechamahou8467]

Finally. Someone not pretending to be a tryhard who wants to be constantly tripped by other players for "mUh iMmErsIon". 😂

[@nb_chu]

Friendly fire can be funny yet disrupting. However I still see it as a realistic pov to have regardless.

[@KrauserII]

Yep, that's exactly my same thought. That feeling of needing to time your attacks and correct positioning to prevent flinches from friendly fire really adds to immersive experience of the game.

[@IainG10]

It can be funny with friends or those rare unicorn blueberries you somehow just vibe with. It can be immensely frustrating when you have some selfish ass-hat with main-character syndrome taking up the best DPS spots with low-damage-but-rapid attack spam (and I finally got round to beating proper Icebourne Alatreon, so I'm VERY familiar with ass-hats wasting everyone's time).

[@josefarias1119]

They removed it cuz they realized that newer playerbase is too egoistical to care about not hitting other players.

[@theformation3781]

Its a bit weird to look at speedrun times for saying a weapon is not overtuned, because speedrunners use the full potential of a weapon and what needs to be adjusted for a weapon is usually adequate skill floors and ceilings. Overtuned can both mean a weapon had a really low skill floor for the damage it does as well as it having absurd damage when you hit the skill ceiling. Sure, the charge blade is "stronger" than the longsword if you consider the damage output of their skill ceilings, but it is pretty well understood that for the skill floor of the longsword being as low as it is, the damage and safety afforded to the weapon is disproportionate and there, in wilds, exist very little risk in the weapon. Rolling out of helmbreaker or being able to foresight slash out of random situations is bad, actually, and so is the ease of spirit gauge level ups, in the same vein that in rise incentivised foresight slash above everything to the extent that spirit combo ans other attack strings were highly suboptimal for damage. A weapon is a collection of mechanics for checks and balances, and LS has been since GU falling into this weird feedback loop, probably because people liked valor LS and wanted more of that. I think world LS was fine ans they should return to that, but most things past that have been a tad overmuch especially since weapons like hunting horn and gunlance (formerly) have had much higher skill floors and nowhere near the same damage or safety, and the lance, probably as complex as the LS, is in the same category. You *can* buff the hunters into oblivion but then you get the rise issue of most fights being super boring and piss easy (visual spectacles sure, especially narwa/ primalzeno/ amatsu, but challenging fights were only hazard risen shagaru and valstrax which just had huge numbers and ridiculous combos) or even the alatreon issue where the fight isn't insanely hard so they added escaton to drive the difficulty up in a weird artifical manner (it's my top 1 fight along with raging brachy but forcing people to use element in a game with that bad element sets was a decision alright). Hunters need to be weak enough for the monsters to be appropriately strong but still remain within human reaction times.

[@thadbanks7345]

But why is it not okay to have weapons with lower skill ceilings. Greatsword exists. It’s not like ls or bow had that high of a skill willing to begin with. Neither does lance really.

[@Vexal50]

@@thadbanks7345 its fully okay to have weapons with a lower skill ceilings and floors, but only to a point. To use the LS as an example, its skill floor dropped to a dramatically low floor due to how forgiving its counters were while also feeding into its game loop so well that it made the spirit combo more or less pointless outside of a handful of monsters. It's skill floor and ceiling has also only been getting lower with each game since the counters are becoming more and more lenient. Reminder that in GU, which was the first time LS had a proper counter in a main MH title, the counters were more akin to CB's guard points where you actually needed to time it with the attack, and you couldn't do it in the middle of a spirit combo either since it was tied to the first spirit slash. It was a tight timing but very rewarding. In Wilds's beta however, the backstep counter is so forgiving that you have until you start moving forward to trigger the counter. LS also has a lot of.....design problems honestly. On top of the Spirit Combo having largely been more or less redundant ever since World, all the fancy stuff you get in red mode that was added in Wilds? Literally useless, solely because the Helmsplitter > Spirit Release combo doing so much damage that not doing it ASAP is a damage loss, both at low and high levels of play, and because of super armor you didn't even have to worry about eating hits either.

[@LordOfAsshes]

Sane balance arguing player! I love to see every one of you ❤ So tired of people speaking from low skill, favoritism or straight nihilism to balance "in not-PvP game" 🤢 I told that same sentences you said to many hunter way to many times to even count... Sadly, their votes and voices count as high, as someone like you, so I'm always on edge after beta feedback session - some very dumb things can occur due to the necessity for Capcom to really sell this game for every player possible.

[@theformation3781]

@@thadbanks7345 lance is a great example actually, and I did want to include it but original comment's already too long. It has innate clunkiness of use (the hops and walk speed) and it innately has a lower damage ceiling than the longsword by a wide margin. It is easy to use, but that ease comes with a cost of it not having a lot of damage, good single hit moves, and pretty mediocre speed. If it had the LS level payout for it's ease of use (see striker lance from GU) I'd take issue with it as well. I don't want weapons to be op OR bad, I want the skill required to use a weapon to match the reward appropriately, but in a way that even the lowest damage ceiling isn't too far behind the highest skill ceiling (I'd say like 3+ minute time differences in speedruns/5 minute in okay to good player hunts) because this is a PVE game after all. As for the bow, yes it has been incredibly strong and out of tune since a while actually and that is also an issue, I'm talking LS because that is what the most played weapon is. So is the LBG and especially the HBG for that matter actually, in fact the HBG is usually my personal selection for weapons that need to be nerfed. Speaking of GS, I think unless it's a draw slash build it's usually fairly hard to use just due to positional awareness necessary to do anything with it, and a niche build being good and easy is cool I guess.

[@thadbanks7345]

So what would be the way you’d balance ls. Out of genuine curiosity. Like just a general damage nerf or tighter counter windows or would you just buff other weapons to even out. I ask cuz for me it’s always been a bout the moveset and combat flow and how it looks. It’s why I like gs, switch axe, and ls. Like if they do nerf ls by just taking its damage down im fine with that, it could literally be the worst weapon in the game and id still play it. Because it feels cool and fun to use.i just dont want the nerfs to be in the form of either taking moves away or making them unusable. And capcom has sort of a bad track record with overcompensating

[@themccman]

Hoping we get a new trailer tonight at the game awards! Crazy that wilds was announced at it a year ago and now we’re so close to launch!

[@YouDrinkWater115]

LANCE PLAYERS UNITE

[@Ravenheit]

The 9 of us

[@h.huseyinergun7520]

​@@Ravenheit Greg died last week we are 8 now

[@jeffhounsell4621]

@@h.huseyinergun7520 Hi I took Greg's place, to keep us at an even 9.

[@YouDrinkWater115]

@@h.huseyinergun7520 the 8 of us can hold the line!

[@gringothegamer]

Damn RIP Greg. I'll always remember his 2nd pokes.

[@AnimeIntrospective]

Good, im a bow main, dont touch that kit lol. Thats the most fun ive ever had with bow. The damage was a bit too much though.. crazy jump in damage from world. And i wonder what they could tweak about the lance. It was fun when i played it, damage didnt seem that lacking either.

[@agentmaine8126]

I actually liked the damage jump, the worlds and Rise Bow felt worthless. In solo runs

[@daviddiaz8339]

@@agentmaine8126 Bow shredded through everything in Rise

[@foremanhaste5464]

Bow being able to hog all of the wounds super easy feels like an issue too. Some weapons lose a lot of power if they can't pop the odd wound. Looking at you SA, CB, and IG. Letting a weapon just eat them all with ease from range feels kind of gross from a teamplay prospective.

[@mr.cobbweb1624]

The only issue I have with Wild's Longsword in beta was how incredibly safe it became because of the removal of the commitment in some of the weapon's moves which means Longsword can Foresight Slash or Iai Spirit Slash in more occasions. I personaly don't mind that much that you can opt out of Helmbreaker mid air and conserve your spirit level and avoid an attack that would've landed because of endlag... on it's own, not taking into account the previous stated issue I had with Wild's beta version. I've also heard people having issues with Spirit Realease's hyperarmor and Spirit Charge but I do not mind those at all and mostly like their implementation. The only change I'd give to Wild's beta Longsword is adding back some of the commitment some fo the weapon's moves had, nothing more. The damage is good without it being ridiculous like beta Bow's or Longsword's previous incarnations in Worldborne and Risebreak and the unique moves added here are pretty good, I do not wish them to either nerf the damage numbers or severely nerf the new moves. Also, the only significant change I'd give the beta Lance would be returning the Counter Thrust back to how it used to since I think a dynamic of using either Counter Thrust to keep the flow or Perfect Guard into Payback Thrust for bigger openings and burst dps would be great (and maybe that way making mid thrust and high thrust variations of the Triple Thrust finisher instead of it being a mid thrust finisher). Also, maybe slightly speed up the weapon a lil bit, just a tiny bitsi bit to match it's speed to previous incarnations (to be specific, reduce the end lag of most of the attacks a bit).

[@LucidOrdinance]

Honestly I'm a bit worried as a long time Lance player. It already felt really good to me. Doing away with counter thrust to be able to interrupt almost any attack with guarding followed by a shield bash encounter thrust animation along with being able to reposition with every light thrust felt like a dream. Being able to kite an entire doshaguma pack and live thanks to these changes felt amazing. I really hope they don't take that away.

[@schmuckford]

Fellow lance main, I very much missed counter thrust as it was in World. It felt like they essentially replaced counter thrust with a faster version of insta-block from Rise, which I was not a fan of. The ability to punish a monster's attack requiring precise timing with your guard did not feel like the added skill requirement was being properly rewarded imo. It felt like a nerf compared to counter thrust which gives you a much longer window to punish the monster, and with lance already being one of if not the least played weapon it didn't feel like a deserved nerf. If we had the ability to both insta-block punish with a more damaging attack in addition to the classic counter thrust, that would be ideal for me at least.

[@baconx6476]

Why would they take that away, they're gonna buff the weapon, not nerf it.

[@ator181]

the guarding mid combo was pretty alright, but it felt more like I was just covering for a mistake by doing so, since it would mean I failed to get through my pokes to charged counter. would have preferred if charged counter just got the same input as counter thrust and could be used after any attack like counter thrust. the mobility in the pokes is also really good but I kinda preferred the feel of guard dash leaping thrust.

[@LucidOrdinance]

Fair points all. perhaps i was too enamored in being caught up in the new lance paradigm to see its faults. I can see where you guys are coming from.

[@MysticDragonForce]

@@LucidOrdinance We've had counter thrist since.... Tri i think? It feels so weird without it :(

[@TemporaryINTER135]

I really hope Lance leans more heavily into guarding and pulling off perfect guards, like more reflect damage or damage to counter attacks while guarding It kinda sucked before where optimal play was evade lance cuz why have a shield at all if you're just stack evade instead

[@foremanhaste5464]

If lance gameplay revolves around reflect and counter effects, it will then need a taunt effect or be left in the dust during multiplayer.

[@TrippyTigre]

I don't mind friendly fire that is helpful even if disruptive. A hammer knockup can lead to a mid-fight mount that wouldn't have happened otherwise and will result in damage regardless. The bad is when I'm mid combo/charge and my weeb friends 20 ft longsword is digging into my ankles like a shopping cart.

[@sazo1st]

Yeah I feel they could have locked launching protection behind flinch free lvl2 or something like that

[@mgmmj6664]

I hope you get hbg users in your lobby everytime to send you flying with cluster bombs every time the monster is down 😂

[@sazo1st]

@@mgmmj6664 I mean yeah they're way way rarer

[@mechamahou8467]

​@@sazo1stHBG is one of the most popular weapons. I'm going to intentionally use wyvern fire and clusters full-time if they add friendly fire back to the game 😂. So sick of the tryhards trying to gatekeep the games most terrible, unused mechanics. Literally everyone in World just slotted flinch free to entirely avoid the entire system, because it sucked. If an annoyance exists in the game solely to eat into your jewel economy, it's a bad game mechanic.

[@phishfoood]

I'd like the lance to have a higher risk/reward mechanic. Death by a thousand cuts is nice but that's all there is, needs at least one big payoff kind of attack.

[@barbedfungus3877]

I think the main thing that keeps me on World is the fact that not only is every weapon a blast to play at ENDGAME, there's no mechanical difference between endgame and early game so early game is awesome too, cutscenes and all aside. You're able to start fully learning a weapon from the very start, and your options only open up when your eyes sharpen, and your mind quickens. You start thinking "oh I know this attack, if I dodge twice, I can get a Thousand Dragons" (Bow is SUPER fun with stamina and literally any slinger ammo) or "if I stand here, and Wild Swing, I can slinger burst through Ala's rings of fire and hit a Morph Sweep on the head." That one's real btw. It's SO satisfying, even if it's not the most practical. Stand outside the first ring, facing away, do one or two Wild Swings (depending on when the attack starts) slinger burst out of the second ring and Morph Sweep for a cool 1k damage. Usually, 2 or 3 axe slashes will hit but rarely the sword.

[@BIZaGoten]

They should NOT remove friendly fire not only can it be funny but it also promotes teamwork by having to look out for your friends. Also if you don't like it they could make flinch free prevent it from happening.

[@mechamahou8467]

Almost everyone in World ran flinch free, because it was a terrible mechanic that was worth slotting out to not have to interact with. Because it was never "funny" getting hit out of your TCS by a hammer user in Master Class fighting an AT Elder Dragon. If everyone in the game would rather waste gem slots than even deal with the mechanic at _all_ suggests it's just not a good mechanic. And id rather they follow how players actually _play_ than how they _say_ they play. Tryhards will always try to gatekeep.

[@BIZaGoten]

@@mechamahou8467 Getting flung by hammer is a good thing tho, it lets you do an aerial attack and doing a combo together like that with your fellow hunters is cool as hell. I feel like you're the tryhard if you want to optimize your hunt rather than having silly moments occurring. Also slotting to prevent certain things from happening is half the decos in the game I feel like. You don't like mining slowly? you can slot for that? Hate the water when fighting jyura? You can slot for that. Everything that's annoying can be slotted for pretty much. Monster dying too slowly? Slot for damage. you're dying too fast? slot for defense. etc.

[@LusciniaRose]

It will be a shame to see some of the 'friendly fire' moves go as launching a friend into the air always caused a laught. Tripping could be worked on though.

[@Vexal50]

changes I'd like to see to my main weapon types SnS - Buff Perfect Rushes's finisher, but keep the attacks for the first two parts somewhat weak. Don't want World's mistake of making the optimal way to play to be spamming the first two parts of Perfect Rush, but its definitely too weak for the amount of commitment when compared to other moves - Have Shield attacks scale with sharpness and raw again, but make shield attacks consume sharpness on hit like pre-World so we don't end up in a situation like basegame Rise where the shield was better to use than the sword for most matchups. This didn't get addressed until Valstrax and SB DB - Give a small stamina refresh when we get the Demon Dodge buff from the perfect evade similar to Bow. It's in a weird spot where we can't make good use of the buff due to how frequently we are at low stamina upon gaining the buff. - Give us a completely different Focus Strike Capcom. We are the ONLY weapon where our focus strike is entirely dependant on the monster having a long body, and since it doesn't really flinch the monster for the duration of the focus strike the monster moving also has a tendency to cause us to slip off the monster the moment we touch them. And even when the focus strike *does* work, we're placed pretty far away from the monster, a downside only shared with Switch Axe's focus strike LBG - Buff the mines. Since we can only have one mine at a time I thought it'd be made stronger but the mines are pretty weak now. IG - The forward poke when you have the enhanced combo needs to be made faster - Extract spender followup to the charge attack feels a bit too strong, but also feels bad since you often end up with 3 of the same extract. I'd suggest making it so it can't grab duplicates, but make it so you aren't gauranteed to get all 3 back, and then tone down the damage a tad. This would make the move still strong, but also makes it so using it doesn't feel bad while also making positioning actually important. LS - Limit Helmbreaker in some way to prevent Helmbreaker > Spirit Release from overcentralizing the moveset. Whether its putting it on a timer ala Wyvern Fire, or making it so that they no longer spend gauge and you can only do one successful Helmbreaker per red, it needs some sort of limit - Buff the MVs of all the moves with "Crimson" in the name so that they're worth using - Make Spirit Charge slowly drain spirit gauge instead of generate it. The fact you could do the entire spirit combo without doing any attacks before it due to how Spirit Charge works was nonsensical - Buff Spirit Combo's MVs - Make it so counters can only take you up to yellow, so that you have to use the spirit combo properly at least once to enter red. CB - Bring back SAED from neutral - Make SAED consume shield charge if you don't have all 5 phials overcharged. Makes SAED useful again without making it spammy. Big moves should never be spammy.

[@BirdMoose]

I think nerfs need to be less about pure power and more about identity. For me the issue with wilds longsword is by adding a ton of power it killed the combo flow and weapon identity (imo, obviously this is subjective), like being able to enter the I frame counters at any point instead of needing to more carefully considering your combos, same with the infinitely extendable spirit blade combo. Or spirit helm being super safe with hyper armor feels odd for a weapon previously built so heavily on risk reward mechanics. I play some LS, but it's not my main, so I'm okay with it being the strongest, but I want them to preserve the consideration and thought that went into the weapon, even if it gets a lot of cool stuff to make it strong.

[@Vcamo]

am i the only LS main that thinks charge hit to level up gauge is stupid. Its way too boring and if its the best way to spam levels on to the gauge. Not losing gauge when missing counters and helmbreaker being cancelable is also so overkill to make the weapon too safe. I feel that they took the satisfying risk and reward aspects from the weapon. I hope they make the weapon harder to learn but rewarding to master. Lastly i cant speak from new player perspective so i have no idea how they feel about the weapon but to returning LS user the weapon felt overtuned.

[@czairkolmoslink5952]

Lance, I feel like there are a few key problems with the new Lance. First, it is way too slow. I don't mean taking down the monsters slowly. I mean moves that are faster in other games are lower. High Thrust, Guard Dash, and Lealing Thrust are a few. Lance is seen as the lasted Lance of the two Lance weapons. It being slower makes it less likely to be used. Second the travel on moves are shorter like our Hops, Guard Dash, and Lealing Thrust. High Thrust’s finisher move should be easier to access like the counter thrust used to me. I like a mix of Charge Counter and Counter Thrust. I like them both as they have their benefits. Like the risk we get from Charge counter and pay off but the easier access of counter thrust. Maybe make it an Offset. I do think Pack back thrust needs to do more damage and not leap yourself so far forward as it causes more misses than hits. Also give leapi g thrust 3 ticks of damage again Maybe make the shield Bash on the focus attack easier to hit. Add something being flashy as the Lance doesn't have anything that makes it look cool. Like drill effects. Lastly new moves for combos like a Shield charge option after Guard Dash. I have two examples - **Guard Dash** **{R2}:** Guard | |--->**{R2+L+▲}:** Guard Dash | |--->**●:** Leaping Thrust | |--->**▲:** Shield Charge | |--->**●:** Leaping Thrust | |--->**▲:** Shield Bash Or **{R2}:** Guard | |--->**{R2+L+▲}:** Guard Dash | |--->**●:** Leaping Thrust | |--->**▲:** Shield Bash (Press) | |--->**▲:** Shield Charge (Hold) | |--->**▲:** Shield Bash (On Release)

[@camosteve2433]

All 12 Lance players will be happy! 😂

[@baconx6476]

Most basic bitches love LS and other flashy weapon. Lancers are a different breed. They are not the same.

[@CrossingWays]

Myself and the other 11 lance mains for sure will. 😂

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

@@CrossingWays Hell yeah brother

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

Longsword mains getting super defensive in the comments, here's my acknowledgement to you: your weapon was not broken in either of the Gen 5 games, despite idiots like Rurikhan saying otherwise. That doesn't mean it isn't busted in Wilds, which it is, alongside Bow, Charge Blade, and Gunlance. BALANCE MATTERS IN PvE GAMES! Monster Hunter is at its best when it's engaging the player through difficult fights, especially since you'll be spending hundreds and hundreds of hours doing them. If the game is too easy, then a huge portion of it loses its best qualities. "Just buff the monsters instead" is a bad faith argument, because that's way harder on the devs and also would likely lead to the game just becoming obnoxious. It's okay to admit your weapon is broken this time around, and needs some slight adjustments in order to make the game more fun for everyone.

[@Bunnibunnibunni]

Capcom has no idea how to do reasonable nerfs though, so I'd rather they buff the other 8 weapons rather than nerf the ones you mentioned alongside the two others (LBG, HBG) that are always the strongest. Seriously, GL IG and CB were all good in 4u, completely shat on in GU. Prowler "good" in gen, destroyed in GU. Slicing/cluster good in base world, never seen ever again in IB, sticky/slice good in base rise, practically removed in sunbreak. LS in base rise was higher than average for melee weapons (not even the best), stomped on in sunbreak. They aren't built for nerfs :(

[@r6guy]

Why are you in every video complaining abt LS?

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

@@r6guy To balance out the other people complaining about LS just because it's popular. My goal is to offer actual constructive arguments about the weapon as it is in Wilds currently

[@r6guy]

@@michaelmcdonald2005 you offer no constructive arguments, you just have an axe to grind.

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

@@r6guy Sorry you feel that way. I genuinely harbor no ill will towards the weapon, I just think it got over designed in the transition to the sixth gen because it was the most popular

[@luissalinas9143]

I say lance should have a prebuilr in guard. So that when we use guard up we would only need maybe 2 to 3 slots to upgrade to the max rather than 5 for other weapons. I would also increase overall speed dps on the lance or give it a huge damage buff

[@Beagle5793]

I think the important thing to focus on with the LS is more the ease of use than the speedrun times. Like if it's the #4 weapon in the speed run rankings, but it is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to use than CB, there may still be a discrepancy there even if CB technically has faster speedruns right now. I'm not somebody who goes around complaining about literally any weapon in MH, because if somebody else is having fun on a different weapon that's just simply a good thing. However, I can certainly still understand that Capcom might feel that Bow and LS are getting too much baseline value for the effort required, even if they aren't the literal #1 best weapons right now. Bringing the skill floor up a bit on those weapons is probably a good idea.

[@mrcrowe1848]

go to that chart and look at rockfall spam times. if you add those times (which there is no reason why you shouldnt, because rockfall spamming is a legit tactic anyone can do that isn't following some arbitrary ruleset) longsword is suddenly in 10th place for solo rey dau kill times- and you have to do considerably more actual "playing" in a non rockfall spam run which means it's actually harder AND slower

[@darbly6733]

tbh I'm tired of LS getting targeted for everything when it has NEVER been the most op weapon. I don't mind them nerfing the damage numbers, it's just the stuff everybody complains about LS, the being able to counter everything, takes a lot of skill and risk to actually do, you're being rewarded for a high risk playstyle. If I were to change ls, I'd say the hyperarmor on the helmsplitter followup is a bit excessive, but everything else is fine, hell I was getting better hunt times on charge blade without even playing it well. 95% of the people that complain about LS I guarantee don't even play the weapon and don't understand that it's not the easy to use thing they think it is

[@darbly6733]

I don't play multiplayer so not gonna speak on the tripping stuff

[@drypotato6990]

the "hyper armor" for the follow up attack, is actually a good thing, because it makes this move less save for the player. you can still take damage while performing it, means you could die on combos or strong attacks, if you time the follow up poorly. meanwhile, lets say you could get knocked up while doing the combo.. ye you might lose 1 gauge, but the trade for that is being save and get some time to think and escape the next attack of the monster. not getting knocked, makes it riskier instead imo, because you cant cancel this animation.

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

Aside from motion value nerfs, the only thing I want to see on new Longsword is removing the damage reduction on Helmbreaker and the follow up. Keep the hyper armor, whatever, but you shouldn't be taking way less damage on top of that

[@yourdad5799]

Yea the hyper armor in the helm breaker follow-up is fine. It's just like ZSD, yea you can't get hit out it but good luck surviving a multi hit attack

[@mgmmj6664]

every weapon needs skill at high level but some weapons are very easy while still doing good dmg at low level and LS is that weapon< in rise sunbreak LS was so powerful it was possible to clear everything by just spamming sakura slash and sacred sheath lol meanwhile if a player who is not skilled enough at lance or GL they needed 11 skill points in guard stuff I order to play casually

[@ceph_and_seethe]

I've never liked the bow until the wilds beta and that says A LOT

[@TheCosmicAstro-]

They fixed the terrible control scheme and got rid of coatings. That's all it took

[@marcok1183]

LOL bow is disgustingly OP in beta. Unlimited tracers made it the ultimate cheese weapon

[@GodEater015]

Bow has always been top tier.

[@lostcarcosa7642]

@@GodEater015ehhhhhh that's cap but it's always had a decent place on the list of weapons

[@sataniccereal]

@@lostcarcosa7642 all three ranged weapons have consistently been at the top of speed run charts.

[@RawdZiey]

Dont like how quite charge blade has been. Hope they fix the sound and hitstop.

[@sanwell4409]

Even the director its self say longsword easy to use,and finally lance get rework ,FINALLY LANCE GET SOME LOVE !!

[@deadwhitedragon9751]

About the difficulty in pve games, bo6 zombies has a surprisingly good take that boils down to "we started hard so we can patch out the pain points of the difficulty later, without having to nerf the player to compensate"

[@tradsy9200]

i started playing worlds recently and im most likely going to be buying wilds, the game is very addictive

[@foremanhaste5464]

Welcome to the Guild. Try the Honey.

[@OpheliaTeetons]

For lance, Charged counter should be where counter thrust was in world and power guard should be the same input as iceborne. It doesn't make sense that greatsword can use a charged offset whenever, but lance has a non-offset charged counter locked behind a three poke combo. One of lance's advantages in world was that you could counter from neutral state. They need to maintain this and consider making it a charged offset attack just like how greatsword has it.

[@Fazelcp]

Friendly fire with small hitboxes are fun and balanced in my opinion. I agree that you should be aware of the other players and act accordingly. What should be removed is the wide AoE of friendly fire with weapons like the longsword or the Charge Blade. Those are really annoying and you can't really do much to avoid hitting other players even if, and that's rare on top of the problem, try to not hit them...

[@intri8116]

THIS ^ I really enjoy the hunt complexity of taking into account my positioning, not just "Slap monster do damage". I think reducing AoE of weapons like longsword or reducing which moves trigger the friendly fire so it doesn't happen constantly would be a better balance than outright removal. Still, hard to argue that the game becoming mainstream without veteran hunters to teach newbies the etiquette has made random fights far more obnoxious and difficult than necessary because they don't "get" these things (like HEALING yourself ffs)

[@intri8116]

Honestly I just hope they tweak the focus mode controls for weapons. cramps tf out of my hands while trying to fight normally

[@thadbanks7345]

I’m truly never doing to understand why anyone save for maybe a small percentage really Really into it speedrunners(Not even like the average speed runner). Gives a shit when any weapon, besides their own. Is considered “broken” and I’m losing that term loosely . I think if we were being honest part of it is envy. Because whenever it’s their weapon that’s considered strong people always completely pancake. Like if you like a weapon play it. Whether another weapon is stronger really shouldn’t matter. It’s not like the other weapons aren’t also good. They’re just slightly slower to kill. Like if you don’t like ls or bow just don’t play them. It’s what I do with bowguns. Are they strong, yes. But I find them boring to play so I don’t. I just don’t get why it seems to just get some people britches in such a tight knot that some people have stronger weapons, to the point where this much moaning is happening. It comes off as childish at a point.

[@docdragon0796]

I really hope dual blades Y attack speed gets an increase

[@Grinch-Sama]

Charge Blade felt REALLY good. I was an SAED nancy in World so the savage axe is a cool change for me.

[@RichardRae88]

Counter thrust is what took lance from the clunky tank class to the dps uptime god that even dual dagger couldn't compete with, you could eat unbelievable monster moves that would destroy other weapons, but you still needed a modicum of skill and timing to be good at it. Removing it from lance in Wilds was a really big backstep for lance, it essentially made the lance good at nothing again.

[@FLUFFYHAWAIIAN747]

I'm hoping charge counter can be used anytime during a combo, and that counter thrust replaces mid thrust while you're in power guard

[@KeeperOfTheGate02]

I don’t hate LS users, and I can admit that the wilds LS was just *bonkers* fun to play, all I ask is that I don’t get promoted to “spectator mode” the moment a LS joins the lobby.

[@herusetiawan5399]

Imagine you're having hyper armor when launching SAED with CB. That's what happened with Longsword in the Open Beta.

[@skybladebloodheart4247]

Launches are fine knockdowns kind of suck but i wouldn't ever want to get rid of them BRING BACK FRIENDLY FIRE.....

[@killermurad5933]

I don't like the friendly fire changes. I wish people would stop complaining about the power level of the LS. It always feels so stinted on the side of it being "OP" when in the beta and the past two games with people pushing the weapon the hardest it still was at best middle of the pact. I hope it doesn't become another Rise scenario where they just take a lot of damage away. Weirdly enough, I still agree with changing some things about LS, like hyper armor on helm breaker was a bit strange to me. I don't get hyper armor on SAED, and it feels great to trade a big hit with the monster. As someone who actually bothers to play LS, I hope there's a weapon skill or something that allows for a 4th gauge of meter that can't be cashed out via helm breaker. I'd kinda like to see two styles of LS develop where one cashes out and refills meter constantly, and one tries to stay at peak level for as long as possible similar to how there are two styles of CB. Wilds will be fun no matter what though, I am just tired of the constant complaining of LS. It's like these people don't realize SnS back hop exists with the complaints they bring up.

[@Straight2daPoint0]

Monster hunter will always have a place 9n my heart. I've played them all

[@Zilchness]

@arekkzgaming Can you please do a poll about "uplift removal" we need more awareness that the majority of players want to keep this feature

[@coyotekent2267]

Hopefully the Lance feels good to use, I love having a shield, but Charge Blade just isn’t what it used to be man. I’m gonna miss SAED spam so so very much, but Savage Axe just won’t ever give me the dopamine SAED gives me.

[@Leith_Crowther]

I am once again demanding the HBG’s wyvernsnipe.

[@StorytellerWMD]

I have been a bow main since 2015, which is when I first got into the series. Bow has only been getting more and more fun to use with each new game. I am fine with some nerfs so long as it remains fun to use, I will admit it seemed a little too strong in the beta. On that note I do plan to try maining the Charge Blade this time around, but I would still like the bow to be a fun/powerful plan B

[@Cr33pysku11]

I really really hope they change bow so tracer arrows don't give you permanent max charge. Not needing to manage your charge level killed half the weapon's skill ceiling

[@oversol5469]

I would like to see a bigger reward from counter, a buff to the followup attack or the hunter. I didn't like the auto counter feature, and I feel over all the damage could be heavier

[@BrewSir]

I think if they just get rid of the hyper armor for the long sword, I'd be satisfied. Getting rid of the risk/reward balance makes it less engaging. The bow can stay the same just tuned down, but it feels so active and fun to play with the beta mechanics

[@Ladypaaan]

Idk how much powerful the LS is or will be in Wilds, but it got nerfed in Rise when it wasn't that powerful and landing a Iai Slash counter move leaves you at a shit ton of end lag and no options in World. I have no idea why people hate so much on a weapon they mostly never use. I get the annoying interrupting others with spirit slashes, that is a big issue. But overall Rise and World LS recieved hate for no reason. Balance is important, all weapons should feel fun. But wow, people to hate other's weapon of choices before asking for bufs for their own.

[@HeavyMetalLink05]

The ability to flinch people has been more of a 'problem' starting in World because of all the new players to MH, and most of them simply don't care if you're flinching someone, and some people even do it on purpose. I'd be glad to see flnching removed if for no other reason so us LS users get less hate as a result lol

[@Xararion]

Now that insect glaive can be aerial again I just want SAED to be made better for chargeblade since I don't enjoy savage axe mode and I want to have the option to focus on shield and sword with SAED gameplay if I want it, even if it's not optimal, currently it's just griefing.

[@baconx6476]

Tripping was the big issue, not really the launching part, which can be quite fun when you can get the mount or the kill. Also let's fucking go Lance!!!!

[@a.j.abshire5035]

I might finally try lance now, so excited!!

[@k.tucker2011]

Hopefully the changes are to the lance AND the gunlance. I hope the charge blade gets better combos with just using the sword. Also I'm glad friendly fire is getting worked on

[@augustyoung3509]

Bow main here- DO NOT CHANGE THE BOW it’s amazing right now

[@shoot2loot]

Yeah very discouraging hearing already about nerfs...

[@williamingwerson4692]

​@@shoot2loot womp womp

[@augustyoung3509]

@@shoot2loot it felt good, moved well & the damage felt great - most bows I’ve used in games haven’t felt that good in awhile but nonetheless will still be rocking bow this year & duals when I can

[@kazetsune]

If they make the right adjustments to Lance, without going back to its stagnant state in previous games, I will stick with it. If they go back, I'll be maining another weapon for the very first time. Most likely switch axe.

[@Tory-JJ]

I am a simple insect glaive enjoyer. I care not for anything else. Playing mh since mhw. I enjoy it a lot. Little bug giving me funny color.

[@idknemore]

Realistically I just want to keep the launching mechanics of weapons. It sucks to be stun locked by other players but it's enjoyable to be launched into the air and possibly get a mounting attack from it. You only get launched a handful of times but are basically guaranteed to get stun locked by almost every hunt at some point.

[@big-backjack3564]

I've always been a GS main but then played IG and HBG in MH4U. I want to main S&S in this upcoming game because if it is anything like Captain America's shield, then I'll want to take advantage of that. Plus, blocking with GS reduces its sharpness and it isn't as reliable as S&S, I think.

[@mrcrowe1848]

that comment about longsword being "overpowered" is 100% because of that ratatoskr longsword hate engagement bait video. nevermind the fact that it was 10th in solo rey dau kill times and only barely beat out the hammer and the "super weak" insect glaive by mere seconds (if you include rockfall spamming, which you should, because rockfall spamming is a legit tactic anyone can do without an arbitrary ruleset you apply to yourself, and longsword is likely weaker when you aren't actively countering monsters, which you can't do while enemies are being rockfall spammed. longsword is probably the only weapon that LOSES damage when you're not putting yourself in danger)

[@Jackeh47]

if you watched that video and thought it was "LS hate engagement bait" when this guy has played and enjoyed LS for years, idk what to tell you. i don't even like him and agree with many of his points. someone's opinion on how a weapon should function isn't "hate." many weapons gain for countering monster attacks: guardpoints, offset attacks, perfect dodges, perfect guards etc. LS gains a lot more because it's able to cycle its gauge the fastest when countering with ISS. that doesn't mean it's bad. weapons should have different strengths and weaknesses, even if those weaknesses make them worse at speedrunning. speedrun times aren't the be-all end-all to weapon balancing and enjoyment.

[@mrcrowe1848]

@@Jackeh47 "longsword hate engagement bait" is NOT referring to his opinion of the weapon, it's referring to him capitalizing on the community that rabidly consumes any content that can be considered negative about the longsword, with a title asking for a nerf and a thumbnail with a big "I DONT LIKE IT" on there. beyond that, i don't agree with basically any of his points except for the helmbreaker thrust not needing hyper armor. that's a completely unnecessary change that doesn't do anything interesting for the playstyle.

[@mgmmj6664]

LS is so powerful that it can kill things very fast without the need to learn any counter< that was the case in rise sunbreak so any casual can pick up that weapon and have an easy ride while a casual GL/Lance users needed 11 points of tank skills to play casually because guarding is penalised lmao

[@avyntide]

I really can’t help but laugh at the idea that LS is overpowered. The weapon has been in the middle or lower of dps charts for multiple games in a row, and yet the devs keep targeting it with nerfs to its damage specifically, not any other aspect. It’s just a pariah for people who hate the idea of others having fun or getting good clear times in their own way, rather than the ‘correct way’ (ie only X weapon is allowed to get good times). Sad that the devs themselves have fallen into that trap as well. Hopefully modders will pick up the slack when it comes to weapon balance, they’ve had to do it before.

[@Mr.Slaught4r]

As long as they don't touch charge blade, please leave him alone he's perfect. I was praying we'd get as much chainsaw as rise and they responded by making axe mode chainsaw mode permanently, perfection

[@johnbarrett6238]

I really want to play lance for once so I hope they make it a banger!

[@JPStarto]

We need more news about the optimization for low and medium specs pc. We know it got better but how much better on low specs?

[@rezzs4213]

I don't mind the swax release dmg, just the hit box a bit small.

[@gundamseries]

弓は他の武器に比べて強すぎるという感想も分かるけど、「リアルではないし、これはもはや弓ではなく魔法だ」という印象の方が強い あの弓はモンスターハンターの世界観に致命的に合わない MHWsであれをやるなら、ドラゴンズドグマ2のようなファンタジー作品でいいだろうと思う

[@DeviHyuga]

As a Lance, Switch axe, Insect Glaive main. My life was shit during the beta.

[@JustAFishBeingAFish]

This is great. Im hoping buffing weaker weapons means greatsword getting TCS buffed because it was kinda weak.

[@hikurus1764]

Meh honestly, three weaker weapons getting buffs are good. Like Wilds beta lance was so controversial, in a sense of how bad it feels to use, to the point where a famous long term lance main streamer in Japan begged Capcom to buff or bring back certain aspects of the weapon from the previous version in his post beta video. It was just sad to see. The bow nerf, I think, is warranted just because it was way too easy for the dmg output which somewhat reminded me of the blast bow meta in 3G or U depending on localization, and that was a joke in terms of the weapon balancing. I believe that bow being strong is totally good. It's just being easy is really bad for people who loved the cranky-ness of the bow in exchange for the super high dps.

[@abuckethasoccurred]

i loved lance in the beta but i won't complain about it being buffed, it was good and played well but i can see that it did underperform a little damage wise

[@PKshockwave]

I main the Glaive and I loved it in the beta. Definitely needed some tuning, but overall it was very enjoyable. I'm warmkng back up to the bounce being back. Kinda liked it without. As for the alterations to other weapons, I can only say that I want the hyper armor removed from the LS. It’s become too safe to play without any real drawbacks. A weapon that can evade through anything shouldn't be able to tank something Like Rey's railgun to the face.

[@8minato]

I wish longsword had more fun changes rather than powerful changes. I don’t think the added moves make the weapon anymore fun.

[@thadbanks7345]

How does hbg never get caught up in the “weapon to strong pls nerf” wave that comes with literally every new mh game.(and usually ends up not mattering anyway.) Like Hbg has been strong as hell in multiple titles and never caught any flack. It shares a lot of the things people criticize ls for to. Especially ease of use. So is it just a popularity thing? Like I don’t care but it just seems weird that, that weapon always manages to dodge this discussion.

[@madmajek]

Don't really have an opinion until i see the end result for Lance and especially SnS. Hope for the best though.

[@misterhyde2817]

I’m a light bow gun main

[@IKingDracoOo]

Wow, it's a real challenge to be able to use this weapon

[@ubermensch8417]

@@IKingDracoOo lol

[@Bunnibunnibunni]

@@IKingDracoOo as a hammer main ill say its harder than and has more nuance in usage than hammer

[@IKingDracoOo]

@@Bunnibunnibunni I dare to disagree

[@Doubleleylines]

I think bow was majorly bugged in the beta. The arrows being at full charge no matter what and the INFINITE range with tracer arrow

[@shoopydoopy6062]

If the lance gets even stronger than it was in the beta, it is so over for these poor monsters

[@JulianneRegina]

I’ll still play Charge Blade but I didn’t like it. A vast majority of the damage comes from Pizza Cutter / savage axe mode and nothing else. It’s best for the player to charge up as fast as possible and go back to axe mode. I always like fighting with the sword and using SAED, which I think is the weapons biggest identity, was not fun or optimal.

[@rewelmejiaestrella5979]

i feel the hammer to be a little underwhelming in comparisson witht the HH, i mean is about the same damage but the HH have buffs and seems more fun...

[@kultissim]

I think that friendly fire can be fun when playing with friend that can adjust, give the head to the hammerbro, slot something, It help make the preparations for the hunt feel more real etc. But in this day and age MH is mostly played with pickups and it's not so fun anymore, for example my friend in world never use the bow AOE in multiplayers, Other bow users dont care about anything else other than their DEEPEEESS

[@MaximusProxi]

1. Longswords damage output, while still being on the upper end, was mostly fine in my opinion. What needs to be nerfed is being able to go from white to red gauge within one move (under certain circumstances). This will result in helmbreaker spam, which then also has hyper armor, which in my opinion should go, since it already is a relatively safe move and also cancellable now. Yeah overall make the gauge gain a little slower is all I'm asking for. 2. Bow even though dealing good damage, is in my opinion really stressful to play, requiring you to manage coatings which need to be refreshed pretty much every 10 seconds, and keeping tracer up, which is gone after a couple shots already (hitting tracer on the monsters weakpoint can also be tedious when it moves a lot.. hitting the wrong bodypart is an instant dps loss). Then you have to manage your "combo" counter and keep it at level 3 and on top of that watch out for your stamina. So overall for all the effort you have to put in, I think bow deserves to be at the very top of the damage chart, the only thing I would maybe change is the tracer arrow, make it less mandatory by reducing the damage multiplier it gives (should be more of a tool to reliably hit the weekpoint more than anything). Oh and I really hope they are not reducing bows effective range, would kill the "ranger" fantasy and we already had shotgun bow for the past monster hunter games. 3. Lance being at the top of the performance chart/dps chart sounds just wrong to me. A weapon which focuses so much on defense and is so safe to play should never be able to outperform, weapons which are pretty much offense only like db, ls, bow etc. That would be straight out overpowered. 4. As for the launching teammates with your attacks and bombs, I think it should stay in the game how it is, I don't see a real problem with it except from some toxic gamers starting to rage if you accidentally interrupt their dps rotation with a launch. If don't even see why they would take this system out, but leaving flinching in.. either take em both out or leave em both in. The only thing I would add is to disable any kind of launching/flinching/interrupting capabilities, the moment the quest is complete. So people can carve the monster in peace without the risk of a troll potentially robbing them of their loot, either that or make carving uninterruptable by teammates (edit).

[@martir851]

You are so biased and inaccurate

[@MaximusProxi]

@@martir851 thanks for giving constructive feedback with examples of what you mean.

[@martir851]

@@MaximusProxi allright, let's go - Bow and LS are objectively way way above the average, and it's not even close. Not only they have forgiving animations which don't make you have to commit to much or deep... Their DPS is far ahead. By average gamer standards, they are "S+" tier. - You are bringing up the Lance's times in speedruns... which is just wrong. Those speedrun times are in beta builds, without any skills, without element, and against a very specific monster. Many weapons scale a lot with specific skills, for instance. Lance, IG and Switchaxe being reported by many, the weakest weapons.

[@MaximusProxi]

@@martir851 I still don't see how I am biased and inaccurate... I never said I wasn't okay seeing lance getting a dps increase and some new skills to get better times.. Only thing I said was it would be silly seeing it above other weapons which lack the defensive part lance brings. And yes you said it yourself, we can't rely on current dps times because we don't have the full picture yet.. why then nerf the weapons you said were S+ tier weapons before knowing how good they actually are in the full game? Pretty inaccurate statment if you ask me. I just simply pointed out what I think are the major gameplay flaws of those weapons.

[@pioneershark2230]

@@martir851 only the bow's DPS is ahead, the LS is kinda middle of the road, GS and GL are the ones that are doing well rn.

[@danny3120]

I'm sure the sentiments will shift when High/Master level monsters start one shotting the squishier weapons.

[@philiyo99]

I hope they change the charge blade combos , saed combo felt so weird in the beta . Pls bring bang the og combo capcom

[@osogitzgraymane72]

Intentional friendly fire as a teamwork: I'm ok with Friendly Fire due to carelessness: I am not ok with Due to the longsword tripping issue, i stopped playing melee for a long time. Then when I finally got the single flinch free gem I needed, i picked charge blade back up. I still dont like that I have to waste a slot on flinch free because of careless longsword users however, i recognize that sometimes the monster is just too small for the good ones to keep good spacing. (This is all MHW experience. I did not enjoy Rise. I did not enjoy what i played of Rise. the flow of combat and requiring wire bug usage made it not enjoyable for me. Add that there were no aesthetics that really called to me and I decided to call it quits.)

[@Michael-1337]

I hope they get rid of longsword tripping other players. It honestly one of the most infuriating mechanics in the game.

[@TransientWitch]

Oh boy. Bow going to be made into a complete joke before the game even comes out because people whined so hard about it. Yay.

[@YuhiroYTB]

Meanwhile rey dau has been killed in two mins by 4 charge blade 🤔

[@superunknown2728]

Longsword is way over hated and I don't even play it, the nerfs ruined it in rise (fuck harvest moon)

[@JoIhnnyRage]

hopefully lance will be fun finally.

[@andi051]

The longsword in wilds feels a bit weird to play. When you are doing the combos every directional input is a gapcloser and you move a lot and you are way to mobile and it feels off. I couldn't get into a good flow where i knew what happens next after my input if that makes sense. Very hard to explain. I would like your opinion on this?

[@MysticDragonForce]

COUNTER-THRUST!!!! PLEASE RETURN PLEASE!!!!!!!

[@SpartanGoku]

If I get the PlayStation portal, would I be able to take my hunt to go with multiplayers?

[@mechamahou8467]

This entire comments section is nothing but whining about shit no one even used in world. Everyone whining about the lack of friendly fire are the exact people who ran flinch free for all of World to avoid the entire mechanic anyway 😂

[@uvveshlurvvesh6515]

Tried Hunting Horn in the First... took 2 hours to fry my graphics card 😂

[@quantifiedamalgamation]

I'm not in a Walmart, or at work this time, but my wife just got a notification on her phone and ran into the next room. I wonder if she's watching this video too? EDIT: She's having an affair. Well, at least I still have Wilds to look forward to in February!

[@johnbarrett6238]

Please bring back simple AEDs for charge blade and nerf the weapons overall damage.

[@cheezy4806]

I cant believe im saying this but I wish the beta never happened. The amount of sweaty whiny complainy nerds that came out of the woodwork to demand changes that are seriously some of the biggest non issues ive ever heard just cried wolf and for some god forsaken reason capcom is listening to them.

[@justascaredgreycat1869]

Some compliant are legit. They just listen too much from crybabies that don’t wanna learn anything, lmao. Complaining about flinch is peak low-iq behavior.

[@IdkWhoiam-d4h]

I agree

[@hovem4868]

I think some changes from beta were good like the IG change and problem with performance was highlighted. I do wish people complained less though, a lot of issues people talk about is without actual experience in playing the weapon they say is too op or is just regurgitating information they see.

[@pumpkin7446]

Do you think MonHun devs are going to ruin their whole game over some excessive feedback? I understand a little bit of where you're coming from but I genuinely don't feel like there's anything to be angry about rn..

[@avestraa]

bowguns felt pretty weak in the beta.. lets hope for some buffs!!

[@Phoenix-sc6di]

Now tbf, Bowguns are historically the weapons that profit the most, or at least heavily, from well planned builds. To me at least they tend to feel a little bloodless in the earlier stages of the game, before you get access to all ammo, bigger mag sizes, and synergistic skills. But I too hope that HBG at the very least will get a couple extra abilities, or atleast a follow up for the power clash. Not having that is criminal

[@evans178]

ah yes lets use the beta that did not allow for their customization to buff its for when it has customization

[@Leith_Crowther]

Wyvernsnipe…

[@yourdad5799]

Omg really!? Bowguns without customizations and higher level ammo feel weak!? Who woulda thunk

[@Phoenix-sc6di]

@yourdad5799 Jesiz dad, chill out.