Monster Hunter Wilds Hunting Horn Gameplay Breakdown!

[@an0bserver2000]

ive been struggling to even find the HH footage, let alone analyze it. so thanks for this!

[@KPlaysHere]

@@an0bserver2000 of course! Hope this helps some poor info starved HH users out there

[@SpyKobra]

​@@KPlaysHere Did my timestamps help you with the two videos from the German streams? 😂

[@KPlaysHere]

@@SpyKobra 🤣🤣 beats looking through several hours of stream to find them

[@TeaTimeRumble]

Dude this is so much better than i thought it was gonna be I wouldve been happy with Worlds HH but just faster, but the stuff like the Performance adjust, Crush, and Focus Attack is just insane

[@KPlaysHere]

Right?? It's gonna be sooo GOOD! All we need is good damage and Capcom officially cooked

[@TheDalisama]

​​@@KPlaysHere Ive been watching the damage numbers and i think we're good. Capcom stated in interviews they've balanced the weapons to where if you're playing right you shouldn't be massively out DPSd by others. I've noticed that DB was getting 4-5 damage per hit, SnS was getting 9-10, and lance was around 16. Fir me, SnS is a baseline, so the faster DB gets about half damage per hit at about twice the hit rate and lance gets about a 60% increase for slower hits. HH seems to be a bit above lance in damage per hit Those aren't across the board. Obviously there are moves that do more damage, I'm just talking about the basic combo hits.

[@KPlaysHere]

@@TheDalisama there's a HH main discord where they're trying to figure out the numbers with the footage we got. Looks very close to World, which isn't all that impressive until you consider that our attack rate is much higher and the damage ceiling when you set up everything just right is kinda crazy. Like, approaching GS numbers in total with something like 3 bubbles+Performance Beat Recital combo into an Encore+3 Echo Wave songs

[@LaurensVandoorne]

Hero! Finally a ray of light in the HH information drought. Still some mechanics that need to be confirmed, but what I'm seeing up until now seems like a very interesting implementation of HH this time around. Let's hope one of the devs pick HH today, as initially intended on day 1.

[@KPlaysHere]

Fingers crossed! Shoot, there are still things that even I missed just because of the gameplay quality we've had to work with lol

[@baldbishop1667]

Yeah it was used today on a hunt, it was displayed and they explained a little​@@KPlaysHere

[@HarryHairdo]

Thank you friend, I have been so desperate for something like this! Glad to see a world based moveset back with the moves from rise being implemented in a more thoughtful way. Not sure I quite understand performance beat; are you required to do it to play the next song in your queue? Or does it just speed up the timing? - I want to see new encore as well; fast encore is good and all but I love the slow but satisfying weight of a good backwards encore! Thanks again your doing gods work.

[@KPlaysHere]

Of course! The way I understand Performance Beat, it plays through your songs faster while dealing more damage. You don't have to do it to play through everything, but it does make for a more effective use of your time in Recital Mode. And you just reminded me of something: so far, we've only seen the new fast encore from the trailer. I like how fast it is, but I really hope they kept some of those old ones. Back encores were super satisfying to land

[@thepowerfulpaet4937]

Nice stuff here. I didn't have the patience to sit through that gameplay so I appreciate you getting out of it what you could. Hunting horn is looking like a beast now. They fixed all my issues with it that were keeping it from being one of my favorite weapons.

[@KPlaysHere]

@@thepowerfulpaet4937 yeah it was definitely painful to watch so I hope this helps condense things down for people. Good gameplay is gonna look AMAZING in this game! I love how they're finally making technical look super flashy

[@TwistedNegative]

@@KPlaysHere HH technology so advanced in Wilds that it is indistinguishable from magic!

[@thepowerfulpaet4937]

@@KPlaysHere I can't wait to see some gunlance pros have at it. Shrugging off attacks with guard points while doing your most powerful attacks? It's going to be sick.

[@pao5563]

8:05 you mean to tell me there's a rhythm minigame for the HH now? Good Gog that's awesome!

[@KPlaysHere]

There should've been all along!!

[@kerch6071]

Dabbled in horn with ice world and sun rise, but I’ll be full sending it in wilds all the way to end game. So it’s nice to find some good content creators for my new weapon choice. Keep up the good work!

[@KPlaysHere]

There's so few of us out there 😩 meanwhile bows and swords are a dime a dozen for content creators lol. Someone's gotta represent the Horn

[@actual9716]

I'm not sure if you noticed, but while the hunter is placing down an Echo Bubble the top-right button prompt suggests that you can also queue notes while doing it.

[@KPlaysHere]

👀👀👀 oh, that makes that move SO much better! I was too busy focusing on the little buff icons covered up by the logo in the top left to see how the buff worked lol, good catch!

[@RyanCooper101]

!!!! I wonder how many you can queue perr each bubble , if its unlimited if you press the buttons fast enough, insane skill ceiling

[@KPlaysHere]

@@RyanCooper101I found a Japanese channel that managed to fit all the weapon tips into her allowed recording time by just rapid fire scrolling through the menus lol. Smart idea. The echo dance allows for 3 songs, superpound can do 2 like flourish now, and Earthshaker can do 5

[@RyanCooper101]

@@KPlaysHere You're a legend!

[@KPlaysHere]

@@RyanCooper101 master detective for HH info lol

[@Jaycan]

HELL YEA WE OUT HERE! I can’t wait to spot in Wilds. I’m also hella excited to see this video blow up you deserve it my guy!

[@RouxBeard]

Crazy how no other content creators including self named hunting horn mains covered the weapon. So far even after the livestream today the only ACTUAL gameplay showing the moves and attacks is the showcase trailer. Half of our attacks haven't been shown by players demo gameplay. 🙃

[@Jaycan]

@@RouxBeard thing is this is only the first event and the amount of information coming out about the game is so overwhelming. Along with people being busy with other jobs they may have. maybe those creators will get to go to Pax and cover it.

[@KPlaysHere]

Thanks man! Wilds can't come out soon enough, I can't wait to play and drop even more HH content

[@Zyckro]

That Focus Attack being similar to Perfect Rush with the added complexity of being able to load notes to your staff... HH is definitely going in my bird pouch alongside CB. This weapon looks like so much fun!

[@KPlaysHere]

I was always baffled that SnS got a sort of rhythm based move before the literal musical instrument weapon, so I'm happy that we finally got ours AND that it's super on theme lol

[@healexhelixvideos4680]

Great analysis man! I got my wife to translate a bit from the Capcom Germany stream and they admitted that they pretty much had no idea what they were doing with the Hunting Horn, so I appreciate that they even tried it. As for your video, wow you found so much; amazing sleuthing man. Mad excited for this weapon now. The only thing I really disagree with you on is the echo note spin to win move: I'm glad it's not back. Looks like recitals and bubbles will be the core of the damage now, which is honestly preferable, as playing semi-complex songs in the middle of the fight has always been the fun part. Thanks for all of the hard work!

[@KPlaysHere]

I could've guessed that even without the translation lol but yeah, apparently chat was asking him to show HH because nobody else was so he did us a solid. I'm still picking out little things here and there watching through that footage! The spin2win has always been a polarizing move. I see why it may be gone now because it doesn't exactly fit in to what we're currently able to do

[@healexhelixvideos4680]

​@@KPlaysHereAt least Arekkz & co. got us some good footage this morning.

[@staggorath2377]

Hunting horn having a unique special attack locked behind a song is such a crazy choice and Im all for it

[@KPlaysHere]

It really won't be all that hard to keep up all the time too with the new quick note storing moves

[@AT-is6hr]

Thanks for the video. Been on life support looking for gameplay... really hoping we get some good HH footage before Gamescom is over. Mostly just been speculating based on the little information/gameplay we have available right now. Was lucky enough to get info directly from another player who tried the demo covering the same topics you did in the video. I am a little salty about offset melody/the counter because many other weapons seem to have access to infinitely spammable counter moves with no cooldown whatsoever or access to perfect blocks/dodges, while HH's version (which is probably locked to certain horns) requires you to put together a 4 note melody first. Can't help but feel we're getting the short end of the stick again. Also hoping that we actually get some good base moveset MVs this time - based on commentary during the event it was directly stated that HH damage would be better, but the dev team doesn't exactly have a great track record around this, so will have to wait and see. Am slightly concerned that they want damage output to be tied to specifically having multiple echo bubbles down, would rather have better base moveset MVs instead. Also agree with you that it's weird they restrict the echo bubble buffs to the range of the bubble, which honestly isn't large enough to justify that decision. And really hoping that they don't actually allow buffs to carry over to other weapons, that would be a really poor design choice IMO as well. On the bright side, the chaining notes looks a lot smoother and quicker and they seem to have kept some of the Rise transitions between basic attacks (overhead into crush, and I think they have the faster backslam (not sure about this one specifically)), which I think will significantly help the flow of chaining notes for recitals.

[@KPlaysHere]

I'm not too worried about the counter requiring notes to pull off, especially sinceits looking like Offset Attacks have a high stagger chance. If you get it, the next attacks you do to punish could easily be used to stock another counter. I'm not the best at plucking MVs out of thin air like some MH math geniuses I know lol, but from what they're seeing thay look similar to World's. The difference obviously being though that this version puts out attacks a lot faster and with a bunch of extra moves and sonic waves to work with And yeah, the bubble range thing is weird but I'm hoping we have an easier time when properly playing around 3 of them and/or using skills to help. In my 2nd HH trailer analysis video I compared moves side by side and it looks like even though the individual swings are all the same speed, the endlag between them is shorter so you can combo much smoother

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

Personally I am ok with buffs carrying over to other weapons, as long as it's taken into consideration to make sure Horn isn't dominant as a secondary weapon. That obviously means Self-Improvement not working, but also if Attack Up XL is nerfed I honestly think that is fine, IMO it's necessary to do if you want to make Horn's singleplayer vs multiplayer DPS balanced. Echo Bubble buffs will also be nearly impossible to use properly without sticking to Horn. With just both those things I think the lost uptime wasted by swapping weapons will outweigh the damage buffs, at least in singleplayer. That leaves people using Horn as a secondary weapon to give themselves and the team more niche buffs like Earplugs, which I am honestly 100% fine with.

[@KPlaysHere]

@@darthvaderreviews6926 exactly. I mean, the devs have to know that people's minds will go there. This is too easy of a strategy to think up. Just making it tedious to do is 1 thing, but imo there needs to be a mechanical limit to it too

[@Very_Unwise]

Allegedly, you can input up to 3 notes during the dance animation for echo bubbles and 5 notes during the guitar solo focus attack. I wonder if it also counts as a performance at the end, such that you play all the notes you inputted during each attacks wind-up. If so using the echo bubble dance or focus attack as a quick way to rebuff midfight seems absolutely amazing. If not then its still a super fast way to queue 3-4 notes, leaving you ready for recital/encore right away. Either way im stoked HH gets to play guitar hero midfight, and thanks for being the only guy who actually knows HH well and makes content on it from Gamescom. You are the forward recital to my superpound❤

[@KPlaysHere]

thanks! 😁 Apparently the Focus Attack can actually combo right into a song. We haven't seen the Echo Bubble Dance store notes yet so it's still a mystery what you can do out of that move. And it's funny you mentioned superpounds, because someone just pointed me back to that stream and it looks like that move can store 2 notes now too👀

[@Very_Unwise]

@@KPlaysHere woo woot?!?! So queuing 4 note song starting with double note is potentially just superpound + flourish. Thats crazy. It seems HH will have alot of opportunities for skill expression in wilds, with all the tools theyve given it.

[@BarderBetterFasterStronger]

My friend, you are shredding it with the top tier HH content. Keep it up.

[@KPlaysHere]

@@BarderBetterFasterStronger will do!!

[@te5871]

Thanks for the details and breakdown! It's so cool that if the Focus Attack can stock five or six notes with tempo. It's kind of sad that we can only see one steaming footage and another video using it to buff longsword.

[@KPlaysHere]

We got a little more this morning. Showed the Focus Strike going right into playing songs which makes it even better! I doubt that the other weapon buffing will end up being anything more than a gimmick in the long run the more I think about it

[@te5871]

@@KPlaysHere That's amazing! And I noticed in 4:17 when placing an Echo Bubble can also stock notes, that is mentioned in the official move list. But not sure how many it can stock.

[@mcCharles_]

I like how hh rewards thoughtful gameplay and not the spam behavior like in rise. with these changes, I believe that the Huntinghorn will be one of the most mechanically challenging weapons in the game with some of the biggest payoffs. I do like the counter being tied to the song list however, I hope it’s a very forgiving counter with a nice window, if not, then it probably won’t be worth it. I also really like how you can input to notes incredibly quickly with the focus attack . Encouraging the players to actually memorize and perform the notes through muscle memory. Most of the time when we use Huntinghorn, we just play the songs before the fight and every single time we have a break in between, but now it’s encouraging us to play the notes during the fight to get the most value.

[@KPlaysHere]

It's definitely got some Rise spirit to it, just without the needless simplifying. With this they actually packed in a lot MORE technical gameplay, but I like how it seems to blend together naturally and reward you for getting it right. This right here? Peak HH

[@李飛飛大燒B]

it's probably going to be challenging but not sure about the payoff

[@ragingdawn1583]

That song playing in focus attack on each strum actually reminds me of 2nd gen horn when building up notes is tied into performance-mode only. Imo it could have better implementation with better current-gen animation. So horn user can focus on attacking, and when song is needed we can queue up notes in performance. But I don't mind HH in wilds

[@BladesofElysian]

As it should be! Rise horn was incredible but boring. This wilds horn makes the weapon seem so much more compelling.

[@marcel-q1m]

​@@ragingdawn1583 Damn you made me remember something ancient. I remember trying out HH for the first time back then and was so lost

[@Zarosguth]

Oh man, my excitement has absolutely skyrocketed. All of this is so interesting and cool. So many neat mechanics upping both the complexity and damage potential of HH in ways I super appreciate. Thanks for dissecting this as I probably would've missed a lot of these things had I watched that footage myself because I am the worst when it comes to watching someone play (for the lack of a better word) "wrong". Not that I will yell at people in chat or comments, but it will very much distract me from making useful observations.

[@KPlaysHere]

Of course! It's crazy how much they've crammed into this version too. I literally learned 2 new things I didn't mention in this video, by rewatching this video lol

[@galapegos3008]

The movement speed bubbles in Iceborne didn't give other weapons movement speed, but can give movement speed to other hunting horn users, so i doubt that other weapons will gain the benefits of self improvement Special Performances seem like they may be different between horns, just like the other songs are, which would explain why they showed a different hunting horn only for that one sonic smash attack in the weapon trailer. So it looks like some horns will get a counter, some will get the sonic boom, and some may even get different attacks we haven't seen yet, like the other stuff from Rise, GU, or the echo note spin.

[@KPlaysHere]

Fun fact: that's because no other weapons have different states for their movement speed coded into that game. They've definitely made special cases for buffs only affecting HH users before

[@marcel-q1m]

Time to bring two HHs with you then

[@zack_feldman]

Thank you so much for this man, been searching for two days just to make sure our horn is back!

[@KPlaysHere]

Back and better than ever!

[@TheXtreme615]

The fact that the earthshaker will slow you to input notes is crazy, that makes me even more excited for that move

[@KPlaysHere]

And apparently you can combo straight into a recital afterwards too!

[@FellozGS]

finally! another HH enjoyer! i'll let my HH main friend know! thank you! keep doing what you do!

[@KPlaysHere]

That's the plan!

[@RouxBeard]

Thanks so much for the great info. You're our only connection to actual hh content. Looks like the counter is a loaded song to stop us from spamming it, horn play position change is op, I bet we get animation cancels. I'm still baffled why Capcom didn't have a dev play it during the interviews...mind blowing

[@KPlaysHere]

I got you guys! There's still 1 more dev stream, so we'll hopefully see it used better there. I'm ready to see all the new techniques on top of our old ones coming back! Counter play is a big 1, since we've never had a proper 1 before and we're the only weapon that seems to need to plan them ahead of time.

[@AKA-Latromi]

​@@KPlaysHere I am absolutely interested in that fact, though! The planning ahead is what Rise HH was missing most for me - so all this planning ahead with bubble placement and even our counter song sounds AMAZING! Loving that extra beat during recitals to make playing music into the monster's faces even more aggressive. Cannot wait to get my hands on this version of Horn. I'm gonna have a difficult time playing anything else after Wilds, I fear!

[@4l6ag3]

Some more details I got from the first page of the recommended combo guide which the youtuber 茶々茶 showed off in her latest video -The focus attack gives you chance for 5 notes and doing them with good timing increases the damage of the attack. -You can also add 3 notes while placing a bubble There might have been more information but I'm not a hunting horn player so I don't know what might be changes. If you know japanese and feel like frame stepping through that part of the video there might be more information. She scrolled through the first page of the guide for every weapon very quickly in her limited allowed footage time.

[@KPlaysHere]

Nice find! I'll definitely take a look, thanks!

[@SpyKobra]

good job!❤ Thanks for the good and quick classification of the scenes shown from the Capcom_Germany stream. 🎉

[@kennyevilmonkey]

Thank you for this! We are not getting anywhere near enough HH coverage, so every little bit helps!

[@KPlaysHere]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BlazeMakesGames]

yeah the thing about the hunting horn buffs carrying over to other weapons is that even if it is 100% true that all buffs like self improvement work on other weapons, that doesn't mean it's necessarily the most practical or optimal thing to do. That means having to constantly stop attacking and get back on your seikret and swap back to horn, hop off, play your buffs, hop back on, swap back to your main weapon, and then finally resume attacking, all while wasting buff time. It'll probably be a good combo if you have a big attack you're prepping, like say you put a monster to sleep and you use your HH to give Attack Up L to your greatsword as part of the wakeup. But for more general combat applications I feel like it's just a lot of a hassle for not as much of an improvement as people think it is. It'll always be more efficient to just have a proper HH player buffing the party

[@KPlaysHere]

I don't even think examples like the GS 1 will be all that practical tbh. The time you'd take setting up that happy brain chemicals big number with a HH song you probably could've used to set up another attack for more net damage. It sounds neat on paper, but it'll probably end up too tedious to bother with in the long run

[@CloakedOccultist]

We also don't know how convenient Seikret is for swapping weapons, as it was at one point mentioned that if Seikret takes damage, it'll run away and be unusable for a while.

[@KPlaysHere]

@@CloakedOccultist and there may be more limitations too, unless that was the thing they were referring to. Either way though, the biggest limiting factor will be people finding out that a 3-5 minute buff timer is only generous when you don't have to waste chunks of it with several steps and animations every time you want to refresh it.

[@HunterKillerBotLoL]

instant sub just for trying to put this together for your fellow dooters.

[@KPlaysHere]

Ayy, now THAT'S the kind of support a HH user likes!

[@HunterKillerBotLoL]

@@KPlaysHere Given I'm looking at bringing two HH's just for song flexibility from fight to fight... let me just say DOOT DOOT

[@KPlaysHere]

@@HunterKillerBotLoL lol if we do 2 Horns, do we still say it twice, or 4 times? Doot Dood squared maybe? 🤣

[@hanabadah5037]

The setups are gonna be insanely fun. Can’t wait to figure out the new flow of the Wilds Hunting Horn 🤙🏾

[@baconberries8097]

I actually so called the fact that the focus strike is a mini game, but I didn't think it would actually queue songs! I thought it would be like guitar hero, where it would prompt you to press certain buttons in a sequence in order to get the most damage.

[@KPlaysHere]

Apparently good timing will actually boost the damage, plus you can ALSO combo right into a recital, so it's both!

[@upgreid]

Thanks for the breakdown!! Can't wait to get to the spreadsheeting shenanigans again!

[@KPlaysHere]

Yeah, I'm fine doing the details if you guys get the math😂

[@AussieAlex]

I really love the shred move (yes, I’m calling it that), and seeing how it works like a rhythm game for storing all of your notes… this will be so fun to master. I’m very excited for this iteration of the HH, it seems like it got a lot of love this time around.

[@KPlaysHere]

It sure did! They weren't lying when they said it changed a lot

[@thebestusername5318]

In CaoSlayers Gunlance video last night we've seen that he gives himself Attack Up with the HH and then shows that his attacks do more damage. This confirms the damage buffs transfers over between weapons

[@KPlaysHere]

Imagine actually testing it, good on him for bringing the proof to back the claim lol

[@kura100]

A bit of a rant here from another long time HH player: God, the one time we finally get a stream where they play the Hunting Horn and the player in the stream was completely clueless on how the horn works. That first German Stream in gamescom, the dude just ran around barely doing anything with the horn and then he ended up carting during the hunt and he immediately gave up on the weapon and switch to another weapon. That part still makes me fume lol. The day 2 of the German Stream in gamescom the same guy tried it again and he did a bit better, but my god he didn't properly showcase all the moves like the hilt stab or the offset melody. No offense to the guy that play it, he seems chill and cool. But I had to say something about how he played the horn. 😅 I swear to God, you're more likely to win the goddamn lottery over finding a HH player that at least knows the basic mechanics. 😫 Either thanks for bringing the goods Kplays. Looking forward to more HH stuff in the next few days hopefully..

[@KPlaysHere]

I feel you 100% it wouldn't be nearly as bad if he wasn't literally the only source of HH footage we've had so far...and TWICE at that

[@williambarefoot3631]

Noticed the echo wave had blunt in parentheses. I wonder if that means there's a sharp version as well for tail cuts.🤔

[@KPlaysHere]

Wouldn't that be something lol. Damaging songs were split into 100% raw impact damage and dragon damage before so it could also mean an elemental wave. I'm hoping for a status wave personally lol, I wanna rock monsters to sleep and wake them right back up again

[@AKA-Latromi]

Really hoping for this myself as well. Getting the tail cut through ROCKING OUT would be ridiculous in the best possible way.

[@spaceman7019]

I know a couple HH mains (1) in my friend group that would love this video.

[@KPlaysHere]

Good thing you found it! Hopefully I'll be able to put out another soon with some more solid gameplay lol

[@karaarcadia]

I have been STARVING for good hunting horn gameplay I really hope we get some good footage in the future but so far HH looks PEAK

[@KPlaysHere]

We all are, ugh. I learned a ton from this but it was PAIN to watch. Definitely looking forward to more solid gameplay

[@karaarcadia]

@@KPlaysHere props to you for sitting through basically every hunting horn’s first time. I saw this man pull out self improvement several times and nothing else and thought that was all they showcased. Good to know there was a little more meat on the bones lol

[@KPlaysHere]

@@karaarcadia seeing someone taking literally like, 3 steps at slow no Self Improvement speed hurts my soul lol, and it just went downhill from there 🤣

[@frescopino7866]

Given that the offset attack and special recital were shown off in the trailer with different horns it's likely that they occupy the same "special performance" slot. So maybe one horn's counter will be a faster hit with the weapon while another will be a stronger sound based attack.

[@TwistedNegative]

Unconfirmed (at this time), but it's looking to shape up that way!

[@KPlaysHere]

Different attacks that all counter but do different things is the way I'd do it. I can't really think of another effect that'd be worth giving away a counter for

[@frescopino7866]

@@KPlaysHere Yeah, they're probably all counters with different effects. I can see the recital one being the new "extend all songs" and doing more stun damage to the monster while the bonk one gives you a free note while granting either i-frames during the dodge or hyper armour through the entire animation. And who knows, maybe there'll be more. Though I really wouldn't trust myself with these predictions, up until the very last second I kept saying that styles would be back and that the special recital we saw in the overview was style specific.

[@BladesofElysian]

Imagine how creative they can get with that implementation. Let's say the spider horn has the silk bomb from rise. The amount of variation that can yield is amazing.

[@KPlaysHere]

@@frescopino7866 I'd love a built-in Melodies Extended move, especially on a counter...would be great for double HH lol

[@stevenherrera3377]

I searched for hh gameplays like crazy and no one... no one played it in the demo... T_T So thanks for uploading this video

[@KPlaysHere]

We actually got a lot of info from people playing...they all were just unfortunately not allowed to record footage😩

[@李飛飛大燒B]

This new horn's design is just way too good

[@KPlaysHere]

The few weapon skins we've already seen look so good! I can't wait to collect all the different Horns

[@Sethg98]

Between Horn and Gunlance, I am absolutely foaming at the mouth for a demo. Hope we get an announcement at least at TGS.

[@KPlaysHere]

I'm sinking sooo much time into that thing...

[@Sethg98]

@@KPlaysHere I put more hours into the rise demo than some of the actual games I have on my switch lol. Hoping wilds demo isn’t a limited run like world and iceborne’s were, missed 2 of the iceborne demos cuz I was out of town.

[@KPlaysHere]

@@Sethg98 oh I'm taking time off, I got things to learn lol

[@hanabadah5037]

The setups are gonna be insanely fun. Can’t wait to figure out the new flow of the Wilds Hunting Horn

[@KPlaysHere]

Me neither!

[@jumex7]

not gonna lie this video made me tear up. My body is ready for the counter song and all of these glorious buffs and QOL changes

[@KPlaysHere]

It's just so beautiful 😭😭😭

[@arthurboyle7982]

Kinda sad we didn't keep infernal melody in some way considering how big of a difference a horn having attack up made in World. Hopefully the team does a better job of balancing the songs on each horn so we arent stuck with only 1 or 2 endgame options that dominate over everything else.

[@KPlaysHere]

Seeing any change to song lists whatsoever has me hopeful that they'll finally touch up the song list balance. Like, seeing Attack Up+no Infernal+no attack boost on the Bubble worried me a bit, but for all we know there could just be Attack Up on every song list

[@PanickedPike]

That Focus Attack being a multi-note input is already hurting my smol brain. Gonna have to step it up in Wilds. lol

[@KPlaysHere]

Wilds HH will be very big brained for sure, but probably very rewarding once it all clicks!

[@PanickedPike]

@@KPlaysHere I'm no stranger to good HH Play. I studied Grifftd's vids back in the day. But remembering two strings of notes? I ain't getting any younger, boys. lol

[@merlindrake5557]

Buffs carry over. Someone tested gun lance shelling to see if it scales with atk and the shells did more damage after they boosted themselves with HH and swapped weapons

[@KPlaysHere]

@@merlindrake5557yeah, I saw that. It's been confirmed that regular buffs will, but nothing weapon specific like Self Improvement

[@Spyger9]

Oh MAN! So many brilliant little tweaks! Crush was the one move from Rise I actually liked, and they've implemented it in the perfect, unobtrusive way. That little kick to knock the horn over his head from a rearward to a forward stance is DELIGHTFUL! Doing a Forward Recital from a neutral stance is also much faster in Wilds, which is good news for newbies. HH seems much more accessible overall without compromising the classic playstyle and depth. Actually punching in notes during the Focus Attack is SO SICK. I hear that you can also perform 3 notes during the Echo Bubble dance animation! Literally my only concern is the draw attack thing. I found that to be kinda clunky in Rise. But the MH devs have polished similar issues in the past. Did you see the IGN interview where they say they've specifically ensured that HH damage is competitive?!

[@KPlaysHere]

They really went back to the drawing board after Rise and somehow painted a masterpiece. I'm loving it! Didn't even know about possible notes during the bubble or the attention to its damage potential (FINALLY). Wilds could really be the HH Redemption Arc

[@gmkgoat]

The strumming on Earthshaker stocks notes? Oh my god

[@KPlaysHere]

Someone was on a ROLL in the weapon designing room😂

[@KhanjoOfEthiopia]

Weapon trailer had me hyped and I reinstalled world to learn a bit and prepare, but this video fully settles it for me, I'm converting from a hammer main to the doot brigade for wilds. All the satisfaction of bonking monsters, but with the style and funk befitting truly classy individuals

[@KPlaysHere]

@@KhanjoOfEthiopia that's the spirit! All the bonks, all the songs!

[@ashleylongley1628]

Happy they aren’t ashamed of what hunting horn is like they were in rise.

[@toreole]

8:40 okay thats insanely cool

[@KPlaysHere]

They went IN on this version!

[@JoyTuub]

As a HH main I'm hoping the buffs stay. If other people choose to use it purely for buffing their other weapon, so be it. I don't need to gatekeep the buffs. Being able to have double the song buffs to choose from between 2 hunting horns really appeals to me. Ever since HH was introduced I've mained it. Ofc I always pick another weapon or 2 to cycle through the roster, because they are all so incredibly fun. Horn will always have my heart though. Buffing and support my team without sacrificing damage feels so rewarding. Can't wait to doot bonk along side the community soon!

[@KPlaysHere]

Caoslayer (GL KZbinr that's usually much better with their fact checking than the 1st person to claim it) actually did the testing and it works. Not for Self Improvement, but that was obviously not gonna be the case. It's less about gatekeeping to not want it to work though and more a concern about weapon balancing. Unless they boost HH's damage to more competitive levels, the only weapon that'd be paying in damage potential to have access to song buffs would be...HH, which just sounds off to me. I mean sure, it'll probably be super inefficient to try and maintain buffs without using HH 100%, but still

[@Level_1_Frog]

A GIANT SAXOPHONE!? 🎷 HELL YEAH! 💯🔥

[@sherlockscones]

Couldnt be more happy with how this looks from a gameplay perspective, I’m sad the notes sound effects still don’t match with the aesthetic of the weapon, but that’s a TINY nitpick. A weapon has never looked so beautifully crafted in a game before and I can’t wait to see what more we’ve yet to discover about it🙌🏽🙆🏽‍♂️

[@KPlaysHere]

The sound effects could always be a demo build thing; we'll see in the full game. I'd love to hear all the different Horn sounds going off with these new moves we've got!

[@sherlockscones]

@@KPlaysHere That's definitely a possibility, I hope that is the case, regardless the songs themselves fit perfectly and sound amazing which is good enough for me. Most of all I hope we can get our hands on a demo this year

[@dikardvondoom3574]

2:30 That was my initial thought too. It’s seems like way too much of a hassle to mount > Swap > play notes > repeat.

[@KPlaysHere]

Yeah, like for example the Attack Up in this demo lasted around 3 minutes. You'd have to do the whole weapon swap thing at the beginning and towards the end so you'd be losing a chunk of that every time

[@Purpletrident]

Personally, I don't care if Horn is just used by people for buff swapping. Horn mains will continue to use it as their main weapon! And in multiplayer, people would still love having a dedicated horn player constantly buffing them. The little bit we've seen so far of horn looks amazing. I'm so curious what kind of silliness we'll find in the focus mode strumming attack. It might be very good for setting off the echo bubbles while also setting up echo waves. It seems like it'll be a big setup weapon. Hopefully we'll see some heroes put up horn gameplay soon (and actually know how to use it haha)

[@KPlaysHere]

I mean, I was over the whole process just listing all the necessary steps to get songs onto another weapon lol. With any luck, if it works people will try it a few times for the meme and then drop the gimmick. There are so many small intricacies and interactions to find here that we REALLY need someone that actually knows HH to get into it. Without that baseline knowledge it'll be hard to actually find the new stuff

[@baldbishop1667]

Man HH is looking technical and fun, going hard on musical and notes part. Gonna be my main this time, the problem is going to be choosing a secondary.

[@KPlaysHere]

Another HH with different notes, duh😂

[@deathfromthedepths]

We shall march endlessly! Doot forever more!

[@KPlaysHere]

Listen to the SONG OF OUR PEOPLE 🎼🎵🎶

[@nuke2099]

Both Rurikhan and Arekkz made a mention of HH on the Arekkz stream but unfortunately it was mostly around using it to buff the weapon they actually want to use. Wilds will likely see HH be more popular for the wrong reasons. Conga paw curls.

[@KPlaysHere]

Hopefully if that does end up being possible it'll be so tedious that people just won't bother

[@princewaldron9170]

I love how the echo bubbles are way bigger before they was so little so was hard to stand in bubble buff

[@KPlaysHere]

You definitely need them to be bigger now that they only buff you while you're in them and they deal damage

[@tielmaster7879]

Am I the only one that liked rise horn lol.

[@KPlaysHere]

Nah, I really liked it too! I just also miss the more technical mechanics of older versions. So far, it's looking like Wilds is keeping that plus the fast and flashy aggression I liked from Rise

[@tielmaster7879]

@@KPlaysHere I hope the speed of the horn stays from Rise. Been using hunting horn since 4u and classical hunting horn had some really high animation commitment for some of the moves that I always found unnecessary.

[@slimthrowed]

I loved the Rise horn! Don’t get me wrong, I’m using the HH in World as we speak. I just hate the fact that some people look at you like you support Nazis or something when you say you like the hunting horn in Rise. The HH is great in World, but it’s definitely a bit sluggish and more technical in that game. Fortunately, the horn in Wilds may be the closest we get to having the best of both worlds. Can’t wait to start dootin’!

[@noupo]

I like Rise HH moveset, you can build up notes faster and seamlessly, but the simplified song system in rise doesn't require you to do that. I was hoping they would bring back rise moveset while using world song system.

[@tielmaster7879]

@@noupo same. And have more than three songs.

[@uramaki6580]

The flourish/earthshake is such a great idea! 😮

[@KPlaysHere]

And from the stream this morning we saw it combo right into song playing!

[@uramaki6580]

@@KPlaysHere Oh my god! 🫠

[@torpedosoup]

Bro thanks so much for finding these obscure clips and making an analysis. I believe u mention here that the new “encore” swings are actually attacks when bridging to the next song rather than “encores”? If thats the case i guessed it correctly in my speculation too! So we get both bridging attacks(move to next song) and encores(replay same song) now?

[@KPlaysHere]

Yeah, I think so! There's still a final encore once you empty your queue, so Performance Beat seems like a way to do the whole 'play your whole song queue' thing people were doing in World sometimes, but actually making it worthwhile

[@Rimespire]

I appreciate this analysis. HH footage has been scarce

[@KPlaysHere]

Dry as hell lol. We got 5 minutes during the dec stream this morning though! Not much but it's something

[@Mister_Taxman]

Excellent analysis! And shoutout to the Based German player 🤣

[@KPlaysHere]

He did what he could lmao

[@brunoweint]

7:32 this was possible to do in iceborne but the timing was awful, i'm glad to see it's easier now in wilds. the only thing i hate about the new horn is the echo bubble

[@KPlaysHere]

Yeah if I remember it right it required some really funky button timing so it was hard to do consistently. I liked that they made it work that way by default in Rise but then I was like wait...we literally don't need this😂 I'm still all mixed opinions on the Bubbles for now. I think I need to A) see them used right, and B) find out all the possible effects before I can fully judge

[@jtsaini711]

As a long time HH main, THANK YOU!

[@KPlaysHere]

You're welcome! Hopefully there's more to come soon

[@snpgamingchannel4551]

Insteresting on the special performance. I love that idea.

[@KPlaysHere]

Right? I'm curious about how many there'll be and how they compare to each other

[@snpgamingchannel4551]

@@KPlaysHere Oh man can’t wait for your Gameplay for the HH.

[@flinkyfingers7705]

We tried everything in live chat, that somebody please tries the horn. He was not really into horn, but at least he tried for chat.

[@LaurensVandoorne]

Constant nagging always works! 😂

[@KPlaysHere]

Shoot, gotta try something!

[@flinkyfingers7705]

@@LaurensVandoorne we really were begging 🙏🏻.

[@VanguardNeo]

Was the circle note the only one that could give you an extra note after in World? Because I'm pretty sure he got an extra note at 8:50 using triangle + circle instead. Is that new?

[@KPlaysHere]

Yeah it was only Flourish before. Oh wow, that went by so quick, nice catch!

[@purpleslushie]

Look at that sax man. Doot has never looked so good.

[@KPlaysHere]

PEAK HH!

[@李飛飛大燒B]

I hope they will give us skills to increase the size of the bubbles. They are waaaay too small

[@KPlaysHere]

@@李飛飛大燒B Horn Maestro has always been a thing exclusively for benefitting HH. Wouldn't be surprised if they adjusted the skill to account for bubbles

[@Scullcat]

Thank you so much im so hyped for this. Its so exciting to see them go back to the World style horn while keeping some Rise elements. The counter is so cool i cant wait to see it in use. Thank you for the video man its hard as hell to find HH gameplay for some reason. Will you be uploaded more HH info as it releases? Ill sup for it lol

[@KPlaysHere]

This is definitely the combo of both we needed; I would've been disappointed if they'd gone all in with either version. I'll ABSOLUTELY be posting about more HH gameplay if we actually get it lol. I'm starving for content to post and cuz I wanna see it myself lol

[@Scullcat]

@@KPlaysHere Yeah based on what we've seen im really happy with where HH is going. I subbed and turned on notifications. hopefully ill see when you post.

[@BladesofElysian]

So cool! So, the focus move allows you to quickly play five notes!? But only if you time the notes with the beats? Thats incredible!

[@KPlaysHere]

Right? Super on brand for HH lol, I'm happy they're really leaning into the sound and music aspect

[@bulletincent8059]

Your the goat my guy. god bless that poor german dude. Bad gameplay is better than no gameplay😭

[@KPlaysHere]

He did what he could🫡

[@GraceMcCown]

Listen, i understand how inefficient planning on exploiting the two weapon system will likely be, but i still plan on double horning it so that both me and my friends (or companion npcs) and i have a full armor-set-and-a-half's list of buffs

[@KPlaysHere]

You might only have to use the 1st 1 once. 3 words: Melodies Extended song

[@bicarbonateofsoda117]

Appreciate the coverage. I'm now worried about the counter for hh, I'm really not a fan of having to build it up to get it while other weapons have it for free including evades.

[@KPlaysHere]

You should be able to set it up quick and often, especially with the 2 new note stocking moves (Earthshaker and, I'm learning recently, the Echo Bubble dance). I do wish we kept the breakdancing dodge recital from GU/Rise though...

[@Nalzir]

Thank you for this I've been waiting to see more footage of hunting horn and as a hunting horn main I'm not super worried about other hunters because I feel like it's not going to be that popular of an option.

[@KPlaysHere]

We don't know actually. I've been seeing people mention that the devs have mentioned bumping up its damage potential. If that works out well, we get all the Rise disliking players back, and the new goodies bring on even more people? Low popularity might not be an issue anymore...

[@PanickedPike]

I think the issue of the Horn being a mandatory back-up is going to tank super hard when most players realize how long they're going to have to spend buffing themselves for the amount of time the buff stays in effect. I'm not worried at all. Even if some optimizers stick to that plan, I know I'm always going to be welcome in a party when I'm bringing the music. :>

[@KPlaysHere]

@@PanickedPike it's super easy to keep up buffs when you're always playing them. That's just a natural thing for HH, but trying to do the same while both swapping weapons and also dealing with your primary weapon's gimmick? Sounds like a pain not all that worth the hassle to me

[@PanickedPike]

@@KPlaysHere Totally. I didn't even consider the "Main" weapons gimmick ON TOP of note memorization and upkeep. Folks are gonna find out real quick. lol

[@KPlaysHere]

@@PanickedPike let 'em learn 🤣

[@garyisfat]

you werent kidding about that guy not knowing what hes doing. good information in this video. hope to hunt with you

[@KPlaysHere]

@@garyisfat yeah...if it wasn't for these hunts at least finally showing us the HH UI we'd really be at a loss for info. Hunts would be fun! I'm excited for cross play allowing for more players to get together now

[@garyisfat]

@@KPlaysHere hunting horn is the unsung hero of mh. besides the buff, the knock potential is understated. and im saying this as a ls/ham main

[@hammiemonster]

thanks for the vid, it was too painful to sit through that HH footage myself haha

[@KPlaysHere]

I got it covered for you guys, cringing the whole time but I did it...

[@LastKnight0727]

man, I loved Rise's HH, I just couldn't get my head around World's HH. Was hoping Wilds would be a happy medium.

[@KPlaysHere]

It kinda is, but they definitely started with World as the base

[@yellowcard8100]

Getting into HH in Rise finally made me figure out HH in World. It's a lot clunkier but I'm learning.

[@KPlaysHere]

Fortunately this new version keeps the technicality without a lot of the clunk!

[@imagecko9997]

8:08 When I first watched the HH trailer I thought it would be really cool if you could queue up notes while doing this attack. Amazing that you actually can. Now I really wish you could queue up notes on the clutch claw and mount attack in world.

[@KPlaysHere]

It's GREAT that they did that! It's so thematically cool and pretty smart as a gameplay technique too

[@V.KaiserX]

Imagine 4 HH hunters with 12 bubbles on the ground 🫧 it’s gonna get wicked😈

[@jrc-kb3ug]

Thanks for the video! I had a difficult time understanding because you talk so fast, so I had to play the video at 0.75x speed 😂

[@KPlaysHere]

Lol excitement brain, sorry!

[@ExtremeMetalLIVE]

The superpound + crush + backslam would be a really good dps dealer...

[@KPlaysHere]

Really good for notes too. I really wish they kept the Backslam>Crush combo paths but this is good too

[@ExtremeMetalLIVE]

@@KPlaysHere i'm the dude who have discussed with you in reddit about HH by the way 😂 also and new sub, really good content 💪

[@GoobieTheGoob]

Ohhhh I AM SO READY FOR THISSS!!! 🤩✨🎷

[@benturtl9076]

God all the weapons look so good

[@KPlaysHere]

Forreal! It kinda scares me tbh. What kinda timing are the monsters gonna be on if they're giving us all these goods?

[@weismanwriter9426]

I've watched this video maybe ten or so times now and I just noticed something you didn't point out (and I'll be covering it in my own video which I'm working on atm) but at 1:59 you can see Rad stack both a Note 2 and a Note 1 on the musical staff off just a Note 2 input. Technically you can do this in World as well but I'm glad to see it carried over. Since we know Note 3 can input another Note 3 (without the second attack coming out) I wonder if any of the 3 notes can input other notes? Such as the possibility of Note 3 being able to input Note 1 and the likes. I doubt that's possible but it is a fun thought. Man I wish we had this demo available to us so we could test the weapon. There's sooooo much theorycrafting I'm doing that I want to test like yesterday lol

[@KPlaysHere]

@@weismanwriter9426 yeah, the Flourish has been able to do that since MH4 and in any game it's been on HH's moveset since (only missing in Rise because it's not really needed for that version's toolkit). I generally wanted to focus on more of either the 100% new additions or some of the more technical things coming back that were absent in Rise. As far as note shortcut moves, you can usually input any of the 3 notes during the free window. So like you noticed above the Flourish grabbed an extra note 1, and in the German stream the Superpound got an extra note 3 (likely only because he was spamming XA though, it should be able to get anything). So now we have a note shortcut after a note 2 and a note 3 move, plus the Hilt Stab and extra inputs you can get from Echo Bubble Dance and Earthshaker. There's probably no note 1, since these moves usually have multiple swings per button press so you do get a window for the extra notes.

[@darkhero4hire]

I'd love to see stored songs be used as a resource for special attacks, similar to the charge blade phials. You could choose to refresh buff timers or pull off one of the "new" sonic attacks, incentivizing players to constantly load up songs instead of only focusing on songs when buffs are off cooldown.

[@KPlaysHere]

We do kinda do that in World and now Wilds. Recitals are strong attacks, which gives you incentive to stock up and play songs to attack

[@Lord-of-something]

I dont think people will run pocket hh just for atk up L/XL the song durations arent thaaat long anyway? With horn maestro its longer yes but imma make a guess and say for meta its gonna lbg or hbg most likely. Maybe bow? Tho bow needs stam regen so maybe with dual blades? Tho i can see using the stamina regen song with dual blades or bow being a really fun combo and if theres a horn with elem atk up + stamina even better :)

[@KPlaysHere]

I counted down and apparently the Attack Up S in the demo is about 3 minutes. So yeah, have fun juggling that when you have to change movesets just to reapply it lol

[@yung_juice_box6595]

Arrekz also uploaded some new HH gameplay today

[@KPlaysHere]

Oh, I saw it alright. Was a LOT better than the other guy's, but he definitely could've shown a couple more things

[@AntonioCunningham]

Sigh.... While I'm happy Hunting Horn got what they wanted, this is a hard pass for me. Rise fixed the main issue I had with Hunting horn (having to store Melodies instead of playing them when you play the correct pattern. I hated that in World/Iceborne. Having to play performance is why so many none hunting horn users avoilded the weapon) No stun weapons for me.

[@KPlaysHere]

I do see how some players could find it hard to use with the old mechanics. To be fair, from what we're seeing they have added a bunch of ways to make it easier to manage

[@nevardool13]

I have only lightly tried the HH in World, but with how it looks in Wild, I might need to start a new save just using HH. Just hoping the skills are more flexible and can effectively run GL and HH.

[@KPlaysHere]

It'll probably be decently helpful to practice in World/IB. A lot of that experience we now know carries over really well

[@ragingdawn1583]

One question that's still bothering me: does backslam chain into performance with the same sequence of backside encore? I missed this move I think since 3rd gen, and world HH didn't have it :(

[@KPlaysHere]

I think all the starting recitals are in, but we haven't seen any of the old encores yet

[@alvino098]

Dont forget to slot in Horn maestro for your Longsword buffs!

[@RouxBeard]

That's probably not a thing. Just SuperRAD making a baseless assumption.

[@HFS0744]

DOOT 🔊 DOOT 🔊

[@KPlaysHere]

DooOOOooT

[@universalgamer9615]

I’m so glad one note melodies didn’t carry over, I got scared when I saw the Hunter doing one note then playing a song multiple times during the showcase reveal for the weapon.

[@KPlaysHere]

Easily the worst part of Rise. I'm glad that they not only reverted that change but made the old basics even more technical

[@SpyKobra]

@universalgamer9615 He played the horn at the chat's request and had to be instructed via the chat. He did it well for that.

[@AKA-Latromi]

Here's hoping that Offbeat Melody varies per Horn and also isn't the only 4 note melody, too!

[@houseofthehuntinghorn1433]

You are the best. There is NO HH footage

[@KPlaysHere]

They're STARVING us! Hopefully so we can feast tomorrow

[@houseofthehuntinghorn1433]

@KPlaysHere I hope so as well. But plz someone that knows what they are going. They took the support curse. Now a real hunting Horn hero to demistrate it's power

[@KPlaysHere]

@@houseofthehuntinghorn1433 it's kinda crazy that, as far as I know, the only people calling HH a support anything still are players, not the actual people making the game. That's a VERY good sign

[@BlackSkullArmor]

Is that a giant saxophone lmao

[@KPlaysHere]

Welcome to HH, pick up your randomly assigned musical instrument and start hitting stuff with it😂

[@camil3545]

Well it isnt the first time we've had a Sax HH.