Monster Motor for the Monster Monarch More Power With Less Energy?

[@stevenslater2669]

One thing about monster machinery - parts cost monster prices. And sometimes the money ain’t to get the parts you need. I started at Ford as an Engineering co-op and spent 3 months at the Dearborn Engine Plant. They made the FE engine series there (352 thru 427 plus truck versions.) The head faces and pan rail + half rounds (main bearing saddles) were broached by huge 30 ft long broaches that were powered by huge 500 hp GE electric motors. One day the broach motor burned out. That was the spare. The first motor was back at GE for rebuild. The millwrights were told turnaround would be 6 weeks! The plant manager got involved and GE told him to go to the end of the line and WAIT because every motor in line to be rebuilt was a super special critical hot rush job and the GE facility was the only one that worked on those big motors! Luckily, the DEP Manager was able to borrow a motor from the Cleveland Engine Plant.

[@bcbloc02]

@@stevenslater2669 see I expected you to say they hooked 2 427 to a splitter box and dropped them in place of the 500hp electric and went back to work. 😎

[@liamrobertson7265]

Big Monarch deserves that big new motor! nice one Brian hope it serves you well brother

[@paulcooper9135]

So great to know the Monarch has a heart again! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

[@outsidescrewball]

congrats on the find and looking forward to chips

[@DAKOTANSHELBY]

Thank you Brian for bringing us along on this NOS Monster motor. Wow!

[@Davemte34108]

Good research and an excellent find.

[@truckguy6666]

Freakin incredible. I bet that motor is worth some coin.

[@edsmachine93]

Very nice Brian. Looks like a nice upgrade for sure. "I've got to have more power Scotty"!! Certainly going to save you and be more efficient. Thanks for sharing. 👍🇺🇸👍

[@Hoaxer51]

“I’m given er all she’s got Cap’n”! Lol

[@edsmachine93]

@Hoaxer51 😎👍🇺🇸

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

That is a beast of a motor. It dewarfs my 30 horse RPC motor.

[@BruceBoschek]

Wow! That's quite an upgrade. I'm sure it will serve you well. Congratulations.

[@truckguy6666]

This shop has the right size equipment to fix the stoker engine :)

[@Unrivaledanime]

Make sure you check the heaters on the contactor and they are sized properly

[@bcbloc02]

@@Unrivaledanime undersized heaters would just mean it would open circuit the motor before it reached rated power.

[@KD-lq1sr]

Thats awesome, looks mint. We have some huge Baldor/Reliance at work that run 24/7 for decades.

[@SouthernEngineering]

Beast Mode! 😁 Bigger is Better, this is the American Way...

[@johncollings6799]

Looks like a very nice TEFC motor

[@argee55]

Looking good. Can't wait to it back up and running.

[@Hoaxer51]

Yea, I was missing the lights dimming every time Brian started that Monarch lathe up! Lol

[@natekelly4667]

Glad to see ya got the little monarch bag up and going.

[@JustinAlexanderBell]

holy hell thats a big motor

[@JourneymanRandy]

Nice motor Brian. Sure is big.

[@bostedtap8399]

Great to see big monarch back up and running, yes, motors need to run near FLC for efficiency.

[@melshea2276]

Happy Tuesday Brian!🛠⚙️👍👍👍👍✌️

[@Engineerd3d]

Man that thing is a beast!

[@elroyelblander6277]

👍👍....surely it wasn't cheap,but happy you've got the monarch cookin again feller👍👍👊

[@williammills5111]

Very nice. Well researched (no surprise there), should work out great. Congratulations.

[@ericcorse]

No smoke that's a good thing.

[@EngineersWorkshop]

I'm sure you know, but high eff motors draw more current on startup than old ones. Glad it fired up!

[@bcbloc02]

@@EngineersWorkshop locked rotor is 300amps no idea what locked rotor was on the old one.

[@youpattube1]

Good video and project.

[@dmadere1]

Now that’s a motor fitting of your beast of a lathe!! Nice find! I wonder if it’s gonna be harder on the brakes on the lathe?

[@bcbloc02]

@@dmadere1 the motor runs all the time even when the spindle is stopped so it does not have any sort of brakes.

[@dmadere1]

@ sounds good

[@bigun447]

Now we will see some monster chips. You will be soon known as Mr. Monster Chips.

[@TheHillbillyEngineer]

Very Nice!

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

good video brian

[@thefirstcalled]

Thank you!

[@neilpuckett359]

Good morning.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice new setup. Is that an Amp gauge on the control panel? That could be helpful for you. Take care Brian.

[@bcbloc02]

@@RRINTHESHOP the lathe is supposed to have a load meter which is an inductive ammeter. It sadly was broken sometime in the past. I looked a few times for a replacement but haven’t been able to find the right one.

[@richardlincoln8438]

Has Jeff sent You the dimensions of the shaft on the Cummins He is rebuilding ? Thanks again for sharing Brian and Best Wishes.

[@richardellis3141]

nice

[@joeylawn36111]

In ‘27, Brian will upgrade his Monarch with a Pratt & Whitney R-4360….

[@bcbloc02]

@@joeylawn36111 do you know where I can pick one up cheap? 😎

[@joeylawn36111]

@@bcbloc02 LOL Unfortunately not....

[@bearbait2221]

LOL The lights dim when you kick that hog on.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How much horsepower ALLLLLLL OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@joeylawn36111]

Now, THAT’S a Motor….

[@FishFind3000]

I’d like to see what the inrush current on that thing is! I know my 5ph single phase air compressor motor is at 135-140 amps inrush.

[@bcbloc02]

@@FishFind3000 should be about 300amps 3 phase according to the data sheet 😱

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Leave it to you to come u[p with a QSK for the Monster. Now all the town lights'll dim. Blessings

[@artszabo1015]

Yay! Art from Ohio

[@michaelgoergen6702]

If you only got this thirty years ago you would have more time to play with it thanks

[@hughgilbert390]

The motor looked like it was spinning backward. If so, just swap two of the phases. Induction motors do not like undervoltage, the loss of torque increases the slip and causes a large supply current increase that overheats the motor.

[@bcbloc02]

@@hughgilbert390 I have forward and reverse buttons on the lathe. I ran it in both directions during this video.

[@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes]

Congrats! What did you pay exactly for that NOS Motor? I cant afford to barely keep my old 13/36 Clausing running correctly - Cant imagine maintaining giant stuff like you got there!

[@bcbloc02]

@@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes $2500

[@jimrankin2583]

Good to have some time to look around. Bigger size motors take a few days to arrive compared to the little ones you can pick up locally or get in a day from Graingers. Happened to have a spare 20 hp when the neighbor needed one in a hurry. Had owned it for a couple decades so I was surprised how long it was going to take him to get a new one. I’m surprised you found a new U frame motor.

[@stephenreeves9025]

was that an EMP that blinked the camera when you hit the start button

[@gorak9000]

No, just the inrush current dropping the voltage down considerably for everyone on the same service transformer as he is. He probably has his own transformer as it's a farm, and there could be a long service wire to this building from the transformer, so lots of voltage drop on high inrush!

[@stephenreeves9025]

@@gorak9000 yes but the camera is probably on battery power

[@FrancisoDoncona]

Did you ever finish insulation on the ceiling?

[@bcbloc02]

@@FrancisoDoncona no things like this keep hijacking the funding for the ceiling.

[@wags9777]

Right now it's just spending a shaft. Won't it draw more amps trying to bring itself up to speed when it's under the load?

[@bcbloc02]

@@wags9777 yes the more it has to spin up the harder it will draw on the electric.

[@jimrankin2583]

@@bcbloc02 Locked rotor current probably won’t be that much more but the amps will stay up longer while it accelerates the load. Good that size lathe has a clutch so it’ll start without all the load

[@prototype3a]

Huh. My lights didn't dim when you clicked it on.

[@bcbloc02]

@@prototype3a wait till it’s all hooked up 😱

[@daleolson3506]

Are you in the basement?poor lighting.

[@kindabluejazz]

You must be new around here. Brian does what he can and spends his money on the biggest and best tools vs the best TV production tools - he's not sponsored by CRC or Starrett or Kaeser or Milltronics or Flex.

[@daleolson3506]

@ no nice flex tho. I just want to see what’s up.

[@bcbloc02]

@@daleolson3506 can’t wait for spring when I can open the shop doors and get some more light.