MONSTER WITH 3 DPU's!! CP 8808 at Essa, Ontario

[@JayJr2007]

Our ringer playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLQJbfvE1MPX8KQdYR1I6JnkuTqPrTMH5i Thanks for dropping by!

[@marynichols438]

Now this is what I call a train! Thanks for bringing this to us. Loved it.

[@murrayent1able]

I fell asleep and woke up and the same train still going by 🤪

[@JayJr2007]

The sound lulls you to sleep. :)

[@robertroth4171]

CP 8808 leading a Monster Stacktrain 0:58 8865 as the DPU 1:58 8524 as the 2nd DPU 3:15 8612 as the Rear DPU 4:32

[@sheilatrachtenberg8997]

For railfans, this is a great video. And for an environmentally consious one, it shows how much truck mileage can be reduced when shipping is done by rail.

[@JayJr2007]

Railroads on average, move one ton of freight nearly 500 miles per gallon of fuel. Cheers & thanks, J

[@ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz]

Awesome! My dad was a train driver when I was a little boy so this is mesmerizing to me. Thanks for uploading.

[@JayJr2007]

Lots of railroad guys up this way too. Thanks for watching, JJ & Jason

[@thesenate4563]

Imagine being late to work and you get stopped by a train for 4 minutes

[@givensudeh]

bruh if only this train was going at restricting speed

[@The747Avgeek]

In the US sometimes there are 3 mile long stack trains that block roads for 30 mins!

[@freighttrainsahpassing9790]

That was a big boy. The fact that you were able to get such a long video from a train going that fast is actually pretty amazing !!!

[@JayJr2007]

The long approach adds a full minute to the video, then its all train. :)

[@KaneAbraham-ql5wc]

That's one of the longest trains I've ever seen. 4 Diesel powered locomotives hauling about 180 carriages. Incredible.

[@davidkreider942]

This is for me hands down the greatest train video ever!! Very impressive!! Simply amazing 😉

[@JayJr2007]

Thanks but I have better ones. lol This is my fav: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZWYnGiGnd2Wopo

[@paulbeach7129]

You’d be surprised at how light some of these intermodal trains can be. Regardless of the tonnage, 4 AC locomotives were right where they belonged.

[@johnstudd4245]

Very evenly distributed power. Less strain on the couplers. All under the control of a 2 person crew. Its all about moving as many "cans" as possible as cheaply as possible. Well done.

[@kennyb1472]

I can’t stop watching this. This is great.

[@aawaaraa5953]

Don't call it train just say great wall of China just pass from here.

[@pusheenthecat9264]

Lmao

[@2flyabove]

And ironically most of the stuff on that train is probably from China.

[@kyankuiper3052]

True

[@tropicalcyclonegospin]

LMAO TRUE ALSO ITS FUNNYZ

[@SamiKhan-tf5nv]

Hahahaha

[@MrSoulMonk]

One of the longest trains I have ever seen. Great capture!

[@NagalandBus]

Oh my god.... The longest train ever I have ever seen..... It was just amazing

[@JayJr2007]

Thank you for dropping by! JJ & Jason

[@HighDesertRonTrainsTrucks]

Beautiful. That's a big train for that kind of power and DPU set-up. Great video.

[@JayJr2007]

CP 8808: 0:58; CP 8865 1:58; CP 8549 3:15; CP 8612 4:32 Thanks for dropping by.. Jason

[@dsmith3818]

Why weren't the DPUs all MUd together instead of being spread out?

[@auguri2851]

Hola

[@Kylehikes47]

Sounds like a dumb question. But I was curious, as someone who doesn’t know much about the field... are there conductors/operators in each of those Engines to make sure there running properly?

[@nerktwins7023]

The lead unit is manned the DPU's are controlled by the engineer in the lead .

[@masterchef6694]

@@dsmith3818 maybe because if the engine were all put together the pulling load of all the freight would be there on the first link and would be lowest on the last link. This probably distrbutes all the stress on all the links

[@derricktherailfan]

Really great video!! Wow!! I never see a 2 CP engine on the Mid DPU but it was separated! The CP engine was on the rear DPU! This must be so powerful!

[@jean-louismougin2025]

177 wagons + 4 locomotives ! Respect !

[@AndrePereira-tw5vs]

178

[@vikrad1800]

​@@AndrePereira-tw5vsi counted 177

[@UnitedRailroader]

Wow. 2 mid train DPUs separated among cars. Fantastic video

[@richardpowell7013]

What an AWESOME CATCH, had to been over 2miles long w the 2 leading engines and 3 DPU's! Nice job.....

[@JayJr2007]

Thanks for watching & commenting. Regards, J

[@francescozappardo9183]

Never seen a train so long! Amazing!

[@JohnAckerman31]

Just unbelievable. I have never seen a train with three DPU’s. I really hope to see something like this one day

[@gilbertcastaneda8208]

Great video of a massive interamodel transfer love those Canadian Pacific trains thanks

[@JayJr2007]

Thank you! J

[@gokceralp]

4 engines+178 cars I counted... Approximately 3.6 km!

[@adityajonathanmamahit2889]

3600m holy sht!

[@Aquilius_Caesar]

Estimating an average of 25m per vehicle with a total of 180 this would be 4.5km. The engine is like 18m and the cars are much longer. Estimating roughly 70km/h and 4,5 Minutes travel time would make 5,25km. Anyways that train is just massive. Only concerned about crossing security and braking paths.

[@nicoyoung16]

2.2 miles

[@a590631]

i just wonder is it real or not. How can a engine pull 178 cars...

[@brianmcdonald6519]

@@a590631 Not 1 engine! All 4 engines would have been supplying power! No way only one engine could pull that many cars at that speed. In trains of that size, all engines must be supplying power.

[@2flyabove]

The wind drag must play a part when hauling these double stacks. They have the aerodynamics of bricks. I'd think streamlining them could really improved fuel mileage while at speed?

[@douglasskaalrud6865]

I chase CP trains configured like this on the old Soo Line Paynesville sub in Minnesota although they’re not nearly this long and consist mostly of empty grain hoppers. It’s a real challenge to get ahead of them. In the Soo Line days they would run with just enough power to barely get the trains over the hills on the roller-coaster track. The engines were working so hard it looked like they were grinding up mountain grades on track that was maybe 1%. That’s no longer the case as CP spent tons of money to get train speeds up and then provide more than enough power to run them at 50+ mph. It’s always a little unnerving when the mid-train DPU shoots by at flank speed in the middle of light, high center-of-gravity grain cars, many of them old Pullman Standards. To watch the transformation of the old 30mph Soo Line into the new 50 mph CP was a mixed blessing as it became apparent that the days of the easy train chasing were gone. There wouldn’t be much hope of playing catch-up to this train, would there?

[@IFLYBELL]

I can't rememeber a time when the Paynesville sub was ever 30 mph! Must have been WAY before my time and I have been running trains on that sub for over 20 years. Track speed from humboldt to Hammel was 25, Hamel to mp87 40 nad mp87 to Glenwood was 60. We were restricted to a max of 45 mph due to "fuel conservation". Hunter never spent any money upgrading any of the subdivisions on the property. If someone said its not safe or no, he would terminate them on the spot! We are running trains in excess of 10,000 feet and 18,000 tons with two units!

[@25mfd]

@@IFLYBELLah yea good ol' hunter harrison... his PSR bull crap is stronger than ever... NS ceo shaw bragged in december about how NS lowered their operating ratio by 530 basis points which in turn generated $10 BILLION for SHAREHOLDERS off the backs of a crap load of canned workers... i worked for the chicago and northwestern as a switchman, hired on in 93... back then if we had a 12,000 ton manifest my jaw dropped... ANYTHING 18,000 tons was coal train/potash train/ etc type trains... and even then 18,000 tons was way way excessive... PSR has gone WILD

[@PowerlinePlanet109]

This is incredibly rare, but insane to see a triple DPU CP freight train! This isn't the first time I've seen one in person.

[@carlosignatov5903]

¡¡ 177 Wagones y 4 LOCOMOTORAS !!! . Bárbaro . Bendiciones desde URUGUAY 🇺🇾❤🇺🇾❤🇺🇾

[@KevlarVTX]

Really cool to see two mid DPUs spread out like that. CP is awesome.

[@waldemarjanhre1252]

Esse Trem de Ferro e um monstro de verdade e uma composição muito longa. Parabens. Obrigado pelo video Thanks you

[@hryuchannel]

Wow.. Cool.. Btw, how do each locos communicate each to synchronize the speed? Because they are separated by wagon..

[@HavelockYard]

Radio control equipment

[@hryuchannel]

Ok tq for the information. So the RF must be reliable and low noice /intereference..👍👍

[@sc0tte1-416]

@@HavelockYard thanks for that reply. I always assumed there was some sort of data connection that was link when the cars and brake pipes were connected between the cars. Never thought of radio. Cheers

[@stripervince1]

Radio telemetry

[@nseasternrailfanner7775]

This is one of my favorite train videos

[@JayJr2007]

Thanks for watching! JJ & Jason

[@NadeemAbbas-so1kd]

Wao..... what a great operation precisely done.... excellent video

[@donsimms6969]

Imagine that each of these flat cars are carrying the loads of two trucks on the highway!

[@alexalens8921]

Danke, dass du dieses wundervolle Video hochgeladen hast.

[@noelgribble1004]

Great video. How many freight trucks would this save being on the highways. We need more rail freight in Australia.

[@sheilatrachtenberg8997]

We need more freight railroading in the united States as well. The train in this video took abut 425 trucks off the roads (at least until "last mile" delivery.

[@TESSY369]

Great video, thanks for sharing it. Never seen a train that long

[@packratswhatif.3990]

For those who have never ridden on a freight train either up in the engine or in the long ago caboose ...It is SO Cool ! In its own way, its very Serene.

[@JayJr2007]

Well said! Thanks, J

[@mauriciosalguero8902]

Impresionante formación. Excelente captura. Felicitaciones desde El Salvador!

[@ak13three]

Thanks for posting this amazing train!! I posed this question deeper in one of the replies but wanted to post here as well to see if someone knowledgeable can answer. How do the 4 engines sync their pulling power? What makes say engine number 3 pull with the precise amount of force so that engine 3 and the following section does not become engine 1 or engine 2's burden to pull. On the same lines, do they also brake in tandem so as to "share" the burden of slowing the monster down?.

[@JayJr2007]

The FTO software controls each locomotive throttle and dynamic brakes independently via wireless connectivity depending on where that DPU is on a hill or a corner. The computer knows how to prevent slack action and other handling issues. Soon enough there will be no crew at the healm; at the very least they will be working from home. Its high time Canada went to positive train control anyway. Cheers & thanks for watching. Jason

[@MrSoulMonk]

Oh boy! The train was long enough to circle the earth- a true monster train.

[@accipitermagna7104]

How do they coordinate when to speed up / slow down? Instant communication via electronics or people? And where can this train fit? Do they break off into parts so they can pull in a rail port?

[@JayJr2007]

The lean unit radio controls the DPU units. When they pull into Vaughan intermodal, the train is broken down. Thanks, J

[@accipitermagna7104]

@@JayJr2007 Woah, thanks. Could you make an estimate on how much weight this train carried? I'm thinking about 12 thousand metric tonnes.

[@pcorf]

Plenty of power needed in this 181 car (overall including locomotives) lashup. The ES44AC's do a great job. I like how the locomotives are in different sections of the train, front, 1/3, 2/3, and rear. But 6x SD40-2's would be better, much more noise!

[@gordmerrick7336]

It seemed the distributed power was perfectly matched strategically for this train. Much despised but top notch railroader Hunter Harrison when he was CEO insisted on this sort of matching enabling CP Rail to reduce the stable by some 500 locomotives saving many many $$ in leasing costs. That stretch of mainline between Essa and Tottenham on the Mactier Sub used to need pusher engines coming uphill from Lambton Yard Toronto in the days of steam.

[@guelphjunction6633]

Gord Merrick Look at the date of this video. This was before H.H. arrived at CP. Long intermodal trains with remotes were running in 2008.

[@CottagebumHeavyHauler]

I often haul rail maintenance equipment for CN, and as awesome as seeing these beastly Intemodal trains pass by is, waiting for track clearance sucks. Especially when there are 140+ cars, and they're only doing 25kph coming off of a siding. I've spent upwards of 3 hours waiting trackside because my track protection couldn't get me a 45 minute window to mount, load and dismount the crossing. Still cool to see trains this size up close though. Great video too!

[@JayJr2007]

Yep, if you work for or on the railroad know your day is going to be spent waiting unless you have a work block. Thanks for dropping by. Jason

[@saturno350]

177 wagons and 4 locomotives, wow!! 👏👏👏

[@pokeyrailfanning]

Carles G. 177 Intermodal Cars And 4 Ac4400Cw Canadian Pacific Diesel Locomotives.

[@mmb2879]

Very Very Large!!

[@NathanElcoate]

@@pokeyrailfanning they weren't all Intermodals.

[@jacquelineodwyer7688]

That's The longest goods train I've ever seen in my life. I even tried counting them all. That beats the guinness book of records.😄

[@flyingcyril2672]

177 ;)

[@megatrains]

MEGA!!!!!!!!!!!! Love the DPU's screaming by!!!

[@paullawlor7552]

That's what I call a freight train!....the ones over here in the UK are measly by comparison!

[@demil3618]

About 180 cars (DPUs included). 80t each car?

[@jonlewis1072]

As JayJr pointed out nearly all the wagons are double stacked so not 7000 tons may be 14000 tons sorry if my mis calculation caused any problems

[@trainsvideos8636]

Nice video and train...Great work!!...Big like from Romania!!!!!!

[@JayJr2007]

Glad you liked it

[@herzschlagerhoht5637]

Fantastic video, thanks a lot!

[@JayJr2007]

Thanks for watching! J

[@rxramblingrose4857]

Distributed Power Unit DPU Lovely catch 👌 👏

[@JayJr2007]

Thanks a lot 😊

[@Ajay_Kumar-uq8rd]

I second the motion on jaw dropping clip. Which place is this.

[@JayJr2007]

Essa, Ontario, Canada. Cheers, J

[@prathameshpimputkar]

176 cars double stacked. Thats close to 340 containers. Amazing.

[@CottagebumHeavyHauler]

@Prathamesh Pimputkar don't forget, many of those wagons had 2 20' cans on the bottom. I wasn't counting too closely, but I'd hazard a guess at 380-390 containers in total...

[@CENTEXRailProductions]

Nice! Was those two tones at the end a signal sent to the crossings to lift the arms up? If so, they on the same freq as the sub?

[@JayJr2007]

No that was someone making a call out. Probably the train.

[@markhoezee6292]

Any advantage having the engines in various spots in the train vs. all up front?

[@JayJr2007]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_power

[@oscarbobadillaayala5534]

Saludos desde México excelente día un hermoso tren el más largo que he visto 4 locomotoras con todo su poder de fuerza felicidades por el vídeo. Me apasionan los trenes gracias por compartir.

[@joseluisvazquezvargas6582]

Cuanta energía cinética Dios mío . Es el mejor transporte y más económico. Me apasionan las locomotoras , desde las primitivas de vapor.

[@JayJr2007]

Hello from Canada. Thank you! Cheers, J

[@KyleMurph09]

Was this around baldwick lane? Maybe sunnidale rd?

[@JayJr2007]

That's the spot. :)

[@KyleMurph09]

@@JayJr2007 sweet! I go there a lot to watch the trains

[@JoshuaTheTransitProdigy]

**Subscribed** Beautiful. Just beautiful. They're hauling outta there. What's the speed restriction in that part?

[@SilverCometMedia]

Restriction? The only restriction is the max speed of the engines. They way it was flying looks like theres no restrictions.

[@nerktwins7023]

Speed limit is probably 50 to 60 mph.

[@JayJr2007]

55 MPH

[@lucasserrano8004]

CP AC4400 Have ES44 Traction motors and trucks?

[@brickboystudios7214]

1-55-1-63-1-59-1. Very even weight distribution

[@milepost4846]

Wow! Never seen DPU's positioned like that with train split into 3 sections.

[@josephinebennington7247]

Does the double stack mean there are no bridges on this line, or anywhere that double stackers are hauled? Couldn’t happen in the Uk.

[@JayJr2007]

Mainlines in Canada have the clearance for double stack intermodal including the tunnel under the Detroit River to the USA: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYqwdaOYbrqUlbM

[@TheETRRailfan01]

What camera did you use?

[@chrisackerley1842]

I count 177 cars. First time I've ever seen single unit mid-train power staged at 2 different points in the train. Impressive.

[@studioxps72]

I got 177 plus 4 engines 181

[@hughhynes7351]

New to train videos. Is the crew only the 2 in the lead engine?

[@JayJr2007]

That is correct; the other locomotives are unmanned and controlled remotely. Cheers, J

[@pickleman3706]

0:58 so I see the train pulling the cars, but at 1:57 I see another cab going in reverse. So is the cab at 1:57 also helping pull, or is just connected on? Also at 3:15 theres another cab so is there also a person in there controlling that cab and helping pull, or is it just connected? In kinda confused someone pls tell me.

[@corrybouwers9018]

Theres a crew controlling the leading engine upfront and the other three engines are all there helping to push/pull because of the size of the train. Those three are all being controlled from the leading unit.

[@dragonmeddler2152]

Always wondered...what sort of control is maintained on the mid and end locomotives. Would have to be careful not to overpower the lead locomotive, right?

[@JayJr2007]

FTO software controls dynamic braking and throttle wirelessly: www.ge.com/research/project/trip-optimizer-railroads

[@dragonmeddler2152]

@@JayJr2007 Ahh...wireless, computerized motive link. Thanks, Jay.

[@johnpennington7107]

This might look cool but if that train gets hit by the detector for a hot wheel dragging equipment or if the train loses it's air and the conductor has to start walking that train in the middle of the night in the middle of no where with only his lantern no gun in the woods. Would you want to be the one walking that train by yourself looking for the problem then trying to fix it to get the train moving again?

[@christophpelzer2913]

4 loks, but how lang is the train complete?

[@JayJr2007]

~4KM. Thanks, J

[@Helvett222]

Great sound and train /\/ Greetings from south Poland

[@JayJr2007]

Thank your for stopping by. Hello from Canada! J

[@oswaldoortiz734]

Este ferrocarril es un monstruo,cosa impresionante,y a la vez una maravilla poder ver cosas coma está.

[@arthurmatthews9321]

Are all the freight cars through wired to allow electrical signals to the locomotives?

[@JayJr2007]

No electrical connections. Signal is encrypted wireless, They do occasionally lose com due to terrain and the locomotive will continue at last setting unless the brakes are applied.

[@timw8518]

Great video. Thanks for posting.

[@ennahh76]

Jeez, how long is that? Thats got to be a two or three miles surely?

[@tractorsmachinesro1405]

Great work...Epic images...Thumbs UP!!!

[@JayJr2007]

Thanks for visiting. JJ & Jason

[@bobgallo2178]

wow, what a train. Sure hope it doesn't have to go into emergency. Have been seeing more dpu's on NS in western PA.

[@LeafsVikes]

I’d hate to be the conductor on that if a knuckle breaks between the second last car and the last one. But on the bright side, the tail end DP is right there. Hopefully it’d have the right type of knuckle on it!

[@tcm140756]

DRIVER GETTING READY TO DEPART: ah shit i left my phone in the caboose!

[@ltdad613]

Is there a formula for how many locomotives and how many cars they push/pull?

[@JayJr2007]

1HP per Ton. Thanks, J

[@sushilover63]

i counted 176 carts and four locomotives .super long video I loved it

[@JayJr2007]

Thank you very much! J

[@rustyrailspikeproductions]

Wow 177 cars that sure is a monster!

[@christineallen7170]

Right let's count...1 2 3 4....121 122 123...dam just blinked....replay 1 2 3 ......

[@mrsauce9307]

Christine Allen Lmfaoo

[@isaiahbattle547]

Lol

[@murrayent1able]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@bobcats905]

Christine Allen 180 cars and 4 units.

[@SirGuinness]

@@bobcats905 I had 177 and 4 units. I actually started it over just to try and count them

[@lanun3206]

This is really it, watched until I fell to sleep😴😴😴

[@tomcline5631]

Why they scatter the engines like that? We get B.N.S.F. trains by our shop with 185 grain cars with like three engines at the head and maybe,not always, one on the tail. We do see BNSF trains with a double set in the middle occasionally,but these are invariably over 200 cars long.

[@JayJr2007]

DPU's distribute the power & more importantly the braking. Brake response time from head end to tail is really slow & a DPU in the middle can make a massive difference. The software uses different throttle and dynamic brake settings on each locomotive based on where it is on a hill or corner or wherever. FTO (fuel trip optimizer) software is generally at the controls unless intervention is required. It won't be long until the train goes without a crew. Also having DPU's improves air pressure during the winter months when they bleed so much air. Cheers, J

[@tomcline5631]

@@JayJr2007 Makes sense,thanks!

[@quintinmendoza9904]

Pregunta, a cuanto equivale la longitud de este tren ,?? Gracias de antemano

[@JayJr2007]

The math works out to about 4KM. Thank you, J

[@magnox8841]

Me gusta el sonido de las 3 ultimas maquinas. Un arte y ademas una elegancia de tren y complementa con el video.

[@stripervince1]

Now THAT my friends, is a freight train. Set up beautifully, no empties , helpers strategically placed, no possibilities of a string line. I was a freight Conductor for CP about 20 years ago, I worked on some monster 14,000 ton, 12,000 foot coal trains, but that was a absolute monster, probably a 15,000 footer. Wow. Hate to get stopped by a hot box detector. You just know it won't be axle number 25. Lol

[@nitanitara1288]

How many cars are in a train?

[@theturtlegamer3146]

That was the greatest catch ever!

[@JayJr2007]

Yes it is. :) .. lol

[@getdusty1]

Was that really 182 cars and engines. How long are those intermodal and autorack units?? That that and multiply it by 183 and you've got the length of the train. If the average is 60 feet, then the train length was over two miles long!!!!!

[@JayJr2007]

Intermodal well cars are closer to 75 feet.

[@getdusty1]

So, about two and a half miles long. That's a long train!!

[@heinzbreuer2674]

I Love THIS Video toll gemacht weiterhin good Lucky Train 📽📽🎄🎄Happy Christmas

[@JayJr2007]

Happy Christmas & Easter to you too Heinz! Cheers, J

[@andrebouchard972]

A lot of revenues in that train.Just love double stack and dpu.

[@grahamladeda8495]

That was an invasion not a train! Amazing.

[@phuchoanggia8499]

Can’t believe that this was posted 12 years ago

[@JayJr2007]

We have been at this a bit. :) .. Thank you, J

[@bazcuda]

Unbelievable. What an absolute monster.

[@cuznvinnie818]

Wow, only 4 units total pulling that long freight? Is that the norm for CP?

[@JayJr2007]

1HP per ton