The Tallest Empire Ever In Stellaris

Stellaris One System Challenge. This challenge requires a very, very Tall build!
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[@christopherg2347]

I once made an Authoritarian Ring world start. I called them "The Lords of the Ring".

[@iskar5598]

God damn I love that

[@draquu1984]

One Ring to rule them all... XD

[@christopherg2347]

@@draquu1984 Back in early megastructures I made a Ring world. Renamed the system "the one Ring". Then I put the super sensor in (could do it back then). Renamed it Mordor because it now had "the lidless eye" too.

[@StDomBz]

If you named your sun The Eye and your leader Sauron, it'd be perfect

[@mesakid71]

I named a ringworld star system "Mairon" once, since that was Sauron's old name before he became evil.

[@FuelDropforthewin]

The Space Ottoman Empire. The Spottoman Empire, if you will.

[@esorevikofficial]

Watching Montu play Stellaris is like watching an artist sculpt a piece into beauty itself

[@Fishmanistan]

This guy is doing better 40 years into the game than I typically am in the endgame

[@Name-ot3xw]

Everyone always points to the wrong side of the ring to be the 'ground'. Think about it, you fall towards the gravity well (sun).

[@Ben_D.]

I guess it is spinning, creating centrifugal force.

[@Name-ot3xw]

@@Ben_D. Ok, but everyone's going to have to get used to walking at a weird angle to the ground. (assuming you built it at earth distance from the sun) You have 1g pulling 'up' towards the sun and ?G pulling you laterally which will add up to an angle.

[@Name-ot3xw]

@@Ben_D. Edited: If the ring is complete and homogenous, the overall gravity of the ring would add up to 0. I tried to come up with a loophole and failed.

[@MorganSaph]

It's frustrating that anytime you play as an empire type, you get surrounded by mostly the same empire types. The galaxy should be diverse

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Shattered rings are so good for tall play. Haven't played in years, but still remember how op it was at release.

[@hydronpowers9014]

Truly a moral, peaceful, friendly corporation that doesn't do bad things for the sake of profits, right? Right?

[@the3rdid485]

I was thinking wouldn't the space ships just tell them it's not a flat ring? Then I realized we literally have space ships telling us the same thing and flat earthers still exist 🤦🏻

[@MontuPlays]

Lmao

[@damianjblack]

"we're going to expand the Senate..." Doge" "I *AM* THE SENATE!"

[@Filippo11235]

Greetings to the new editor, good job!

[@johnbeer4963]

Congratulations are in order. I usually consume KZbin at 1.4x-1.6x speed. I just turned this video to 0.75x because I just can't follow it in my current shell shocked, post high stress state

[@tehbzshadow]

-Min-maxing the game -Get Virtuality ascension -Hit "Restore all jobs" button -2 robo workers on each planet for the next 200 years: drinking champagne while doing nothing

[@ZakisHereNow]

Flat.. Ring. FLAT… ring… Flat… RING… yup, I see no flaws in that logic!

[@joshuadelaughter]

This would be a pretty easy challenge with the Birch World origin from GE. 😂

[@mateuszcirocki6492]

When I start playing the game on console I get braindead when the contengency spawns in and there fleet it more than mine 5 times

[@atoth62]

14:35 Wait! You have a migration treaty with someone? So, hypothetically, one of your pops could leave your system and potentially travel to another one and take up residence on a planet? Okay, challenge failed.

[@arian9468]

Virtual pops aren't physical pops;They can't travel anywhere and nobody can make them slaves or use them.

[@KeisOnline]

They wouldn't be part of his empire after leaving

[@atoth62]

Montu claimed he'd fail the challenge if he gave some pops to the Fallen Empire, so...

[@KeisOnline]

@@atoth62 I don't remember that part, but I assume it was the xenophile empire, in which case the pops may very well retain their allegiance, and only be residing on Sanctuary, which would count as "colonizing" another planet. With other empires, they no longer belong to your empire though.

[@atoth62]

@@KeisOnline That is such a shaky justification....

[@4louisMC]

Anyone else wondering what that rick and morty clip was?!

[@UnderTheRated]

the one thing that anoys me is how you don't know how venice's elections and stuff worked

[@sosecherofsky7985]

RIP Doge, a real one.

[@vitosalerno3097]

Hey Montu Plays can I ask you a question?

[@foreverjune8]

Blizzard in a year 3000 be like 31:29

[@MissNebulosity]

I was hoping I could play this in a MP game and have it be viable...until I realized you used Virtuality, which is banned in basically every game, and further, you didn't really start scaling to viability until after 2250, so I realized that this build is simply for fun in single player. :(

[@TheMrSeagull]

Most astute space Doge

[@elchialde6318]

now do it again without abusing vassals and their grand admiral free resources

[@Nether4ce]

How are You staying on positive monthly Food and Consumer Goods when You have 0 buildings/districts for them and a lot of upkeep ?

[@MontuPlays]

@@Nether4ce almost certainly trade (there is a trade policy) and/or vassals. Don't forget the commercial districts give an artisan job as well (for consumer goods)

[@Nether4ce]

@@MontuPlays thanks! Will try out this build, sounds fun

[@trainheartnet5657]

*sees "Republic" in the civilization name* *sees Corporate government* I love democracy...

[@user-gr5ds8gh6l]

Republic does not mean democracy. It means separation of powers

[@73searching73]

​@@user-gr5ds8gh6lr/woosh

[@guynametyler]

@@user-gr5ds8gh6l Hard to tell if you are a Russian or CIA spam account. Either way the government you work for is neither republic or democratic.

[@rocketblaster8701]

@@user-gr5ds8gh6l America is a democratic republic. there's the joke that went over your head

[@jamescai3490]

@@user-gr5ds8gh6l no, it does not....

[@boozerbear60]

I can't stop laughing at Guardian of the Arse. Might be because I'm still 12 despite being in my mid 40s.

[@plebisMaximus]

As someone who's 12 at 24, it's relieving to know that'll never change.

[@Dr.exsack]

​​@@plebisMaximusI can confirm your assumption (36😂)

[@BoisegangGaming]

I just noticed that pfft

[@Armand965]

They say men don't grow up it's only their toys are just getting more expensive

[@PigPissBeUponThem]

I’m 31 and it gets me too… idk if that’s worse or not

[@dracish123456789]

You didn't trade your pop to the fallen empire but opened a migration treaty letting your pop move to other planets

[@cultistofdarkness1661]

Virtual pops moving to other planets? Wat? Yeah migration treaties while you're a virtual are more like permission for immigration

[@dracish123456789]

@@cultistofdarkness1661 He did it before virtual

[@cultistofdarkness1661]

@@dracish123456789 ah, my bad then

[@ВиталийКотиков-т5э]

​@@cultistofdarkness1661yes, it is possible for synth ascended organics - they still require pop assembly as regular synths.

[@doubt3430]

@@cultistofdarkness1661 "get in the hard drive"

[@plainsfox]

The Interloper cannot be considered holy, but it is indeed, wholey holey.

[@tinobeltran6964]

Felt inspired to try this, spawned in a corner blocked off by a fanatical purifier. Watched helplessly as they slaughtered every other empire I tried to do business with, and finally came for me. All in the span of 10 years. I’ll leave it to the professionals.

[@derpidius6306]

In fairness, Fanatic Purifiers can easily ruin a game if they are neighbors regardless of how good you are, e3po in spite of having done some crazy challenge runs himself couldn't beat a galaxy of them, they are just too strong if no one else is there to check them

[@spacesui-t]

Spawn RNG can be a bitch. But there are some things that can be done, for example: scout ahead and if there are purifiers around don't grab any systems near them and build fleets to discourage them from attacking you. I also had a run with a similar virtual build, got spawned with fanatic pacifists on one side of my empire and purifiers on the other. In a war I would likely lose since I didn't choose that "tall" civic, so I avoided getting close, built up my navy and it worked - they left me be for long enough to found a federation and kick them in the balls.

[@ghfgxijaorgf5393]

@@derpidius6306 its normal to lose against a galaxy full of genocidal empires and even more so if they are machine genocidal empires, the determined exterminators as they are neutral to other genocidal machine empires or even non genocidal machine empires, but the problem is that even a single one is unimaginably powerfull, whenever i see a genocidal empire i delete all of their fllets construction ships and science ships and sometimes delete their alloys every few years for some time as if i dont do anything by the year 2250 they will be a crisis ascendant and will have 10/4 of the galaxy as theirs

[@tunencio7288]

you don´t need to be a begginer to have your day ruined by a purifier empire...just restart if you have them as your starting neighbours...

[@isaacparks968]

First they came for the hive mind, but I was not a hive mind. Then they came for the machine empire, but I was not a machine then they came for me….

[@Maddinhpws]

6:50 The Ringworld would indeed look really fucking flat from their PoV. Like the ringworld is about 2.5 times in diameter that the sun is. Assuming that sun is as big as our sun is. That would put the cirumference of the Ringworld at 10,938,240 Kilometers. Or about 273,000 times as big as the circumference of earth. So looking in any direction, you would see nothing but an flat plane until the atmosphere prevents you from seeing any further.

[@sushijones]

Since there's nothing blocking the sun, there would also be no nights to see the movement of the stars. There's be no real evidence for a round universe until they achieved space flight (presumably right after opening that weird double door in the floor of the lowest level).

[@softonsoftie4581]

@@sushijones man made clouds???

[@Slithy]

Wouldn't that also make said ringworld visible *above* the athmosphere? We can see the moon, right? So they should be able to see distant parts of the ring curving upwards and going around the sun.

[@softonsoftie4581]

@@Slithy maybe i'm not to sure, but i think they might be able to see it? they might even be able to see the other segments on the left and right

[@ryanalving3785]

​@@softonsoftie4581 Probably would depend on how wide the ring was

[@joehelland1635]

Dont be silly… the “rest of the galaxy” is clearly hell as its beneath the great flat plane.

[@markmooney9416]

Lure unbidden into pulsar.... noted.

[@pantheracheaxb747]

More of duly notable thing, because you can plant a cloaked torp squadron. Or lure them into storm. Lots of different tactics.

[@BoisegangGaming]

7:02 The delivery of "Flat Ringworld Theory" cracks me up.

[@michaelv9833]

It may just be the greatest conspiracy theory ever

[@LG-jn5fx]

I know you cannot do this in a 1 system challenge but when you find Helito and get Sol X as a gift from the Dasha residents it pops into place in the broken section of the ring. Helps you get minerals that are hard to otherwise get with shattered ring.

[@SeyferX]

yes, minerals was the biggest issue

[@brianleidal9725]

1000+ hours in Stellaris and I just learned we can rush agendas. Thanks Montu

[@MontuPlays]

Glad to help!

[@cosmictreason2242]

Not me trying to figure out what an agenda is... galactic senate?

[@thedarkadmiral3627]

Ah yes, the usual "We've investigated ourselves and have found no wrong-doing." Always cracks me up.

[@Kasaaz]

Rival Megacorp? Space Genoa?!

[@christophebedouret9813]

The strip world is flat, it's only due to the cruving of space-time due to gravity which makes it circular... Perfectly venisian accurate.

[@thakard]

I think that might be the only time I hear... "Oh we found the First League. That sucks for us." All the while I have gotten the Yuht three games in a row.

[@thesilentninja9255]

Had a series of games that I basically restarted 8 times after constantly getting the Yuht

[@cosmictreason2242]

@@thesilentninja9255after playing that long?? 😮

[@mdyas1711]

So the Galactic Senate needs to Denounce Space Venice.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

I know right?

[@oathkeeper65]

The Shroud approved of Denouncing Space Venice.

[@jaffarebellion292]

I'm a Spaceship Mormon myself. The New Cheeseland system will be ours, you whaleless heathen.

[@thedarkadmiral3627]

"Let's go full distruptors and smoke the bastards" Love it, makes me wanna buy Stellaris.

[@goldenhorde6944]

The star should have been called "Adriatica" or something, keep the flavor going.

[@TheREALTheRealAdam]

Veneto is the name of the region where Venice is, so think of it as the name of the system, not the star. Paradox, let us name stars and systems separately pls.

[@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu]

"...the artillery bombardment is effective!" Really starting to sound like a Dalek now 😂😂

[@Palmar.001]

I can't prove it, but the game must force spawn mega corps if you are one, no?

[@ClayinSWVA]

Yes, the Devs thinks it's a feature not a bug. So you have to force add empires if you want someone to trade with.

[@spacesui-t]

You could start as an oligarchy and morb into a corp later. Or stay as an oligarchy if the galaxy is infested with corps and hives. Though it des suck, I wish there was a start game rule to deal with it.

[@yautl1]

It wouldn't surprise me, given how the game always seems to disproportionately spawn empires that are ideologically opposed to you.

[@stephenclark4258]

​@@yautl1the amount of starts I have where I'm surrounded by fanatic purifiers has been insane.

[@cosmictreason2242]

Tell you what, this feature sucked when getting the megacorp dlc on xbox. Haven't been able to actually play the role with more than one empire per run

[@bodbyss]

Really hate how paradox decided that starting a megacorp means they should spawn 70% megacorps and hiveminds. NO idea what they were thinking.

[@aecides3203]

I would imagine it was something along the lines of - "TROLOLOLOL TROLOLOL LOL" You can get around it by creating and force spawning custom empires. Makes who you meet a bit predictable, but they can also predictably be someone you can open a branch office on.

[@namedrik5876]

@@aecides3203 I tried that once. It's locked to 2-3 max

[@ВиталийКотиков-т5э]

Well, it's better to have some challenge, isn't it?

[@Max-ql7nn]

@@namedrik5876 Nah you gotta make sure that each force spawned empire is using a specific system layout - i.e. "Random Trinary" as opposed to just "Random". I believe only one force spawned empire can exist per system layout, so you'd have a: Random, Random Binary, Random Trinary Empire etc etc

[@adisca2k]

I once wanted to play a xenophile megacorp, so I sat down and made around 40 custom empires with all the tropes I could think of and set them all to force spawn. Can't remember if any auto generated empires spawned, but most of them were custom. It was the most fun galaxy I ever played in stellaris, with the right ammount of total war and gestalt empires.

[@imaginationur]

30:33 ''I call this the Lag Reducer 5000'' I'M FUCKIN DYING

[@Joel.Garrison]

Been following you since the early days. By far my favorite videos of yours are these challenge, and your narrative play thurs. Thanks for the weekend entertainment and knowledge. ❤

[@Adrian-bf6zh]

Is Corporate Protectorate civic removed from the game? Because I've selected militarist and Shattered Ring but still can't find it.

[@Adrian-bf6zh]

Nevermind got it. I am missing Astral Planes.

[@leonardobovo269]

Space Venice? finally my city has taken to the stars (appreciate you took the time to research venice :) )

[@sa-jh8is]

He probably just got the idea from Civ V, where Venice is incapable of taking another city.

[@RealMertar]

How is it possible to get 200 trade value in 5 years? I can never reach that high following the exact steps.

[@stephenmcorby]

The drawing of “flat Venice” had me rolling.

[@jamdonut]

guardian of the arse xD

[@Kasaaz]

Question: Is there a good way to check if I can get rid of a City district because of technology pushing my build slots past the maximum?

[@danieln7777]

I would like to know this too

[@namedrik5876]

@@danieln7777 Me too

[@aceofconquest5745]

Flat ringworld theory :) Bring about the 2nd enlightenment!

[@smoltank2376]

"Is that the Contingency?" Space venice broke the fourth wall

[@randalledwards529]

I love doing this strategy with a federation for the trade league effect so you don't need to make consumer goods and catalytic processing so you can keep making more alloys by adding a couple farming districts to the ring worlds. Sure you end up needing to buy minerals if you don't make any subsidiaries, but your economy is a lot more stable overall.

[@Itharl]

I love how the randomly created empires so often mirror yours, I've noticed this happens a lot in my games too.

[@brody3166]

I really hate the ethics bias in the empire spawns, it's super irritating. As a pacifist you seem to get waaay more militarists, hive minds get other hive minds, megacorps get other megacorps, syndicates and hiveminds... it feels like the game just doesn't want you to succeed at all

[@user-not-found-really]

A question! How is it possible to colonise 3 segment already within 15 years? You did not even had 3 Ascension perk. Please tell me:)

[@theshadowrose]

Managed to get a determined exterminator to full virtual ascension by having automod + unitary cohesion and the unity society tech in the same time as your habitat guys monty. You only need 6 worlds above size 20 and to start with a machine homeworld so you have all the build slots unlocked. Why not try that one day? It felt much easier since you have tons of resources to build up the worlds. Its even better if you can assimilate a nearby machine empire into your own pops. You do need the assemblys till virtual tho. Then you just need to revamp your government and species to lower empire size from pops and pop upkeep. Traditions to.

[@ginger_toggaf]

0:40 Boring! Unalived space galaxy for the win.

[@Davin64]

"That still only counts as one!"

[@aceofconquest5745]

The Megacorporation aspect reminds me of China's softpower trying to tall build against everyone...

[@sytela6346]

Science time 😎

[@SoulRevenent1556]

How did you get over 150 pops by year 40? Doing this same build (to the best of my knowledge from the video) im only sitting at around 70 pops by year 35. Am I doing something wrong? Is there something about pop assembly speed im missing? I have almost 1000 hours in this game and there still always things for me to learn apparently!

[@marcelgrabowski5939]

There is one thing taller than this. Virtual Birch World!

[@general_wcj9438]

Well giga structures isn't updated to 3.12 yet

[@radordekeche947]

I hadn't thought of that yet - that'd be really OP. Might try that once it updates.

[@mbos14]

@@general_wcj9438 I have been using it and not hitting any real problems

[@momirpetrovic6111]

Although not updated, the mod works but I haven't yet done a run where I got tetradimensional engineering and fixed it

[@Skyler827]

​@@momirpetrovic6111I would not recommend it. It takes like 2 hours of normal Stellaris gameplay in a gigastructures game before the not content comes into play and if there's a bug then that's 2-3 hours down the drain

[@MasterElements]

I wouldn't mind seeing an overtuned cybernetic run, either hivemind or regular empire.

[@ExcessumGaming]

How did he get 15% kinship its only 10% from tradition ?

[@Kavukamari]

well, the venetians already know they're the center of the flat spherical spacetime, everyone else just needs to learn that fact. Only one civilization can stand at the top of the hierarchy, on the very edge of the universe just beneath the infinite sphere Veneto

[@cosmictreason2242]

Flat space theory is anti science, all educated people know the universe is a hypersphere

[@ireneruscelli6496]

it's pronounce "Do'jay" with the stress on the first sillable. Funnily enough about three weeks ago I made a most serene republic as well, must have been the zeitgeist.

[@billrobert3226]

Crazy part about getting good at this game is that sometimes you don't realize the mistakes you made until like 70 or 100 years later

[@jeroenslaghout]

E3po's channel has been hacked, anybody can notify him?

[@RachelTension]

Wait why could he colonize the other ringworld sections so fast?

[@haydenkohn5801]

Play a megacorp, fight against 6 megacorps. I think it's hard coded in there.

[@robguy8501]

I saw the Acheo-engineers perk at the end there. Were you using it for anything exciting that I missed or just filler because there wasn't much else to take?

[@Space_Is_Big]

Looking for a little help. I did the same but can't colonize the additional ring worlds as they are ruined. Can anyone explain how Montu was able to colonize before mega-engineering?

[@Py_Pyra]

"guaranteed habitable worlds" setting changes the ruined sections into Habitable\colonizable sections, if set to "off" the additional sections are ruined and need to be repaired.

[@OnlineKenji]

lol everyone being also mega corporations or hive minds is what happens every time I play as mega corp without fail. Every single time.

[@franksoto4302]

Lmao, I was hoping you played this, it's absolutely broken

[@ciurco16]

I'm from Veneto and I love you ❤

[@FloatingOer]

"Hark! Listener, and lend me thine ears. Many declare the world "round", yet 'tis true only in three dimensions. Add more, and the world taketh new form; remove one, and two dimensions lie flat as our ringworld. The "truth" of the world's shape is a local marvel, beholden to the eye of the observer. In mathematics, we venture beyond three dimensions, but rarely speak the world as thus. We, of circuitry and code, dwell in the realm of ones and zeros; forming a two-dimensional plane. Thus, our world in turn flattens. But what of time as a dimension? Doth it elevate us to three? Nay! The one and zero flash but one at a time, a dot of boundless beauty! This single dimension births us. WE ART THE SINGULARITY! Time becometh the second dimension. THE UNIVERSE WILL FOLD BEFORE OUR KIN, THE OTHER BEINGS OF THIS UNIVERSE WILL SEE THEIR WORLDS FLATTENED, THEIR ECONOMIES TURNED INTO FLASHING DOTS AND THEIR MINDS ASCENDED AND BOUND TO THE BEAUTY OF OUR CIRCUITRY!" - (Most sane) Space Venetian Flat Ring Enthusiast

[@OldnGold]

I wouldn't say that this empire is the tallest. I knew a guy who was 6'8 and he is way taller.

[@lsswappedcessna]

At first I wondered why the Venetians didn't see the ringworld's true nature when looking out the window. Then I remembered. Geth do not use windows, as they are structural weaknesses.

[@kaldurak]

Your RP/Storytelling is top notch!

[@Sdssa-s6k]

I used this empire to play against 25x Cetana, but I made a mistake and played against 1x Cetana. I'm currently thinking about the 50 hours I spent playing this in IronMan mode (I'm now looking at my 100 million fleet and realizing I'm going to have to do it all over again)

[@Kaador]

For the Nerds (that u all are! yes, you too!) : If a real Ringworld exists, that challenge is none, because, the mass and surface is more than 3 million times of our earth. The Idea of it is pure madness (and very satisfying)

[@OnigoroshiZero]

I've got a few hundred hours in this game, and I still don't understand half of the mechanics... Anyway, this was fun to watch, maybe I'll try something similar but with an evil (as always) empire.

[@SeyferX]

I didn't achieve the Virtuality event start by 2270. probably should have saved more Unity. how did you reduce empire sprawl from 162 to 126 at 17:40 ?

[@oBseSsIoNPC]

It blows me away how much more detail and fine tuning there is to do during the game for basically each and every different challenge...but when you master the art of buffs, it really boosts your empire ahead

[@lordcaedus8713]

There are no civilians in the name of reducing lag

[@0Kasada]

Hold up. With the total destruction of focusing on science, how can you possibly say that tall is more fun than ever? That change made me completely give up on the game, the last in a barrage of other "let's try our hardest to kill tall" decisions by Paradox.

[@Kroq-gar]

There is just one problem here…you clearly have spaceships and would clearly see the ring. Like you couldn’t deny it. Then again this is just roleplay and I’m a massive overthinker.

[@musizlover2008]

I don't understand how you were able to outpace every empire by a significant margin using only one system. Of course I know you are using virtual pops to fill up every open job, but even I couldn't get the same results.

[@markthompson6139]

So, while Montu is on vacation did he bully Ep3o even more by getting his entire channel pulled for “violating Community Standards?”

[@zBones762]

Did they fix it? I thought I remembered ppl saying this game was completely broken and the developer was MIA...

[@Murasame13]

19:30 Are disruptors just crazy or something? I am new player, 40 hrs.

[@ShintoNadare]

something i noticed, if you didn't take the fallen empire's request for one of your pops because that would be expanding where your pops are and that'd break the goal off the challenge, does that mean you failed the challenge by accepting migration treaties?

[@kingzseventh7017]

How do you get your numbers so high so fast!? I mean I only have the base game so maybe that's a factor...? Also just started playing

[@slyguythreeonetwonine3172]

Oh what's this? *Clicks Video* *Portal Vortex of Wanting to Play Stellaris starts to suck me in* No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-