Monty Python "Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune"

[@youtubeaccount7381]

"Strange women lying in ponds dispensing swords is not a basis for a system of government!" - Noam Chomsky

[@meowistforlife]

Distributing Swords

[@whodat8902]

I like how the guy just want's to get something done but instead gets a psuedo intellectual mumbo jumbo argument alongside arrogant over explanations from people covered in their own filth.

[@meowistforlife]

@@whodat8902 also no basis, not a basis

[@whodat8902]

@@meowistforlife all your basis R belong to me.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Yes

[@treefrogjohnson7514]

"Come and see the violence inherent in the system!"

[@MaximC]

Treefrog Johnson, Yes, and did you notice how they showed that if people come together, "the king" will have no other choice but to retaliate? 😊 Love it.

[@karlhans6678]

@@MaximC this is how we get rid of corrupt governments.

[@MaximC]

@@karlhans6678 Yes indeed, *but* ... the one corrupted thing that we need to get rid of the most (preferably at the same time as getting rid of government, by the way, of *any unjustified* government) - is the very socio-economic/monetary system that all (including governments) are drawing under - it's called 'capitalism' nowadays (private means of production, economic inequality/plutocracy, competition based "economic" system).

[@onyxxdrako4648]

You now have 666 likes comrade

[@jayce7646]

The funny part is, by saying that he acknowledges Arthur as his king. Only moments after calling him a Looney for proclaiming himself king.

[@samn5982]

I finally actually understand this.

[@MamboBean343]

I never will

[@MaximC]

MamboBean, Why not?

[@MrAtlfan21]

@@MamboBean343 anarcho syndicalism is based

[@MrAtlfan21]

@British Knight the competitive nature of modern humans derives itself more from our present material conditions than anything biological. There is absolutely no credible scholarly work out there that definitively proves the natural state of the human mind, and all that can be accurately stated is that when humans are placed in a system that requires you to be competitive; they're going to be competitive. This is not the natural state of human beings, rather it is the present state of human beings. Do no be mistaken and assume capitalism is the natural state of things. Prior to capitalism and feudalism there was communalism, which in its practice demonstrated the capability of the human being to act in cooperation with the whole for the betterment of everyone. Not to mention that cooperation is what ultimately led humans to their advanced status.

[@kurtberliner7049]

@British Knight "Can never work" Catalonia. Rojava. Free Ukraine. The Black Blocks across the world. The only time they "can never work" is when outside forces try and fuck them over. It isn't because they are flawed, its because when people actually try it, other powers prevent it from working.

[@SpoopySquid]

that peasant is woke af

[@jondavidgriffin]

no, he's a product of leftwing indoctrination - which was the joke of the piece

[@SnackMuay]

gorillas B large well in the context of the film, the alternative is a monarchy. I think I’d rather live in an anarcho syndicalist commune

[@condor7430]

gorillas B large and you are a product of rightwing indoctrination.

[@Ayavaron]

@@jondavidgriffin The "product of leftwing indoctrination" doesn't take any shit and comes off pretty cool.

[@gabrielnguyen5580]

American Caesar

[@MiokeDokey]

Dennis knows a thing or two about manufacturing consent.

[@frocco7125]

READ CHOMSKY!

[@Nordkiinach]

Who the fuck is Dennis?

[@dustybizzle1]

@@utopianeconomics5814 Dennis is the name of the woke dude lol, the lady in the filth with him calls out to him at roughly 1:00

[@t.c.6920]

Big up my boy Chomsky

[@tadstrange1465]

Yooo my man Chomsky

[@robelkton7800]

This was my first introduction to anarcho-syndicalism

[@beh802]

Are you anarcho syndicalism now.

[@blacksunempire2878]

The funny part is this is exactly what would happen under any anarcho- prefixed system. Some dude would just gain a bunch of followers, then go around pillaging and killing everyone else. Anarchism has already been tried, it was tried in the stone-age, and it failed miserably to all other systems.

[@g.h7657]

The funny part is this is exactly what would happen under any capitalist/imperialist system. Some dude would just gain a bunch of followers, then go around pillaging and killing everyone else. capitalism has already been tried, it was tried in the stone-age, and it failed miserably. Unfortunately some still cling to the head bashing to steal others food..

[@LB-uw8nq]

The funny part is, communism has also already been tried, yadda yadda yadda.

[@davidbray5982]

@@LB-uw8nq yikes

[@clareomarfran]

“... not some farcical aquatic ceremony.” Kills me every time.

[@herbsuperb6034]

I love the 'moistened bint' line. Whole skit is flippin' great!

[@amaeliss7827]

It's "some watery tart" for me

[@oliverswartz4891]

There is another hidden joke in this movie where one person comments that "he must be a king or something" to which the other person asks "how do you know" and the first person replies " he doesn't have shit all over him"!

[@MaximC]

Oliver Swartz, Meaning - he doesn't work/isn't working class?

[@pem428]

Or maybe just ain't a schmuck. The world so just one view, not everything fits in a box including typical stereotypes. Working class is just as often as unethical as the non working "elites". Main reason I've backed out of getting involved with groups until observing them for a while. More often than not it becomes apparent there is an ego heiarchy structure, unspoken but there. There a few exceptions. The road ahead is long keep true to your heart but don't leave truth behind.

[@Kaine667]

@@pem428 That's some counter-revolutionary liberal bullshit. The working class do not have enough economic and political power for their "unethical" actions to hurt people on a global fucking scale. The working class will never, for example, lend out sub-prime loans, bet against those loans, and tank the world's economy ruining countless lives. And if they some how managed to do that, do you think they would also have the most powerful governments in the world already bankrolled as to not only save their asses from facing any justice, but to get bailed out on top of it? It's about power dynamics, and not letting a small group of people wield so much of it that it crushes everyone around them.

[@garbagetrash2938]

​@@Kaine667 the working class commits petty crime because of lack of power/capital. The ruling class commits large-scale acts of corruption to maintain their power and capital.

[@jeffreysommer3292]

Well, it was the Dung Ages...

[@Murdoch_Industries]

hydraulic press the bourgeois

[@JourneyLT]

It is extremely dangerous and may attak at any time, so we must deal with it.

[@Muykle]

If income inequality reaches a certain point, there will inevitably be theft. If people don't voluntarily accept that inequality that leads to their starvation, the people hoarding wealth will not sit idly by while the less affluent take back their resources. The more affluent will buy the services of violent people to protect their private property. What stops those that acquired too much wealth from violating the NAP?

[@Muykle]

Exactly. There are no other means of doing economics other than modern Neoliberal capitalism and Stalinist communism. All other economic systems do not exist and can not exist. LOL

[@Muykle]

HowToComputer, You seem to be looking at a superficial definition of Communism. Communists, and Anarchists have a focus on who controls the means of production, not what degree that the government controls the economy. Communists want to seize control over the means of production and abolish private property (which is different than personal property). They want to take over the state and have the state take over the means of production. This period is called socialism. During this time, the state uses its power to fight off foreign threats and adjust people to life in autonomous collectives. Once everyone is in autonomous collectives, that government type will be called "communism". Anarchists all want to abolish all unjustified hierarchy. How they do this varies because there are so many brands of anarchy. Other than wishing to abolish hierarchy, Anarchists are divided on how things should be run and how their goals will be achieved. The end goal of Communism and Anarchism are the same thing: they want small autonomous regions with federalized representative leadership. (Some brands of anarchy disagree with this.) Libertarians and Ancaps sometimes find the ideas of Mutualism interesting. Mutualism is a form of anarchy that believes in using currency, but against the hoarding of resources.

[@Muykle]

Please tell me. What anarchist groups are you talking about that killed millions? There are certainly weaknesses in anarchism, but it is not corruption. Can you apply the same metrics of death by capitalism? There are real issues with the Bolshevik revolution like the loss of farming knowlege that lead to starvation. There is starvation in our capitalist system. Do you count the wars and pollution, the political executions (which both capitalists and communists both did alot of)?

[@dplonker6140]

This scene is far more based than I remember. I could've sworn the scene was poking fun at the obscurity of the ideology but re-watching the clip it would seem the writers actually knew a lot about the subject. Never let it be said the Pythons weren't masters of their craft!

[@Smoomty]

This is pretty surface level stuff concerning anarcho-syndicalism. Maybe you are just impressed because it is wordy and sounds intelligent. A lot of chomsky fans seem to think clip is supporting what they think when it really is just making fun of them.

[@MrOzzification]

@@Smoomty I think if you've only ever been exposed to post-2010 political discourse and media that intensely misrepresents and bad faith about its opposition; then one could be forgiven for thinking that something like this, at least "gets it" when its comparatively less outright dishonest.

[@Smoomty]

@@MrOzzification I think that would be a pretty lame excuse for not understanding that you're being made fun of

[@osurpless]

Both sides get their licks; Arthur sighing at the obtuse nature of their procedural system. And Dennis for rightly pointing out that extending the mythology justifying a monarchy would only lead to questions of legitimacy right quick.

[@lowkoalatee4033]

@@Hurricane_Manners lol u fail to recognize that comedians want reactions from both sides but its more hilarious to compare what each sides reactions are.. the right wingers see this and just “ooh haha leftist are made fun of” whilst leftist see this and just say “wow pretty smart on how accurate they explain it clearly” The joke should be on how you interpret it and how others see your reactions to it and who receives the info and how they react to it Its telling what kind of person a person is based on how they take info and seeing right wingers reactions and how they take this is pretty funny because its missing the point considering that reactionary people would just make fun of something rather than yk taking in the information given at hand

[@icewink7100]

This but unironically

[@xw213xlastname8]

lmao :D

[@xw213xlastname8]

[@tantarudragos]

Special ed gang

[@benjaminr8961]

Yup any system of anarchy will probably look just like this. Except more starving.

[@jays2551]

@@benjaminr8961 read up on it, there's a lot of disinformation about anarchy, to the point where most people just automatically associate it with chaos despite not thinking too deeply about it. proudhon is a really good author, and so is bakunin. anarcho-syndicalism theory and practice by rudolph rocker is excellent too, and it's a pretty short book that goes over history and future potential of ansyn collectives. even if you still disagree with it afterward, a lot of the works on it are fascinating! it's a lot more complex and cohesive than most people think.

[@james192599]

Meanwhile in a workplace... Boss:hey pick up that crate and bring in here! Worker: No Boss: I am your boss do it! Worker: I didn't vote for ya!

[@clayton717]

This but unironically

[@peterkrothotkin8700]

@@clayton717 Hi ho, hi ho, the gallows the bosses must go

[@TheEuphonium412]

Simön Faur is it a choice when the alternative to working is starvation?

[@TheEuphonium412]

Simön Faur if you are the modern day equivalent of a peasant, you often don’t have that choice. When you’re extremely poor, you don’t have the option to stop working to find a new job.

[@TheEuphonium412]

Simön Faur I also think voting for your boss is a misnomer, because if someone is your boss, they have power over you due to the fact that they own the business itself. That power is coercive, no matter to what extent. I believe that that power dynamic is unjustified, just as a watery tart handing swords is not a valid basis of government. I concede that my language was less than concise and I did misread your comment as a critique of anarchism, instead of what I now assume was a critique of method of implementation. So I apologize for any misinterpretations that stem from that. More of my point is that these kind of structures as they exist are unjust, and we should actively engage in discussion about how to justly and swiftly reorganize our society without trampling on people’s freedoms.

[@cyanXbacteria]

"i thought we were an autonomous collective"

[@hemprope4326]

Chaz lol

[@TheSilael]

@@pygmalion8952 only the right-wingers here in America are like that. They hear one keyword and think "every [blank] is exactly the same!" Some of them even call us Leftists "Socialist communist fascists" and also think Bernie Sanders is a true far-left Socialist, it's very sad. They're allergic to research and knowledge.

[@lettuceman9439]

Tribal community he meant

[@anti6112]

@@hemprope4326 Chop was not socialist, not anarchist, & not even a true "autonomous zone", that's why they changed the name of it. It wasn't trying to be autonomous, it was just liberals wanting no police.

[@GeldtheGelded]

@@TheSilael Silence Communist

[@niveditatewary2012]

I feel like this summarises every conversation I have with a non anarchist.

[@pixeldoor4792]

Pretty much this, just you repeat the exact same explanation over and over again with them lobbing a slightly different argument each time thoroughly explained by the prior.

[@f0rk723]

Anarchism bad! anarxhist no iphone🤔🤔 u say state bad but u live in state🤔 Curious

[@giveherheadnotheadaches]

@@f0rk723 I love this💀

[@dulvab9968]

@@f0rk723 anarchy is when messy

[@whodat8902]

You covered in your own filth? Haha.

[@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods]

After over thirty years, I can now admit that Monty Python made me an Anarcho-Syndicalist. Not this sketch, necessarily - just the whole damn thing.

[@tsaralexi45]

Yes this and also the works of Noam Chomsky.

[@drumraine6910]

Funny though, Michael Palin is practically the Queen Mother in his home country today.

[@JacktheRah]

Welcome comrades :)

[@JacktheRah]

@@talkeetnatattoos Well the conclusion is the right one. So best thing that can happen: being entertained and educated.

[@Bedrinonen]

@@talkeetnatattoos This is an odd sweeping statement, as it really depends on which actors and comedians you're talking about. Ever watched actor and comedian George Carlin, for example? The best comedy has always been based in the truth, at least at some level, as it pokes fun at the truth, which the audience can recognise. Satire is a form of comedy that is universal and political in nature. It is useful for pointing out flaws in our ideas about politics in a way which is thought-provoking, humourous and understandable, which makes the message more likely to reach masses of people. Or is your problem with comedians or actors influencing political thought, actually that political ideas aren't legitimate unless spouted by some professor in a terribly intricate and clever way, so ordinary people (who don't have the time or energy to read mountains of political literature, and therefore are obviously not capable of making benevolent judgements or decisions for themselves) shouldn't be able to access or understand those ideas? I fear for the future of our children and their children (and so on, and so on) if we continue to allow a short-sighted greed-driven system to create ever-increasing poverty for the insane wealth of a few, and decimate our planet's resources in the process. I'm sure plenty of actors and comedians defend this system, but so do many learned political thinkers, doesn't mean any of them are justified or correct in doing so. No matter how an idea is introduced to you, it is always up to you to think for yourself and try to figure out what you believe.

[@americangod]

The best thing about this video is all the comrades in the comments.

[@elpeopuru3003]

expljoesion the best thing about communism is the part where they kill other communists

[@elpeopuru3003]

at least ancaps arent tools for international capitalism, e.g. google, twitter, facebook, mozilla, macy's, walmart, starbucks, comcast, disney, etc. etc. all support antifa and political correctness 100 years later and communists are still the biggest useful idiots of all time

[@DoctressZ]

@@elpeopuru3003 I'm not like all those other capitalists- U COMMIES ARE ALL THE SAME

[@emmettchan5545]

@@elpeopuru3003 Imagine thinking political correctness is communist

[@elpeopuru3003]

@Emmett Chan Pretty sure I specifically said PC is capitalist, and that communists are just their useful idiots. Reading comprehension....

[@nachoolo]

The best thing about this after studying Medieval History in college is that these people wouldn't be that odd during The High and Later Middle Ages, as there was a fuck ton of peasant revolts during these periods and a decent amount of societies that based themselves in what we could call "proto-anarchism/communism". A great example is the Swiss Confederation, which has its origin in the Late Middle Ages when a confederation on rural communes (and a few urban) rebelled against the Habsburg hegemony in the 14th Century a gained independence.

[@nachoolo]

@Hernán Chadtés Tell that to the Swiss.

[@nachoolo]

@Hernán Chadtés And the Flemish, the Common of Northern Spain, the Comuneros Revolt in Castille, the Ciompi Revolt in Florence... The political consciousness of the Common already existed long before the French Revolution. Saying otherwise shows your ignorance.

[@fryncyaryorvjink2140]

We like to think ancient people were stupid, but evolution is slow meaning they had very similar brains to us. True, you usually couldn't get an education if you were poor, but again, many kids try not to be educated today, acting up in class instead.

[@CodaMission]

Certified Wat Tyler moment

[@chillingleague1244]

​@@nachoolo how do you consider cossack Host system of self-governance?

[@cloongeorgy7553]

every time i watch a monty python clip lately, i realise more and more how much ahead of their time they were

[@mitenka222]

Открыли Америку). Правда, недостаток режиссуры в жестокости подачи мнения.

[@anarseniciste]

"You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just cause some watery tart threw a sword at you !"

[@JacktheRah]

One great thing about the anarchist communities is that they usually have no problem with making fun about themselves. I mean here are so many comments who really like the scetch and are anarchists. I really like that. Being able to laugh about yourself is awesome. Long live anarchy. No gods, no kings, no lords, no masters.

[@mitenka222]

нет проблем в шутках над собой? Ну не знаю)....

[@sinistersixty3198]

Onemanarmylol Lol oh my god u did it u single handedly destroyed an entire ideology wow

[@hemprope4326]

Let's see how that's working out for our buddies in Chaz

[@skepticmonkey6923]

"Long live anarchy" If you consider one month long lived...

[@skepticmonkey6923]

@@pygmalion8952 I mean it is a joke, we can agree on that, but if you want answers to your other questions ask the self-proclaimed anarchists who founded Chaz, not me.

[@tomosprice8136]

"If I went round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away" will forever be one of the best lines of dialogue ever in cinema history

[@christheghostwriter]

Quite possibly the best

[@abuliberalee]

Everything about this scene is pure magic. "If I went round, claiming to be emperor all because some water tart lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away." 🤣😆

[@nestorsdragon8057]

I love that the comments section is just anarchists nerding out. We're an odd bunch

[@TheRichPersonsDigest]

Projection?

[@itgaam]

Evil Sorcerer trololololololol

[@AlexRasengan1337]

You're a bunch of incels

[@jeeBisOkay]

@@AlexRasengan1337 quite the opposite actually but ok

[@Zen-cv2eq]

@@AlexRasengan1337 What? How?

[@CodaMission]

I initially thought, when I was younger, that the joke was to mock the esotericism and obscurity of alternative politics (like Syndicalism and Anarchism), even if I couldn't have put it into so many words at 15. 24 now, and I've reinterpreted this scene. I think the joke is more about the absurdity of "woke"/socially conscious/enlightened peasants. How on earth did they get so educated on their situation? _THEY CAN'T READ!_ Its a nice touch that- here's the kicker- Dennis is right. Anarcho-Syndicalism may not be your flavor of politics (it ain't mine), but Dennis is completely right about their circumstances. It is about class, its a feudal structure. Its a kingdom! That's absolutely a self-perpetuating autocracy. And Arthur most definitely got that crown by exploiting the peasants and hanging onto outdated dogma. So its also mocking our vision of arthurian legend, the past, and the middle ages altogether. Dennis is basically saying to us "you know this whole thing is kinda fucked, right?"

[@ThePi314Man]

Gotta say, I find it interesting how many people are like "you know, these leftists sure are right about a lot of things", but refuse to identify with or adapt the underlying philosophy or ideological tendencies. Our ideas are a product of our analyses. Generally, when scientists are correct about their theoretical models, the appropriate thing to do is... adopt and accept those models? Just something odd I often notice.

[@lowkoalatee4033]

Me lol i watched this in the past at first and laughed at the peasant anarchists then i studied some of their ideology and why and yeah i understand why now and damn society really have infantilized them truly that we now refuse to just even listen to some of these leftists and their “absurdity”.. yet we listen to some of the most absurd and tbh not so logical ideas of some people… cough Qanon

[@Sumdarkbusiness]

Okay mate

[@CodaMission]

@@Sumdarkbusiness ok

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

Theres business owners who have more power tham any kingdom ever did. Its just the same

[@Silverwind87]

Dennis the Peasant could've written Conquest of Bread, but Peter Kropotkin couldn't have written "Supreme executive power derives from a mandate of the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony!"

[@BoliceOccifer]

cursed pfp

[@halguy5745]

after rewatching this years later I feel like it actually makes fun of the king more than the peasants. if you stop and think for a moment, so many systems of power we take for granted in our everyday lives make as little sense as being crowned by a lake fairy. the peasant is still funny tho, great acting

[@SocialBandit555]

We need to do something about it. It's not right.

[@markusm923]

@@SocialBandit555 lets try make a movie about it

[@SXTransmission]

Well yes, 99% of people miss how a leader's mythology (and every despot has one, supernatural or otherwise), is clearly crazier than 2 meetings a week, voting and no overall permanent leader.

[@0truckmafk]

Funny thing, now that I'm 32, I get this now lol. Great sketch!

[@MamboBean343]

☢TruckMafk TM™" I still don't get it. I just thought someone on KZbin would. _May there always be feudalism in your shoes._

[@0truckmafk]

MamboBean lol

[@didymussumydid9726]

same here, goodness gracious.

[@mysteriousDSF]

It took you some time. I guess it's never too l8

[@metalim]

Get what?

[@chewie481]

I suggest you recreate parts of this sketch at your workplace. "Person X, do Y" "Order, heh? Who does he think he is?" "I am your boss!" "Well I didn't vote for ya."

[@user-vr2vf9ty2j]

"You don't vote for kings!" "Well how did you become king then?"

[@RAFMnBgaming]

Just fill the hole, hole filler!

[@partytor11]

"We're a cooperatively owned company"

[@stanislavzoldak2198]

You kind of vote for your boss by employing yourself under them.

[@TheySchlendrian]

@@stanislavzoldak2198 The other option is unemployment, living in poverty.... great vote...

[@babygorilla4233]

goddamn this seen was way funnier after actually having looked into anarchism and specifically anarcho syndicalism for a few days.

[@babygorilla4233]

@Hernán Chadtés ya but they bothered to accurately depict it.

[@kyrozephyr4624]

Can you explain the joke?

[@jonahnesmith7004]

@@kyrozephyr4624 the joke is that anarcho-syndicalism didn't exist in feudal times. The monarchy is being compared to modern capitalism

[@kyrozephyr4624]

@@jonahnesmith7004 I guess I already did understand the joke. I thought there was something else I was missing.

[@jonahnesmith7004]

@@kyrozephyr4624 well I guess further than that is just how politically literate the guy is. It's a juxtaposition. He's poor and lives in filth under feudal lords, but he's sufficiently politically educated. The humor is in the dichotomy there.

[@jimmyjoe8723]

farcical aquatic ceremony....

[@krackowkid6618]

Noam Chomsky brought me here !

[@MamboBean343]

ooh nice, what video?

[@krackowkid6618]

The one about Anarcho -syndicalism

[@KazisCollection]

KrackowKid Which Noam Chomsky piece brought you here?

[@krackowkid6618]

The one about Anarcho syndicalism. Check it out

[@RandomPerson-jo7cw]

"Chomsky Sucks" -Elon Musk 2019 That quote made Elon Musk look like a 9 year old kid trying to blame his mess on someone else

[@jamespeterson4275]

Damn. As a kid I thought this was funny but now Im PISSED when King Arthur cuts him off in the middle of his explanation because Im thinking I might be adopting some anarcho syndicalist views...

[@seetclear8947]

James Peterson don't. This is a satirical sketch.

[@ethanlei6527]

do, it’s a great one. amongst the actually funny satire here the points are still there.

[@familyvids2080]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2bbf3qGqdBqpNE if you agree with this youre an anarcho syndicalist

[@MaximC]

*Seet Clear,* Well yes, satire of ideologies that are not anarcho-syndicalist.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

@zipZIP Because he was telling the Truth. he wasn't really annoying, he was just too woke for this world.

[@blackflagsnroses6013]

This skit is always great. And yes I’m an anarchist.

[@herbsuperb6034]

Only somebody born into privilege into one of the most productive, free, and prosperous societies the world has yet borne witness to would describe themselves as an 'anarchist'. Real people think it's dumb.

[@deviantsemicolon618]

@@herbsuperb6034me, a real person who doesn’t think it’s dumb: 😞

[@herbsuperb6034]

@@deviantsemicolon618 Shows unbridled privilege you don't appreciate. Awful.

[@vitololol]

@@herbsuperb6034 wow you really showed that 3 years old comment ur notion of basic politcs

[@herbsuperb6034]

@@vitololol Thank you.

[@cmarie8790]

I wish all the anarchists here in the comments could get together to form an autonomous collective

[@tj-co9go]

Maybe we could found a discord serve lol

[@Panzermeiller]

i wish they'll do too... but they mostly don't leave their basement

[@missc2742]

Autonomous collective requires land and the ability to pay taxes for said land. Its extremely difficult to legally do sustenance farming in many countries due to this. Also, after hippies started their communes, many states passed laws restricting certain numbers of unrelated people from living on the same property. Capitalism depends on our inability to freely grow our own food and provide for our own basic needs- it's not an accident that its hard to do this legally under a capitalist state. I know people struggling to start their communes. It's purposefully way harder than it needs to be due to taxes, laws, etc.

[@oliveoil5278]

The pythons are great because they make fun of leftists but from a very informed view. It always sounds as if they themselves are anarchists or revolutionaries making fun of the problems in those movements. Really appreciate it.

[@nutyyyy]

It was very relevant UK politics in the 1970s which was a big part of why it appeared a lot in their comedy.

[@spiritualeco-syndicalisthe207]

Worker coops and labour unions have a big tradition in classic european industrial powers like Britain, German or France. We're culturally similar, but the mentality is completely different to the US

[@CodaMission]

Its hard to say they were making fun of leftist when Dennis is basically right on all counts. More pastiche than parody. But I take your point

[@dafoex]

And why not, indeed? You've got to make fun of the actual evils in the system rather than the cardboard cutouts, else you're not laughing at any person that actually exists.

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

@@dafoex tell that to neocons or liberal retards lmao

[@SeanKL107]

FOX News reporter visits the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (2020)

[@noneimportant5951]

More like anarchist catalonia

[@dukewellington7050]

If CHAZ was anarcho-syndacalist... But Its not so now you just come off confused and ignorant

[@frocco7125]

CHAZ/CHOP wasn't even really anarchist. They clarified that after a few days. It was a small community where people protested for 2 weeks and some goons got into fights.

[@johnwinchester6934]

@@frocco7125 oh and it was run by a warlord with crappy American made AK's that probably would have exploded three shots into a magazine.

[@stevenirizarry1304]

a better ending to the game of thrones: a bunch of peasants overthrow Cersei and install an anarcho-syndicalist commune in kings landing, where the standard of living improves for the small folk before Daenerys arrives to be crowned queen, Daenerys is unable to take the city because the peasants will stand for no rulers(they stormed the dragon pit and killed Rhaegal), so Daenerys burns kings landing in retaliation for their rejection of monarchism to protect her birthright as the queen of the seven kingdoms. thematically this would have made sense, Daenerys proclaims herself a "liberator" and breaker of chains, but when confronted with an ideology that threatens her birthright and privilege, she reveals to the world and the audience who she was all along, a monarchist wearing a hollow facade of liberation but rejecting actual liberation ideology when it threatens her quest for power that she feels entitled to as a white Targaryen woman.

[@danieleskridge3180]

Anarcho-syndicalism is a means of preserving freedom. Oh, Dennis forget about freedom! We haven’t got enough mud!

[@seedyoda5714]

"Oh! What a give away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, aye? That's what I'm on about!" That's me whenever a politician like Romney says something about the 47% who don't pay taxes.

[@leonrowe5445]

nice profile pic

[@TehIdiotOne]

Nice pics both of you

[@nestorsdragon8057]

Noice, so this is where we syndicalists gather? The comments section of Monty Python sketches

[@TwizzyEmpire]

TAXATION IS THEFT

[@seedyoda5714]

TwizzyEmpire Capitalism is theft.

[@JLippold51]

It's funny finally getting all the jokes in this sketch

[@Lambda_Ovine]

You know, we laugh at anarchism today, most do without even understanding it, but this scene shows us that the monarchies are goofier and more absurd... and we stuck with that shit for millennia.

[@garbagetrash2938]

And we've just replaced kings with CEOs.

[@xavierberthon2008]

@@garbagetrash2938 also, like the president

[@deviantsemicolon618]

⁠@@garbagetrash2938this is why I always laugh at anarcho-capitalists. When you ask them how they propose their ideal society be structured, their response is usually feudalistic, with CEOs instead of kings

[@basedbrit4206]

​@@deviantsemicolon618 why not have a workers unionism with a bottom up power structure instead of an inherently top down dictatorship?

[@denverdubois5835]

The thing about kings is, sometimes you'd get lucky and have a really good one. And as a king, a supreme ruler not dependent on elections, he'd have near-absolute power and be able to do a lot of decent things. And then society would prosper and remain happy and stable for quite some time. But with CEOs, magnates and hedge fund billionaires, you never really get a good one, because there aren't any. Oh, maybe once in a while there's a sort of neutral one who tries to do cool things and sometimes succeeds, like Elon Musk or Steve Jobs. But mostly there's just an endless succession of bland, beady-eyed creeps--venal, arrogant, conscienceless, greedy, and megalomaniacal, and in charge of SO much power it's terrifying. I'd almost rather take my luck with a royal family, especially in this modern era when they are no longer able to lop off peoples' heads at will, AND a little nervous that we might lop off theirs.

[@Mem0ryEffect]

This never gets old! And never cedes to be funny! Also, long live anarchy!

[@LuigiBros88]

I concur!

[@shermanbrown419]

Hell yeah!!

[@hash-slingingslasher1374]

+Revo Tweets hail anarchism and hail monty python

[@_chew_]

Alfred Gorman Nope. Ants have a queen.

[@LuigiBros88]

Stan Reydams All of us through mutual aid. Read an Anarchist book from a philosopher, or professor. Anarchism by Noam Chomsky is a great introduction to Anarcho-Syndicalism that is straight forward and easy to understand.

[@warhawk638]

Kaiserreich in a nutshell.

[@utahraptor4729874]

Red Army Robin the King is Edward

[@sirfirewolfe5647]

BREAK THE CHAINS

[@elijahlees8655]

Who would be Mosley be

[@toddhoward3846]

Elijah Lees dead. If it were up to syndicalists, he’d probably be executed.

[@buffaloc20]

@@toddhoward3846 good

[@powerist209]

Hilariously enough, this situation is rather common in the Medieval era. Though, mostly a jab at Hippie communes in the 1960's and 70's. At least the medieval commune being self-governed than a popular consensus of feudal overlord. Not to mention the lack of national identity, which this scene showed the villager's clueless about Britons, let alone Arthur. And Terry Jones is a medieval historian, who actually covered Peasant political and justice administration through the democratic council.

[@mitenka222]

Не вижу забавы в есстестве развития общественных формаций. Долгое и трудная история....

[@shivershins3730]

2:56 I like how he looks at the camera for help while being repressed

[@philipped.r.6385]

It's probably my favorite segment of the movie together with the witch trial. It's among the best satires that I have ever heard or seen.

[@mitenka222]

Трудно оценить когда не носитель языка....

[@NCTut-sd2gn]

This joke was so ahead of its time

[@BB-ez1mp]

So were William Godwin and Pierre-Joseph Proudhon...

[@vampireducks1622]

Let me just celebrate this sketch by nerding out a little to quote a favourite and inspired passage from Rudolf Rocker's classic *Anarcho*-*Syndicalism* : *Theory* *and* *Practice* : "Anarchism recognizes only the relative significance of ideas, institutions, and social forms. It is, therefore, not a fixed, self-enclosed social system, but rather a definite trend in the historic development of mankind, which in contrast with the intellectual guardianship of all clerical and governmental institutions, strives for the free unhindered unfolding of all the individual and social forces in life. Even freedom is only a relative, and not an absolute concept, since it tends constantly to become broader and to affect wider circles in more manifold ways. For the Anarchist, freedom is not an abstract philosophical concept, but the vital concrete possibility for every human being to bring to full development all the powers, capacities, and talents with with nature has endowed him, and turn them to social account. The less this natural development of man is influenced by ecclesiastical or political guardianship, the more efficient and harmonious will human personality become, the more will it become the measure of the intellectual culture of the society in which it has grown." (p. 31)

[@tackywhale5664]

You are not immune to propaganda.

[@someguy8521]

Nerd

[@walliegrab9746]

great fucking book

[@andreasmoser6365]

Who else is watching this after wondering how Charles III became king?

[@schr4nz]

Me!

[@nohbdy1122]

How Anarcho-Syndicalists act: 2:02 , How Anarcho-Communists act: 3:00

[@deanbean2106]

Nohb'dy 11 thank you, so true

[@PraxusUK]

0:58 how both of you act. Goddamn morons.

[@MaximC]

Nohb'dy 11, Wtheck?? 🤦

[@epiczeke7620]

Why are you putting us against each other 😭😭😭

[@caramel7050]

you can be both u know

[@Liam-be5tm]

When I watched this as a kid I had no idea what this scene meant but now I think this is one of my favorite Monty Python scenes

[@andreasandremyrvold]

Debunks absolute monarchy at least.

[@RobinHouseChannel]

Me watching this scene as a kid: oh haha so random Me watching this scene now as an anarcho-syndicalist: ...okay Monty Python... I see you

[@DoogieHowser18]

Love how it's implicit that despite them being smarter than the aristocracy, their simultaneously bureaucratic and horizontal methods have led them to fruitlessly dig through mud for the remainder of their days

[@BigIronEnjoyer]

"There's some lovely filth down here!"

[@dontspeaktoelectrohead1491]

This is what 99% of the comment section has missed completely. They're working the land with sticks in the first scene

[@adamrodger5351]

Yes, maybe, but it's not as if those who live under more traditionally-feudal systems are shown to be doing much better. To paraphrase the man dragging the corpse-cart, everyone but Arthur's still got shit all over them, after all.

[@aidank9893]

Dennis is me at every family dinner

[@maxrichards3881]

Agreed. My grandmother used to be English.

[@pinkl3monade972]

this was a required for our politics class... needless to say it is now my favorite

[@Curling12341]

happening right now in Seattle

[@MoishaAPD]

It’s weird how this actually explains it very well lmao

[@stalwart9887]

"Bloody peasant!" "Oh, what a giveaway - did you hear that?"

[@xenophile84]

"I am your king" "Well I didn't vote for you"

[@lawrencerooney2772]

Truly breathtaking footage of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle. Someone notify Fox News so they can air a segment on this.

[@Reinhard96]

Not available in US.

[@MamboBean343]

Sorry, there's nothing I can do about that. Blame the copyright system; intellectual property is theft.

[@antidisestablishmentariani8119]

MamboBean It's available. They haven't haven't blocked it... yet.

[@cutecommie]

SO MUCH FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT

[@MamboBean343]

+TheBlaflabla uh it's not exactly _my_ speech. So it's not protected.

[@somerandomname3124]

It is now?

[@willraven2302]

That peasant explaining everything is totally me when I’m around people lol

[@awddfg]

*_Damn anarcho-syndicalism existed 1000 years ago_*

[@jeffreysommer3292]

Maybe the greatest moment in the movie!

[@mrliberty1776ma]

My favorite part " King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king. Dennis: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. Arthur: Be quiet! Dennis: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! Arthur: Shut up! Dennis: I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away! Arthur: [grabs Dennis] Shut up! Will you shut up?! Dennis: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system! Arthur: [shakes Dennis] Shut up! Dennis: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed! Arthur: Bloody Peasant! Dennis: Ooh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you? " !! " “Some of us realize the self-evident truth that no election, no constitution, no legislation, and no other pseudo-religious political ritual can bestow upon anyone the right to rule another. Nothing can make a man into a rightful master; nothing can make a man into a rightful slave.” ~ Larken Rose !! youtube search : Larken Rose

[@Deb.L.]

It's farcical good fun! Everyone triggering one another!

[@adamrodger5351]

To push back on one point: as Dennis says, supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses. Elections, assuming they're fair, do bestow authority to govern.

[@naptownnerf3179]

I came to see the violence inherent in the system and I was not disappointed

[@awddfg]

*_"BLOODY PEASANT!"_* *_"Oh, what a giveaway, did you hear that?"_*

[@imienazwisko6527]

"You don't vote for kings" I'd like to introduce you to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. -To be fair, it didn't exist yet-

[@digge2210]

They did vote even for the Emperor of HRE, and in fact, a kingdom where they vote for kings, kings dont have that power, aristocracy does

[@intifadayuri]

Whenever someone asks me about my political compass I should just send them this video

[@samusofthe9th789]

I am a 37 year old anarcho syndicalist peasant. I am literally a card carrying Wobbly

[@rezidentura]

The movie has many great scenes but this is my absolute favorite.

[@WiloPolis03]

I love how this scene isn't even making fun of any governmental system in particular, it's just funny

[@lostpopcorns]

*looks at Seattle* yep, still relevant

[@KonyCurrentYear]

The Seattle Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in a nutshell.

[@ReaperOfPuppets]

LOL

[@MrS22222]

This

[@brettadkins4698]

They’re too fucking retarded to even understand this

[@Rosy2468]

Jeffery Dahmer - are you stupid or something? CHAZ literally made a joke quoting this and Fox News thought it was real. Meaning Chaz fully gets it and you’re some sap

[@Rosy2468]

@@brettadkins4698 your words.

[@comanchio1976]

Watching this on the day of the coronation ✊

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

Seattle, June 12th, 2020. Reconstructed colorized video

[@maxrichards3881]

They weren’t anarcho-syndicalists.

[@Finch912]

Based serf

[@TheWizardYeof]

One of the best comedic dialogues in history

[@Jeremy-Bearimy]

I want to hang out with this comments section.

[@cmarie8790]

Honestly can't we all get together and form our own commune

[@daniels5853]

@@cmarie8790 fr that'd be great

[@frocco7125]

me too!

[@Jeremy-Bearimy]

lets fuckin do it

[@MagicKamek]

im in

[@fergusondaryla]

FoxNews reporting about CHAZ brought me here...bless their hearts

[@culture-jamming-rhizome]

These peasants must have googled Murray Bookchin.

[@munsterlandr1644]

honestly makes sense for a collective of farmers

[@tazhc1]

Annnnnd this glorious clip makes its triumphant comeback!

[@HannahSaturnX]

The irony of all this is that if you listen to the commentary, the Pythons said they were actually intending to make fun of self-righteous posturing on the left.

[@Fishlip5]

the irony of your comment is comedy is subjective.Speaking as an anarcho syndicalist i find the sketch really funny.

[@andrewpearson1903]

They always did. Look up the bit (those who haven't seen it already) about the People's Front of Judea, or the Judean People's Front, or whatever it is :)

[@entitygamma1792]

Andrew Pearson I thought we where the popular front

[@andrewpearson1903]

Where did you even get such an idea? (mutters) popular front o'Judea...

[@entitygamma1792]

Andrew Pearson whatever happened to the popular front?

[@ljw5768]

This completely sums up the ridiculousness of Royalty. Why do we still put up with the nonsense?

[@MegaBanne]

Comedy doesn't get much better than this!

[@AlfredoPuente8]

He got a point, a lady gifting swords is a poor way of deciding a government just like a knive fight on top of a cascade.

[@ommeidhosseinalikhan9206]

Actual footage from Seattle CHAZ.

[@sterowentUS]

it's CHOP now!

[@hemprope4326]

@@sterowentUS stfu

[@cupwave2]

The peasants are woke

[@scammelle]

They sure do look like anarcho syndicalists, the same outcome and all. It all checks out! Brilliant!

[@adman1381]

Fox News fell for this. Trolling at its finest.

[@sense_maker1816]

I like how with the reference to the lady of the lake, they’re directly referencing that the state itself is predicated on myths, stuff like natural rights and the “state of nature”.

[@Westernwilson]

Still beautiful after all these years! Pythons rule.

[@thfreakinacage]

Possibly one of the best scenes in all media from all time.

[@matthewwitt552]

Best game of thrones ending possible

[@Brassman87]

I mean, you pretty much nailed it.

[@karveka4371]

One of the best scenes. I love the dynamic of a peasant explaining syndicalism.

[@joekale291]

Who’s here for the autonomous zone in Seattle???

[@nl9570]

Long live 😢

[@TwilightxKnight13]

Absolutely without a doubt the funniest skit from Monte Python! "Help, help I am being repressed!" Hysterical!!!

[@will_the_warlord8913]

Ohh this sure hits differently today comrades...