Moog Mavis // Review and Demo

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Starsky Carr

Starsky Carr

Күн бұрын

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@cortical1
@cortical1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Starsky, big fan here from Carlsbad, California. Maybe this will buy you a coffee or tea. Thanks for all the interesting and informative videos. Hope all is well in the land of my forebears. Cheers.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@archivestereo
@archivestereo 2 жыл бұрын
Best video on the Mavis and great intro to synthesis. Thanks!!!!
@kranz8507
@kranz8507 2 жыл бұрын
Always great to visit this channel.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one.
@dougr5187
@dougr5187 2 жыл бұрын
It's a lovely synth at an affordable price for a Moog. The problem for Moog is that we, as musicians / consumers, are now wonderfully spoilt for choice in the £250 - £500 range in a way that was not the case 10 (even 5) years ago. So nice synth but up against some worthy competitors (without the Moog label) for our attention around that price.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Good times for us synth enthusiasts. I wonder whether it’s a difficult market or a growing one with plenty of room for all. This is a nice way to get a Moog if you’ve always wanted one but could never justify the costs.
@ChristopherOrth
@ChristopherOrth 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr I agree with that! I think a person really only needs one Moog, since they all pretty much sound alike, so with this synth you could get that Moogey vibe, plus some unique tones, for a killer price. I'd argue this is the Moog to beat atm, actually.
@mr.irrelevant3588
@mr.irrelevant3588 2 жыл бұрын
yeah you can get a used Minibrute 2S for the same price as this Mavis.
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.irrelevant3588 2s / 2 is a killer synth too :- )
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.irrelevant3588 Minibrutes are VERY nice - I've got the original and it's the only synth that can sound like my vintage Kawai. Lovely stuff.
@earlsfield
@earlsfield 2 жыл бұрын
LOL love wavefolding drawing, its genious, it is exactly what it is.
@jeffblack5024
@jeffblack5024 2 жыл бұрын
It’s odd that Moog has that ‘mother’ thing going on. My mum is called Mavis. She’s 85, though not a grandmother as I was too into synths to bother.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
At least she’s still a matriarch
@AtticusBleep
@AtticusBleep 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Kev5565
@Kev5565 Жыл бұрын
It was my mother's name also, which sort of makes me want one.
@xdumpstrspunionx902
@xdumpstrspunionx902 2 жыл бұрын
are you able to run guitar pedals through this? like distortion and overdrive and all that?
@leopardtuesday8140
@leopardtuesday8140 2 жыл бұрын
I see no reason to get this over the Roland SE-02 🤔
@samprock
@samprock 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Sounds like wavefolder can't be manipulated from outside with CV. Twisting physical knob only?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's correct... I forgot to mention that.
@NickHowesAstro
@NickHowesAstro Жыл бұрын
Dude you have to stop ..you're costing me money !!! Picked up a moog yesterday .. eagerly awaiting delivery Great demo as ever
@reformskg
@reformskg Жыл бұрын
Thank you! great explanation and sound
@dazzjazz
@dazzjazz 2 жыл бұрын
Those patch overlays are a great idea.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the DFAM, M32 and Subharmonicon all come with them. Its very old school but works and also helps you to understand what's going on and start exploring yourself.
@m1lkb0n3z
@m1lkb0n3z 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you; good review. I think you neglected to mention that it has a "KB Scale" knob for generating microtones, which, like the wave folder, is not something one commonly sees. I believe I'm correct in saying that it's a strict superset of the cheaper Werkstatt, which is being discontinued. My main complaint, which also applies to the Werkstatt, is that it lacks a white/pink noise generator, which would be very handy to have in this package. Although you can get more complete synths in this price range, like the Behringer D, they generally lack a patch bay, so Mavis allows experimentation with signal routing and integration with other (Eurorack or stand-alone) modules that would be difficult with those synths.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did forget to mention the scaling. And I agree on the noise. It’d be a nice little addition .
@wakkowarner8810
@wakkowarner8810 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the patch cables that glow with leds when they have power going through them.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын
They're from analog solutions in the UK.
@michaelstevenbevel
@michaelstevenbevel 2 жыл бұрын
What are those other modules next to the mavis at the end when you put it in the moog 60 hp case? I saw the tiptop u zeus power supply but was just wondering what those other modules were and what they do?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a disting mk4 which I use for whatever’s needed! I can’t remember what I was doing with it in this particular instance - but it’s useful to have as it’s got tonnes of useful functions. The other is a Befaco mixer - to mix the 4 synths for a single output.
@michaelstevenbevel
@michaelstevenbevel 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr gotchya. Thanks! I just got a 60hp box for my Mavis and am new to the modular thing with the exception of the Moog semi-modulars. Wondering what I should do with the empty space after I get the power supply? Maybe a mult. A little sub-mixer isn't a bad idea either.
@boxodrive
@boxodrive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video very nice, definitely worth considering because of the wave folder. The price is a bit steep for what it does but it's Moog. Would like to see a side by side with the West Pest.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe soon :)
@samprock
@samprock 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr TNX!
@paulw2604
@paulw2604 2 жыл бұрын
A very good, well described review. Thanks...
@callmemurphz
@callmemurphz 2 жыл бұрын
behringer model d or this? hehe
@isaacanthonydj4124
@isaacanthonydj4124 2 жыл бұрын
i have an KOMA field FX i refuse to go beyond 82hp of Eurorack (one 3U rackmount) i think Mavis, might make the cut... how many HP is it?
@CapRockout
@CapRockout 2 жыл бұрын
44hp
@BihlerOfficial
@BihlerOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
350 quid is too much for this one. You could get a Minilogue, Microfreak or a Behringer Model D. I like the sound ofc but the knobs are made for dwarfs and it doesn't look very durable.
@pheotus
@pheotus 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. And those knobs are way to tiny.
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 2 жыл бұрын
A Minilogue?!! Did you mean a Monologue?
@BihlerOfficial
@BihlerOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
​@@hulkslayer626 minilogue. quid= english pounds btw
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 2 жыл бұрын
@@BihlerOfficial hahaha thanks, I hadn't had my coffee yet so I didn't see "quid" 😉🤪
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 2 жыл бұрын
@@BihlerOfficial And yeah, I agree it is overpriced. It is VERY similar to their Werkstatt, but at only $150, the Mavis is OVER twice the price.
@SynthAddict
@SynthAddict 2 жыл бұрын
nice video I already have a Rogue, the Werkstatt mk1, the Moog Trio of Doom stacked (Mother-32, DFAM, Subharmonicon) and some other Moog bits good for new users or folks without Moog stuff, but I won't need it
@fjfrancois
@fjfrancois 2 жыл бұрын
Good 👍🏼
@relativity6511
@relativity6511 Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@dmthandmade5674
@dmthandmade5674 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandad's sister rejects this synth entirely. She's Auntie Mavis.
@IceLocus
@IceLocus 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. That's what I call it too! 🤣👍
@DeGrale.
@DeGrale. 2 жыл бұрын
🥁🥁🥁
@paulcornwell5581
@paulcornwell5581 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they bring out a Moog Rita sequencer... ;)
@Ian-gw2vx
@Ian-gw2vx 2 жыл бұрын
I would probably go for this but already having just got a Dreadbox Typhon and the 0 Coast I think they pretty much have this covered. I may be wrong though.🤔
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got everything covered but can still find space to experiment with different bits … even if the difference is only trying to figure out how to use it!
@Ian-gw2vx
@Ian-gw2vx 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Absolutely 😎
@magicseadog8674
@magicseadog8674 2 жыл бұрын
How much could they possibly be saving having you do your own screws...
@georgegeorgio1751
@georgegeorgio1751 2 жыл бұрын
Good point I agree, I think this is so they can have a low price unit to compete against all the other cheap mono analogs that are available, as we all know Moog don’t like playing in the lower price range so this is kind of a we’ll give you a cheaper unit but you’ll have to screw a few things together that will take like 3 mins , they may as well have put it together I’m sure the extra labour would have only cost them like $10- $20 more. I’ve previously had the slim phatty no way would I go for a basic single osc mono like this but maybe a good entry level with typical nice Moog sound , but nothing to write home about.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a cost decision. Lots of folks will use it in a euro rack so having it unassembled is much more useful for those. Plus larger boxes are surely more inconvenient/expensive to store and transport. But who really knows? ... Moog I suppose :)
@georgegeorgio1751
@georgegeorgio1751 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Yes who really knows , I think Moog will start bringing out lower cost options if they see others gaining major market share in their neck of the woods.
@synthmaven
@synthmaven 2 жыл бұрын
ghooking 🙄😇 ( couldn't resist..)
@PabloSintesMartinez
@PabloSintesMartinez 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful sounds!!! I'll try to get one!!! A question: Where did you get those cool illuminated patch cables?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
www.analoguesolutions.com/led-cv-cables
@merbertancriwalli8622
@merbertancriwalli8622 2 жыл бұрын
0:54 nuts and tool in the same sentence. Bad Bad Man 🙂
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
I should've got a screw in there as well
@fromgreetings
@fromgreetings 2 жыл бұрын
!!!!!!!!!!IT'S GOT ITS OWN LID!!!!!!!!!!
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
There’s £30 saved right there!!
@adamfullerton8651
@adamfullerton8651 2 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@jensmandreasen2230
@jensmandreasen2230 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for pointing out what nobody else dared to say: The thing is darned near impossible to tune
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like nobody else has bothered to hook it up to other kit! Too eager to release a review without actually using it first. 🤷‍♂️😂😂 weird as it’s one of the most obvious pitfalls - tuneable but you have to concentrate!
@KiR_3d
@KiR_3d 2 жыл бұрын
350 bucks and no MIDI... It's "no-no" def.! Unfortunatelly Neutron doesn't have a WF block but it has much more abilities than Mavis. Also this need to link the keytracking to LFO to make it as a 2nd osc... It's ridicilous :)) There is enough space to include another osc. and leave LFO as it is. It's a very strange synth for not so low price. A lot of semi-modular synths are presented on the market. IMO it's not the best.
@KiR_3d
@KiR_3d 2 жыл бұрын
@@fibonacho Nowdays companies are selling "brands", not products often. _Some_ Behringer's gear is cheap. I can agree with this sentence. Probably I should compare this Moog's complex module (it's not the synth obviously) with Beh's ModelD. It's filter and oscillators sounds 99.9% exactly like Moog. I think it's a shame that Behringer didn't continued to expand this very good synth! Few features (PWM, HardSync... that ppl are making as mods now) plus the patch bay (with more points), plus a decent wavefolder... 350-400$ - it will be selling like hot cakes. Some of Beh's synths quality is bad, I agree here. They've screwed with the envelope on Crave. It seems like it was finished in a big hurry. I can complain about Neutron too. But my piece works good. Except that I can't update it online... Also their tech. support refuses to release the .hex files to upload a firmware via MS VisualStudio (and similar apps). It's the way that _normal_ people choose to upload a firmware to a STM32 chip. P.S. I'm sure that it's possible in this concrete way because some Russian guy did made a custom FW and did shown the upload process (released .hex of course). I'm not a Behringer's fanboy, be sure ;) Just looking at things on different angles to compare.
@Lord_UND_Himself
@Lord_UND_Himself 2 жыл бұрын
My DeepMind 12D and Blue Marvin are still singiiiinnn
@zeeshantar1q
@zeeshantar1q 2 жыл бұрын
This or the Malevolent?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Different beasts but overall I’d pick the Malevolent. It’s pricier but it’s a more fully featured complete system with the arp, keys etc.
@DJDigitalJosh
@DJDigitalJosh 4 ай бұрын
16:15 minor what?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 4 ай бұрын
Niggle…. noun - a trivial criticism, discomfort, or annoyance.
@DJDigitalJosh
@DJDigitalJosh 4 ай бұрын
@@StarskyCarr well alright my Brotha! ✌
@KiR_3d
@KiR_3d 2 жыл бұрын
WF is best with tri/sine waves. It's not useless with saw but it sounds pretty strange, not so pronounced.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Did I use the saw... duh... I had intended on using the triangle, but in the throws of the demo just must have gone with the flow!
@obezijana
@obezijana 2 жыл бұрын
For me, who's not an electrician, these cables are a turn-off. But they have other little synths with no cables, so this one just covers other demands. Wish Moog released Model D app for desktop. I have all their apps, but i can't use them in DAW, desktop Model 15 App is too electrical, even after studying the manual I don't know how to make sounds or tweak them on Model 15. Thanks for the video!
@hoagy_ytfc
@hoagy_ytfc 2 жыл бұрын
"Wish Moog released Model D app for desktop." I have it on my Mac. The Model 15 app too. I think it's actually running the iPad version, so you need an M1 or M2 Mac
@baconbigbeats
@baconbigbeats 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo you’re paying the Moog tax. (Name cost). Just like the Apple tax. $350 is brutal. I’ll stick with my NTS-1.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Mines just broken… luckily Korg have a great warranty and are sending a replacement 😀
@baconbigbeats
@baconbigbeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr would you take this over the NTS1?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
@@baconbigbeats absolutely, this is more of a fully featured synth - plug in a keyboard and you've got a great little unit. The NTS-1 is more of a novelty really to me - great little FX unit and a fun little thing - but not a serious tool.
@baconbigbeats
@baconbigbeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr alright fine. You convinced me. That thing is better hah. Off topic, I see you spent some time with the polyend play. Is there any similar device out there that beats it? Would you personally buy it the play? I’m about to pick one up and sell my OP1.
@WinfriedSitte
@WinfriedSitte Жыл бұрын
Unfortunate miss by Moog that the folder can't be modulated...
@IntiAlonso
@IntiAlonso 2 жыл бұрын
Im tempted, and I want to get a semimodular, but the Cre8audio East Beast is cheaper and have a lote more features, so Im not sure which way to go, Moog is Moog but....
@klstay
@klstay 2 жыл бұрын
Pass. Same price as a MicroFreak?!? Used Monologue can be had for significantly less; a Minibrute 2, BassStation 2, or SE-02 the same. Any of the far more capable Behringer semis for less. No doubt the BOM is a LOT better than similar recent offerings from Cre8audio, but that is hardly high praise.
@TheRabbitNoise
@TheRabbitNoise Жыл бұрын
That keyboard is such a waste of space
@synthmaven
@synthmaven 2 жыл бұрын
Euriorack 🙄😇
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Haha… there’s 1000s of them over the years!
@hoagy_ytfc
@hoagy_ytfc 2 жыл бұрын
Focus! :(
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
I know I know... even when setting up the camera manually it can go out of focus for unknown reasons, its been a real pain in the backside... so much so I eventually changed the camera.
@StephenMcLeod
@StephenMcLeod 2 жыл бұрын
12 minutes? GTFO. Took me fucking like 20. We should do a Mavis speed run.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Haha... couldn't you find your screwdriver ;)
@StephenMcLeod
@StephenMcLeod 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr I screwed them in with my teeth.
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