Moog SUBHARMONICON Full Tutorial with 9 patch ideas and pairings // New version reviewed

[@winddealer1]

The Loopop channel; where one can take away the perfect blend of entertainment, education and no nonsense product awareness in every episode. Thanks again for your guest and the enrichment opportunities. Gratefully.

[@loopop]

Thanks for the comment :)

[@olinred]

loopop killing my wallet though, you need to step up your CONS game

[@arnehurnik]

"Start reviewing worse gear I'm begging you." Careful, he might give you a deeper appreciation for it instead.

[@Sousless]

Finally! Very pleased that this synth got to mass production, was on my wishlist since your video on workshop version. Pairing with Hainbach is best pairing I could hope for! Hope you can collaborate in the future again! Outro jam is beautiful!

[@deerfieldself256]

Love how we get the "here's how it works" from Loopop and the "here's how it sings" from Hainbach in collaboration. Thanks guys!

[@helgarollner2106]

hainbach is overrated. He is good at what he does, but that's nothing Loopop can do and I'm sure he can do it million times better! Just a fact! Take a tape delay, generate some noise, record it on tape together with some clever chords, play it back, use reverb, play it at slow speed, and then move your hands like a "spiritual healer" and act like you're making contact with some holy ghosts. That's hainbach. haha Sounds stupid,. but that is the hard truth. Everyone can do what he does. But can everyone create music like Aphex Twin or Philip Glass? Like Hans Zimmer? Like Ennio Morricone?? Of COURSE NOT.

[@MisAnnThorpe]

@@helgarollner2106 Can Richard D. James make music like Morricone?

[@imbuildingasynth]

@@helgarollner2106 i mean i'm happy for anybody doing his thing on youtube, but that pseudo-philosophical introduction at 26min alone almost made me stop the video early. then the random and totally unrelated effects he threw on also didn't contribute anything to the video. "yeah well you can throw effects on this synth too" wow ok cool thanks. it felt like a forced promotional "collab" video without any acutal benefit for the audience.

[@niko9697]

@@helgarollner2106 Music, and Art are personal journeys for their creators. It's neither a race nor a competition. You'll always find someone with more skills and different backgrounds (art or life wise). No one's asking anyone to become the new Ennio Morricone, anyway.

[@helgarollner2106]

@@MisAnnThorpe you didn't get it, cause you're "simple-minded". Read my comment 100x, if you still don't get it.. well. I'm very sorry for you.

[@llanga]

The closing tune is gorgeous. Good job!

[@MONSIEURLANCEDRAKE]

Considering many of us discovered your videos with your original moogfest subharmonicon video, this feels full circle. Congrats on all your success and output over the past two years. Love to hear more about the updates they made between the original and the production module.

[@loopop]

Thanks for joining for the ride :)

[@aardjazz]

really beautiful jam, as an acoustic instrument musician mostly, i love these analog sounds that offer the same drifts and imperfections.

[@rodnee2340]

Thank you loopop because of this video I will not send mine back.😁 it's a beautiful thing.

[@ManCalledMif]

24:18 transposition of the beatstep’s sequence using Subharmonicon is a very interesting idea. Awesome tutorial. Thank you.

[@Eleth]

Two of my favourite synth-heads collaborating in what it seems another dent in my savings account... Thanks for another excellent review Loopop. Jams sound superb.

[@musicflight19]

Just bought mine and I was sort of a bit disappointed at first because I was kind of stuck but your review gave me impetus to just dove more into it and give it a proper chance. I saw several reviews before and they made me felt I bought the wrong machine for me, but yours is very inspiring and positive. Thank you!

[@alexbarn]

Love the collaboration with Hainbach!

[@bauhnguefyische667]

Yeah, his take on his channel was nice to. But the collaboration? That was just sweet as hell sounding.

[@oliveribasta5929]

The right guy to review this beast🔥

[@Daphoid]

Took awhile and a black friday sale - but I just received mine two days ago. Only spent 40 minutes with it so far but I already love it! It is very much above all the other Moog's and things I own - an exploration machine. Just having the patterns move around the harmonics is awesome!

[@alangreen7100]

Two quick thoughts: 1) A wonderfully detailed product review as always. Thank you so much for continuing to share your insights and expertise on these amazing instruments. 2) If you only had a nickel for every time someone has asked about your oscilloscope software over the last several years, I suspect that you could have retired to your own private island by now.

[@loopop]

1. Thanks! 2. What do you mean IF - how do you think I can afford those fancy holographic displays

[@cankutbayhan]

dude, from now on either you are obliged to give us such endings or we are to search for the very end of each video you've already posted...i do simply feel intelligent watching your skilful and you know, experienced approaches towards the art of handling these gadgets. ty so much. a pleasure to hit that sub it was.

[@tastelesstouch]

loopop has the best synthesizer review videos by far. Your videos are always informative and are excellent quality. So glad I found your channel!

[@mooretto]

Once again, Loopop makes all the other video reviews on KZbin redundant. Great job and thank you!

[@lurto303]

HEY MR LOOPOP FYI I LIKE TO LISTEN TO YOUR VIDs WHEN IM COOKING

[@jumpingman8160]

I listen when I'm Ironing :D

[@Dudderlyful]

Synth people are my people

[@cold_fashioned]

Haha - I listen to most of these while doing the dishes!

[@jaysgood10]

Well, I run out and buy one and follow along.

[@josehaya6362]

just before i go to bed :)

[@doctorauxiliary]

this was immensely useful. I'm adding the subharmonicon. it's a no-brainer for someone like me who's always searching for new & unusual timbres. also, I love the jam at the end--though it faded out right as it got even more magickal. that was messed up, ziv. ;-) & it was great to see & hear the collab with sir hainbachm

[@DayflightTrok]

Fantastic explanation of the complex Subharmonicon. I tried it in a shop and did not understand its function and went away. But now it´s quit of interest again. Thanks for the great video.

[@rodrigolaporte274]

FINALLY! they made it! and even improved it! damn what an amazing synth. Thanks for the video it's excellent! and I specially love those small jams you make on these videos

[@valdiskrebs566]

Gets real interesting after 22:55. Great intro, outro and Hainbach jams! 😎

[@CleanConnections]

Wow I remember been absolutely fascinated by a documentary on the guy that invented the original subharmonicon, it looked and sounded amazing but they did not explain exactly what it was doing. So nice to finally know, thanks 🙏 Now I want one 🤦🏻

[@gershon2481]

I can para-afford this Moog.

[@Graffick]

😂

[@LuisFlores-xr5bu]

Good one

[@gershon2481]

@@LuisFlores-xr5bu Truth be told I’d rather save up for the Moog I can’t afford.

[@olivierguinard3350]

I para-understand this Moog.

[@klaun]

Behringer Spice

[@deffcord9570]

This guys knowledge blows my mind

[@seancraig5373]

Fantastic sounds-especially right at the end. Are those ALL coming from the Subharmonicon? Wow!

[@loopop]

Yes, but with FX (delay and reverb)

[@scottm8685]

This is the best demo I've seen so far for the Moog Subharmonicon. He does a fantastic job of breaking it down so someone like me with very little to no modular skill can actually understand. This is definitely a piece i want to add asap. Just from this video, I have many ideas of how it would fit in great in my studio. Amazing job on this video.

[@BURG]

Thanks for a great walkthrough, i realized i had neglected the subh since its release, and a one stop demo by you fixed the gap in my knowledge, thanks! Also a very nice touch to invite hainbach for the FX section, good one! cheers

[@loopop]

Thanks! By the way I wanted to reach out to you with a little collaboration idea ... what the best way to contact you or could you email me? My email is in the description ...

[@BURG]

@@loopop dropped you an email :) cheers!

[@jonaseggen2230]

I want that sequencer as a separate module : p What I liked best was the transition after the break at 32:29, and what happened afterwards. That was really beautiful

[@WeirdMedicine]

yes, Mr @loopop soloing with the oscillator pitch controller...amazing

[@kevinmcguirk3212]

Thanks for a fantastic review/overview of this synth. It looks/sounds like one of the most interesting new synths in recent years, especially at this price. Your patch ideas are fantastic, and the sounds produced with Hainbach were exceptional.

[@damian4590]

I just got mine today and its the most amazing instrument ive every owned. Ive played it for multiple hours straight. its been beyond magically and inspirational to use already.

[@bikesnbeerz]

loopop 101K subscribers. - Congrats man. Well deserved. May 12, 2020

[@tarqu1no39]

Just had to say I’ve been waiting for this to hopefully come out since your first review, it’s returned with knobs on! I’ll keep watching and stop gushing now!

[@genx1144]

Loopop, I like your review. Thank you. You have sold me on many synths and a few controllers.

[@RobertAdachi]

Another excellent job. The music towards the end is so beautiful and inspiring that it makes me want to purchase one.

[@UberSynth]

When you demonstrated those subharmonics, it sounded broken. I love the Moog and those quality knobs.

[@PaulBoos]

Definitely a great synth (I went and bought it after Hainbach's vid) Love your stuff on this - sounds so beautiful and I loved some of the great pairing ideas you showed. Thank you!

[@ppilasiewiczz]

Thanks to your first Subharmonicon review, I started to dream about this extraordinary synth. And I’ve got one, finally :) Now I am trying to route it through external filter (Matrixbrute). Still can’t build the right patch, but found many unexpected ideas. All the best🖤🎶

[@orangedogmusic]

Great Overview! Completely inspired me to dive in my Subharmonicon all day today. Thank You!

[@nottieru]

Any ideas on how to pan the oscillators left and right? I mean, imagine all this Moog goodness coming at you from both sides, stereo chords and stereo sequences, three oscillators in every ear… It has separate audio outputs from oscillators, but they would bypass VCA, right? So need external dual VCA module, and also a way to bring it all to line level… Am I thinking right?

[@clancybrett8414]

Intro jam gave me chills wow

[@PLA.net-DANTE]

Awesome tutorial , thank you

[@mod.ambience2733]

The first 30 seconds sold me. Great review!

[@benjaminwooningmartin6253]

Congrats on 100k my dude! 🤘

[@thedeepblueskys]

I’m definitely late to the game in getting the Subharmonicon, but that doesn’t matter. I’m excited about the options of what this thing can do. I also recently picked up a Space Brain 🧠 Circuits MidiVolts Desktop 4 voice Midi to CV controller thing. So I’m really looking forward to what that can do with the Subharmonicon, Grandmother, and DFAM. I may have to order more then one. This video helps me plot that out as I wait for it to arrive. Thanks 😊a video on the Space Brain Circuits MidiVolts Desktops would be cool! I’m not sure how many people know about it. There’s a couple videos on KZbin about it with the Grandmother.

[@josehaya6362]

As a DFAM and other moogs owner, i dunno why i am not that impressed. Would kill for that sequencer or cuantizing options on the dfam tho. amazing review as always .

[@mattymel75]

Jose Haya Same here. But looks to me like if you buy this one, you DO have that for the DFAM. Hence mine arrives tomorrow.

[@josehaya6362]

mattymel75 lol true . That’s why I was thinking if it would be best to go for a subharmon or straight to modular.

[@WeirdMedicine]

Hello my friend, I believe you were the first to make note of the subH clock being out of sync with the sequencer by one click. Just got notification that the new firmware fixes this. Nice!

[@okeribok]

Finally someone who can make the subharmonicon sound good!

[@prgrms]

this looks like such an exploratory synth, so great

[@LarsBjerregaard]

Great review Ziv, thanks! Oh boy, this one is a strong GAS trigger, just up my street. Wonderful concept and amazing sound. What a great synth!

[@Bananskuden]

Kudos to Moog for another great job! Behringer is busy cloning while they are busy innovating. Thanks for the video, as always.

[@Bananskuden]

@chief tp Exactly!

[@alemusichead]

Super video!!! Perfect walkthrough and astonishing closure! 🙌

[@jesset3241]

Super cool - thanks for another great debut review!

[@brendonmoeller]

Outro tune is gold… deserves to be on a soundtrack

[@tylerevans1700]

Ive been waiting and hoping for this since the diy edition! Thank you!!

[@turfoid7899]

Pure synthesised Insanity !!! I frikin LOVE my new moog!

[@BrunoWiebelt]

you and hainbach are the guys who satisfy my needs for both brainhalfs

[@jumpingman8160]

Good stuff as always. Never disapoints. Can't wait for your review of the Behringer MonoPoly [hope they sent you one]

[@Sven.Bornemark]

Finally! The only Hitchcock movie that has no conventional music is The Birds from 1963. However, its soundtrack has a lot of manipulated bird noises, created by - OSKAR SALA! It is so nice to hear his name mentioned in this video. You can read more about the making of the soundtrack for The Birds and of Oskar Sala on Wikipedia. Great collaboration with Hainbach, Ziv! :-)

[@BinzDaPoet]

thank you sir ! i watched your videos many times, all of them are very informative and relaxing at the same time . Anw gonna add this one to my collection very soon !

[@Graffick]

That jam at the end is sweet 👌🏽

[@VampireHeart518]

I am addicted to these videoooos of yours. So comprehensive, clear - I love the 'menu' on the left, not for seeing what comes next but for reviewing what has been covered and have a clearer image in my mind, actually remember better :)) New sub here! Great work!! (am a noob to electronic music & devices, I'm a classically trained musician & pianist, looking to delve into electronic music which I love. The hardware part is quite... overwhelming heh - in the sense that there are SO many of them and they do suuuch different things from each other... choosing just one or two seems painful hahah. I'd love having just instruments and hands-on everything, but sadly their virtual counterparts are way more cost-effective for now. Still, I'd love to get started with a physical synth, to connect to the digital piano I'm planning on getting asap. Or maybe I should get an iPad and connect that to the piano, as I could have multiple synths there... ooof)

[@bob-rogers]

Thanks! I can't wait to get one. It's so musical. I'm looking forward to patching it to DFAM.

[@shpongled587]

Your house must be a temple of electronic music instruments. Respect!

[@sneeuwdag9263]

Great demo! Love the subharmonicon

[@jurj4108]

Oh yes! I was waiting so much and being very exited about that thing being finally released commercialy :D Yeeeey! Me want! :)

[@SuperBillNYC]

Wow - very interested in how it overlaps/pairs with mother or dfam. Thx for your great reviews!

[@Itscjoy]

Your channel is amazing, thank you for everything!

[@ReasonedWhistle]

Another beautiful review

[@SuperMegaWoofer3000]

Contender for coolest synth ever. I can't wait to play with one! Thanks for the vid :)

[@telantas]

This is the sound-like-LudoWic synthesizer. 😊

[@ManCalledMif]

£739 in the UK (as of a quick check on 12 May 20) in case any UK peeps were wondering

[@theredderp7579]

im learning how to sing subharmonics because its entirely possible! it sounds like what you hear in this video

[@Leandrob13]

So if you configure the keystep pro to use four cv voices in a single track you could get four paraphonic voices with the patch bay. This thing just blew my mind.

[@bauhnguefyische667]

I have been waiting for this Moog Magic Box! The build one was cool, but damn, they found more stuff to add that makes it super neato. Can't wait to add one to my Mother/Double DFAM Kit. Can't wait. CAN'T WAIT ☺ Anybody have a time machine? I'll buy a bunch in the future and bring em back with me so they are available now.

[@ztkspace5885]

Loopop. I am after some advice. I have the subharmonicon (great unit from moog), I have the sub37 too. And I have the Arturia Drumbrute. They all actually complement each other well. I have been trying to get Oscillator one to be triggered by the drumbrute clock out. This is no problem when place Drumbrute clock out into the 'play' in of the subharmonicon. But, I am trying to isolate oscillator one from Oscillator two, and have the sub 37 trigger just Oscillator two by midi out of the sub 37. The sub 37 is duophonic but, if it can be done, there is the possibility of playing the subharmonicon as a sequencer triggered by the drumbrute, and have pad like paraphony played on oscillator two in conjunction with the sub 37's own oscillators. I have been able to have 9 oscillators on the go using the sub 37 to trigger all oscillators of the subharmonicon together with the sub 37's two oscillators and sub oscillator. I just don't know what to try to be able to split the two oscillators and trigger them independently using outboard kit. thoughts? I understand we are all hoping for a firmware update to the subharmonicon for duophonic upgrade but till then, is there a way it can be done? Stay good.

[@sinepilot]

One patch I'm having a lot of fun with is taking the pitch from my mother 32, splitting it at the mult, then into the Sub's VCO 1 and VCO 2. Now my Mother 32 is sequencing my SubH. The mother 32 sounded fat on it's own, but when you add subharmonics to it, omg

[@drywetcarrot5341]

This is..... I'm speechless.

[@chatolars]

.... that intro was killer

[@FMVideozify]

as always very useful and fun to watch.. thanks!

[@LostForWords]

I always skip to the outro first. Lovely piece!

[@sudabadri7051]

Dayum son you already on top of this love this fucking chan

[@ShadovvV]

Very thorough and concise demo of this unit. Nice job. However, one thing you did not mention is possibly using just the filters with other instruments, such as a guitar with a distortion pedal. I'll bet a thousand other guitarists watched this video and thought the same thing as well. So how would that be done exactly with this unit ? Would a CV controller pedal be needed.. OR would it be possible to just plug in directly ?

[@loopop]

Thanks! and my bad for ignoring guitarists! However, the charm of this instrument is the oscillators and sequencer, and just patching audio into the filter would kind of be a waste of everything else here (or just overspending)

[@ShadovvV]

@@loopop - I think I just realized that, since there doesn't seem to be any type of LFO or envelope filter controls on the Subharmonicon.. which would make it rather pointless for guitar, except for maybe the HP filter? Actually, I'm not even sure if the sweepable VCO and Sub controls would be usable as a Q effect for a guitar. Is that even possible? lol

[@jimivandebeek]

Love it! Your demo’s are great!

[@peterfuzz3887]

cool : you have an exclusive song of Boards of Canada at the end :)

[@shaahinmoghddamsaba1640]

Beautiful as always , thanks .

[@mattiabonafini4026]

Nice video! You might have received this question a million times now, but which plug in are you using for the spectral content analysis? Thank you in advance

[@spicetbedhead]

I love the 3 tier of this,Mother 32 and DFAM

[@Daphoid]

But I just got the two tier rack a few months ago :O

[@spicetbedhead]

@@Daphoid Hey that' still good. I hope you have the wires hehe :)

[@fjfrancois]

Nice I love Moog, thank you Sr for this masterpiece video ❤️❤️❤️

[@georgesleibfried176]

nice infos and music !! thx 👏👏👏

[@Ryanblueshoes]

Not sure if you will see this, but how do you get the oscilloscope to appear above in your video. Is the graphic from a plug in or something? If so, which one and how can I recreate this at home with my analog instruments. Thank you for your videos!

[@loopop]

Hey, the scope isn't really there, it's an overlay I add in post. I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV

[@pbasswil]

"This isn't your mother's pulse width modulation..." Quite right, my mother's was very traditional PWM, it's been in the family for generations.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Got the book you're always talking about :).

[@loopop]

Thanks!

[@petercane6376]

Will the subharmonicon also work with an arturia minilab?

[@mishadoumnov]

Sounds great with additional filters, because the subharmonics don't bunch up in the low register (they get filtered out) - which begs the question - is creating a crowd of subharmonics actually a good idea? Maybe it is..... my jury's out. Definitely like the originality.

[@airobicwave6504]

Could you please make a review of the DFAM? that would be really nice! Love your reviews!

[@loopop]

Thanks - wish granted! I already made at least two videos about it

[@airobicwave6504]

@@loopop well yes, I know. There's probably not one video of yours, I haven't watched ;). but one is more of a comparison and the other is a features added. Well they're both good. Thought of a in depth tutorial, patch ideas and maybe a little jam and integration with modular gear (part II :). thanks

[@mrtessellate]

Nice synth, great review ! If the module has the same depth as the DFAM/Mother 32, just drill 6 holes on the back and fix a passive and cheap CVpal from Mutable (without the faceplate) -> Endless fun .

[@mathisg2016]

Hi, your video is very instructive. I have 2 questions : 1) how did you add the spectral analyser windows onto your video ? they are really helpful to understand how the system behave ( as an exemple : the resonance knob in the end looks like an active band-pass filter (with the Q point (or bandwith) rather sharp) 2) how do you add the chaptering on the video buffer ? it's rather helpful to keep up where we left the video or if we want a specific chapter when we don't 30 minutes straight to watch a video (hence a lot of youtubers do a lot of 5-10 min content because they know that people will be more incline to watch them) the youtube interface is rather clumsy so it's cool to see "new" ways to present a video.

[@loopop]

Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionaly I’ll use scopes by VCV The chapter markers are added by KZbin based on the description

[@elmaildecamiloruiz]

Hey that tiny ericas synth sample drum mini module looks amazing, have a demo on that??

[@h2g2guy]

Huh. 8-ET mode quantizes *post* freq knob? Does that mean you can *only* play the C-major/A-minor scale in 8-ET mode? I would expect that it would be quantizing post-sequencer/pre-freq knob, which would allow you to tune to a root note of a scale. This seems like an even more troublesome situation with the just intonation modes, since you always want to be playing in a just intonation tuning that matches your key, no?