Moog Subsequent 37 vs Moog Grandmother - Battle of the Moogs!

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Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech

Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech

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@sammmfoley
@sammmfoley 6 жыл бұрын
All this did was convince me I need both
@seanspartan2023
@seanspartan2023 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@thisjustin77
@thisjustin77 5 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite comment
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. Yeah.
@Daphoid
@Daphoid 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I've been pondering getting into modular, but eurorack and stuff is crazy expensive. This is a fantastic intro to physical hardware. Want both of those. damn.
@BarryWarne
@BarryWarne 3 жыл бұрын
all of them. The answer is always all of them.
@jonrobertspiano
@jonrobertspiano 5 жыл бұрын
When you call up an initial patch on the Sub37, the filter keyboard tracking is set to 1:1. If you set it to O, it dramatically opens it up, and you will get the high end sizzle that is missing in this video.
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 5 жыл бұрын
Good call Sir, thanks for that Xx
@MatthewMouras
@MatthewMouras 5 жыл бұрын
The way those synths are both hanging over the end of the table is anxiety inducing.
@John-e4p1x
@John-e4p1x Жыл бұрын
There is no table, the synths are resting on their massive BALLS.
@Bansenshukai9
@Bansenshukai9 10 ай бұрын
They have a big, huge solid, sturdy table now that can hold & fit multiple large synths & keyboards etc.
@fatguybiking4126
@fatguybiking4126 6 жыл бұрын
i somehow ended up here after an edible kicked in and im thankful for that. also i think i might have just purchased a synth
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 5 жыл бұрын
Dooooope X
@franknobel4715
@franknobel4715 3 жыл бұрын
You have my support
@blairgowans4625
@blairgowans4625 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha. I was the same. Had some home made oil and watched this and now there's a s37 on the way 😬
@TuMalditaMadre
@TuMalditaMadre 5 жыл бұрын
So I just bought a Grandmother on Thursday. On Tuesday I walk into my Guitar Center just to buy a midi cable to run from my Grandmother to my MS-20 Mini and I see a Moog Sub37 right on the floor. Some guy brought it back because his road gig got cancelled. Now I have to explain to the bank why I'm not paying my mortgage this month lol
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 5 жыл бұрын
Whoop whoop!! X
@bradentroy1
@bradentroy1 5 жыл бұрын
Tu Maldita Madre Classic, I love it 🤣
@Porsche996-t1y
@Porsche996-t1y 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like some solid decision-making there :D
@anterdogan
@anterdogan 5 жыл бұрын
Bro you only live once haha
@tommyg5095
@tommyg5095 5 жыл бұрын
HOMES WITH MORTGAGES ARE OVER RATED...
@MrSlimfinger
@MrSlimfinger 6 жыл бұрын
Always such a pleasure to the ol' eardrums, those bare saw waves emitting from the headphones, piercing through my skull like a pneumatic drill.
@gorillachilla
@gorillachilla 5 жыл бұрын
I have the sub37 , best synth i ever purchased, a beast
@timmbrockmann959
@timmbrockmann959 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you can modulate everything with the LFOs, even the speed of the Arpeggiator/Sequencer, I haven´t seen this anywhere else..
@gpr4eva
@gpr4eva 5 жыл бұрын
Ben's face when Jack hit that low C @1:50 is priceless lol.
@schwarzerrogen930
@schwarzerrogen930 4 жыл бұрын
That is Grade A Stank Face
@Rusty511
@Rusty511 4 жыл бұрын
v __ v
@steveread645
@steveread645 4 жыл бұрын
For me it's the GM. The unit is based on the Voyager OSC's - whereas the S37 is based around the 'newer' voiced OSC's that I can never quite get into. Plus the modules on the GM are pretty much the Sys 15 modules with a keyboard. THAT'S the Moog sound I am after. The mixer alone is bonkers. Surprised they really didn't talk that much about these differences in the video.
@sxipshirey
@sxipshirey 4 жыл бұрын
The GM just sounds richer. I wish I didn't think this because of presets. Sigh.
@JBrm
@JBrm 2 жыл бұрын
Happy patch diagram drawing in 2022
@warbwarb
@warbwarb 5 жыл бұрын
That bit right there at 10 mins 38 seconds is why I've just given in and bought one. Cheers chaps.
@anthonyfranklin7137
@anthonyfranklin7137 5 жыл бұрын
I love the concept of the Grandmother, and want to love it. Price is good. Keys feel great. Its patchable with eurorack gear that I already have..... but that Sub 37 is so refined and moody, it's just what I need. I like that the Sub is smoother and darker. At least they have come down in price.
@ronnieaux5290
@ronnieaux5290 6 жыл бұрын
I finally got to playing a Grandmother, in the worst of conditions (a grimy synth corner in Guitar Center), and I have to say I was expecting to not be impressed, but I was VERY pleased by the Grandmother. I've had substantial time with a Moog Mother-32, SUB-37, and Minimoog, I've been wanting to play the GM. I was sort of hoping to dislike the Grandmother, but wow, the keybed is phenomenal, the pitchbend and modwheel had just the right tension to them, I actually preferred it over the feel of the SUB-37 ones. In fact, there was extra tension to the Grandmother keys, making you have to press just a little harder, and they spring back perfectly - I think it's the best keybed I've ever played. The tone was just buttery smooth - growling in just the right way. Lovely keyboard, I'd recommend to anyone. I am at a loss now as to whether it's better than my SUB-37. I'm even considering replacing the SUB for this... but the SUB has more control over tone. I think you can mimic the Grandmother tone if you set your settings just right (a little overdrive and such)
@excitationofstereocilia2103
@excitationofstereocilia2103 Жыл бұрын
Honestly for a newbie that doesn't understand the patch holes in the granny the sub 37 would be easier to understand since being more 'self -contained' ?? Would this be correct???
@corbinslaymaker3346
@corbinslaymaker3346 Жыл бұрын
​@@excitationofstereocilia2103Yes, the Grandmother has wayyyyy more control once you incorporate your modular setup. That's the advantage. The sub37 has more control if you're only using the devices themselves as they are in this video. But even then, they didn't incorporate internal patches on the Grandmother in this video really at all. If you are into modular (all roads lead to modular) the Grandmother is most everyone's favorite controler. If you just like to play around with the synth itself, go for the sub37
@excitationofstereocilia2103
@excitationofstereocilia2103 Жыл бұрын
@@corbinslaymaker3346 I literally just wanna play noises easiest way possible
@corbinslaymaker3346
@corbinslaymaker3346 Жыл бұрын
@@excitationofstereocilia2103 sub37 is for you than, if these are your only options. I, myself, would go Grandmother because I want to expand on it infinitely with dozens of other modules. Something you can't reeeaally do with the Sub37.
@robertlee1176
@robertlee1176 3 ай бұрын
Gee, I’m glad the first part has context around playing mothers and grandmothers
@ViperKillerWannabe
@ViperKillerWannabe 5 жыл бұрын
The spring reverb on the grandmother is amazing.
@NicholasGreenwood
@NicholasGreenwood 6 жыл бұрын
Gosh, I freaking love both. But I want the Subsequent 37 for that paraphonic mode, and the expanded modulation busses.
@ChrisP3000x
@ChrisP3000x 6 жыл бұрын
The Grandmother sounds great!
@chrislynch9364
@chrislynch9364 5 жыл бұрын
The granny is sublime.
@joechristopher5803
@joechristopher5803 6 жыл бұрын
Both sounds are perfect, the sub 37 has nice darker tone but both are amazing!
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Sub37 is more fluid leady thing the grandmother has a more aggressive thing thanks to that mixer section and the filter distorting both moogy but I like the phatness of the gm, the Moog modular sound is my preferred Moog sound ever.
@metaspherz
@metaspherz 6 жыл бұрын
I want both! Damn GAS!!!
@RickyTinez
@RickyTinez 5 жыл бұрын
So badass!! Thanks for the info and sweet sick basslines braddah
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 5 жыл бұрын
Maaaaaan, thanks goes to you mate for all your videos and for being so kind to me when I was quite clearly fangirling you at Namm!! Hope you're well Sir and have a great Summer my G X
@ShenaniganZone
@ShenaniganZone 5 жыл бұрын
this is by far the best side by side comparison of synths I have ever had the pleasure of watching. tyvm
@Marrcello
@Marrcello 6 жыл бұрын
Love these comparisons! Please do more of these :) keep it up!
@thosesmallyesterdays
@thosesmallyesterdays 6 жыл бұрын
Ooh, you read my mind with this one, I am to decide on which of these two I should be getting, let's watch that vid and find out!
@Firetracks
@Firetracks 3 жыл бұрын
Now that’s how you start a comparison video!🔥💪🏾
@spdycar13
@spdycar13 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t go wrong with either one! I’ve got both and they are a fun pair.
@Mr.Conductor
@Mr.Conductor 5 жыл бұрын
Have a Moog Sub 37 on the way, and couldn't be any more excited than I am now! wait... I lied... I just got even more excited!!!!!!!
@marvinkmooneyoz
@marvinkmooneyoz 5 жыл бұрын
The variable waveform oscillators are pretty cool, but I think I like the raw sound of the GM overall better.
@travisbaiera7961
@travisbaiera7961 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you guys do a follow up episode of matriarch vs subsequent 37. Amazing video guys. Really put the details in. Best informative video ive seen.
@MartinBrossman
@MartinBrossman 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Love to hear more of the Moog Subsequent 37! Thanks!
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you for sitting through this nonsene, well - from me anyways! Appreciate it x
@cho03
@cho03 6 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, the GM is more for people who want to fiddle around, turn knobs and jam rather than play. The built in spring reverb is also a selling point for me, as I would want some reverb effects at least. And the arpeggiator is helpful for riffage and jamming. It's also a way to ease into modular, which is something I'm really keen to get into.
@cho03
@cho03 6 жыл бұрын
For me, as a non player, the grandmother is a perfect first Moog/intro to modular. I would probably get a mother 32 to add on next.
@ericpeters0n
@ericpeters0n 6 жыл бұрын
@@cho03 Seeing many folks pair the GM with a Neutron, which adds some modulation and utilities at an astoundingly low price point.
@cultofours2648
@cultofours2648 6 жыл бұрын
I gig with the Grandmother and love it. It certainly demands that you know your way around patches. People love watching me plugging in things here and there. It makes for a more entertaining show.
@MarcoPolux
@MarcoPolux 3 жыл бұрын
that is very cool 👍 and cooler even because that is "more Analog". The sound on the Subsequent 37 seems more harsh to the ears and agressive.... do you think you can emulate with it the grandMother's sound? (the -I dislike using this word...but it might be the correct- "butter or satin" soo analog and warmness..... of the Osc and Filter....) I ordered the GM, but I am still in time to exchange it for a Subsequent37.. (I am not a performer, I make music in my studio, and I like to create soundscapes and textures for the backround, and intrincated arppeggios and sequences to work over....)
@MrStupidHead
@MrStupidHead 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoPolux you probably already got your synth. The sub37 has a greater range. It also has presets which cant be underestimated. GM though can be infinitely expanded via eurorack. Pricey though. But for what you are doing, these are 2 different roads that will both get you where you want to go.
@MarcoPolux
@MarcoPolux 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrStupidHead Got the GrandMother for months now and I love it... the best Moog sound there is..... I might aim to the sub37 next BlackFriday. . . . for the Presets and ability to save my own presets... The GrandMother is great, I am happy I bought it. I do recomend it and I´ve learned a lot with it, because precisely: you can´t save or recall presets.... so you have to create your sounds each time.
@MrStupidHead
@MrStupidHead 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoPolux I like your self-discipline! Learning how to patch up a subtractive synth may not get you girls, but it makes you a better man. :) btw, I went from a sub37 to the matriarch and now i love them both. but! if i started with the M and had really learned to patch the matriarch - i don't know if I wouldn't feel like something was missing in the sound of the sub37.
@MarcoPolux
@MarcoPolux 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrStupidHead ordering a dfam! couldn´t hold the G.A.S. until next BlackFriday.... 👍
@MrBasic
@MrBasic 6 жыл бұрын
I like the low and smooth, Sub 37
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 10 ай бұрын
LOVE the more raw, vintage sound of the Grandmother / Matriarch !! 😍
@maximovvladimir
@maximovvladimir 6 жыл бұрын
perfect battle! thanks guys!
@rdean150
@rdean150 6 жыл бұрын
Subsequent 37 >> GM, any day of the week. The extra oscillator and paraphonic capabilities alone put it in another tier. But thats just the beginning. It has two envelopes with ADSR + optional Delay & Hold, plus multitrigger and sync options, vs the single basic ADSR on GM. And the difference in the LFO situation is even more drastic. The modulation capabilities on the Sub37 are staggering, and you CAN input CV from modular systems to modulate it (with a specific caveat that the CV must be kept within 0-5 volts). And in terms of modular connectivity, of course don't forget about (a) Subsequent 37 CV which has 6 CV/gate outputs as well as the 4 inputs also found on the standard seen here; and (B) even for the standard model, MIDI and the existence of Eurorack MIDI>CV converters mean that even a standard Subsequent 37 can still integrate well as a Eurorack "brain". Beyond that: more keys, storable patches, and full DAW integration over USB that lets you fully control, play, and record every single parameter on the synth without even touching it physically, via a brilliant VST plugin. Meaning that you can record every knob wiggle & key press and hence replay your performance back identically later. Or better yet, improve it by editing those accidental sour notes you hit in the 3rd measure and dial back the resonance & boost the envelope decay during that filter sweep you played during the bridge - all from the convenience of your DAW's piano roll. But hey, the Grandmother *does* have a spring reverb.
@nathankirklambo1986
@nathankirklambo1986 4 жыл бұрын
That’s your opinion! Never wanted the 37 personally. I ended up with the sub phatty and a grandmother, for nearly the same price as a 37 alone. I really like the tone of the Grandmother more than the 37, and for me, tone is everything. Modulation capabilities don’t matter a whole lot to me when it comes to my moogs. For mods, I’m into the hybrid synths. I have a dreadbox Medusa, and that thing has 5 LFOs and 5 envelopes and 6 oscillators, and it’s the same price as the grandmother. don’t get me wrong, I love every single synth Moog puts out! I would love to have a 37 as well!
@nathankirklambo1986
@nathankirklambo1986 4 жыл бұрын
Ok so I didn’t realize how many functions have a knob or button on the 37. That is pretty sweet! I really like that. The sub phatty does get annoying because of all the hidden parameters.
@BargenMusic
@BargenMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 10 ай бұрын
Matriarch FTW! 👑 ❤️
@synthway
@synthway 6 жыл бұрын
They sound just as dark, but the GrandMother sounds a bit better overall. Very nice video, was expecting for it!
@entmedias4965
@entmedias4965 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the GM is cleaner, clearer; more definition. The Sub 37 sounds more messy by comparison.
@jakestewartmusic
@jakestewartmusic 3 жыл бұрын
IMO the Subsequent behaves like a self-contained modular synth and the Grandmother is more keen to be part of a larger eurorack-based family. Both offer something great and charming, just for two different players/setups/approaches. That being said, Subsequent 37 is my personal desert island synth.
@excitationofstereocilia2103
@excitationofstereocilia2103 Жыл бұрын
The all in one contained sub sounds less confusing for someone who has never used one of those patch ports those are confusing
@jakestewartmusic
@jakestewartmusic Жыл бұрын
@@excitationofstereocilia2103 modular patching can be intimidating at first, but it's actually a great way to learn synthesis. i've used the Grandmother on sessions and owned a Mother 32 for a bit and it was actually really fun to patch both, but i discovered that they're more compelling instruments when paired with other modular gear. not that they aren't great by themselves, but they're begging to be patched into a larger system. my Subsequent 37 continues to be my desert island synth, and a much better choice for my band's live shows
@vonslagle
@vonslagle 6 жыл бұрын
Love this! I have a Little Phatty II and a Grandmother
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 10 ай бұрын
Hiw would you describe/compare their sounds?
@saam6768
@saam6768 6 жыл бұрын
I have both and I have way more fun with the Grandmother. A lot of times I prefer the sound of the subsequent but its so hard to learn. The grandmother is a pleasure to explore and play around with.
@patmash5126
@patmash5126 3 жыл бұрын
That might be the best video I saw in the last 10 years. Keep it going, guys!!
@jbowmanmusic
@jbowmanmusic 6 жыл бұрын
enjoying this - I have the SS37 - the Grandmother may have more sizzle in the top end, but if you change the filter slope to 6dB on the SS37 you do get a bit more sizzle out of it...
@NachtSchreck13
@NachtSchreck13 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the different filter slopes on the 37 open up a lot of sonic possibilities left unexplored in this video. I honestly think this vid is a paid marketing ploy to promote the GM, and convince older Subsequent37 owners to shell out another $800 bucks. Definitely biased to make the GM sound better with that high end sizzle, which the 37 is quite capable of but which is never shown in the video. As far as I can tell, they never took the keytracking off the Sub37 filter and never changed the poles.
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine you found your once-in-a-lifetime patch on the GM and need to buy another one ‘cause you can’t save it. I decided to get the Subseq 37.
@ChurroLightyear
@ChurroLightyear 5 жыл бұрын
Photos
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 5 жыл бұрын
Churro Lightyear :D Or paper and pencil?
@lordshiva83
@lordshiva83 4 жыл бұрын
you got a phone? take a pic
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 4 жыл бұрын
Even if you could 100% reproduce the original patch by photos, it‘s at least time-consuming.
@nr92cp6
@nr92cp6 4 жыл бұрын
That's kinda exactly why I want it though. I find that with VSTs I'm too reliant on presets, and I don't always understand exactly what's going on at a synthesis level. With the Grandmother you don't have a choice. There's a lot of power in a "What You See Is What You Get" synth.
@angieautumn3563
@angieautumn3563 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of the Moog Matriarch and Sub 37?
@JamesCorbettMusic5000
@JamesCorbettMusic5000 2 жыл бұрын
I have! Very different
@BargenMusic
@BargenMusic 4 жыл бұрын
The Grandmother LOOKS like a classic, but the Sub 37 IS the classic here.
@CyanPac
@CyanPac 6 жыл бұрын
Buy. Them. All.
@jameschilds6946
@jameschilds6946 6 жыл бұрын
20:35 "just plug it in and 'Euro-way'!"
@jameschilds6946
@jameschilds6946 6 жыл бұрын
Whoow!
@CameronClarkeOG
@CameronClarkeOG 6 жыл бұрын
the delivery on this was flawless
@valdiskrebs566
@valdiskrebs566 6 жыл бұрын
Both sound great... GM has the old 70s sound, and Sub37 is more "refined" GM + Erebus for me... about the same cost as Sub 37.
@MikkelGrumBovin
@MikkelGrumBovin 6 жыл бұрын
Jack , is a formiddable keyboardplayer, id have him in my band anytime, nice feel, technique, lyrical, and spacey progrocker extraordinaire ,-
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 6 жыл бұрын
Oh maaaan, thanks so much for the kind Comment Mikkel - really appreciate it - all the very best to ya Xxx
@MikkelGrumBovin
@MikkelGrumBovin 6 жыл бұрын
Thanx a bunch, all my best regards to you too. I love the energy you always send out , and the “intro Indian morning Raga” vibe with that dash of the mighty Genesis and some Ozric breakfast, just had me picking up my Chapman Stick, and tweeting a little Levin’esque bird lingo, with some Deep staccato basslines,, - now too the realtalk ... I just had a tired mailman, dropping of a “Packet” for me, here in Copenhagen, all the way from youre beautiful England ! A Boxfull of “Granny on Roids”,- and i gotta say... That machine packs a set of utubular balls of FIRE, and make having sex while skydiving, seem mundane ! ;-)
@swordghoti
@swordghoti 6 жыл бұрын
That outro jam was banging.
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 6 жыл бұрын
They are both Moog worthy! Got the Subsequent but would not mind owning a granny as well.
@VoiceofFox
@VoiceofFox 2 ай бұрын
I used to own a Sub 37. It’s great and the presets are definitely handy for a gigging musician (which I am not). But the problem, for me at least, is it’s too tempting to just cycle through the presets rather than twiddling the knobs and experimenting, which is what owning an analog synth is all about. I sold it and got a Voyager, which is on a whole other level. But then I also bought the Grandmother when it came out. There’s something so fun and utilitarian about it that just begs you to play with it, that’s even before you get to all the patching options. The built-in reverb is also a fab touch. It’s a brilliant synth to learn synthesis on too and the colour coding makes it user-friendly and looks cool. Hard not to recommend the Grandmother unless you absolutely need the other features of the Sub 37.
@yannborie2978
@yannborie2978 4 жыл бұрын
What are the acoustic bass traps panels you use in the room’s corners? They look insane!
@funkuncle999
@funkuncle999 Жыл бұрын
Really useful video, thanks gents.
@MatthewMouras
@MatthewMouras 5 жыл бұрын
I always liked my Sub37, but I never fell for it like I did for the Grandmother. That thing just drips character. Love love love it.
@soundmapper
@soundmapper 3 жыл бұрын
After a year of owning a grandmother, the $625 used price was still a steal. 😀
@rabidwombat1545
@rabidwombat1545 6 жыл бұрын
You guys seem like you'd be fun to hang out with.
@duckunderground183
@duckunderground183 6 жыл бұрын
To play the sequencer on the grandmother, you press a note on the keyboard
@synthplayer1563
@synthplayer1563 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, what a difference if one can play. Otherwise, if patching doesn't matter, take the Sub37. For spring reverb take a pedal.
@Alan_Chapman
@Alan_Chapman 6 жыл бұрын
I bought my Subsequent 37 before the GM was announced. If I could do it over again, I’d still get the Subsequent 37.
@christophervan9634
@christophervan9634 6 жыл бұрын
Me too, save-able patches is a big thing if you ever want to take the thing on stage. No one likes waiting for someone to find the right sound
@ZakiWasik
@ZakiWasik 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Sub 37 and I want the GM bad... but I'm going to keep the Sub 37 for the patches.
@joshtaymcleod
@joshtaymcleod 6 жыл бұрын
Have them both. The Gramma ooozes inspiration. Theyre both rad synths for sure. But I can say with confidence that I can't live without the GM now that I have one. It's a super beast in a small package. Worth every penny.
@lukeignjatovic161
@lukeignjatovic161 6 жыл бұрын
@@joshtaymcleod You have made me so unbelievably excited to get mine tomorrow!!!
@donaldpriola1807
@donaldpriola1807 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like having a couple friends over. Love the informal, fun aspects to your presentations.
@randommuiscchannel1049
@randommuiscchannel1049 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm you get what you pay for... I have a sub37 and like its flexibility... I like the way the grandmother bridges to modular...
@MrBothandNether
@MrBothandNether 6 жыл бұрын
Subsequent 37 has hardware profile in Omnisphere 2.5 So that's what we got. Way more than just simple keymapping, we have the poorman's Moog One now, polyphony and all.
@roboslobonator
@roboslobonator 5 жыл бұрын
Can you explain? Are you saying there is an update with the subsequent 37 that allows polyphony?
@Massproduce201
@Massproduce201 5 жыл бұрын
Omnispere is a plug in vst. But how’s the clicking and popping?
@impurfekt
@impurfekt 6 жыл бұрын
That is one fine Grandmother.
@amdclx4635
@amdclx4635 5 жыл бұрын
good times with these two
@sethsmith6910
@sethsmith6910 6 жыл бұрын
sub37 has 3 programmable cv ins and a programmable gate w an added step advance feature. you could midi sync but why not use all those cv outs on the gm? these things play excellent together.
@austinharris538
@austinharris538 4 жыл бұрын
14:06 T H E L I C C
@Thebirdfromreo
@Thebirdfromreo 3 жыл бұрын
Sub 37 or little phatty. Which one should I get?
@TheNecroserpent
@TheNecroserpent 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely sub my sub37 and the reason why you want the sub is for how warm the filter sounds.
@russcontact
@russcontact 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Personally I'd take the 37 in a heartbeat over the GM but that's just me, they're both great. Btw, you guys do know that it's a SubSEQUENT 37, and not a Sub37, right? Think you're just saying sub for short hand? The 'quent replaced the sub but it's not the same sound and has different features.
@station2station544
@station2station544 5 жыл бұрын
20:15 Alas yes, Subsequent 37 CV.
@VAL-mo7bc
@VAL-mo7bc 5 жыл бұрын
You are freaking hilarious, ‘dB is cool´ just got me appreciate the good vibes keep it up lads 🤙🏼
@VinceVega303
@VinceVega303 6 жыл бұрын
Lol! I enjoyed this. I want them both 😜
@nickdestruct
@nickdestruct 2 жыл бұрын
Sub37 is noticeably bassier and meaner. Gm is like an oberheimy sound, a little brighter but more old school sounding too. Pretty sure Trent Reznor used the sub37 or minimoog, and previously a voyager. If I ever got one I’d get the sub37. Would be nicely paired with a take5.
@squillium7149
@squillium7149 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm about two years late, but did anyone notice the sub 37 is in the right channel, and the grandmother is in the left channel. Not fully, but slightly more gain on each side?
@ScienceRockifyMe
@ScienceRockifyMe 6 жыл бұрын
One out of fourteen - woohooo! Mom do you love me now!!
@keithtrigwell661
@keithtrigwell661 5 жыл бұрын
Both great machines but I think the GM had a 5th in there. Sub / Subsequent is WAY better sounding that it sounded in the first half
@t3l3phasicworksh0p
@t3l3phasicworksh0p 6 жыл бұрын
Holy Shite! It's the Nick'n'Gaz synthgasm tribute band....keep it up Chaps!
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 6 жыл бұрын
Nick and Gaz are our Hero's!!! Thanks so muc for the words of encouragment, appreciate it bud. All the bestest X
@jaewanpark6125
@jaewanpark6125 5 жыл бұрын
GM is way more vintage birght sounding. Sub 37 is lil modern and darker.
@lovehalfblack9420
@lovehalfblack9420 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best
@analogdragon4709
@analogdragon4709 5 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic jam in the beginning
@kingtrance6826
@kingtrance6826 5 жыл бұрын
Smashing!! 👍
@gianpierodefilippohouseabr8836
@gianpierodefilippohouseabr8836 6 жыл бұрын
I think that at 10:00 you got the patching wrong: in MODULATION , you patched Wave OUT with Noise IN. In your talking you meant Wave OUT patched to OSC1 IN (or OSC2 IN). Great video by the way, guys.
@pcprobot
@pcprobot 5 жыл бұрын
I like this. Jams are good. Moog Pajamas?
@geecen
@geecen 6 жыл бұрын
Nice harmonium vibe at the beginning there
@jackduxburymusic
@jackduxburymusic 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, I love me some Harmonium so appreciate the comment bud X
@greeksdorok
@greeksdorok 5 жыл бұрын
Are you guys referencing the french band?
@Alan_Chapman
@Alan_Chapman 6 жыл бұрын
Took you a few moments to find it on that outro lol but it did settle into a nice groove
@mrbreaker101
@mrbreaker101 6 жыл бұрын
There's something on Jack's face?
@cp99music
@cp99music 6 жыл бұрын
4:09 the licc
@inperfectsequence7840
@inperfectsequence7840 Жыл бұрын
Ok, although I know the fun here is in comparing 2 moogs with similar things, without a doubt my peacock synth can be played with a guitar and things that can be jammed for a live drone sound, can be played improvising things while another sound comes in from another synth in the filter... Yes, I am referring to My dear Korg MS-20 my king to do great things in a compact or minimalist equipment like an MS-20 and some guitar with some microkorg. None more than I play so much and the MS20 is also an ideal equipment to enter the eurorack world although its filter is a sinusoidal that can be played chromatically for sub-bass or moog bass, these things are also in others, but the MS20 does it It does so much good, it's hard not to be without that thick bass thing using 2 resonant filters.
@V4D2
@V4D2 5 жыл бұрын
cool review guys, thank you for this. i actually learned a thing or two, and yes!..yes.. a musical instrument video review featuring actual music performance ! cheers from Portugal PS: currently divided between the sub 37, and the sub-phatty. anyone got any input on that? ( for a musician getting into synthesis, from a more jazzy/organic multi-instrumentalist background. I’m looking for a synth that will give me this same great timbre, in a very similar lead approach as featured in the little jams on this video.)
@FlyingPhilUK
@FlyingPhilUK 6 жыл бұрын
Cinema Show! - on a Moog!
@zeusdeux
@zeusdeux 3 жыл бұрын
Back here for 1:53
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 6 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhh!! Edit out getting the sequencer wrong lol!!! I'll answer that one. The sequencer on the Sub37 and the Grandmother are very similar. They're both 64 steps. If you can use the Sub37 one you will quickly pick up how to use the Grandmother one without having to use a manual or watch a tutorial. They work the same way. I've only demo'd a Moog Grandmother once at the store and once I got to the arpeggiator and the sequencer it was practically the same as using the Sub37. I was kind of chuffed about that. Great video as usual guys. I'm not so up on the modular side of things so this was very educational for me with the comparisons. Thanks
@ascetik
@ascetik 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Kage sequencer on the grandmother is actually 256 steps!
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 6 жыл бұрын
Caramello Koala it beats the Sub37 then. I only tried it once at the store and I only took it to 64 as I didn't realize it could go further. Thanks for letting me know. I'll try that out next time I go to the store
@cultofours2648
@cultofours2648 6 жыл бұрын
grandmother all the way!
@joelizquierdo8624
@joelizquierdo8624 4 жыл бұрын
The Grandma has more character goodness. I blend in the third Oscillator and use it as a gigantic bass monster.
@sndrcve
@sndrcve 5 жыл бұрын
I like the phasing on the GM
@ManCalledMif
@ManCalledMif 4 жыл бұрын
24:25 that’s where I am with the record mode 😂
@crapopotateptl
@crapopotateptl 2 жыл бұрын
Dude... it really sounds like you are playing a sitar, or anyways playing on the indian scale, but on a synth. Quite the jam. I like your musicality :)
@alexandreh7823
@alexandreh7823 4 жыл бұрын
So the sub 37 can't make the drone/reverb style of the grandmother?
@rocks1423
@rocks1423 2 жыл бұрын
Just buy a good reverb pedal and it’s the same. (Even better sometimes because of the extra features of the sub 37.)
@testohtoby
@testohtoby 5 жыл бұрын
I've played the sub37 but I don't like its keybed, too wobbly
@BuscratesOsc1
@BuscratesOsc1 5 жыл бұрын
Testoh Toby I felt the same about the Little Phatty. GM keyboard is far better for sure.
@SpacehotelMusic
@SpacehotelMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I had a sub 37 and now have a subsequent 37 (which this video is about). Moog upgraded the keybed in the subsequent 37. Much better than the original sub37 (not uneven and the black keys feel better).
@rideroardvolid1716
@rideroardvolid1716 3 жыл бұрын
Shits so fkin real raw..
@noisynois1670
@noisynois1670 5 жыл бұрын
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