MoP Warlock Class Guide - FATBOSS

[@JamesHall937]

I came back to WoW after a long break. This video helped me get back up to speed on my favorite class, thanks !

[@darkwhyt]

Hey fellas! Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video. I have not played my Warlock sinse last October because of pure boredom from WOW. My brother surprised me with the expansion yesterday and sent me a scroll of ress haha so I guess I'm playing again. This all made perfect sense to me, so now I can pop right in and start melting faces in demo. DOUBLE FELGAURD WTF!?!?! So fun and OP! 8 seconds of total dmg immunity is going to so much fun! I plan to troll a lot with that one!

[@QueenofTaterTots]

everyone bitching at the pronunciation, keep in mind, these wonderful chaps are from the UK, everyone pronounce things differently, calm down, accents also change pronunciations too

[@mythical42]

Thank You I was boosting a warlock and this guide has helped me with the basics. I know everything that u need to start a warlock now. Thank You

[@Hilltopperpete]

One thing missed with the Supremacy glyph is the really cool change to your pets' skills. For example, the Fel Imp gives you a Mass Dispel (really useful since dispels now have a long cooldown- I've been using him on heroic spine to get rid of all death debuffs to help the healers get them on the tanks). You get this great skill called "Command Demon" as well, which allows you to cast your pet's special ability yourself. You get Seduction, Pursuit, Last Stand, Sear Magic, and Spell Lock.

[@robpndr]

Finally a Warlock that knows Demonology priorities

[@oriamch]

Great video...I just started playing my lock again after leaving him on the back burner for a few years.. thank you for this guide it helps a lot

[@spoonmason]

Love this style of video!! Please continue with this format?!?! I know it's not always that easy to lay out the class basics all in one video but this did a GREAT JOB! "I give it a 10, a fucking 10!!"

[@roflthopter]

Fel Flame does not REFRESH immolate, it increases the duration. Fel Flame is essentially only used while moving. Say, immolate has a 1.2sec cast time. Casting fel flame essentially has a 1 second cast time, because of the GCD. Casting immolate gives about the same increased duration as 2 fel flames ( i think it lasts about 13 seconds, depending slightly on haste) meaning casting immo over using FF saves more GCDs for more incinerates. Ofc, if you're moving, use FF if Conflag is on CD.

[@Kyderra]

- A extra talent buff they din't mention: Soul link + Grimoire of sacrifice = 20% health increase - Glyps: For Demo you want to have Wild Imps as it generates a massive amount of demon fury as well as give a DPS increase and they are pretty much always up if not killed. - Destruction: casting shadow burn on AOE that kills targets (say a group of 4) will give a great amount of fire burning embers, this might not seem like much, but it basically means you can spam 100k shadow burns on them.

[@3cantina]

Rain of Firing a immolated target also generates burning embers - Destro is incredible for AoE. Rain of Fire with Mannoroths is as Destro is awesome PvP wise - (every 3 RoF hits you get stunned for a second) there essentially no chance of escaping it without getting stunned. Also, Grimoire of sacrifice gives you a demon ability depending on the pet you sacrifice.

[@keeganmeijer007]

Please guys, make more class videos! They help me alot and they're quite enjoyable!

[@Nebelelb]

Things i found out and whant to share with you: - If you take Soullink as Talent and Sac youre Pet you gain an additional 20% heal. - Grimore of Sacrifice is best for Affliction and Destruction, Sac the Pet you whant or take it by the skill you need.

[@Zacknafin]

Not sure why people keep saying the self heal t1 talents are mostly pvp... Looking at the beta testing the self healing was very useful for helping healers save mana for heavy dmg phases. I think its going to test the players ability to know there class and pull every trick out of there hat to keep alive and help healers with there changed mana pool. Cant wait for the rest of the videos!

[@Zhanrock]

What gets me is that he said he did rbg's as well, and particularly referenced Arathi Basin, Most people didn't know that warlocks had a knockoff, and a stealthed one at that. Sending a warlock to LM with a succy could mess up an entire group by baiting them to a ledge... especially when you can port back up if you get knocked off as well...

[@Haplo17]

True, some of the lock stuff is pretty good right now. I'm a bit annoyed about a few things really, but overall I am having quite a bit of fun with my lock. It's easier to focus on the negative stuff, because I don't really see how it got through testing when it's just bad (like the new Soul Link), but it is a bit unfair to not mention the positive changes..I love harvest life for mad aoe fests, burning rush is seeing a lot of use from me, finally have new demons to play with.

[@Haplo17]

Yeah, there was a few things said in that video that aren't entirely correct. But one thing I agree with was that the new soul link basically serves no purpose...a core part of being a warlock for years, and blizzard made it completely suck, good job guys!

[@MrRocklizard]

Thank you so much FatbossTV! for posting this video!!!!!

[@Aesirfrost666]

Thumbs up, cant wait to see the other class guides! :)

[@TotalSnivy]

You're like when Yogscast actually did WoW content, but 10 times better. Awesome stuff,

[@adriaanbasson9748]

great guide!!! Thanks allot!

[@TheV12ferrari]

1. Soul Burn : Soul Swap on 1 target 2. Soul Burn : Seed of Corruption on that target 3. keep spamming Seed of corruption and keep your dots up on that target = tons of AoE

[@Wifenis]

That Howl of Terror/Mortal Coil/Shadowfury are the same as they were pre-5.0, that the Shivarra's knockback is new, how DoT refreshing works at 90, how the new Soul Link works, etc.

[@roflthopter]

Well, it will refresh it if you use it when less than 6 seconds have passed. With your rotation, you use it ~ every 5ish seconds - 1 for conflag, say, 1.2x3 for incins, and then an FF. At that rate, yes it would refresh it, keeping that as a steady rotation, since it wont add duration to the immolate. It will not refresh immo to max duration if you use it when immo has less than 3 seconds left, for example. So, i guess it refreshes it in a way, but you have to abuse it for that to work well.

[@Wobban9]

great work Alex! I don't even play warlock but find this very inetersting

[@mbucari1]

They fixed the CD bug. Soulburn + Soul Swap no longer causes a CD. However, the CD caused by normal Soul Swap will prevent you from Soulburn + Soulswap. That is working as intended according to blue.

[@smartkidbk5]

For all the people saying that Matt doesnt know what hes talking about, well he does...he just isnt good at explaining it. I understood it as Ive already learned the rotations, but it was a little fast and not in-depth enough imo. I think it would be great for you guys (Alex & Loz) to show the rotations & explain them a bit more for future vids, not just summarize them.

[@Hilltopperpete]

With the Sacrifice Grimoire, you actually get to personally use that last set of skills, even without the pet!

[@Nagassh]

My one criticism would be the talents seem to be being brushed off pretty shallowly, I know you're top end raiders - so surely you can see that the first warlock tier is very fight dependent - harvest life, while excellent on an AOE fight, is weaker than dark regen on a fight where you need a big heal every now and then and weaker than soul leech when constant, low but passive healing is useful. I find it hard to believe you don't see this - but I'm sure some people don't and this is a guide.

[@Beresface]

He says "Harvest life is definitely the choice for me in PvE. Nothing even comes close to harvest life" I imagine the self heal from soul leech will be MUCH more useful than a healing AoE in 9/10 raid situations. It might be useful for grinding and those 1/10 raid situations.

[@JackIVC]

You did a very useful guide. But what about Glyph of Everlasting Affiction? I saw it as 3rd Matt's glyph. It's so disputable. Would 20% less dot damage be compensated by saving some gcd?

[@Nagassh]

"With most dots you would not clip it, and let it run off before re-applying" - wasn't that fixed ages ago so clipping a dot during its last tick would "add on" another tick to the reapplied one? As far as I was aware it was agreed that dots weren't supposed to be allowed to drop off anymore unless the previously applied one was done with major buffs, instead being refreshed just before the end to maximise uptime.

[@roflthopter]

I'm fairly sure that Destro still has the best burst of the 3 specs. I know i'm looking at this from a Dragon Soul prespective, but I'm sure theres similar fights on the beta where burst damage is helpful. First of all, for Desto, Chaos BOlt is not only hard-hitting, but its damage is increased by your crit chance. Pooling chaos bolts and chaining 4 (with glyph of burning embers) back to back with Dark Soul up gives HUGE dps; for example, the tendons on spine or on Hagaras "stunned" phase.

[@HugoPCarvalho]

Miss you, Mallefic grasp

[@MaX14995]

i miss my lock, and mop. ;(

[@wawatooki]

same :(

[@stampedo400]

WARLOCKS READ! they forgot to add the gilmore of sacrifice gives u a demon ability depending on the pet u sacrifice! (your command demon spell changes to that ability!!) imp - singe magic voidwalk - 20% last stand felhunter - spelllock(best one) succubus - suduce felguard - charge REMEMBER! you get these abilitys so when you sac your demon you cast them (suduce is a channel ability, and singe magic cannot be casted if your polymorphed!) ALSO "command demon" BECOMES the ability!

[@robpndr]

sometimes when you have glyph of imp swarm your wild imp can proc lots of molten core procs. However this glyph can be a dps loss in a long fight. The main utility of this glyph is to make wilp imps a manageable dps burst.

[@jimmygott]

This is awesome you guys should do every class :D.

[@MrTacoReaper]

Really liking these guides :) You know you want to do warriors next :)

[@Robxkill]

Pick a mob, keep up your dots, and spam seed. For large aoe like orbs on elegon fight I use mannorath, and focus dps elegon while seed spamming him. I can nearly solo all the orbs myself doing that.

[@Raythen_Dullahmortis]

For the record, if there's a death knight in the group they have a passive that overwrites curse of elements.

[@zloyupier]

This is very interesting, well done, thank you. The only thing I don't like are the skype sounds, you should've muted them during this interview...

[@sushanalone]

what he forgot to mention about soul link is your minion 's health is reduced by 50% but both master and minion share the health pool as well as damage and healing.

[@TRVVPER]

SKYPE sounds

[@Makalheb]

i dont know when it was recorded but when 5.0.4 came out i saw on MMO Champion that grimoire of sacrifice was slightly better then the grimoire of supremacy for destruction

[@Beholder505]

He didn't underrate it, he told it for exactly what it was. It's decent. He didn't say it sucked.

[@TheWaterbender90]

all these talents are just very common sense, because the way they are written are detailed enough to understand and know which applies to pve and pvp. So it isn't that difficult to know what you want for you class.

[@nismogrendel]

Great video, thanks for putting it together.

[@PLAuviance]

Are you sure that you will have all class guides up before MoP?

[@manuas98]

you definitely should do more class guides!

[@Awarenessization]

Nice guide! When is the rogue guide comming? If any

[@sylar866]

Hey Fatboss! Thanks for a great work giving us this guide, also thanks Matt for covering a warlock tactics, but I also have a one more question. Im starting to playing an affliction right about now and having big troubles when its come to aoe dmg. How u manage that? Whats difference between dpsing a 2 targets and whats with 4-5 targets or even more. I will be greatfull for any info you could give ;) Thanks again.

[@jancomoolman7432]

Just a few things I would like to say. Glyph of soul swap is viable on all situations. THe fact that sb-ss cause a cooldown on soulswap was only a bug but this seemed to be fixed now on live. And in affliction you seemed to hard cast UA and Corr everytime and im pretty sure using felflame to increase the duration is pretty viable especially with GoSac. And glyph of everlasting affliction is probably the worst glyph for a warlock. Maybe viable in pvp but with the new fel flame it sucks over all

[@Boomken76]

ikr, even as demo she was useful for stopping the splits on the fire elemental in halls of Origination.

[@Walterion]

I feel like alot of things were left out or seem to be misinformed in the first place. Fatboss, can we suggest a do over with more infromation provided by the viewers? Because some stuff needs to be explained as well.

[@locustofchiron]

Ugh, I can't agree more on the level 90 talents. I'm utterly unexcited with them, but on the bright side: Pandemic! at least we have that to look forward to. I kinda wish we still had Illidins Guile for the Spell Cleave option. Kinda disappointing to hear that Destro is a tad behind. I don't suppose you heard anything about Destro's secondary stat priorities? I've been going hit to cap > Crit > Mastery > Haste, and it's been doing well for me but if possible I'd like to get word from on high.

[@SuperTchoks]

Also.. You can actually cast Soul Fire in Demon Form instead of Touch of Chaos. In fact, you MUST cast Soul Fire in Meta. Chaos wave > Soul fire > Touch of chaos

[@Ruh_ken]

you should make it clearer that unbound will removes ALL magic effects, making it also usefull for exampel Spine or Alysrazar. I don't think that burning rush will be an dps increase, because it costs a global and the Fel Flame that you could spent with that global refreshes all your dots (even for more than the original duration in mop) and does a good amount of damage. Sry for my bad English, its not my native language.

[@darklordneo]

conflag on cd to decrease mana cost of inc spam > embers and all based procs for that

[@randall43]

my main is a lock and i suck at wow so this was very helpful....thank you

[@ProgamerEU]

If i am in a 5m instance and there are always 4-5 mob packs around the instance, do you think destro with mannoroths fury is the best specc becauce of splitting every dmg spell? (sry my englishy:)

[@RollinShot]

Are you going to continue this or what? Would like to see a monk and DK video done! Thanks

[@toddh.chandlerjr.4567]

Commenting others: How is the Lvl 90 talents bad for warlocks. Cunning: if u use the move u get to cast while moving for 6 sec. no change in cast time or anything. But while ur not using the Cunning move u can cast while moving but u cast slower. I still think its an awesome Talent. It might not be a attacking spell like others have but its helps alot.

[@roflthopter]

He also neglected to mention how (past level 87, i think) Chaos bolt will benefit from the buff from Conflag, or how Conflag has charges. It is less effective for overall dps for Chaos Bolt to be sped up than it is for 3 incinerates to be sped up. Another thing he forgot is Pandemic; if at level 90 we're under the effects of say, Heroism, it is effective to refresh dots, even with say, 10 seconds left since Pandemic increases the duration gained by recasting to make refreshing early viable.

[@glove0000101666]

Man, negative over 1 bad change. This is the most fun I've had on my warlock in years. Not to mention they can easily change the spell if its not being used at all. Which it wont because its worthless right now.

[@Dreamor25]

good job guyzz, i like these type of class guides :]

[@Boomken76]

far as the the reflect damage i think alot of testing needs to be done. is it like a war spell reflect where aoe's dont bounce, and what if u have the sac sheild or bargin up. dose it still see the damage and reflect correctly or dose nothing go back, ex: soaking heroic morchoc would the stomp damage get reflected, or say heroic ultrax's, ive been asked to soak that np with dark bargin but say i had arch veng would that damage get bounced. blizz has a habbit of leaveing things out in tool tips

[@Boomken76]

ya givein the right set up t1 can be powerfull for pve, harvest is a grate talent for demo seeing as it has 0 aoe like rain of fire for the other 2 specs, sure there immo aura but that takes more fury then the out put damage returns, only time its better is when the adds come under blue ooz and there no mana, but thats seems to be blizz's new thing every thing has become situational. feeling like the stance dance days of wars in wrath but for every one now.

[@precipitate1978]

Can tell he does not use destruction at all. Totally missed rain of fire for stacking embers, with 2 or more targets. Havoc on one target and able to drop 3 shadowburns, (below 20%). So that would be 6 x shadowburns. Always stack embers and pop cd/trinks/pot and then cast 4 chaos bolts, with havoc on a target, if more then one target is out. BUT like you said, depends on fights. Afflic still single target king if your not moving.

[@Lockxcision]

this is brilliant, this warlock have me alot of info.. thanx fatboss i owe u one. :)

[@Macthillien]

Have been looking forward to this one, seems hard to learn a new way to play lock xD

[@hyunjunglee1190]

I miss playing my warlock now. I quit playing after cataclysm and now it seems like warlocks got some really nice buffs. How are they holding up on PVE and PVP during this expansion?

[@Nagassh]

Yup, it's the same as the ret paladin glyph that makes their flat holy dmg increase buff last longer, but become weaker. It's for bad players to have an easier time managing their dot / buff uptime, but a loss of dps for anyone capable of doing it properly.

[@TheRealTwiz2]

This is kida random for this video but when do you or do plan on uploading the Feng the Accursed normal guide, I could not find it in your videos.

[@Boomken76]

very true Nagassh, say like on heroic spine you wouldn't wana harves every thing. could pull a new amalg or blow up too many bloods at one time. i run dark regen for that.

[@Theninja114]

This cooldown on using the soulburn with the glyph, was removed, the glyph no longer has any e effect on this

[@dreadlockks1512]

just A little bit of info, you didnt even talk about havoc, one of destruction's most useful skills, as it doubles your chaos bolt onto another target.

[@ArlanTLDR]

Also, if you pick Soul Link at 45, Sacrifice Grimoire increases your health by 20%

[@toddh.chandlerjr.4567]

U didn't use Fel Flame on Destruction?? It refreshes Immulate and it gives ur Burning Ember. I do Immulate, Conflig, IncenX3, Fel Flame, Conflig, Incenx3, Fel Flame. and Chaos Bolt whenever u can use it. It workes for me and I do awesome!

[@adanos4]

What you mean useless, minor glyph are freaking awesome, Verdant spheres is absolute must if you want to feel like a freaking warlock or it reminds of kinda being as sun king, kael'thas sunstrider.

[@MrJustinArt]

Very nice guide! :D Love warlock!

[@Ultraflowz]

Suggest u make a video about how to reforge a warlock. most sites just say mastery>haste>hit(15%)>crit, sooo how much hit and haste do I want?

[@linkinlol20]

Have question, is soul swap can share all my dots to all enemy's or just 2 targets only ?

[@benjamin9102]

This video made me resubb and restart my lock lvling.

[@zoogie1997]

is the water walking effect from the felstead glyph disabled by damage taken?

[@AstroRunner25]

fatboss do you guys still raid? or just do the guides?

[@preeble4195]

Thank you so much for this video! it really helped me with my dps!!! :D

[@damfisk]

Wont you use soul-shard soul sward in the last 20% making the glyph really bad?

[@GodxSkillz94]

I have a problem with losing mana fast on my affliction warlock while constantly casting my spells, anything I should do to avoid this?

[@Shyrshadi]

don't you use Fel Flame as affliction? I freaking love that ability since i can use it when i'm moving to keep damage up and i never reapply corruption or UA.

[@diegokoolaid69]

Take note for any spec, you want to have curse of elements up...

[@hunterpurnell1010]

Don't forget about the Sould Burn: Curse of Elements!

[@tonymonge2224]

I play Demonology warlock and I changed the talants to the ones you advised, and the spell rotation you advised, and I found the dps I was hitting on target dummies was barely making 40K? That does not seem right my gear level is 488. Can you show a recount video with the dps your putting out with a demo lock

[@jodhan79]

i would like to know why do u prefer watcher over fel imp as destro ?

[@Sylphinator]

Love you guys =) you are great for info! ty for all your efforts yall rock

[@Wifenis]

I was thinking the same thing. As soon as he mentioned the Shivarra's knock back as being new, I was like...when did they take out Whiplash?

[@Scyths1]

You seem to be forgetting that this was all during Beta, now, nearly all of these spells had a number change or other changes.

[@dysarteagles]

COME ON MONK GUIDE!!! I want to learn how to maximize my already boss monk.

[@suigam]

You think that's bad, listen to how various people say Illidan. At the end of the day, you still understand what they meant.

[@MoiVioM]

lól for pve from 1st tier its all about dark regeneration vs soul leech, dr for fight with damage spikes happening from time to time and soul leech for sustain heal, you wont be using harvest as for aoe damage basic spec rotation is better anyways soul link with GoSac provides +20% hp so its not useless for raiding mortal coil is the best just because of its heal, tho if there are adds that can be ccd then ofc other options come into play also burning rush is clear winner in lvl 60 tier