Mopar electronic ignition upgrade to GM HEI module. Cheap Dodge high energy ignition conversion!

[@mikeobrien3744]

Form a long term Mopar Guy....BRILLIANT!!

[@MortskeRepair]

Thanks Mike!

[@firebreathinggarage2117]

I'm a Mopar and I ain't ragging you. Actually I knew about this before I watched your video. I own Chevy's, Triumphs, Dodges, Plymouths, so I'm ambidextrous, I just love old rides. Great video.

[@MortskeRepair]

I drive all the brands, so I have no room to talk. I like ribbing on the Mopar guys tho! Thanks for watching!

[@rickduffey9295]

I’m glad I ran across this video because my 1985 dodge d150 with a slant six has the same problem. I didn’t know what was going on with it. I was going to hook up a jumper wire to the coil but I will try this instead. There’s a lot I like about your channel, lots of good info.Thank you.

[@MortskeRepair]

Glad it helped! Probably a bad ballast resistor like mine had but I'm stubborn!

[@chrisbyers386]

Been a dodge truck owner got tired of part breaking and carrying spares I never heard of it and I loved my old dodge trucks

[@MortskeRepair]

I guess that's half the fun of driving old stuff is maintaining it! Thanks for watching!

[@beardedscrapper538]

I appreciate the fact that they are off thw shelf parts like u said. And the full explanations. Great video.

[@MortskeRepair]

Glad you like them!

[@Guns_N_Gears]

I did this with a Tractor, infact, I took a video of it, still works a treat. Anywho, thought I'd add a comment worth mentioning here. The important tip to remember when using the GM module is to use a late 70's part, pre computer days. Think 76 Montecarlo Also, standard female spade connectors will fit, just need to crimp the smaller 1ns a lil

[@chevahaulic]

I can't believe I've just learned this yesterday. I go to learn a bit more this morning about this , and old Mortske has a video of this cool trick !!

[@MortskeRepair]

Glad to help!

[@Robmc7759]

6:45 mark-that could be a defining screenshot. Your hand is out, you’re smiling-moon is hanging just right in the sky. Good stuff.

[@MortskeRepair]

That is a great flippin shot!!

[@jacobburroughs6418]

My friend had a 74 d100 straight 6 in high school and we beat the hell out of it good memories

[@MortskeRepair]

I'm definitely not easy on this one! And it still won't die. Thanks for watching!

[@jeffhutchins7048]

Did that to my '78 SWB 3/4 Ton swapped hopped up small block mud truck a few years ago. I'll NEVER build another gas engine MOPAR without this mod......EVER!!

[@MortskeRepair]

Nice

[@lesliemclean4381]

Simplicity is key.It shows.

[@wadehearn6230]

I converted my old 74 Dodge (D-200 318) that I built a wrecker on about five years or so ago. Since I don't drive the truck regular I tend to let things go and fix when I must. For a year or so it seems after it gets warmed up that it has to wind up and when the key is released it will start. I had a lot of Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler vehicles through the years and this truck starts real similar to one the resistor has failed on. I have flipped the plug over on these and sometimes get lucky when starting by winding it up and when releasing the key they would start. When I converted mine I added a relay to switch the power to the ignition since these vehicles can have some opportunities around getting low voltage to things that causes things to fry. My conversion has worked well for a few years, but seems something has changed. I rewired it back when I converted the ignition. Bypassed the amp gauge (it was burnt up) wired through the firewall plug as it was fried on the ignition wiring go thru. Had to change the ignition switch and headlight switch due to melted plugs or shorted wires. Added relays on the lights to take the load off the light switch too. Any suggestions?

[@MortskeRepair]

Sounds like a bad ballast resistor

[@wadehearn6230]

@@MortskeRepair I took the resistor off when I replaced the ECM (as you did).

[@farmstead7706]

Making earl filters great again!

[@MortskeRepair]

Who the French is Earl?!? And what of his filters?!?

[@Sparkys_Sparks]

@@MortskeRepair Trump 2020

[@MortskeRepair]

@@Sparkys_Sparks I was wondering if anybody would catch that! Thanks for watching!

[@joshuaatkins5197]

I spotted that and immediately went to the comments to see if anybody said anything about it. Trump 2020

[@MortskeRepair]

@@joshuaatkins5197 Haha, thanks again for watching!

[@DeadReckon]

Been watching for years, forgot you did this. I'm about to do something similar to my '83 Dodge but I don't have a 12v coil around that won't burn up with constant 12v, so I'mma get a 90's HEI bracket and use that coil and mount the old HEI module to the bracket.

[@MortskeRepair]

Cool

[@lesliemclean4381]

Damnskippy, awsome move.

[@johncatalano7185]

Make sure those modules stay dry against the firewall.... Had a 75 power wagon that I had to replace ballast resistors by the gross because they kept getting drenched.....

[@MortskeRepair]

So far so good on this one!

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

Awesome video. Make a video of the install on your next mopar. Also make a video of your truck starting up and running. Thank you again

[@MortskeRepair]

Will do!

[@feeneysmechanical6215]

@@MortskeRepair how's the weather out your way

[@MortskeRepair]

@@feeneysmechanical6215 It's not snowing at least!

[@oneoldmansgarage7880]

I really like that. I have never seen it before. I haven't worked on any automotive stuff with points in years, heck I don't often work on stuff with a distributor. I think you might be the kind of guy I could drink beer with. :) Really like your content.

[@MortskeRepair]

I've been known to enjoy an adult beverage now and again... Thanks for watching!

[@beedalton9675]

@@MortskeRepair nice video I have a 318 85 dodge truck do you have to use coil with internal resistor. I tried this earlier but I used my old coil with external no spark or nothing so do I need coil with internal resistor?? Thanks man👍

[@markdavis7645]

Worked like a charm!! Thanks for the explanation :)

[@CoastalAutoReactionCAR]

Hey now our mopar runs mint!If you know how the Mopar ignitions work they are wicked good!

[@MortskeRepair]

Yeah the work just fine. I had to give the die hard Mopar guys a little ribbing!

[@CoastalAutoReactionCAR]

@@MortskeRepair Us Mopar and Chev guys gotta stick together lol

[@MortskeRepair]

I find it mind boggling a GM HEI module will even speak to a Mopar distributor!

[@CoastalAutoReactionCAR]

@@MortskeRepair Honestly it is cause Chev copied Mopar and refined the system it’s just a reluctance pick up really👍🏻

[@MortskeRepair]

@@CoastalAutoReactionCAR Yeah, it's all the same stuff. GM just made it more gooder!! ha

[@blt3479]

No way Mopar fanatics. You are right. It works excellent.

[@MortskeRepair]

Yes it does!

[@ghouliesgarage3922]

WoW learn something new each day .. .. Hey Duff

[@MortskeRepair]

🖐

[@henrycopeland133]

Old school gym parts to make a mopar run cool..

[@anthonywagher6689]

Doesint the old ignition box also have the voltage regulater in it.

[@shitbox7413]

Great idea, I’ll keep it in mind for when I own an old Dodge. 😄👍🏻

[@rsprockets7846]

we had a 74 sattellitte and even if it was damp dew in the morning it wood not start wood take another ballast resistor and plug it in or hit it with a hair dryer on lo

[@peteloomis8456]

Ballast resistor is bad that's causing the issue . Had this happen at times years ago on my buddies 69 Dodge Charger 440 6 car so once we figured it out he would just keep a spare in the glove box . It usually doesn't happen very much though but always carry a spare so you can just swap it out quick if need be .

[@MortskeRepair]

Yeah that's what it was but I like being different!

[@peteloomis8456]

What kind of shape is that truck in ? I have had a few of these through the years 2 68s 1 that was a ex Air force military crew cab 1 of less than 2000 made which I wish I still had because they are going for big bucks now & my current one is a 71 D100 utility line with shaved door handles roll pans front & rear with 68 super bee tail lights grafted into the rear pan lowered & has a 530 hp mild pump gas 440 with a prepped 727 & a 8-3/4 355 sure grip in the rear that I used to street race years ago in Mpls MN before I moved from that crap hole to Wisconsin where the beer & the woman are free lol . Anyway I looked but didn't see a video of this truck so if you can make one for it or tell me where it is because I have a soft spot for these old trucks ! Keep those videos coming & great job !

[@MortskeRepair]

@@peteloomis8456 It's well used but you just don't find a shortbed around here so I got it going and back on the road. Sounds like some cool rigs you had there!

[@rustyjeep2469]

@@peteloomis8456 That truck sounds awesome, you should upload a video...

[@MortskeRepair]

@Jeff Greenspon It's funny how them old timers know just what it is that's gonna leave you on the side of the road!

[@cowthedestroyer]

The really good thing about this mod isnt getting rid of the ballast resistor since its very rare for them to break and and dirt cheap and easy to swap its getting rid of the stupid ignition control module which fail all the time especially with todays parts. I just did it on my w150 i put a slant into and the truck runs pretty good with the gm crap in there

[@steveclary6507]

I have a 66 Dodge 225. Do you happen to have a part number for your Dodge hei distributor? Or a year/make/model to search with? Thanks.

[@MortskeRepair]

Just get one from a mid 70s slant six

[@thomashill4683]

Awsome.nice trick

[@OldeCarrGuy]

Did I just learn something from the Don of the Mid-West Mafia?

[@MortskeRepair]

You gall dang right Ginger Panther Beard!! Making Mopars great again!! (One GM part at a time)

[@MoparMan-ff8fb]

my dodge truck is 99 % mopar and 1% chevy HEI ICM 😁 still runs better then a chevy . I kept my mopar performance distributor . be sure to use the heat sink compound from best buy in the yellow and black package . the compound comes in a small plastic syringe and not that crap that comes in the box called silicone grease or dielectric grease. grease does nothing but keep stuff from rusting ! 👍 check out my first crappy video on my channel on my truck . get a mopar red white and blue repo oil filter and slap a Trump sticker on it between the red and blue stripe where it says mopar 👍🇺🇸

[@MortskeRepair]

That's a great suggestion Mopar Man! Thanks for watching!

[@anthonysantiago1999]

Love it!!

[@OOFGARAGE]

Hey made this mod on my 79 but it will only get spark now when I interrupt the trigger prong with 12v

[@MortskeRepair]

Must have something wired wrong.

[@OOFGARAGE]

Turns out got a crappy one from Amazon get what you pay for I guess gonna go grab one in town this weekend gonna go back through the wiring again to make sure thanks for the video probably watched it like 10 times by now trying to figure out what I did wrong thanks for the great content looking forward to more !

[@MortskeRepair]

@@OOFGARAGE Well I hope you get it figured out!!

[@randyhowe192]

I tried this mod on my 1979 Dodge 360. It started a couple of times but mostly would not start. I removed and bench tested the distributor with a variable speed motor while monitoring it with a multi channel digital oscilloscope to determine the minimum rotor revs/sec required for it to trigger an output from the Chinese version GM HEI module. As I recall it needed very precisely a minimum of 1 rotor rev/second. Then I put the distributor back in the engine and measured the actual rotor revs/second when cranking my 360 with a freshly charged battery. It was very slightly below 1 rev/second. Hence slightly too low to trigger a spark most of the time. An original GM module, and/or a battery with more cranking capacity, and/or a newer higher power starter motor might have worked okay. However I decided to return it to original instead.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

That ballast resistor looked good to me. What makes you think there was something wrong with it? What did the ohm meter going through it show? If you had a 4 pin box (common parts store purchase) one of the resistors, I think it's 5 ohms, isn't even needed.

[@MortskeRepair]

I just used everything that was in the 1976 D100 donor truck. I think it was the starting circuit on the ballast resistor was all that it would have needed but the wiring mess just drove me nuts! And I speak fluent GM. Thanks for watching!

[@auteurfiddler8706]

@@MortskeRepair The side with two wires is "Start". Opposite is is where the "run" current enters and goes through the resistor. If the ballast burns out, only Run is affected. It starts, then dies when the key is moved from start to run. Sometimes it does the opposite. Won't start during cranking but ALMOST starts as key moves to run.. That's a wiring issue.

[@MortskeRepair]

@@auteurfiddler8706 That's what it would do, if I put a jumper to the coil it would run. It would pop off if you let off the key from crank just in time. It had power going to the ballast resistor but I don't keep them on hand and wanted to be done with it. Had I been in a pinch or wanted to keep it OG I would have dug into it more and put a new one on. Thanks for the info tho!

[@MattsRageFitGarage]

@@auteurfiddler8706 We had a 78 B200 van for many years. I can remember several times it wouldn't start, no tach needle jump while cranking like usual, let off the key and it fires right up and runs fine. Had several ballast resistors fail that way. Not sure why they didn't just use a resistor wire on that system, never seen one of those fail.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

@@MattsRageFitGarage Well, the ballast (wire or resistor) is used when the key is in run but bypassed when it is in "start." So it sounds like your ballast wasn't bad. It could be the ignition switch itself or wiring. Some guys with cars with ballast wires WISH they had ballast resistors, Mopar style. When the wire is burned out, it is harder to find the problem than with a resistor.

[@myjunkertravels6897]

Im trying to find a old Dodge d or w 100 long bed truck. I got an evil idea. I was given a Plymouth 440 TNT big block V8 that's already bolted to a M72 4 speed stick. All rebuilt an ready to put into something Fugly as all get out. Edit: I build everything I drive outta junkyard parts an home made parts sumtimes. Cuz sum parts caint be found cheap an easy, sum parts ya gotta make yerself. Fer example, say ya got a issue with random full throttling while driving, or ya wanna set up an antitheft device no one has, fix up an old household light switch on the main power line to the fuel pump. Making yer vehicle not only idiot proof, but also giving yerself a kill switch fer in case of mechanical malfunction that is usually unforseen. I can name several times when I wish I had done this, so I started trying it an it's actually alot easier to do than I first anticipated. Good luck with that sweet pie pan Mopar bro. I hope to own one myself, preferably a long bed. Cuz I got a idea to make an evil daily driver that is useful fer everything I can do.

[@MortskeRepair]

I really enjoy this one as my daily! Sounds like you got yourself some projects as well! Thanks for watching!

[@myjunkertravels6897]

@@MortskeRepair all I need is a truck to stick this beastly engine into.

[@MortskeRepair]

@@myjunkertravels6897 If you set the bar low you can pick them up on every street corner!

[@myjunkertravels6897]

@@MortskeRepair I need 450 to get a sweet truck. I got 18 cents to my name.

[@MortskeRepair]

Oh boy, well, I can't offer financial advice on that one but I'd say you're not gonna get much for that!

[@dennislosing8800]

Can it work on ford dura spark system

[@MortskeRepair]

I believe so

[@cavaleiro95]

Do you need a special coil?

[@MortskeRepair]

Nope

[@cavaleiro95]

@@MortskeRepair ok so no ballast ether?won’t it burn up the coil or is it controlled by that hei module?

[@MortskeRepair]

@@cavaleiro95 I can't remember, been a couple years but no ballast resistor that I remember.

[@justinsane7128]

Sweet little dodgy.

[@Jeff4559]

I like the lack of wiring under your hood compared to what I’m looking at on my charger. Someone must’ve got drunk and went through it with some wire cutters and e-tape it’s a fuckin mess. I’ll have to try this out and see what all I can clean up

[@MortskeRepair]

that sucks!

[@Jeff4559]

@@MortskeRepair it does I’ve got it relatively cleans up now though. Though I’ve only got the car to fire up twice and for less than a minute before it died each time. could be a number of things as I’ve had it sitting there the past year.. I am having almost no spark or intermittent spark it would seem. I am using a few year old battery but my charger says it tests good and it reads 12v on the charger. Would this be a case of a weak battery or do I have another problem?

[@MortskeRepair]

@@Jeff4559 If it cranks over well it's not likely the battery

[@joebrock9784]

They also make a Ford distributor with the GM coil energy even cap on it for 302 351 and up motors so you got the GM benefit of the high energy mission and forward bottom on it so if it's important stuff easy way to get a Ford running correctly fast

[@MortskeRepair]

I've seen those!

[@JNTimperley]

Igniter vs Points distributor vs HEI I have a 1990 Lincoln Town with the Windsor V8. Looking for tune-up advice, how to get the best fuel efficiency. upgrading does sound like less maintenance but questioning ROI Return On Investment? btw the car has sat for 8 years and running well on warm days. but if I don't let it warm up 20* F or colder and try to drive off after 10 min it seems rough until it gets to operating temp. also after 45 to 1hr idle to op temp. it will kill the motor most of the time when I change gears R or D. I haven't noticed during warmer days dying during gear change but I have only had it for three weeks.

[@MortskeRepair]

I guess I'm not real proficient in those early EFI. I'd say that car should have a pretty efficient ignition in it already. You might have an issue where the computer doesn't think the car is warmed up. Maybe a temp sensor or a bad ground or an 02 sensor.

[@daddyshovel7995]

Them dodge alternators make 3 phase 220 A C .

[@74beeper97]

Ballast resistor

[@79tazman]

LMFAO!!! Mopars run great they don't GM parts but it's a cool conversion

[@neilmerrifield9633]

Why not put the best ignition ever made in it? I'll bet before if Duff peed on the tire, it probably wouldn't start! Pertronics makes a GM HEI distributor for Dodge, and Ford. Probably even one for the bent six? Don't worry about the bashin, most kids don't even know what a distributor is. We're a dying breed. I'm sure even the old Mopar guys would agree.

[@MortskeRepair]

What's the best ignition ever again?

[@EarthtonesCymbals]

@@MortskeRepair I think he is a desperate Pertronix sales rep?

[@justinsane7128]

Poor guy before he sold points he sold buggy whips

[@JO3BID3N-is-a-P3D0]

as a younger mopar head , im just glad to see any old vehicle being saved from rotting away in a field or something

[@budgetbuilds1833]

Do a burnout with the king

[@MortskeRepair]

Oh man. Clunky 4 speed. New rear brakes. Big new tires. All that raw horsepower! It’s gonna take some skill to do that one wheel peel!

[@devintolcou1393]

Where do I get one of those nifty "Trump 2020" oil filters?

[@MortskeRepair]

They're custom made!! Thanks for watching!

[@joaquinmireles3912]

Fird commercail what they dont tell is that chevys and didge make more horsepower than fords

[@MortskeRepair]

Dooped by another marketing scheme! I can't afford anything new anyway. Hence why I drive whatever I can afford that's old. Thanks for watching!

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

Put a ford alternator on it, just to be different.

[@MortskeRepair]

Maybe a Ford rear axle or front suspension but not an alternator!! GM is the key on those as well! Thanks for watching!

[@daneforgeron5483]