Moped loophole bill

[@johnathandaviddunster38]

It's a mystery why people dont have legal scooters in NYC , here in spain it works out at $ 4 per week for insurance road tax and inspection ....

[@malcolm4458]

It's not really a mystery. Pandemic year made everything happen this way. It's not that hard to figure this out.

[@johnathandaviddunster38]

@@malcolm4458 we had a pandemic in spain as well and the vast majority of scooter riders are legal , maybe getting a license is the main obstacle in NYC ???

[@malcolm4458]

@@johnathandaviddunster38 mopeds and scooters are a new thing here. Overseas that has been the norm for quite some time. I'm sure you know these are not the same situations. They already had systems in place.

[@anthonyurgitano2114]

Because most of the people on the illegal scooters are illegal themselves. They go through the park on the sidewalk and cops are scared to do anything. Very sad. Meanwhile honest people have to pay registration and insurance

[@samanthab1923]

Right? My brother had one in the 70’s in NJ. Had to get insurance & register it.

[@Mid.night1000rr]

Mmm they are parked in front of ever illegal immigrant shelter

[@mitchcarter442]

There being rented by those migrants for 150 a week but you would know this if you spoke with a migrant in front of that hotel.

[@Mid.night1000rr]

@@mitchcarter442 $150 a week being used to commit Arm robbery

[@mitchcarter442]

@@Mid.night1000rr I see it from CP as well.

[@Mid.night1000rr]

@@mitchcarter442 they want to enforce it if they catch a American Citizen. But if its an Illegal they have to give them a warning. Cant fix anything if you dont apply the rules to the majority that are to blame.

[@dominicanno809]

Time to leave NYC, I feel like I’m in the Dominican Republic which I clearly left years ago…..

[@xavilopez4716]

Yea looks like a third world country with those things all over the city .

[@danielbrown7535]

​@@xavilopez4716😂 wait till thems gotta ride snow

[@nyccollin]

Mopeds are like fat girls. Fun to ride, as long as nobody sees you.

[@weaveandwelfaretookblackme]

​@@nyccollinso just like ugly fat dudes 😂

[@grazz7865]

It’s not just NYShity. It’s the hole cuntry. Way too much government control over us. Our forefathers warned us about this centuries ago.

[@larryzaldivar5181]

So people could be clear, a moped is a pedal activated unit with a dispacement of 35-49 cc. A scooter is a unit that has no pedals and has an electric or kick start, with a displacement of 50 or higher. A 50 cc requires a regular drivers license and must be registered. 50 cc and above in many states requires a motorcycle license.

[@user-fc1ld9ts8u]

With all due respect. Are you really going to care about this distinction if one of them hits you?

[@davea6481]

He doesn't make the laws, if the state changes those requirements and classifications then they will have to abide by them, hes simply stating the requirements as the law stands now according to classifications. @@user-fc1ld9ts8u​

[@mindspinn311]

Exactly. They’re basically motorcycles and need to be registered, insured and licensed as such

[@EpsiIonEagle]

They should be registered at the DMV like every other automobile

[@missbritt288]

They dont have licenses to begin with that's why there rising 50cc bikes !!! Most places those are not considered real vehicles , though you could take them on the freeway you would look crazy

[@mtrotter325]

They are required in Texas for both moped and scooters, regardless of engine size. More restrictions for larger engines.

[@drewh3224]

As a pedestrian who grew up in Nyc. I have to watch out not only cars and trucks, now the dangerous unruly mopeds, ebike, escooters, and speedy bicycles!!

[@jollygreen4662]

And subway platform pushers

[@morgan1719]

Quick, clamp down on low cost energy efficient solutions. Then collect your check from the automotive and oil industries. Well done.

[@mogendo]

"Your convenience and safety", the words spoken every time governments impose taxes and restrictions on citizens.

[@123cbman]

I wonder why there is a problem??? Wait do we not have new visitors from south of the border where in their country do not follow the laws.

[@malcolm4458]

That's stupid. It's a problem because of lack of legislation and enforcement of laws

[@lisamaloof5772]

So true! Now they are riding 2 to a moped so they can steal womens purses Venezuelan style.

[@eukaryon]

It's just another tax. A license plate does not cause people to drive safer. Why not register and plate pedestrians?

[@jodiann4234]

I think they should be licensed as well as electronic bicycles. They are a deadly danger with their reckless speeding in all directions and on sidewalks.

[@nystreetpunisher9175]

WHERE THE HELL A LICENSE PLATE GONNA GO? SIT DOWN!

[@webste187]

They should probably limit the speed on regular cars too. They’re leading in accidents in all USA.

[@charlie29321]

The problem will take care of itself

[@grazz7865]

@@webste187they’re already trying that (and failing). It’s a safety issue. If you need to speed up to get out of the way (emergency vehicle for example), and your car is limited to let’s say 25mph, you could be delaying that emergency care possibly costing a life.

[@longcycler8832]

E bikes are NOT motor vehicles under Federal law HR 727 stupid. They are consumer mobility bicycles under the jurisdiction of the CPSC. The problem with you is you CANT think.

[@Magicmike12]

Why are the Mopeds even out side on the streets in front of the Illegal free loader hotel?

[@cancerking9416]

Our system is always reactive rather than proactive! Seems like we never can see further than our nose!

[@grazz7865]

It’s not the system. It’s people that take advantage of the system. I own two mopeds. Registered, insured, licensed. The people that choose to disobey the rules are the ones that make the rest of us look bad.

[@graysmith9218]

I wonder who are the people riding these unregistered mopeds? They're not even legal citizens, let alone legal mopeds. And Businesses are yet again burdened because of idiotic policy.

[@robjames9627]

Bingo

[@mtrotter325]

Just like people illegally purchasing weapons... because they're available

[@gdoll835]

Banned the mopeds. They don't follow the rules of the road.

[@malcolm4458]

Ban your silly comment.

[@hoodlambo]

Yes, strict regulations on mopeds will solve all of our problems! Just look at how the regulations on firearms made this city so much safer…

[@nyccollin]

Mopeds are like fat chicks. They’re fun to ride, if nobody sees you.

[@keenandx]

Neither do SUVs. Look what happened to that 8 year old.

[@thethinker6257]

Are you walking to get your food from your fav restaurant? Doubt it. 🤡 then shut it.

[@202One]

Scooters plus illegal unlawful Humans is the Problem..

[@mikemordkovich7653]

First - they require the license, then - the registration, then the inspection, then the insurance, then - for parking and all the money will be paid by the citizens to NYS, NYC government. How convenient (for government)? And sorry, I forgot the tickets, bridges, tunnels, paid roads (moped is able to go 50-60 mph). Forget about "free" pizza delivery (or any "free" delivery). The price for driving mopeds will be transferred directly to the consumers. The vendors may still call it "free delivery", but the actual price for the product (pizza pie) will go up...

[@wildchild4163]

Ever herd of genos pizza in a box you make it your self put all your leftovers on it and bake it . O we did that in the 60ds .

[@vinnyc1914]

They can drive the pizza to your house with a car like they used to and still do In most cases

[@stache1954]

Get off your a$$ and go pick up dinner.

[@EgoImpudicus]

Quit your bitching. The problem is these moped drivers act like they're bicyclists. They drive through bike lanes, go through plazas and parks meant for the public, and disobey many traffic laws which put New Yorkers in danger. It's a vehicle capable of going 50-60 mph which can cause harm to people if the person doesn't know how to drive it.

[@mikemordkovich7653]

@@vinnyc1914 The car "free" delivery is obviously more expensive for the pizza shop owner than the moped delivery. Let's assume, just for example, the numbers of car deliveries is 50/50 to the number of the moped deliveries. Then, if the government "requirements" for the moped became similar (equal) to the car delivery, the AVERAGE cost for the "free delivery may go up twice. Because the actual cost for the "free" delivery is never actually free. That EXTRA delivery cost may reduce the profit of the pizza shop owner, or (MOST LIKELY) crank up the final product price. And this is what I am trying to say in my initial post.

[@9davidlong]

Those are scooters, a moped has a small gas motor and bicycle pedals that you use to start motor. It can be used just as a bicycle or with motor running you choose.

[@malcolm4458]

Correct. But the two names have become synonymous.

[@nystreetpunisher9175]

E-Mopeds GET IT RIGHT!

[@9davidlong]

@@nystreetpunisher9175 I did.

[@mitchcarter442]

​@nystreetpunisher9175 can't be a moped if there's an exhaust pipe on the side of the vehicle

[@carlosnarvaez5086]

Yeah but you cannot pedal them because they'll be too slow , once it starts it's as fast as a scooter.

[@shmulyitzkowitz6479]

As a school bus driver in nyc for over 40 years and still on the job these mopeds e-bikes even regular bikes has become in my opinion the most dangerous traffic issue for motorists and pedestrians

[@eljefe6847]

It’s a great idea but why it took so long to be implemented. Granted the pandemic was our top priority but I’m sure they could handled it differently and not waited so long. However, there’s too many on the streets.

[@Holiday_Ringo]

Theres clearly an effort to enable black people to commit more crimes😂

[@CanaKnight]

The current law says these scooters are not street legal. The dmv will never register them and give them plates. If they bought legit mopeds from dealers like Vespa, Yamaha, Honda then that would not be a problem because they’re also licensed dealers with the state. 99 percent of the buyers get their scooters from toy shops and I have even seen them buy it from jewelry stores. So this new bill won’t do squat.

[@davea6481]

​@@CanaKnight Exactly

[@gerrylee1687]

These moped users are illegal immigrants

[@DavidDeWittStudio]

Everyone who rides a scooter is an illegal immigrant? That isn’t statistically possible :-)

[@smgmaxdetailing6010]

The license plate is so small that you can't see it. The registration will work a little bit but they will still do the same. We all seen the dirt bikes running through the cities. This is just a money game. E bikes are the same problem.

[@timmytube12]

I never trusted a vehicle that powerful that's gas and has a level of CC's without a license & Registration & Insurance .😮 Good for NYC & the N.Y.P.D. for cracking down on them .😮

[@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow]

why don't those things have a license plate, & insured like my car & Harley? I gotta carry insurance & a DMV but oh , not those Migrant's , they get a pass. NYC looks like a 3rd world city NOW! thank Gawd I left that hell hole a long time ago. Like what the hell are they using those unsured things for anyway?

[@malcolm4458]

You started off good but then went stupid. This is about legislation and enforcement of laws. Not about immigrants. There is no system in place for these to be 100% registered or no ability to ride. Nothing can be 100% but the current system is horrendous. FYI I see whippo hipsters in Williamsburg on Revels breaking the rules all the time.

[@weaveandwelfaretookblackme]

​@@malcolm4458its mostly illegal immigrants

[@chanmarr8118]

They don’t get a pass. This is a new issue that had no laws in place. Now that it is getting out of hand, they’re cracking down on it. A lot of them are using it for work, doing deliveries. Plus, they’re not getting them from stores. In some cases, the mopeds are being rented to them. As someone currently living in NYC (looking to move at some point), this has really gotten out of hand. I’ve yelled at people a few times for riding against traffic on a one way and almost hitting me or other pedestrians but I doubt they understand me anyway.

[@malcolm4458]

@@weaveandwelfaretookblackme what does that have to do with having businesses being forced to have them registered before point of sale?

[@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938]

Anytime there's an increase of something, it becomes taxed. Don't blame crime on your planned theft from the poor.

[@sharifkhan3589]

These mopeds ebike run careless in the city put other ppl in harm way so have an excuse like poverty is lame

[@mikeg6633]

True

[@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938]

@@sharifkhan3589 committing crime on stolen registered bikes does nothing to capture or stop this from happening. This happens everyday in England and Brazil and was happening in NYC on bicycles. Thieves don't buy and register vehicles for crime.

[@johnpaulkane6153]

Are you insane? These b******* drive up on the sidewalks. Go to red light like this is south america enough

[@cjninebot13]

In Brooklyn you got people riding bikes on the side walk at full speed

[@jcny08]

The beast way is to BAN THEM COMPLETELY IN the tri-state area PERIOD.

[@lisaflw6]

💯

[@malcolm4458]

That's stupid.

[@nyccollin]

Mopeds are like fat chicks. Fun to ride, as long as nobody is watching.

[@thethinker6257]

I dont think you are walking to get your food from your fav restaurant, then shut it. 🤡

[@DCoopVideos]

As always, thank you too some of those idiots riding Mopeds recklessly, now the city will get more money and those who followed the law will pay also smh.

[@ismaelnegrillo5329]

Tell them to GTOF the sidewalk and ride it on the street.

[@IallenIallenI]

More rich people complaining about how every one else gets around in this city. Go ahead, make ANOTHER mode of transportation unaccessible to certain populations of the city. It's not the anyone in charge of NYC gives a fuck about anyone living outside of the richest neighborhoods

[@JayHood129]

Stop mixing in scooters with ebikes one clearly has peddles the other does not. People seem to keep putting these two in the same category. One should clearly be licensed the other is an electronic bike.

[@mitchcarter442]

I agree 100% as it's propaganda and misinformation by misclassifying and misidentifying these mopeds

[@Tatamania]

Finally someone Is taking action about this reckless drives.

[@streetlegalsprintcar]

Hoodies and mopeds ≈ crime

[@carlosnarvaez5086]

The problem is that police don't stop them if they see no plate , no helmet , it's not a dealer responsibility.

[@grazz7865]

That’s correct. If I want to buy a vehicle but not drive it (as crazy as that sounds), I have that right. If I want to buy a vehicle for someone else as a gift, I have that right.

[@imb-alan-ced]

Problem is police CAN'T stop them. They'll just jump the curb and go through a park or down the wrong way of a street or something and the police wouldn't be able to chase them.

[@grazz7865]

@@imb-alan-ced you were on the right track. Police can’t do anything without getting fired or arrested these days so they just drive around and look important.

[@jz3430]

​@@imb-alan-cedThe precinct by my apt has close to 100 of them confiscated in their parking lot. Clearly, they are stopping them.

[@randymahoney-lz3sn]

that's right you tell him

[@imb-alan-ced]

Only gas powered, not e bikes. Sounds like e bikes will start increasing in sales until they apply this law to e bikes.

[@A3Kr0n]

I can still ride my 50kW triple motor ebike? Awesome!

[@Deeno282]

Just another way for the state too rob you blind.....if it was really about safety the law would just imply that the rider must adhere too all road laws.....

[@wileecoyote5749]

Amazon sells scooters right to your door

[@malcolm4458]

Amazing! I need higher quality so no Amazon for me.

[@danielbrown7535]

No luxurious accommodation and now cracking down on transportation...these fugneers gonna freeze

[@JayHood129]

How about they stop those things from being sold out of furniture stores jeez!

[@smrk2452]

This is great. But what is their plan for 2nd-hand sales?

[@mtrotter325]

Moped = 50cc (30mph+) Examples that will help moped/scooter states: In Texas, both require registration + insurance (regardless of helmet). Any =

[@StaceyLacey-sf5yk]

I seen them ride their mopeds on the sidewalk😡 where kids and elderly people almost get hit😡

[@Snacks1991]

What about electric scooters they need insurance too

[@BruceLee-lm7lh]

So little kids needs insurance for those cheap electric scooters to get to school?

[@Snacks1991]

@@BruceLee-lm7lh no the moped type

[@michaelweston1042]

The most expensive of those do 20mph. Which obviously most people don't have. The majority go 10mph to 15 mph. Basically the same speed as a bike. So basically you are saying anything with wheels.

[@danielbrown7535]

​@@BruceLee-lm7lhhell ya . Plus parking fee and ya rode it democrat fee

[@malcolm4458]

​@@BruceLee-lm7lhit goes by cc size.

[@Umustbecrazy]

Question for all NYPD officer situation? U are walking the beat, walking in the middle of the street to the right u see a old lady getting rob To the left u see this this guy on his Vespa who do u arrest?

[@User35003]

New York City has a million different laws. Is it possible for an ordinary person to recall all of these laws crafted by the senators?

[@Coffee240]

😂😂😂😂like those undocumented illegal immigrants are going to obey the law 😂😂😂😂, like a 100 is parked in front of those places that's got these criminals staying 😂😂😂😂

[@malcolm4458]

If the law is that at point of sale registration happens then, yes. They will because the legal responsibility will be on the business. I'm sure they don't want to get fined.

[@Coffee240]

@@malcolm4458 🤣🤣🤣🤣ok 👌 they don't sell drugs either never know. Like don't think the cops are going to stop them. 🤔

[@malcolm4458]

@@Coffee240 🤣🤣🤣 This is about traffic laws and being able to get recourse if you are involved in an accident with a motorized scooter. You're being extra now. However, having registered vehicles would make tracking these folks easier don't you think?

[@Coffee240]

@@malcolm4458 how do you give a undocumented illegal immigrant a ticket 🤣🤣🤣 put down Don Won 🤣🤣🤣

[@nyccollin]

Mopeds are like fat girls. They’re fun to ride, if nobody is watching you.

[@VICC42]

It’s about TIMEEEEEE! So many irresponsible drivers 🤬

[@bigdaddy5795]

I live in the Philippines and that is just how it is done here. The scooter is registered at point of sale.

[@rsupremexx3971]

They were suppose to put the responsibility on the retailer to begin with 🤡 allowing anyone to just buy a scooter just to do dumb shit was a horrible idea.

[@johndaly9843]

Many of the scooters driven recklessly are stolen so how is this a real solution ?

[@donvee2000]

most of them in the city are food delivery guys.... Much of the careless driving comes from making their pay dependent on each delivery.

[@aftermathsample305]

Wait, so registration wasnt done at the point of sale before? Thats like going to a dealership and buying a car and then the salesman is like, well, your job to go and get it registered! But thanks for the $30k

[@grazz7865]

You have that option. If you wanted to buy a car just to have but not drive, you have that right. If you want to go on your own to register it and insure it, you also have that right. Dealer charges for that anyway.

[@mikecutlet]

They should be licensed.

[@fireworkking5725]

I knew eventually motor scooters to become a big thing in our cities and it’s gonna spread just like in poor countries throughout the world. Everybody just has a motor scooter and I don’t even have a car that’s where we’re headed. And if we’re not careful and the pole riding, just bicycles without even electric just like in Beijing in like 1990.

[@ontheroad5555]

Electric mopeds are also nuisances. They go through red lights. And some riders use them to commit crime. So that's another loophole. Anything that is powered should have a license.

[@Bryan5288]

Welp. A lot of these delivery Ubercart & Grubhub guys are about to be out of a job.

[@ramcharger9146]

That still won't stop people from not paying insurance and not slapping plates on their bikes my dirt bike came with a registration doesn't mean it's street legal😂

[@vvveeva]

Yes this has been the law … if a car on the road it needs insurance…

[@danger26102]

Meanwhile liberal NYers rally to support moped drivers lol

[@aliwaward9951]

Yes I understand that. But how do you register without papers and I have an electric moped that they took I have no papers but a receipt three years I've had it now I'm gone I paid hard earn money I'm a veteran and a senior what do I do

[@shmulyitzkowitz6479]

If they were required to follow the same rules of the road as automobile it would be half the problem

[@user-fc1ld9ts8u]

In Brooklyn, I have seen them riding on SIDEWALKS. With plenty of near misses. Ebikes should be included because they are ridden on sidewalks. The law is not being enforced.

[@mindspinn311]

Those are all scooters, not mopeds. They are designed with licenses, registration and insurance in mind. Registration should have always been required, and so should a motorcycle endorsement.

[@mache2784]

Motorcycle endorsement for a moped is lame a regular license should suffice for anything 30-40mph.

[@jakeizlove]

Of course they targeted sellers, not buyers, and carved out an exception for e-bikes. It was stupid for me to think they could do the right thing.

[@marki992]

Registered, licensed and insured! I have dash cam footage of these guys running red lights and going the wrong way into on coming traffic

[@joesir2028]

It's about time!!!

[@robertsontirado4478]

Ex-mayor Bill made them legal.

[@lisaflw6]

I blame him as well.

[@malcolm4458]

I'm so proud of him. Best thing he ever did. No sarcasm. You don't like options of transportation then move to North Korea. Scooters allow for easy parking, reduced pollution, faster commute and safer than MTA. To hell with whoever wants to ban them.

[@robertsontirado4478]

@@malcolm4458 Most countries with moped all over the place are 3rd world countries. If that you thing, I am more of a polish NYC.

[@jollygreen4662]

AKA government want more of your money

[@AquaDogTTR]

Horrible take--these things need to be deregulated ASAP, especially the electric mopeds. They need to stop trying and regulate these things as cars, when they couldn't be farther from it. Smaller scooters belong in the bike category, and e-bikes and e-mopeds should not need to have a plate.

[@bgirl928]

Please make it illegal to drive mopeds on the damn sidewalk here in the Bronx!!!

[@thethinker6257]

Lol

[@DavidSanchez-cc7sq]

I believe she said at the end it doesnt go for E bike's as in electric scooters also

[@grazz7865]

Ebikes fall under different classifications.

[@angeldelgado6104]

Prohibid the sale, problem resolved

[@charlie29321]

Victimless crime. The problem will take care of itself.

[@sammya6469]

Now mopeds are gonna get bike jacked by criminals more than ever. Since some criminals don't even have license they can't register. So what they do go by it the lazy way.

[@erickn7985]

Well it's very interesting that the illegal immigrants shelters are home to dozens of these scooters.

[@Ground-up]

Fight that bill!!!!!

[@erikkison]

What happens if they break the law? Absolutely Nothing 😂

[@TainoGen]

As a hispanic. I have to admit. This is Puerto Ricans and Domicians to blame. They come from the island thinking they still there. I think it's good registrate them. On the island they need to get registered too, and they get taken away when they dont.

[@thethinker6257]

Leave the race card out, sapo!

[@TainoGen]

Being hispanic isn't a race. You might want to go ahead and change that username

[@GlowRiderzEntertainment]

There’s plenty of bad car drivers more dangerous then mopeds in nyc , not falling for this bull

[@adolfmcduck1265]

Woo Hoo black Market scooters.

[@lilflexlewis5802]

They need to pay insurance

[@brandonking6304]

Wow I was unaware that adding tax to something made it safer. In every state you can register a vehicle without having a license as long as you have insurance. 1:15

[@randymahoney-lz3sn]

and you're so weird going on because here in Kansas same thing license registration insurance for a 50cc moped I don't make no sense to me at all

[@pr0phet]

It's Vietnam out here.

[@mmassacre5337]

Those aren’t mopeds

[@mechanicandi1064]

About time 💯🤷🏾‍♂️

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

Standard practice in the UK

[@sv4996]

Those electris scooters and other similar that people think are ok to blast down the sidewalk doing 30-40mph on need to have MANDATORY insurace from the companies that let this dingdongs rent and abuse them, hit property, pedestrians, etc.

[@roger3958]

Ok, all those shown in this video are scooters. They have no pedals. What about ebikes? On a related note, I’m glad I don’t live in NYC.

[@jcny08]

That should go to all E- Bike and Gas powered as well, because it has two wheels just like a motorcycle and they go through the paper work so why cant it be done to those bikes as well. we need to fix this bullshit.

[@randymahoney-lz3sn]

so basically you're saying the driver's license or insurance papers or registered papers having a tag on his damn scooters going to make somebody drive any damn different oh oh okay any better or any worse

[@katiel.5568]

I hate them!

[@sv4996]

Usual entitled suspects, the You Know Whoooo's. When we were kids no one could ride ridiculous stuff like mini-bikes, four wheel ATVs, side by sides, moto-x bikes, etc on the street at all legally!

[@musicmike1960]

This crap should have been done years ago and I'm certain this new law won't stop illegal users doing what they have been doing...But at least NYC is waking up to find it's time to do something.

[@MrChristianbass2170]

Only makes sense

[@1artpier]

Isn't that law existed already? NYS law stats clearly for years in effect any mechanicly powered two wheeled wehicle must be "Registered, insured and operated by licens driver". No mopeds, no scooters or no padlebadle. Two wheels and engine = motorcycle. Get a helmet.

[@Letsgetmad36]

Yes!!!!!! I AGREE

[@bobbymarko8789]

Oh stop doesn't ny have anything else to do and most Mopeds are stolen anyway

[@johndillon1469]

LOL a NY Senator "it is like the wild west out there" never been further than DC, LOL what an idget

[@3089280288]

Scooters