Mora Garberg - Opinions and Update(Too Soft?)

[@chasesavant7680]

I’ve been carrying the garberg for over a year now and I have used it for all manners of bushcraft. I have carefully examined the edge and I can say, without question, that it is intact and has held its profile very well. I can see no visible signs of damage and I can assure anyone watching this that the garberg is a great knife. Do not let this video discourage you from buying this knife.

[@whengrapespop5728]

Chase Savant The Garberg was only $25 on Amazon for 3 days, so I decided to buy one. I bought the Terava Jääkäripuukko 140 instead of the Garberg a few weeks back, but I decided to buy the Garberg as well since the price was strangely low. I don’t want to hoard knives, but at the same time it would be nice to have a strong Stainless Steel knife along with my Terava, Companion and Eldris, so I hope It’s worth it like you said.

[@JordanMac79]

@@whengrapespop5728 it's so funny people actually question if they should buy it when it's on sale for 25$. Like are you serious? At the very least buy 4 of them and resell them when the price goes back up.

[@whengrapespop5728]

James Fuckin Bond It was a scam.

[@wallytaggart2612]

His prejudice against the knife shows through...the only people that seem to complain about the garbergs are the price complainers - comparing them to their $15 -$20 and "why is the garberg expensive" cuz they can't accept and grasp a knife company branching out..like bizarro world knife snobs. The ones who decide to change the original integrity of the knife, by changing the profile...and then blame the knife and claim it sucked before but never seem to have any evidence of that...and they're youtubers. lol lol. And oeople that get butthurt that it's better or may be seen as better than their more expensive knives. don't like it for the price? don't buy it and move on. Don't like it's performance? trade it or give it away...broadcasting bitching about it being a shitty gift but it was a gift so you'll keep it isn't really being a white knight about it.

[@JokkeHimSelf]

@@wallytaggart2612 "I" fixed with the blade, every complain towards the blade is really my own fault... :P Oh look, a twig, but it's not green or brown or the colour, material or anything that I like, so let's complain about that as well... :P

[@theechoinggreen6175]

I have the carbon and stainless versions of the Garberg. They are both great. As an aside, I had a problem with the rivet on the belt loop of the leather sheath snapping and Mora replaced it within a couple of weeks. Best customer service I've ever experienced.

[@ulary]

Hi, Echoing Green.I can afford only one, I have the bushcraft black and would like to get either the Garberg stainless steel or carbon steel, which do you suggest?

[@SavageVoyageur]

I’ve had many many knives in my life. The Mora Garberg Carbon ranks up there at the top on the list. After I removed the micro bevel it was razor sharp. I see zero reason to use any other knife.

[@BallistaClub]

I am using the knife from more than an year and I can not agree with you! The steel rocks, the design is unique but you keep talking how this knife doesn't fit your idea for Mora and refering to the old models ! :) How the edge was sharpened and how you managed to get warps is absolutely subjective! Still Thank you for sharing!

[@_J.F_]

Why are so many people obsessed with using their knives for chopping and generally speaking bashing it around as much as possible? If you want to chop and hammer and bash, get yourself an axe or a machete. Mora knives, and most knives to be honest, are designed for cutting, slicing, carving, and food preparation etc. Using it as an axe is like eating soup with a fork......stupid and very inefficient!

[@SpartanJohns]

knives with a 4-5 mm thick spine are designed for slicing tasks only? you didn't think it thru, did you? that is what i call stupid and inefficient

[@_J.F_]

@@SpartanJohns I wrote "Mora knives, and most knives..." and there is no Mora knife with a 4-5 mm thick spine, so I would say that you are the one who did not think it through. I am sure that there are some knives with 4-5 mm thick spines around, but think that they are probably not as common as those with 2-4 mm thick spines. Either way, if you are willing to haul a lump of metal like that around why not get a machete or a small hatchet instead?

[@SpartanJohns]

@@_J.F_ mora garberg 3.2 mm thick spine. made for carving? have you ever worked wood with a 3.2 mm thick blade? i am sure you have not

[@_J.F_]

@@SpartanJohns Have a look here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWiQdYB9bLJ4qtU

[@SpartanJohns]

oh...sorry for the delay...i laughed really hard and forgot all about it. "carving is definitely it's strength" and the results are not coming. Seriously: think for yourself! Don't believe what others tell you! Get a Mora 510, sharpen it and carve with it. Then get a Garberg, sharpen it and carve with it. You WILL see the difference. If you DON'T DO you CANNOT UNDERSTAND. Why do you believe one person because it is what you want to hear and not another one who tells you something else? I don't much care what you believe. But if YOU do....grab a knife and start cutting! Then come back and we can talk about it

[@wildmansticks9672]

Thanks, you've cured my insomnia!

[@SpartanJohns]

Glad I could help! If you ever have issues sleeping again please feel free to keep watching my latest videos on a loop.

[@JordanMac79]

I dont understand all the "my robust can do everything the garberg can do" comments. Like no shit. The robust can do anything an esee will do as well... it will do anything an enzo can do. So do we just limit ourselves to the robust and companion?

[@SpartanJohns]

those comments are meant more for people who are looking at buying one or the other. If people want a reliable knife and do not know which to chose then these comments might help them.

[@guncotton1950]

@N just because you do not agree does not make it a shitty review but your attitude makes you a really shitty person and that it my review of your personality

[@deadahead8701]

Like your no B.S. reviews a lot of KZbinrs get tickled buy a product and don’t give a tough enough review on it. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@KnifeCrazzzzy]

The mora robust is still my favorite knife for anything around its price point! Just a beautiful wonderful knife for an amazing price. I wish they still made it.

[@KM-je5xt]

The one thing you did not mention that you have had Mors over 8 years. so you a good grasp on how they work and feel to you. Great video thanks

[@saradreaming]

I agree. A Mora just isn't the same without that perfectly pointy tip. Awesome discussion my friend! :-)

[@HighCarbonSteelLove]

Great video, as always, my friend! -Dave

[@FelixImmler]

Hello Denis. Thank you for this interesting video. Best regards Felix

[@321berber]

Thanks for the longterm review! I know we discussed the Mora Garberg when it came out and you did your first video. And to be honest although i am a great fan of the "old" Moras and always thought the new gimmicky bushcraft bandwagon line is not for me i had to try the Kansbol (which i got dirt cheap) and the Eldris which i got as a present. I like the Kansbol just as much as my Mora 2000 which is my oldest Mora. But i like the handle on the 2000 better so i see no point in the Kansbol. I was surprised with the Eldris. I love that knife and it actually sits in my jacket since roughly two years daily. It does a lot of edc tasks and is by far the best ferro rod striker i ever used. On to the Garberg... you said its very expensive... you can get them for like 55-65€ nowadays when they are on sale which is still a lot for a Mora but OK for a fulltang knife imho. I was very close to buying it numerous time because as an old Mora fanboy i cant deny i was curious about the knife. Luckily i got the chance to handle a friends one which had the factory secondary bevel and i didnt like it at all to be honest! It's a weak slicer with the factory edge and kinda spoils the concept of having a scandi grind?! In my opinion for a survival type of knife what the Garberg is supposed to also be, a scandi isnt the best grind anyways and if the steel isnt tough enough to take a beating with a scandi grind (like you demonstrated) the whole concept makes no sense to me. Too soft for scandi so you give it a secondary bevel which makes it a bad slicer... no point for me. To make a long story short the Moras i use the most are the Eldris as my EDC, and STILL a 510 or Classic 2 around my neck out in the woods, a 2000 for fishing and a Companion HD or Robust if i need a beater.

[@321berber]

PS I also got the Bushcraft Black and have not been impressed. Its pretty cheap now though.

[@MichaelTravis12c27]

Interesting. I did the same thing to the edge on my stainless Garberg and I haven't seen that issue.

[@projekctx8646]

That is also my observation. Not mentionning the edge retention that stainless outclasses the carbon.

[@JordanMac79]

@@projekctx8646 no. It does not

[@projekctx8646]

@@JordanMac79 Well it acctually does, I have tested it on a rope. Also that is an opinion of a Production Manager from Mora.

[@ulary]

@@projekctx8646 How is it holding up? I have one but never had the opportunity to test it because of the pandemic

[@projekctx8646]

@@ulary Garberg? Excellent! I have it for already... 4 years and counting. I didn't crush rocks with it but also never spared from heavy tasks like splitting nutted logs, and it always did an outstanding job. However I think that one of the most important things about garberg is the grip. It's very comfortable, however this can be an individual case, but it's extremely robust and grippy. Actually the more you use it, the more grippy it gets, regardless form the conditions. If compared to micatra scales garberg's grip it's supreme. For me micarta is cold and terribly slippery in dry and cold conditions. Lately due to unquestioned, at least for me, being much more "elegant" than stainless I bought carbon version and I what can tell after three months of occasionally use, it gets nicks on the edge much faster than stainless. however this maybe not very trustworthy opinion because as said the use was very occasional. The real test will be in second half of May, when I'm gong to take it for three days fishing camp, where it will prepare wood for fire, will do some camping implements. Let's see after that in what condition it will return.

[@johnshorba]

I have the Garberg also for a year now, I like it and hate it, I have noticed the steel is good, but for a thick scandi it doesn't work, it does not chip which is nice, but with very little batoning it shows light spots on the blade, and loses its razor sharpness very fast, now i put a light convex edge on it, so far that helps, but for how solid the knife is you want to use it harder then what the edge allows. Secondly, the way the edge swoops up toward the hand gives it more belly, but it really makes feather stick making uncomfortable. Other Moras are either straight or have a slight upsweep in the blade making it significantly better for carving and slicing tasks.

[@ulary]

Would you suggest the carbon steel then sir?

[@johnshorba]

@@ulary the carbon steel is great, i love the bushcraft black. I love the Garberg design other than the blade curving towards the handle instead of a strait blade to the belly

[@projekctx8646]

One remark. The secondary bevel on teh garberg is not 35 deg per side but 35 in total. I'm bashing my garberg pretty hard over 2 years already, and never had any edge warpage issue. Also removed the secondary bevel.

[@SpartanJohns]

35 in total would mean 17,5 degrees per side. And that is just not the case. in the beginning it was steep or steeper than my Junglas. Now I removed the secondary edge and it stand somewhere around 13,5-15 dps

[@projekctx8646]

@@SpartanJohns Well, this is the info I got directly from Production Manager at Mora, so they're rather certain :-)

[@stefanromanov9797]

Without a doubt garberg is the best morakniv.Waaay better than the other moras.And a very good knive for the money.

[@SpartanJohns]

I got it as a present...if I would have spent the money for it i would have been very dissapointed Not a bad knife....but not quite worth the full sum, imo Maybe the Carbon steel version is better

[@redflag2613]

It's true.. thin mora companion CS is really easy & fun to use.. So do kansbol..

[@MiroAcronymity]

Moin Denis, das war ein sehr interessantes Update. Danke dafür! Ich mag mein günstiges Mora mit Edelstahl sehr gern. Es ähnelt etwas deinem Robust, aber hat eine etwas andere Griffform und ist auch nochmal anders als das Companion. Ein super Messer! Hast du Probleme mit deinem Daumen? Mir ist aufgefallen, dass du immer Ductape oder ein Pflaster drauf hast. Gute Besserung! PS. Hast du Lust nächstes Jahr zu Gast bei meinem Podcast zu sein? Du hast zwar länger kein deutsches Video mehr gemacht, aber ich vermute sprachlich wäre das kein Problem für dich und du wärst mir sehr willkommen. Die Folgen sind allerdings sehr lang. Ca. 2-2,5h würde die Aufnahmen wohl dauern, wobei ich versuchen will die Folgen in Zukunft etwa halb so lang zu machen. Der Podcast heißt Messerschnack.

[@zetterberg]

I bought the garberg for 60 on sale. At first didnt like what seemed like hard plastic handle. Have been testing amongst esee4, esee4 hm, and condor trivittata puuko. Have grown to like garbergshandle the most much to my surprise. But the trivittata is probably just as comfortable. The only flaw so far is the garberg is first to dull and need a strop. As an aside i also had an 01 trapper that was extremely comfortable. But the edge frequently developed micro nicks. Maybe i needed to reprofile it. Sold it

[@SpartanJohns]

I never had any issues with Brisa's heat treat. I think their heat treatment of D2 rivals even custom ones. I think the Garberg is overpriced. It's not bad but as long as the Companin HD can do the same things...no reason to "upgrade"..at least in my case

[@MartinLeschinski]

Hi Denis! Danke für das hilfreiche Video. Ich nutze das 510 und das Skrama mit Carbonstahl für Holzarbeiten, neben dem Enzo Necker 70 (als EDC)mit Sandvik 12C27 - was meine Scandi Anschliffe angeht. Das Casström No 10 Flachschliff mit Sandvik 14C28N nutze ich auch für Holz aber mehr für Nahrungsmittel. Das Esee 4 nehme ich mehr aus sentimentalen Gründen ab und an noch mit raus, weil es ein Geschenk meiner Frau war. Neben den Spyderco PM2 all black, Para3 S110V, UKPK und dem GiantMouse Ace Biblio Micarta M390(EDC)... Alles wunderbare Messer. Das 510 rockt stark mit und übertrifft einen Grossteil von denen in der Performance. Ich nehme es hart ran und es enttäuscht nie. Schöne Vorweihnachtszeit! Martin

[@manzilkumarmandal4492]

Dbk for fun spartan is for real mens 😎

[@PotenzaVito]

nice honest reviews my friend , always good to see your video ,by the way i got around and got the lansky sistem i did take your advice went x the stone one not the diamond ,works great , still using my spyderco stone x other things , the lansky doing great take slow and with help of couple beer get great edge on ,i will get some diamond stone to do re-profiling some hard steel ,but all good , take care my friend all the best

[@steveottavaino3804]

Excellent review and right on point. Very good advice delivered by one who obviously understands his craft and can present clearly. Thanks for sharing!!

[@mdubb4855]

I think you should try another sample. Mora has a factory tour video and it looks like they invested a lot in heat treatment for their stainless. And 14C28N has a terrific reputation even from Knife Nerds. My only complaint about it is the high price relative to other tougher Moras. I can’t figure it out.

[@SpartanJohns]

I didn't buy a Mora for years. I have about all I want when it comes to them. As work knives they are awesome. The 510(new 2 mm spine) are great wood working/hobby/bushcraft knives. And the Companion HD is fantastic. Anything above that....I really don't want to spend money. For ithe Gaarberg's price...plus a small amount I can get some really nice, stout folders fixed blades...

[@mdubb4855]

@@SpartanJohns I can see your point about the Companion Heavy Duty being the best price to benefits point. Still I love the disposable 511 the best. Stash everywhere like a squirrel with acorns.

[@vincemedak9734]

When people say full tang is more durable they are not talking about the blade taking damage from batoning they are talking about the handle separating. How did you remove the micro bevel? Did you possibly ruin the temper when reproducing the blade?

[@SpartanJohns]

I think the firsr point is obvious. But a full tang knife is not necessary. See my video on the mora robust. Secondary edge was removed manually

[@waldgeist9007]

The only difference between the Mora (Classic) Robust and the Companion HD is the grind angle (23° vs 27°).

[@ScottieG59]

With the excellent inexpensive Moras, I could not justify the more expensive options.

[@AaronJohnson1979]

My Mora GARBERG took some edge rolling doing light buttoning. Its too soft

[@SpartanJohns]

it should not do that. buttoning is a tailored process of turning buttons into smaller buttons. Try a lighter As for splitting wood or batoning....if you are going with the grain the wood should split. if you are going cross grain and use more force...warping might occur with thin edges..not with something as thick like the garberg....but that's just my opinion

[@MadM0nkey]

A combination of standard companion in stainless along with a robust pro with a filed spine is a very cost effective and versatile solution for el cheapos like me as long as one is comfortable carrying 2 knives.

[@SpartanJohns]

nothing wrong with having 2 Moras. I usually just like to have the 510..the older version was better.the one with the 2.5 mm thick spine....but the new 510 black is a better slicer..and it can take some abuse...plus it is really cheap

[@ndubstar]

I like a flat grind like on the ontario bush field for slicing. And for hunting and slicint it would really be better. But the scandy grind really cuts the wood off like a maniac. So its kinda a better survival grind. And the point is like an ice pick.

[@SpartanJohns]

Flat grind usually have a larger edge angle. You can drop that one and see how much better it will do due to it having less steel backing it up and adding friction inthe cut. The only Ontario knife I have is the RAT1. I like some of their designs but prefer ESEE more because of their warranty and excellent HT

[@user-sp7ix7lm9q]

Hi! What alternative to Garberg could you recommend under 100$?

[@SpartanJohns]

Depends what you are going for. Just function? For bushcraft? Mora Companion HD or Bushcraft Black. Both better than the Garberg imo. Function and looks? I'd have to go with the EnZo Trapper. I have the D2 version, "scandi" ground blade. Very happy with it. on the second hand market you can find them way under 100$. You can get it as a kit and assemble it yourself.

[@user-sp7ix7lm9q]

@@SpartanJohns Thanks! No survival. Light bushcraft and cooking I'd say. What about enzo trapper flat?

[@spider5001]

I did miss the pointy tip. Also I wish the edge went all the way to the handle like other Moras. Besides that though I have beat the tar out of mine and all I have had to do is touch ups. I’ve had the blade bent very badly in a knot and when I got it out it was straight.

[@SpartanJohns]

I would like the same things you pointed out. the 3.2 mm thick spine will most likely bend back if the bend is not too severe...

[@InLakech_AlaKin]

What's your knife of preference?

[@MrWaymanc]

Good vid. For me, I'll continue to use my Kansbol and 511. My Tarava Puukko 140 belt knife is far superior over the Garberg in my opinion.

[@ventsolaire]

Mora has also released Garber in carbon steel. What do you think?

[@JordanMac79]

Better edge retention and easier to sharpen. But rusts.

[@MSLBushcraftSurvival]

Does anybody know if the Mora Garberg Carbon has a micro bevel as well? I would guess that the carbon steel is tougher and can handle a zero scandi edge. Hi Denis, ich hab mir gerade auch ein Garberg in Stainless besorgt. Meines hat eine ziemlich schlecht gemachte micro Phase mit kleinen macken wo das schleifband zu lange Kontakt hatte. Enttäuschend wo doch gerade mora für seine perfekten und scharfen schneiden bekannt ist. Und das auch noch bei dem Preis... Finde ich sehr schlecht!

[@projekctx8646]

Yes it has.

[@ivangrylls]

el mejor mora que hay.un saludo.

[@n9oqu]

i wish Mora would put the blade sharpness angles on the knife. Not too much to ask and not very expensive to do.

[@SpartanJohns]

I wish they would accept feedback from users. no ricasso, no secondary edge angle....who knows...maybe in the future they will...

[@T37912]

I've got one. Honestly ? I never use it. My tomahawk and Victorinox (for now the Hercules but a bit to bulky in the hand for the outdoors and for the other tools overkill seeing I always have my Swiss Champ) gave, so far, always done the job. Alain PS Forgot to mention, to me it is an excelent knife, it's just that I have no need for a fixed blade.

[@CalebAble]

Hey dude. I hope you had good holidays, what in your opinion is the best folding knife under $20?

[@SpartanJohns]

Thank you! I hope you had good holidays as well. Under 20$ i would always go with a Ganzo. And then it just depends on the model you like and what purpose you have in mind for it. Some have a thicker grind some have a thinner grind. Personally as an all around knife I like the G745. For EDC and for various bushcraft tasks. The grind is in the middle... and the tip is very useful. If you are not into Ganzo...I guess Opinel would be the only other choice under 20$ which would make sense

[@TheEbelekgubelek]

Esee or mora? What would be your go to knife?

[@AR9ify]

Another KZbin "expert". For anyone contemplating on acquiring a Morakniv Garberg, disregard this nonsense and go get that great knife. You will not be disappointed.

[@SpartanJohns]

Thanks! Always nice to see people with no content whatsoever telling us "HOW IT REALLY IS" Have a great day!

[@jackchn23]

Honest review. Subbed.

[@SpartanJohns]

Thank you

[@TheSpoovy]

A survival knife is never going to be as good at bushcraft as a thinner lighter blade, but it will be less likely to break under heavy/ unusual use. This is the the tradeoff you make. Why people continue to be confused by this is beyond me.

[@SpartanJohns]

I agree. My issue is with marketing. and the fact that a balance can be achieved. effort, good steel, good HT and some thought is required.

[@cwrowe]

You still carrying your PM2?

[@TheSlimshady955]

Of course the garberg will not be exceptional in a specific task... its meant to be a survival polyvalent knife lol

[@Chineseknives]

It is strange that a expensive mora was worst than cheaper ones. May be yours had a bad treatment. Regards!.

[@Chineseknives]

@@manzilkumarmandal4492 You notice that you know a lot about knives to talk like that. Do us a favor, learn a little before speaking.

[@manzilkumarmandal4492]

@@Chineseknives apart from ganzo there is no Chinese knives i can trust on

[@Chineseknives]

@@manzilkumarmandal4492 Of course of course... do you know about: - Sanrenmu - Real steel - Harnds - Kizer - Hx outdoors ...and more and more, good brands.

[@manzilkumarmandal4492]

@@Chineseknives seriously bro you name this , i can deal with hx outdoor for a sec but sanrenmu 😂😂😂 damn you are so noob in knives

[@Chineseknives]

@@manzilkumarmandal4492 Sanrenmu is one of the best brands for the price. In fact, Sanrenmu in budget knives level can be the most popular (and one of the best) of all chinese brands. So... again, please learn a bit before speaking, right?. See you!.

[@andrewburgess633]

good review- the cheaper Moras do just as well. Do you like the Eldris? that one has kind of grown on me

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

Love that lil knife

[@paulie4x1]

Say Heah Denis, WhaZ'Up, Oh, Happy Holidays, What do you think about the carbon Geberg. Too'Dee Loo.,,.p

[@grandriver3152]

So another thing from Sweden that's gone soft.

[@frisb.7948]

2:41

[@SpartanJohns]

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[@ernsthelder7928]

Junge du hast wirklich keine Ahnung!!!

[@SpartanJohns]

Ist das dein Ernst? Oder Meinst du das wirklich? Ernst? Oder Ich dort obern, in ein Video, Messer geschliffen, sachen geschnitten, du hier unten....in die Kommentare! Ach kleiner....nimm dich selber nicht so "Ernst".