Morbid Angel - Trey Azagthoth’s Wind Rift Technique Explained

[@XxAstroX]

Bro, so amazing you make this vid. For the records and USA touring I used a Home Depot box fan..., but years ago touring over seas I used whatever I could get. Mainly a round fan like you use here. So cool you showing the Wind Rift. Next time try the Anti-Vacuum Culture Mic Technique. That one is tricky.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Many thanks for your comment bro. And I'm glad you find cool that I did this vid of this brillant technique. I will have to try again your other techniques, when I first tried them it was indeed more tricky and I wasn't happy with my result.

[@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames]

You are one of the most creative guitarists ever!

[@Shycartel]

Thank you so much for all the years of music Trey, hope you are well!! You inspire me like few others do.

[@IscariotHeartwork]

is this fr Trey's account? Some of the videos are a bit embarrassing. If someone whines about "DEI" (a term normal people don't use), they are stuck in some weird rabbit hole.

[@XxAstroX]

@@IscariotHeartwork DEI is a silly thing to let dummies not be seen as how lame they are

[@Metal_Jim_in_TX]

To truly get that classic tone, it has to be a ‘69 to ‘78 Montgomery Ward fan with the blue fan blade and CTS 400k capacitors. The ‘80’s era and after was just not the same when they moved production to East Borneo. If you’re lucky, you can find some Guitar Center limited reissues of the ‘70s Era fans on the Andy Sneap forum, complete with the translucent blue blades and ungrounded power cord. Just be prepared to pay top dollar.

[@Jonsugg]

🤣🤣🤣

[@remibrox1066]

😂

[@PeterVenkman_666]

You've just started a toneblade discussion

[@scaleitback1055]

The fan is the key to invoke the ancient ones.

[@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip]

You forget the Power Ranger action figures and Bratz dolls, good to see you Jerry.

[@scaleitback1055]

@@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip I messaged you a while ago on discord

[@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip]

@scaleitback1055 Yea I took a long break from everything, had a lot of shit goin on, will respond soon

[@morkeherrer2024]

So the fan is Yog-Sothoth, the All-In-One and the One-in-All, the key to the gate, the Guardian of the Gate; past, present, future?

[@pumpkinsinspace1879]

Scale it back…

[@paulvaladao8873]

Adds that otherworldly like atmosphere

[@veltealexander]

Thank you for taking the time to show how incredible Treys work is. I feel like them man and the band don't get enough attention for all their amazing work.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I agree. Trey is among those guitarists that have changed the rules of the game with his uniqueness. It's not only that he is good at playing scales or whatever, it's that he has experimented and created new things that nobody has been able to imitate, and the feelings he put into his playing is unique and recognisable. The same with Morbid Angel.

[@mikeess]

I recall doing this in my bedroom on accident back in the early 2000s after I noticed the unique sound as my box fan was a bit too close to my amp. About a year later I found out about Morbid Angel and Trey's technique. I'm so happy you've chose to focus in on this. I had so much fun with this as a teenager and it was one of MANY reasons I fell in love with Trey's playing all those years ago.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

That's a cool story!! Yes without even recording anything, just the fan close to the amp creates this very interesting sound.

[@AllofJudea]

Try a flange or phaser. Save money

[@nathaninostroza7655]

Subscribed as PHUCK. Thanks for revealing this and your rad sounds on your own band s efforts.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Many thanks, and glad you like my own sounds!!

[@williamsimpson5507]

This is so cool! I remember reading about this in an interview back in the day and thinking it was crazy.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Yeah it's really cool!!

[@noisynacho]

Patrick, your channnel is an absolute treasure find to me. Absolutely enjoy your videos pal!

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Thank you, I'm glad you like my content!!

[@jaaaaab]

i wanna say almost all the songs on heretic use this at some point, sick video

[@furin121]

That's pretty cool. Morbid Angel was my introduction to the heavier side of metal back in my early teens (early 90's). Been a fan ever since.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Almost the same for me, been introduced to their music when I was 13 when Blessed are the Sick came out, and was instantly blown away by how unique and outstanding it was compared to the other extreme metal bands at that time. Fell in love with that album.

[@CassiusKonway]

No pun intended 😂

[@miguelroa7743]

This is awesome and great solos, thanks for sharing!

[@khalez1471]

Hi. Je regarde tes vidéos depuis des années et je serai vraiment content de voir d'autres avec des explications de divers techniques de trey. Big support d'Algérie.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Merci beaucoup de suivre mes vidéos depuis des années et le soutien 🤘

[@diabeticmonkey]

Thank you! I was searching for this a few weeks ago and came up empty handed.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Cool, so my video came on time :)

[@psychedelicfella]

You’ve successfully tricked me into listening to your bands albums. Good job, dude 🤘

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Awesome, many thanks for having checked them out. 🤘

[@lordgraga]

Pretty cool, I think it would’ve been interesting to hear with the fan-side high passed or having the fan base frequency notched out

[@djabthrash]

Exactly. It's hard to hear the desired effect with such a loud resonant frequency... I pretty much only hear that here...

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Yeah, here I mainly wanted to get that "what you hear is what you get" type of thing, but there's some adjustments that can and must be done, post-prod or by trying different fans, different amp volumes. I really suggest to listen to it in the context of a mix, where I bet nobody can hear those frequencies, for example in my Cleansed in Pestilence cover kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYa4d3SNaNWthsU

[@brandontadday6288]

Holy shit, this is so cool! I had no idea that this kinda mic’ing technique even existed. Kinda sounds a little like a subtle ring modulation effect. It’s kinda reminiscent of a whammy flutter as well (but just always ‘on’ if that makes sense).

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Yes Trey's idea to put a fan between the amp and the mic is so cool!! This is subtle and no pedal can do this effect. With the fan blades there's a lot of subtle frequencies added to the amp tone that I like, not just the vibrato effect. By the way, by just putting a fan in front of the amp, not even recording anything, it sounds very different and so interesting.

[@satarello]

Patrick you are amazing !!! I always thought that this is sound noise from the amp hahaha....aaand So many years I couldnt understand why Trey using this. Amazing tone !!!! as always...I going t otry the same ...cheers Patrick

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Thank you!! Yeah it really adds some very interesting effects that no pedal can achieve

[@satarello]

@@patrikbnvn2847 very innovative !!!

[@jamescon55]

GREAT playing man! 💯... You got er toned IN, pretty close indeed, sounds killer. 🤘🤘

[@jorgebermejo3708]

Wow, great tip! Amazing channel, by the way 🙌👏

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Really glad you like the content of my channel!!

[@Haxprocess]

Would you happen to know if Trey has ever combined the Glass jar and Metal bowl tehniques in the same solo? As far as I know, he always did them separate, never combined. I combined them for some solos ob my upcoming album, and im reallt happy with the sound, very aquatic

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I don't know unfortunately. I'm pretty sure that he combined the Wind Rift and the Anti-Vacuum (glass) techniques, but not sure he did other combinations. But cool that you've tried these, I'd like to hear this one day

[@Haxprocess]

@patrikbnvn2847 Thanks for the reply, yeah I combined the Anti-Vacuum and Xposetron (metal bowl) techniques for some leads on tracks 1 and 2 on our upcoming album, I'll send you a link in this comment thread once the album's out and you can check it out if you want

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@Haxprocess Cool, looking forward to hearing it!

[@JimmyPageMarley1]

What’s the name of the song used in the intro of the video? 0:01

[@patrikbnvn2847]

"At One With Nothing" from Gateways to Annihilation

[@StarkJJ]

.... But you can hear the mechanical hum of the fan? 😐

[@DizzyDez613]

In a world where you can do almost anything in post, sometimes it’s the simpler things

[@Grim.Tyrant]

Great effect, and your playing rocks

[@OKFCPrez]

0:21 you're doing some insane tapping and a crazy fast run. Has your fretboard ever caught fire while you are playing?

[@ashgonza92]

Broooo that was some clean playing

[@jack_1266]

Can you do a video on Trey's tapping for songs like Summoning Redemption?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

It's not planned, but I'll see.

[@JayV426]

Siiiiiick! Hey do we know whats uo with Trey at the moment? Having to cancel shows?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I've read about that yeah, but I have no idea what's up with Trey and the band. But I avoid reading comments from people on socials spreading rumours and just hope the guys are well.

[@dannykrinkle4726]

It's their biggest fan.

[@thomaskrupa2004]

how close should I mic the fan amp? closer to the mesh or to the fan? Thanks!!!

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I'd say as close to the amp as possible. So the fan has to be very close to the speaker, and then the mic is behind the mesh, as close as possible to the blades of the fan. Don't know if it helps ;)

[@thomaskrupa2004]

@ it does! Thanks!

[@L3X3CUTION3R]

The gods are pleased with you - they speak your name in tongues! 🤘🏼 Would still love to see you play the final solo of Brainstorm. I have to see the technique for that tympanic membrane shredding squeal at 2:25.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Brainstorm, my all time favorite MA song!!! Yeah a cover of this song is still planned, but still haven't got time to get back to it.

[@akosbrett2564]

Gap filling contant, thank you! Would like to see videos from the other two micing techniques!🤘 Can you tell on Gateways at which solos does Trey use the Wind Rift technique?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I haven't successfully tried the other techniques unfortunately. From memory, on "At One With Nothing" and "I" there's this technique.

[@ShawnWhite-o3h]

Big Fan here😮

[@twosons5290]

Currently working on a pedal prototype…….

[@joedeathcarnage2396]

Amazing Patrick! I remember Trey was talked about his recording settings back in the early 2000s! You should try the glass bowl on the mic too!

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I've tried the other techniques too, but the way I did it was not conclusive.

[@joedeathcarnage2396]

@patrikbnvn2847 Don't give up on it,one day I wanna do it too,just because I love that sound!

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@joedeathcarnage2396 Yes I find that sound amazing!

[@asdfasdfasdf7900]

Great video! Now it would be nice to see explanation of Xposetron Probe E7A, and the Anti-Vacuum Culture too

[@WhoamI-ll7rk]

Can you do a tutorial on the tapping part after the solo of summoning redemption or I. I can’t figure it out

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I'm considering doing this kind of tutorial video one day

[@mick8381]

Salut patrik! Dis moi serait tu ou je peux trouver un plugin a la manière de morbid Angel sur headrush ?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Hello, non alors je ne sais pas malheureusement, je n'utilise pas headcrush.

[@thomasfarmer1730]

What brand of fan is it?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Brand is Rotel. Really the average supermarket fan. Trey uses a different type of fan though, bigger and square.

[@maximeputigny1135]

Très intéressant, merci !

[@nickguitar656]

what is the setting of the Marshall jcm900? And could you upload a series of videos where you explain the techniques that Trey Azagthoth uses to play?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Settings for the Marshall are gain 10, bass 7, mid 5, treble 4 and presence 6 on channel A. I've not planned to do this kind of videos, but I'll see ;)

[@nickguitar656]

@patrikbnvn2847 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RESPONDING Greetings from Peru 🇵🇪

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@nickguitar656 You're welcome ;)

[@StargazingAxolotl-fz4lg]

The Gas Giant approves!

[@18JR78]

We need an effects pedal that emulates this just as a Leslie Speaker.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Having such pedal would be great for sure!

[@ConradSaratoga]

this is sick, i had no idea

[@ShiningTrapezoid]

Sick

[@lucteuq1872]

Merci pour le tips! Ca veut donc dire doubler le solo? ou une seule prise sur deux ampli?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

C'est une seule prise sur 2 amplis oui👍

[@lucteuq1872]

@@patrikbnvn2847 merci beaucoup.

[@at1with0]

Very nice!! Say did you know I spoiced together your guitar cover of at one with nothing with another person whose name I forget drum cover.. dince youre both playing to the sobg the timing is perfect for lining them up in sync.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Oh no, I didn't know. Would be an idea to redo this cover of at one with nothing one day, this time with solos.

[@at1with0]

@ That’s one of my favorite songs!

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@at1with0 I remember us talking about this song being one of your fav many years ago hehe

[@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip]

What is your approach when you are doing what mimic scalar runs he plays, and do you use/know more conventional 3 note per string scales as well?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

It's basically playing with major and minor scales on the fretboard

[@coolerthancoolestguy9712]

Nice! Will have to try this some time soon. Do you think it'd be possible with a single 4x12 for ease of use? Maybe mic the top and bottom to avoid the fan bleeding?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

It could work, but there's actually another "secret", it's the use of other stereo effects such as stereo delays, and for this you need 2 amps. But if you have 2 heads and a splittable 4x12, it could do the trick.

[@satarello]

Hey Patrick again. while recording solos in your home, are yoy recoring tracks with modulation effects or are you add it after recording. Of course the simple track without any modulation are easier to editing. ..Im wondering how is the same with Mr Trey ? cheers

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Hey, solos are recorded with all effects coming from the amp, so there's no affect added after recording, everything you hear is what the microphones have captured ;)

[@satarello]

@@patrikbnvn2847 thank you so much. I thought that. It is difficulty path to recording solos. So the conclusion is that Trey made the same on previous MA albums. Thank you so much,. I ordered my first MARSHALL combo 1x12 4501.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@satarello Sure, Trey did the same, having effects from the amp. And that's awesome that you have ordered the Marshall 4501. Let me know what you think once you have it ;)

[@satarello]

@@patrikbnvn2847 Yes of course. In the near future Im planing to buy the second unit for "stereo" like you. Of course Ill inform you. PS. Are you have FB profile or I can write to NEAR DEATH CONDITION profile?

[@mick8381]

Bordel mec j en veux des vidéo explicative sur le son du demi dieu du Death métal! Une petit futur vidéo sur les effets de Trey ?? Rules!

[@patrikbnvn2847]

J'ai fait cette vidéo pour expliquer ma chaîne d'effet, c'est pas exactement la même chaîne que Trey mais je m'en suis beaucoup inspiré ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/l16sZZ2Xp72Xnck

[@mick8381]

@@patrikbnvn2847 Merci mec ;)

[@Dreamy_shreds07]

Amazing as always! Do you use any specific pedal?

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I'm also using stereo effects on these solos, Uni-Vibe, stereo delays, and Phase 90

[@Summonredhellspites]

It's like a trill using a barchord?thats what I always called the wind riff.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Not really, it's an effect on the amp, not on the guitar.

[@Eyeofdajjal]

Sounds like something I accidentally programmed on my 1996 T.C. GForce. A bit unnerving though 😂 Beautiful guitar work!

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Oh you can do something similar with the G Force ? Interesting, I'd be curious to hear it,

[@Eyeofdajjal]

@ basically, it’s sort of a Hammond Organ effect with a comb filter on the in/out points. I’ll dig my old setup up from the basement today anyway, since I’ll need it next week, if I can find that or can accidentally program it again, I’ll post my findings 😅

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@Eyeofdajjal TC Electronic makes very interesting devices, pedals and rack mounted effects. Never tried the G Force nor the G Major though. I like homemade effets like Trey's Wind Rift Technique, but in a home studio it's always easier to work with electronic devices and effects. But, with the fan, there's something that I doubt can be reproduced, and it's that subtle high frequency sound done by the sound hitting the fan blades.

[@Eyeofdajjal]

@ absolutely cool with me - I just can’t play 2 speakers live plus haul a fan that gives me no control over tempo. Just a matter of taste and practicability. I’m already reassembling my old rack here, so maybe I can figure ist out 😊

[@jcalzada74]

I always thought it was a flanger involved on those records😂😂😂

[@patrikbnvn2847]

There's actually a phaser as well

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

Fan hum is too loud. Sounds like a drone note from a keyboard or a grounding issue in the guitar. I would move the mic away from the fan to catch less of the blade and motor noise, and turn the amp up so it is still loud enough to be distorted through the fan without the motor being audible but is still captured by the mic on the other side.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

For the purpose of this vid I've tried to keep the takes as natural as possible, but sure, then there's some adjustments to be done. First, in the context of a mix the fan noise can easily be cut. And I've experimented this technique in many ways, and moving the mic from the blades wouldn't work, the effect would be different. But definitely, having the amp louder helps 👍

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

@@patrikbnvn2847 A voice in a fan is a cool effect for sure. HPF or shelving on the fan blade track? I would be worried about losing my lows.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@AAAA-lt9hq Yes that could be an issue. I'd say that for this kind of solos, low shelving can do the trick, or maybe just finding the fan noise frequency and reduce it. But in other context it can be more tricky, and I'd suggest to experiment different things to find what works best.

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

@@patrikbnvn2847 I was thinking a noise gate could do it but depending on where it is it might cut off more guitar than what one might want. In the original the fan motor sounds covered by the vocal.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

@@AAAA-lt9hq I haven't tried a noise gate, but yeah, it might cut off more than what is needed. But that's something to try.

[@mikerauter1859]

or you could take essentially the same concept to the extreme and play every solo through a phaser

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Not exactly the same, there's also a phaser on the solos in this video by the way. But I'd be interested in hearing a demo of it done just by a phaser.

[@doobie8425]

Would hate being the guy behind the panel 😂

[@Sylkis89]

What's that supposed to do besides introducing that annoying low droning buzz fatiguing the right ear?

[@djabthrash]

+1

[@notsure1135]

A ring mod with a wet dry mix will give you the same thing, you just have to tweak it right.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

I used to think so, but I'm not quite sure, because with the fan there's also the ringing and resonance of the sound on the fan blades, not just the vibrato effect. But I'm curious, if you have an example with a ring mod that have achieved the same effect

[@hazardeur]

blasphemer, the real question is: will it also evoke the ancient ones?

[@blakkno666]

Would have been good to hear the sound from the right amp..

[@patrikbnvn2847]

You're absolutely right, thanks for this comment, something that's definitely missing in this vid. You can still check out this video I did : it's the same setup but without the fan, it can give an idea of how the right amp sounds without the fan kzbin.info/www/bejne/l16sZZ2Xp72Xnck

[@sonnylombardozzi2633]

😊

[@DizzyDez613]

When you can’t afford a flanger pedal, so you have to improvise.

[@scamtoons]

You put the microphone with the fan in the back of the cabinet. It's what Ted Nugent does. Homemade rotary speaker

[@gomezaddams9221]

I always thought it was just a wah pedal lmao

[@shred69]

You can’t be serious 😁

[@mark6302]

ah that's fucking sweet haha

[@arikuusela6716]

Leslie for the poor!

[@666Havers]

I was just listening to domination on Spotify then I opened up KZbin and algorithms got me. Haha

[@Akhin]

I'm not sure I get the point of doing this

[@djabthrash]

What about that huge annoying low end hum ? Sounds like my clothes washing machine is finishing up its current cycle...

[@the43rdparallelthrift34]

That's certainly a thing....not saying it's a good thing....

[@MakeTheAdjustment1979]

That’s when they invited their fans into the recording studio

[@Goldilush]

this sounds terrible. lol

[@FreneticZetetic]

This is far from brilliant and honestly I have no idea how or why people think this is innovative. Producers do means-to-an-end shit like this all the time, and even less so now that post-production more or less makes shit like this obsolete. Underwhelming "effect" IMHO.

[@patrikbnvn2847]

Sure, I understand this point of view. I still find Trey’s ideas brilliant though. First because I personally have never heard anything that sounded exactly the same as this Wind Rift Technique, and I really like the fact that with the fan it sounds dirty. Then because I find interesting to try to create this kind of effects physically, and not just electronically, by tinkering with everyday objects. It’s like rotary effects, now they can be done with pedals or studio effects, but the idea of making a speaker rotate was interesting. But it’s just my opinion.

[@akosbrett2564]

Please suggest me other guitarist who use similar weird micing techniques or DIY effects!