More about surplus canteens I forgot about these

In my last video I spoke at length about canteens and the choices I would make today. Many of you pointed out other canteens that I have shown in past videos and that I did not include in the recent video. So to answer the questions of the subscribers I will include those canteens in this video. the type 58 water bottle is a British and I think NATO issue canteen .They are good rugged canteens for Bushcraft /Woodscraft use and will be a good choice. I also speak of the Swedish haversack flask and the French canteen system. I hope this will answer and more questions you may have but if not feel free to comment down below and I will be happy to respond.
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[@aionarkhe5260]

I always thought it'd be cool if someone could make an old school round canteen with a wide mouth that could fit into the arctic canteen pouch with cup.

[@tjfm59]

hi blackie, retired us army here. while still in the service. i added a 2nd us army canteen to my military gear. reason is i hate plain water. so this 2nd canteen set, including stove. was my cook set. while my issued set was my drinking set. near the end of my service i added the 2qt with cover & carry strap to my personal gear, along with a 2nd 1qt canteen set. for a couple of decades that was my standard water carry setup. after watching some of the other videos on you tube i have added a couple of single wall ss water bottles to my truck carry gear, for like you have stated. being able to heat snow. a couple years ago i added a 3liter camelbac & sawyer water filter to my setup. earlier this year, i attended a auction an scored big time. from the auction i picked up a early wwii shelter half set(buttons instead of snaps), the older style poles, wooden tent pegs. me i always used snaps. part of the rest was that era metal canteen set. from watching your 2 videos on canteens i have also learned a couple of things. like the denture cleaner for cleaning the canteens. the nalgene bottles. will have to look for one. an painting my cook cup with bbq heat paint. thank you an the folks watching your videos for the information.

[@gijr2003]

If you hated plain water, what did you use instead or add to your water to flavor it?

[@tjfm59]

@@gijr2003 for years i took sodas along. or drank milk or used the pre-sugared koolaid mixes. now adays i use the sugarless drink mixes.

[@charlesreohr6236]

I use to use just a plastic 2 liter pop bottle in a wool home made bag that had an aluminum cup I bought at the time for $2.50 at a dollar store. It was good enough to do an over night camp. Now I have the Self Reliance canteen kit with a Sawyer filter to go with it. I fill the bottle and screw on the filter and squeeze to get a drink, fill the canteen or cup to cook with. I was a boy scout Scout leader and we went camping at least once a month, 12 mouths a year along with a couple of week long camps for years. I have done a lot of camping and this set up has never let me down. Recently I have purchased a two cup Stanley cook set and a US GI mess kit to add to my kit. Because Being in my late 60s I just do car camping now so I don't have to carry the weight very far.

[@trynsurviven2440]

I like the flask and wish Pathfinder made an updated version of it.

[@metroplexchl]

I feel you, brother. North Texas with 100+ temps and 80-90% humidity....water is everything.

[@Bucky1836]

I carried electrolyte tablets in my deer hunting gear esp if we packed in for base camp 🧐

[@Wildwestwrangler]

Panhandle here, hot but without the humidity

[@vonsprague7913]

'58 pattern canteen comes with a plastic cup and canteen, metal cup and lid and a burner that can be used with twigs, fuel tablets or a Trangia. They are my go to set after 20 years with British Airborne. Good video Blackie.

[@tomritter493]

Trangia too nice I have to look into one the plastic dont burn your lips appealed to me

[@vonsprague7913]

@@tomritter493 yes Tom a great idea. We always boil water to make a brew and warm up dehydrated food, saves on the washing up lol

[@simonh6371]

It did from the mid 90s onwards. Prior to that it was the Osprey bottle and cup - which nested on top of the bottle not vice versa so you had to pull it out to access the water bottle - in a tight fitting canvas pouch which used to shrink when wet, which happened often in Sennybridge, Otterburn, or NW Germany. The BCB Crusader MK1 & 2 equipment which was added to it later (mid 90s) makes it usable. Now in civvy street I use a Dutch Army canteen and steel cup (like the US GI type) which go in a waterproof not-too-tight cordura DPM pouch, and there's room for a Pathfinder stainless lid and a stainless folding twig stove which also can be used with twigs, tablets or Firedragon gel, or a Trangia (fits perfectly). On overnighters I add to that one of my Dutch mess tins - like the British ones but stainless and with rolled edges - and a copy of the old mess tin lid / frying pan which did exist at some time on issue (as it had an NSN) but I never saw anyone with one. Back in those days Airborne and SF used to opt for the British 44 pattern bottle and metal cup as the Osprey setup was gash.

[@blackoracle69]

SEVERAL PEOPLE ASKED ABOUT OTHER CANTEENS AND SETS THAT I HAVE USED IN PAST VIDEOS..SO HERE IS THE ANSWER YO THEIR QUESTIONS THANKS FOR WATCHING

[@Ravensworkshop]

@Blackie could you do a similar video in the the round steel bottles and cups as well as the merits and shortcomings of each type when directly compared ? Thanks and greetings from Germany -Raven

[@thomasmusso1147]

👍. The Swiss Military M84 Canteen Set is another worth considering. Still commonly available and reasonably priced. A Robust 800ml Polymer Plastic Canteen with a 400ml (300ml usable) Aluminium Cup .. a good Swiss Quality Product.

[@oldredcoonhound2182]

The local princess auto store( U.S. version of Tractor supply) had some about 2 years ago. I bought 2, then another one, then they went on sale and I went back and got a Credit for the previous ones I bought as well as picked up a couple more 🙄😅🤦‍♂️

[@pemekd6369]

I use the M84 and it works great, packs easily to backpack's side pocket or haversack

[@simonh6371]

Made by SIG, of SIG Sauer fame.

[@jeffrichards5106]

Never seen the British 58 canteen before. Thanks for the video Blackie. 👍

[@blackoracle69]

No problem 👍

[@blackoracle69]

www.walmart.com/ip/Dragon-Cooking-System-Multicam/596496540

[@jeffrichards5106]

@@blackoracle69 Thanks Blackie 😊

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

This was great... enjoyed it !

[@drunkwoodswyllia4885]

I really enjoy watching your videos!! I wish I would have found you years ago!! Thank you brother!

[@ellsworthcrawford2074]

Thank you for taking your time to share your information and knowledge

[@johnstevenson9429]

Another canteen worth checking out is the usgi artix canteen. I have one and use it in the winter

[@gijr2003]

O ring fixed my 2 Brit 58 canteens leak. If you use a Brit utility pouch you can use a USGI canteen set with another cup on top of canteen. It won't snap on like the 58 style does, looks like a German Bundeswehr set. Got some USGI canteen cups without handles on them from SMG years ago. I put one in my cup for my canteen set giving me 2 cups in one ALICE LC-2 cover.

[@MichaelR58]

Blackie , good options , thanks for sharing , God bless !

[@blackoracle69]

Thanks for watching!

[@roostersoutdooradventures8636]

Another great video Blackie! But i gotta be honest every time you mention the word haversack i get super excited and anxious about receiving one of your black bird haversacks! Im quite sure im not the only one ! Lol

[@Edward2092009]

Super great job.

[@blackoracle69]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@misolgit69]

back in the day when I rode a big bike I used to strap a US GI 2 quart canteen in its cover to the bottom yoke on the forks just under the headlight of course the windflow kept the contents ice cold

[@hiramhaji7813]

Your doing great blackie

[@57WillysCJ]

I have one or two flasks that I carry. The standard US 16 oz fits either in a hip pocket or cargo pocket on the leg. Two of those gives you a quart of water. The best part is when you think you probably wont need water it is a simple carry. Chances are you will drain it and want to refill it. Not to hard from a drinking fountain. If the OD green bothers you, get some spray paint for plastic and color it what you like.

[@OzMan9989]

Love your videos Blackie. I found what’s called a Dragon Cooking system out of the UK which is a multipart system similar to the crusader. I think it’s the newest system. Can’t wait to get it.

[@blackoracle69]

Cool, thanks

[@briandrexler7627]

I wish Abercrombie and Fitch or some other Outfitters company, would bring back the Preston Messkit...awesome kit that marries together a canteen an cup along with a skillet and plate that can come together to make a small oven....All fits together on your hip...

[@blackoracle69]

i have seen that as well it might be a good set if done right with modern materials

[@Bucky1836]

Just looked it up ...damn good idea 😯

[@Wendy-op3bu]

Awesome 😎 thanks Blackie

[@blackoracle69]

No problem 👍

[@oldminer5387]

Thank you for part II Blackie.

[@blackoracle69]

your welcome

[@THENEWWRANGLER]

Boundless Voyage has a canteen set made of titanium on amazon, add a heliconcon tex canteen carry and you have a very awesome canteen set.

[@Jaden48108]

The Swedish flask is very cool. I own one. I use the cup mainly for drinking whiskey in the field or in the backyard if I'm grilling. It has one huge drawback though. The inside of the canteen taints the water giving it a bad taste. For that reason I do not recommend it for field use except as a novelty item- as in drinking whiskey in the back yard with your friends.

[@alexandergutfeldt1144]

That is actually an old style Swiss army canteen. Got mine in basic training 1986, but I believe the design is much older. The newer model with a plastic bottle and aluminum cup was introduced in 84, I was issued one in ~1990.

[@charlesroth986]

The BCB Crusader/Type 58 is available from Amazon last I looked a coupe of months ago, but it ain't cheap. Right up there with the Pathfinder version. After years of looking I finally broke down and bought the Keith/Heavy cover set in titanium. Comes with the cup and lid and is very sturdy and is somewhat lighter than the military or Pathfinder sets, Fits a GI carrier but I prefer to use the "Mother" carrier from Center Line Systems. Have it rigged to carry on a shoulder strap. Expensive yes but worth it. For a secondary canteen/water bottles I go with the Nalgene canteens. Will occasionally use a 3 quart Camelback rig in very dry country or anywhere water availability is doubtful.

[@stevenladrig9592]

I was doing this when I was in the Boy Scouts Blackie and I didn't have no money back then I had to use what I got that was yet so I know what you're talkin about if people want to get you into this it go to cheapest way you can

[@daegannlongstrider1293]

Thank you, Blackie! Have you ever tried replacing the canteen chain with snap swivels? Easy to remove and you have them as part of a fishing kit.

[@KaylynnStrain]

I have a Polish aluminum canteen that has a wool cover and 2 clips for a strap to attach to but I do not have the strap so I would add my own. the cork seal in the cap is in great condition and does not leak. I would love to find a Polish canteen cup

[@MrRourk]

All the UL Hikers are swearing by the Smart Water brand water bottles as the best on trail. Then the fancy Italian Ice Cream Plastic Jars as the best for food rehydration jars. Old Skippy Peanut Butter is in the Number 2 Slot now.

[@monoXcide01]

The last part of the video mentioned sweating puddles. If you're sweating that much then you need to replace electrolytes. Drinking more water will make electrolyte depletion worse! Look for something in the grocery store called Lite Salt. This is salt that has 50% less sodium. The missing sodium is replaced with potassium chloride. This means that Lite Salt has both sodium and potassium, both of which are important electrolytes. Put a tablespoon of Lite Salt in 1 liter of water or to taste. You want it salty enough to taste it but not so salty you can't chug it, but don't chug it. Mix in 1 tablespoon of a carbohydrate source like honey, agave nectar, or real maple syrup. Electrolytes and carbs are good energy and will perk you up. So again: 1 liter of water 1 tablespoon of Lite Salt 1 tablespoon of honey, agave, or maple syrup

[@kenbarrett6466]

I found rove brand 40 oz single wall ss water bottle at a discount store called ollies ,, for 7 bucks .. checked Amazon they was 28 bucks there , added the ozark trails ss cup took another cup and some Dremmel tool and some drilling. I made one of those bottle stoves put it all in a orca water carrier ,, I did buy a pf cup lid later to add with it ,, It does everything the pf bottle cook set does ,, much more budget friendly

[@tomritter493]

Ya my french was extruded mine leaked too .got to watch the cup mine lost the weld on one handle hot hurts lol .the British set had a friend send one if never got here

[@davidcruz8667]

Not two liter... two quart. And they'll come with a canteen cover that fits them, can be worn with ALICE clips on the belt or pack or used with a webbing sling that has clips that attach to D-rings on the canteen cover. I also used to use mine as a pillow when I slept in the field, very comfortable.

[@cal593]

This came at a perfect time. I have a stainless steel canteen, but I've been trying to figure out if it's the best choice for me

[@MrRourk]

What do you mostly do? I mostly day or 2 day hike. So I switched over to the smaller Gatorade Bottles. They tie on to backpack straps easily.

[@williamsisk2897]

I will point out another surplus option, the German 2 piece canteen set. It has a cup with strap attached to it preventing it from being used over a fire, canteen cup and water bottle, all of which is aluminum. A leather strap could be made or purchased allowing it to be attached to your pack straps

[@gijr2003]

German Bundeswehr canteen set. The cup strap should have a snap hook on it to attach to bread bag, etc.

[@krishoogstraat6866]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@jeremytyler7843]

I have the British set with the Crusader cup, but I have yet to use it.

[@stephenarnold5981]

If going for the '58 Pattern Water Bottle go for genuine kit. Will either be marked F&G for older bottles or Osprey for new ones with the Broad WD arrow mark, Date and Nato stock Number. Avoid the smaller, made in China leaky ones, AKA '58 Style or Type

[@scuzzlebutt1714]

check out the german canteen and cup very good set

[@fransbester5932]

I do not know if you have knowledge of the SADF sets. We use a cooking set called dixies where one fits into the other to cook with or eat out it, and a water bottle with cover and it comes with a cup called fire bucked to boil stuff or cook with. go check it out!

[@jonesysself-reliance3705]

Personal question.... if you had to choose a primary gun (longgun) but had to be black powder what would it be (only long gun you can have)

[@billwithers1349]

there's a reason why we carry Koolaid, Tang and powdered Gatorade, folks. A bit of taste sugar and electrolytes (in the gatorade). I can't drink much gatorade without getting nauseous and the trots/cramps. So I use it now and then as I hike, but I prefer the Koolaid.

[@blackoracle69]

tang was always my choice i could drink it hot or cold

[@aubreygmcghee]

Although you can't use the plastic canteen in the fire to melt snow, you could set it close enough to the fire where it wouldn't melt the plastic but the heat would still quickly melt the snow.

[@blackoracle69]

very true i spoke to a guy in british marines who said they had filled canteens with snow and set inside a tank with heater going to melt everyones snow for them

[@mumbles1justin]

After watching this I looked up the collapsible 2qt canteen on amazon and have one coming. I excpect it to stay my pack as a backup water container. Im wondering if the gas mask straw port could be maybe adapted to work with a sawyer squeeze.

[@blackoracle69]

i am sure with enough time and resources anything is possible

[@toneyjohnson8910]

Blackie a good video to go with this would be a surplus cook sets I know up have several. I bought a Russian cup and lid but have not cleaned out the grease out of it. any ideas on getting the grease out.

[@templetonlee1722]

If it's all metal : throw it into the fire and let the grease burn out. Once it's cooled off scrub with warm water and soap, rince . If it is not metal : throw it into the garbage can.

[@blackoracle69]

i would fill with water and boil for a good while them dump and wipe out ..add dawn dishwashing liquid and scrub good..

[@toneyjohnson8910]

@@blackoracle69 Thanks buddy

[@Hoonozit]

Yeah, I own one of the two quart rubber military water carriers, they are nice as long as you carry a metal cup\pot with you as well. What do you think of those M&M shaped canteens, I guess they are shaped to be against your body?

[@marblemarble7113]

I saw some of those the other day, I picked up a plastic 1 liter (I think) canteen

[@thodan467]

For Europe i doubt the price difference between the "plastic" canteens will be worth it to not buy a nalgene. Their flask could also ´ve some use. I personally put a bottle carrier on a haversack for a short hike

[@jacksonteller1337]

The capacity of the Swedish and Swiss canteens are due to the abundance of clean drinking water. They are neutral countries that have both very clean streams and a lot of snow and glaciers.

[@Bucky1836]

Blackie....i have never trusted stream water, we always packed water in with us and conserve what we brought,....could you do a water vid series cause getting sick off water way out in bush scares me 😨

[@asmith7876]

They make water filters that can take water from nearly any source and make it potable. Good stuff costs money but NOT having bloody diarrhea is priceless! At 8.33 pounds per gallon it simply isn't possible in some places to pack that in.

[@dontfearthereaper9528]

I have a feeling a couple of poor birds got murdered around 10:45😂

[@blackoracle69]

we had a short talk lol

[@dontfearthereaper9528]

@@blackoracle69 hahahaaaaa, it was a great video Blackie. You always bring something new to the table of knowledge. Thank you

[@TheJames762]

I have a french canteen too. It leaked. I sanded . It still leaked. I replaced seal 2-3 ,times. Still leaked. I finally got it to quit, by using a thicker, than the seal, cork. Just an fyi

[@cloudraker100]

In Canada army surplus is usually more expensive and not as nice as gear I can pick up at discount shops like Walmart etc.

[@blackoracle69]

i knew a guy once a few yrs ago who took vacation into canada he brought a bunch of army surplus field kit with him and traded a guy for canadian mre's

[@Wendy-op3bu]

@@blackoracle69 :+)/. U the Boss

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

Canada doesn't seem to want it's citizens to have military surplus. I used to get mail order catalogs for surplus, and half the items were "restricted in Canada"...smh

[@johnr.1749]

If you are in Montreal. I can tell you where to go. You will not find the address on the web.

[@davegoodridge8352]

O-ring from the hardware store will fix the leak

[@MrRourk]

Mil style canteen Soviet Spestnaz Canteen. British Crusader Swiss Flask with Cup

[@asmith7876]

I've heard that the US Military no longer issues canteens and especially the one with the cup. You get a Camelbak, that's it. I'd say buy this stuff while you can, as they get scarce the price goes up. I've got several of the canteen/cup types and one of those 2 quart like you showed last.

[@davidcruz8667]

Wrong, you still get canteens. Camelbaks are an added item useful in some places.

[@asmith7876]

@@davidcruz8667 Thanks, I’m glad to hear it. The Camelbak wasn’t invented yet when I was in. Love my canteen and cup!

[@davidcruz8667]

@@asmith7876 yep. I was issued canteens, a few units that went to Afghanistan and Iraqi Freedom came back with earlier versions of Camelbaks. I now have regular plastic canteens, a two-quart canteen, a water filtration canteen and a very nice high-capacity Camelbak with removable mouth valve, storage pouches, MOLLE straps and padded Fastex buckled shoulder straps. That's a total of over two gallons of water.

[@asmith7876]

@@davidcruz8667 And an extra 17 pounds of water! Glad I didn’t have to carry mine, had a jerry can on an APC. Glad you made it back. I was in so long ago I didn’t get recalled for the 1st Gulf War!

[@davidcruz8667]

@@asmith7876 thank you. Yep, heavy, but that's what I have now, not back then. Only one gallon with my two canteens and a two-quart. Besides you have to figure the weight from ammo and the rest of my gear. I did Desert Shield/Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom, I was in from 1986 to 2010. I miss my M16A2, but I'm now the proud owner of a beautiful accurized M1A. If you were in in the sixties, you may have carried an M14 or M16/M16A1.

[@patricegarnierlobo25111967]

bcb crusader cup aluminium,or inox or titane more rare

[@lewisward4359]

Where are the source of the French and Swedish canteen with the cork? Never saw them before.

[@blackoracle69]

check sportsmans guide and ebay

[@Wendy-op3bu]

I save wine bottle corks. Also for Bobbers

[@torsten4757]

www.varusteleka.com/en/product/french-m47-canteen-with-cup-and-pouch-surplus-new/65269

[@edwincathey5260]

Where can I get a Swiss canteen and cup?

[@torsten4757]

Try at VARUSTELEKA

[@blackoracle69]

i have seen them for sale on sportmans guide

[@buckshot4428]

Are you sure Walmart sells the type 58? I've never seen them in the states.

[@blackoracle69]

i have seen the crusader cook set on the website before..but having said that i just checked and they got lot of canteen sets but that one must be out

[@buckshot4428]

@@blackoracle69 I have seen a lot of things on WM's website that I know they don't carry. They are trying to be Amazon, but I think they should stay with what they know. I bought a BCB Crusader cook stand only on ebay from the UK. Shipping was like $17.

[@robertdenson488]

blackie how old are you?

[@blackoracle69]

thats a odd question...lol pushing 60

[@joshuacaviness9402]

the pathfinder set would be my last choice. everything he sells is over priced. I built an entire set for 1/4 of the price of his newer fancy titanium set. past that the set you did not mention that is cheaper and more rugged is a nalgene bottle, not the oasis canteen, and a cup and bottle carrier. my entire set cost me less than $20 for 32 ounce capacity with a 20 ounce cup and lid and that all included a molle carrier to haul it all. in the end though, i use a 1.5 liter water bladder with a titanium cook set, and a 1 liter Nalgene oasis canteen. It is all no bigger than a fanny pack and i can operate in water rich or poor environments.

[@deansch6089]

Good luck boiling water in that nalgene.

[@cloudraker100]

@@deansch6089I've used Nalgene for over 30 years. Never needed to boil water in my canteen. IMO, boiling water in a canteen is an overrated gimmick to sell gear. Bring along a Billy can or cup and you're covered, just as Mr Canterbury did in his early vids.