More Behringer Pro-800 Patches with no FX

The first 10:40 you've heard with reverb... the rest are extra.
I've been asked for a raw version without the reverb. So here it is. There's not much difference tbh - but some might sound a bit punchier. I didn't think the reverb was overpowering - just a hint, but some folks like it completely naked! Next time I'll do both :)
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[@stoatystoat174]

Nice, It's nice to hear it with and without reverb when you are trying to decide if you are going to buy it 😃👍

[@MadelnMachines]

It's great to hear some very useful patches for modern music + Toto

[@GNeuman]

Some very nice patches there indeed

[@Michael-mg7te]

Love it

[@lukeskywalker2656]

THX 4streaming 🤩

[@csilt]

Raw demos are much more informative and very much preferred by me. Side note, why you got to hate on brass? 😀

[@Sonikbytes]

Striking the perfect balance between the reverb/FX vs dry is always an issue resulting in endless tweaking. While dry sound has more rawness and punch it is not how it is used especially with EDM sounds to sit well within a track context. Synths are just meant to be used with some FX.

[@SomeOne-pd6vm]

a synth without reverb often sounds kinda bad in a full mix because it's pretty much the only instrument in existence that won't have natural reverb to it, and that's something we're not used to hearing. every other instrument exists in a real world space which will naturally echo and reverberate, so it only makes sense to at least add a bit of reverb to a synthesizer :)

[@Sonikbytes]

@@SomeOne-pd6vm Good point! I could listen to nice drone pad with long lush reverb for a long time for example, I doubt I could do the same only dry. It's just tiering on the ears

[@christianthompson1473]

SOME synths are meant to use fx. Not the pro 800....😯

[@Sonikbytes]

@@christianthompson1473 Pro-800 benefits greatly with a multi-FX as this is a great pad machine but it can be used with its raw osc sound alone when needed. Even the infamous synth guru Jexus (Olo Garb) pointed that out in his latest reviews and I agree regarding FX on this synth.

[@christianthompson1473]

@@Sonikbytes sacrilege

[@michaelpierce3264]

make it sound!

[@tylergates4075]

Any way to see the patch sheet/info for B-03 at 0:20?

[@lukeskywalker2656]

5:36 B-12 = ice piano, pad, harp

[@wrmusic8736]

Personally I never understood the desire to add effects to a pure synth (as in not workstation/groovebox) or drench everything in reverb. Pro 800 has an amazing tone and careless application of effects tends to ruin it.

[@XanderEwald]

Great job, lots of classic sounds in there! Do you think a Prophet-5 would get me in the same sonic territory?

[@starskysounds]

Yes. They’re not that far apart. The biggest difference for me is the envelopes. I might do a side by side with the prophet 5 at some point.

[@legitt6093]

​@@starskysoundsI was thinking of buying a P800, as it has offers some really nice tones for the price. However, I have a REV2 already, and I'm not entirely sure if it's worth getting it (maybe I'll have to try replicating a few of your great patches to find out :))).

[@StarskyCarr]

⁠@@legitt6093I love the Rev2 it’s a great synth. I’d say you wouldn’t be gaining much tbh. This may have a more raw tone. But there’s not that much in it.

[@TooSlowTube]

@@legitt6093 The one big thing for me with the Pro-800 is that I can detune the two oscillators very subtly, which I can't on the Rev2, because it only does it in very course steps, and since the Rev2 oscs have rock solid tuning stability, there's really just an LFO type effect when I do that. For me, there's no useful setting for detune on the Rev2 - a setting of 1 is too much. I really do think that spoils it, as an analog synth. The Pro-800 tuning is more unstable and alive. The big advantage of the Rev2, for me, is the 2 pole filter option, which the Pro-800 lacks. I like the fact that Starsky is doing demos without external effects, because a good reverb or chorus can mask a fairly dull sounding synth, so it can be misleading to someone who's looking to buy one. Interestingly, to me, his demos of the Pro-800 with reverb add some of the sparkle that the 4 pole filter lacks. I bought the Pro-800 knowing that it's 4 pole only, but I'm not really a fan of 4 pole only synths. I may look into following it up with the Mopho or Tetra... or MI Shruthi, to add more filter options.

[@MadelnMachines]

@@starskysounds What's the envelope difference now the 800 got the envelope update?

[@christianthompson1473]

No reverb!!! Fantastic. I thing any fx put on the pro 800 should be illegal. Don’t smudge up that sound or else.😁

[@user-zi4og6sd9u]

I'm hearing the same sounds in all videos worldwide. Can someone replicate retrosound sci prophet 600 video sounds? Is it possible that no one can create pads with resonance? It seems as if there's a conspiracy to avoid using resonance.

[@starskysounds]

Turn the resonance up on a pad 🤷‍♂️😂

[@anthonyalexander7246]

Cool synth, $300, cheap and great sounding. Same with model d. Organic. I tried to like the polybrute in the same way but its missing some frequencies in the low mids. And lows, weak bass equals weak synth, a sound effects synth.

[@mamulaals7385]

What is shown off here? What are patches? Sounds good.

[@starskysounds]

These are the patches I created for my own P800.

[@drdoom2020]

Any idea if theses will work on an gligli Prophet600 ?

[@starskysounds]

No they won’t sorry.

[@RoofLight00]

I wouldn’t worry, I have a modded 600 with the gigli and it sounds different to this. They’re quite unlike each other. Enjoy your 600. Unique machines.

[@drdoom2020]

@@starskysounds I was mainly considering this as a patch design/storage device

[@antoniolausinrabelo6142]

Yo compre este sinte y lo devolvi a thomann no sonaba asi nibde coña, aqui hay reverb y chorus

[@starskysounds]

These are all completely raw - NO reverb or chorus. The other video has a small amount of reverb and I took it off specifically for this reason.

[@antoniolausinrabelo6142]

@@starskysounds im sorry for my english, i purchase this synth 2 months ago and return to thomann, the knobs dont work correctly and sound tiny, i one more chance to behringer and this week coming a wasp synth, but the pro800 dont sound good for me, but with the pass of time and new firmware i dont know

[@unclemick-synths]

Yep, the eternal wet/dry issue. I don't think you overdid the reverb but some of these I would definitely use dry.

[@dankeplace]

that's what she said.

[@starskysounds]

It’s an odd one tbh. All the professional patch bank creators cover their stuff in reverb in the demos. It makes the sound big and amazing, useful for tracks.. will help with your productions, you’ll sound like a pro etc. that’s why all the ads you’ll see on Facebook sound like finished tracks. This is because they sell more as people can hear what the patch will sound like in a mix and don’t have to try to imagine how they would use it or produce a track from it .. or simply hope they can use it sounding better than the dry version. They can instantly hear what they can do with it. They do this to sell more… it makes sense to them and to most buyers. If I then post my stuff dry they basically sound less impressive to most people. Scroll on… Even playing the dry versions as well is a risk … which is why the pros don’t do it. It’s hard not to shoot yourself in the foot while trying to cover all the bases.

[@dankeplace]

@@starskysounds there is nothing wrong with the P800, but it lacks fx and that's a downside for me. I like my synths with stereo out so I can hear where it sits in the mix without having to do a ton of post work. But this is because I do live sets and need to know what I am printing before I do. I don't really compose so this means I have to rely on an external pedal, and this can take the wind out of my sails when it comes to using my H9s or CDR70s. I prefer to switch on my gear, get something going then press record.

[@unclemick-synths]

@@starskysounds yep, maybe best to stick with wet - you'll never please everyone and the only people you have to please are the ones who actually buy patch bundles! 😀

[@unclemick-synths]

@@dankeplace you'll be giving the "you gotta record dry" folks a heart attack! 😂

[@patriciaoudart1508]

Behriinger presets are not at the level of this instrument abilities. I should say the same for my Deepmind 12. I rewritten All. A wider keyboard with sensitivity and polyphonic after touch is also needed to explore sounds in a musical mind. What if the UB Xa will be tested on a sequencer or a tiny keyboard... This don't make sense. Those things are made for Artists, not for turning pots and rave parties. Certainly Behringer will modify it's optics about that synthesis remakes are not for basic noise makers, but for Musicians, with not lot money, wich is conjuncture actually. Thanks to them, we know they try to do the best.

[@galifettetv1238]

Deepmind presets mainly demo the plethoric Fx section. BTW the deepmind lacks a complete OSC2 (pw only) and a better filter.

[@PC0067]

Budget ou est tu?? 😂

[@anonymous_friend]

I bet sequential had a meeting where they all just cried, and then went back to work.

[@deyoungstar]

I bet a little bus took you to and from school.

[@anonymous_friend]

@@deyoungstar Did you just get out of the meeting?

[@deyoungstar]

Are you a Victoria’s Secret model?

[@deyoungstar]

Are your lips moving when you read this?

[@anonymous_friend]

@@deyoungstar I might be your dad.

[@discomyass]

yes! without the stupid fx!!!

[@MrThecarrott]

It sounds amazing!!!! Well no it doesn't

[@user-io6xo9rx2p]

It's strange how, in Canada's largest city, none of these new Behringer synths are actually available. It makes one wonder if these are just limited runs of products, going mostly to social influencers to create demand for a supply that's intentionally shorted. But the best synth is one that actually exists in people's hands...so don't believe the hype.

[@hansneervoort6167]

They are freely available in Europe

[@danthreepwood2760]

I guess you really get what you pay for; not much.