Behringer K-2: Unboxing and first impressions - build quality, sound and form factor

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Starsky Carr

Starsky Carr

Күн бұрын

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@fjfrancois
@fjfrancois 5 жыл бұрын
3:20 Oscillators 6:27 Filters 8:56 Filter 1 Noise 9:52 Filter1 vs Filter 2 12:13 Envelopes 13:23 Patching a Sound (S&H) 14:43 External Signal Processor 15:30 LFOs/Modulation 18:00 Conclusion 19:40 Oscillators (geek mode) :)
@johnhurd3257
@johnhurd3257 9 ай бұрын
What about the mod wheel on the midi controller??
@tonyg2554
@tonyg2554 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing little synth.
@glyn5385
@glyn5385 5 жыл бұрын
the resonance on that K-2 is sooooo good, great video as always Starsky laa
@niknayme3754
@niknayme3754 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like another good quality analogue repro from Behringer. You have to give 'em credit for attention to detail, it sounds great.
@nogoogleplus
@nogoogleplus 5 жыл бұрын
I love that behringer is doing this with all the classics!
@TH3_FURY
@TH3_FURY 5 жыл бұрын
Terry Jones in the "Life of Brian" movie at 11:22 - "He's a naughty boy...now go away !!!" Ha ha ha ...Monty Pythons are phenomenal ! Great demo as usual !
@TomislavRupic
@TomislavRupic 5 жыл бұрын
Just received mine yesterday, great fun, awesome sound. Its now my 3rd Behringer synth, also have Neutron and Model D and I love how different and usable they all are.
@roynaidoo9601
@roynaidoo9601 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Neutron, just how different is the K2?
@TomislavRupic
@TomislavRupic 5 жыл бұрын
Roy Naidoo a lot different, maybe not when it comes to oscilators (k2 ring is awesome) but filters are totaly different. I would say neutron is a more versetile synth, it even has overdrive and delay, but K2 has those dual filters that really give it different flavor.
@roynaidoo9601
@roynaidoo9601 5 жыл бұрын
@@TomislavRupic thanks for the info - I suppose both sets of oscillators are 3340s so the filters will be the difference
@pauls-audiolabor
@pauls-audiolabor 5 жыл бұрын
@@roynaidoo9601 the MS20 filter alone is a lot different :)
@almightyEsquilax
@almightyEsquilax 5 жыл бұрын
@@roynaidoo9601 The MS20 doesn't use 3340s: remork.blogspot.com/2011/11/korg-ms-20-modsschematics.html?m=1
@HotStrange
@HotStrange 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao at using Korgs midi controller to control a clone of their synth 😅 great video! It sounds good. Would’ve loved if Behringer added in an SQ-1 type sequencer.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
😉
@pauls-audiolabor
@pauls-audiolabor 5 жыл бұрын
I hope Behringer will do a proper SQ10 clone instead :)
@verc7264
@verc7264 5 жыл бұрын
respect the synth code. get yo own ass an SQ-1 for like $100
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 5 жыл бұрын
The MS 20 was my first synth 40 years ago. I lent it to somebody several years ago and never got it back I can't wait to get hold of one of these to add to my synth collection. I may even get 2 as I always wanted an MS50 to increase sound possibilities. It will fit in well with my Neutron and Model D. Plus Minilogue and Ultranova. The S&H isn't just cool, it is frigid. That's my favourite option on this synth.
@jasont.9559
@jasont.9559 5 жыл бұрын
Shipping and handling?
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasont.9559 At least you didn''t say Sodomy and Hedonism. ;-))
@benjwgarner
@benjwgarner 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasont.9559 Sample & Hold
@therealtony2009
@therealtony2009 Жыл бұрын
find the guy and steal the ms20 back. that is a legendary synth
@Sunstatemusic
@Sunstatemusic 5 жыл бұрын
Behringer decided to recreate all vintage stuff)) Waiting for Roland Jupiter-8)
@Ori0n1975
@Ori0n1975 3 жыл бұрын
Or Linn Drum.
@UntrueSounds
@UntrueSounds 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to ruin your 440 likes but I had to :D thanks a lot for this in depth video, now I have to decide between this and the Neutron
@devinbelangermusic
@devinbelangermusic 5 жыл бұрын
I can't chime in on this but I love my Neutron. I've used it on virtually every release since I got it. The gritty basses it can do are out of this world but it's also surprisingly great for pretty stuff as well!
@UntrueSounds
@UntrueSounds 5 жыл бұрын
@@devinbelangermusic according to the videos i saw, Neutron seems to be more versatile, right? And for my first hw synth i'd love that
@devinbelangermusic
@devinbelangermusic 5 жыл бұрын
@@UntrueSounds it's definitely a lot more versatile than I expected when I bought it. It's a great synth you can't go wrong
@UntrueSounds
@UntrueSounds 5 жыл бұрын
@@devinbelangermusic thanks a lot man!
@Zinfidel1
@Zinfidel1 5 жыл бұрын
Just want to chime in... if it's the same type of case as the model d, neutron, and the 104 eurorack case (it most certainly is) the side panels are wood, not plastic. You can take them off and look in the holes, feel the weight, smack them together to find out. I'm pretty sure it's the same wood used in the Deepmind synths too.
@alan933
@alan933 4 жыл бұрын
Nice demo but I wish to God you had put the angle better so we could read the names on the knobs.
@markolijus
@markolijus 5 жыл бұрын
Good, cant wait for comparison video!
@elissitdesign
@elissitdesign 5 жыл бұрын
K2 for bass and mid-synth, neutron for arps, effects and blips and the boog for leads and synth tops! Can’t wait for mine to arrive.
@moonce
@moonce 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha, the boog gotta be the Behringer model D, right? Nice word to refer to it. I'm gonna use it (since I own one). Thanx ;)
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 5 жыл бұрын
MS20 was my first synth. I lent it to someone and never got it back so I will be buying one of these soon.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Ouch...
@cory5495
@cory5495 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how you can't really trust many people to have enough morals not to steal your stuff. God always brings karma back around though.
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 5 жыл бұрын
@@cory5495 He didn't steal it. I moved about a bit because of work and lost contact with him. He also had my Korg Delta.
@cory5495
@cory5495 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamgeorgefraser so he stole it lol and he stole your Korg Delta, and you're just like "oh he moves around". Yeah I would be moving around too if I was conning people out of stuff they spent their hard earned money on. He could have easily looked you up and tried to call you/email you. That's what I would do. That dude wasn't your friend.
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 5 жыл бұрын
@@cory5495 I was moving around, living on boats, which meant that I didn't have much use for them at the time. One job led to me being absent for several years and I lost touch with him. It was my fault and I accept that. I will still be buying a K2.
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 5 жыл бұрын
What are you using to generate the plots during the filters section?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
It’s Logic’s EQ
@LeonTodd
@LeonTodd 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr cheers! Loving these vids
@meneerjansen00
@meneerjansen00 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do some more experiments w/ the external in? The unique feature from the MS-20 was that you could play or trigger it w/ almost anything: another synth, a guitar etc. Anything w/ an audio signal could play this synth. Could you try to trigger the filter and envelope generator 2 w/ external gear (i.e. somewhat like a wah-wah pedal, which is nothing but a filter)?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
I might add this to the comparison I've got planned. It's always a bit hit on mis on the MS20 - so wouldn't want folks to think it was any synth in particular doing it badly.
@sircliff323
@sircliff323 5 жыл бұрын
always think I need other monos before the ms20 but the filter gets me every time.
@EnochDark
@EnochDark 5 жыл бұрын
some people have made just the filter available
@SanplerVarondaro
@SanplerVarondaro 2 жыл бұрын
wow estoy por comprarme uno K2 soy fan del MS20 y parece ser un excelente clon MUY BUEN VIDEO COLEGA SALUDOS...
@MrMarcLaflamme
@MrMarcLaflamme 5 жыл бұрын
This box sounds SOOOOOooo good!
@TooSlowTube
@TooSlowTube 5 жыл бұрын
@19:52 Filter 2 is inverted, compared to Filter 1 - you can see it in the slope of the saw tooth.
@TimeScribe
@TimeScribe 5 жыл бұрын
Would you patch between the K-2 and any Eurorack module to show if the patchbay is compatible? I realize the pitch is using a different standard but what about the other functions? Thanks.
@eternalvoid2678
@eternalvoid2678 5 жыл бұрын
It's s-trig, so you'll have to invert any gates. The voltage ranges of the modulation are also not the eurorack standard, so you'd need some scaling. Other than that it's 3U, there's nothing "eurorack" about this thing.
@TimeScribe
@TimeScribe 5 жыл бұрын
Eternal Void Thanks for explaining. Why would you need to scale? Couldn't you just input the cv and let the difference between the standards act as a sort of random? If you compared the a sine lfo from both synths is it just the signal strength that is different or would the shapes of the sine wave be affected by the different standards?
@0Fdigital
@0Fdigital 5 жыл бұрын
​@@TimeScribe You'd need to attenuate, because it'd clip otherwise. A 10v peak-to-peak sine wave into the 5v p-p inputs would make it almost a square wave. It's a shame Behringer didn't make a slight adjustment so it could be properly eurorack compatible, but I guess that's what the Neutron is for, maybe?
@eternalvoid2678
@eternalvoid2678 5 жыл бұрын
​@@TimeScribe The other way around is also a problem, as the triangle lfo is -2.5 to 2.5 V, and the square 0 to 5 V, so if you use that as modulation for eurorack stuff, you wouldn't get the full range. The external signal in is also 3Vpp max, meaning that a eurorack level signal would clip massively. I wouldn't be surprised if the VCA and sample and hold (which is track and hold btw) would also clip when using eurorack level signals. The only thing eurorack compatible is panel. I really don't understand how they justify marketing this as a eurorack synth. It really isn't.
@TimeScribe
@TimeScribe 5 жыл бұрын
This information is super helpful. I couldn't get my head around how the voltage would get interpreted across the machines.
@billtrieshmann5979
@billtrieshmann5979 Жыл бұрын
That "ring" oscillator is super unique sounding
@DennisBastian
@DennisBastian 3 жыл бұрын
Right around 11:30 I was thinking 'enough with the talking.. play me some Daft Punk' and there you go lol
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 жыл бұрын
Haha... heck this one out where I get it pretty much spot on using the Korg. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZvdh2eFf7R2iKc
@DennisBastian
@DennisBastian 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr NIce haha :D Such a classic sound
@ThePickledOnions
@ThePickledOnions 3 жыл бұрын
the saint of synths, thanks
@martinleja4823
@martinleja4823 5 жыл бұрын
Cool, so the sustain on my MS20 isn't actually broken in that case. So is this thing V/Oct if eurorack compatible?
@OttovanZanten
@OttovanZanten 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, Hz/V or whatever the MS-20 normally uses. Bit of a shame, but I bet they would have to make a lot of changes, which might have added to the price.
@SpaceAlienJesus
@SpaceAlienJesus 3 ай бұрын
I'm new to synths and i was wanting to know can i hook my mininova up for the key use ? Or what keys would i need ? Thank you ever so much in advance.
@AbdulHamid-uo2ok
@AbdulHamid-uo2ok 4 жыл бұрын
After so long, I think I'll make this the first synth I purchase. It seems to have so much versatility. :D
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this to a beginner who wants to learn about synthesis and as something with growth potential? Like the Model D but I'm seriously put off by the oscillators going out of tune. I kind of like the Pro-1 but this seems to have more potential and I like the Neutron but I'm not sure whether this might be better...?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 жыл бұрын
For a beginner I’d definitely go with the Pro-1. It’s got all the basic functions well laid out and then when you want to go deeper the mod section can open all sorts of fun. I’d say you would graduate from the pro-1 to a MS20 in programming terms at least.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Thanks so much. I will definitely take that on board. I have limited experience with a Roland Juno 6 but the layout never made a lot of sense to me. Watching you working the Pro-1 and a lot of the others, I’m picking things up pretty quickly. Initially, the position of the Modulation section threw me because it’s out of sequence compared with say, the K-2 or MS-10. Still you explain it well and I went back over a few bits I didn’t quite understand. Thanks again.
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 3 жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman225 Pro-1, Model D, CAT, or even the Neutron is easier to learn than the K-2 😅
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
@@HazeAnderson Yeah, well I took his advice and got a Pro-1. It’s pretty good really but I’m still working out what some of the bits do and when to use them. I’m a very long way from, you know, Kieth Emerson being able to imagine a sound and knowing how to achieve it. I may never get there. The “workflow” is different from what it was on my sister’s Juno 6 and TBH, I probably understand the Model D workflow better. But the sounds this thing makes are amazing and the ability to use more than one wave concurrently out of one or both oscillators is pretty impressive.
@maschinenraum14
@maschinenraum14 5 жыл бұрын
Did you/anyone notice an increased amount of static noise when using filter 1 compared to filter 2? I realized within the first hour that the noise level is so distinct - wondering if it is just my unit?
@guntheriscariot3064
@guntheriscariot3064 5 жыл бұрын
This is an issue with the original ms20 and the reissue/mini as well. That's a proof of how the k2 is faithful to the original circuitry...
@maschinenraum14
@maschinenraum14 5 жыл бұрын
gunther iscariot thanks a lot! :)
@dat_chip
@dat_chip 5 жыл бұрын
So, Filter 1 has that noise, but does it has as much noise as Korg's MINI? Because I found that quite overwelming. And youtube's lossy audio tends to filter away the highest frequencies of the white noise a bit.
@mannygrossman
@mannygrossman Жыл бұрын
Just got mine today. Thought Filter 1 was broken until I found this video. So noisy! I wonder what the point of emulating this noise was, and also how do I get rid of it. Great vid. Thanks!
@seancharles8461
@seancharles8461 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great and informative review. So are you keeping both the K2 and the MS20-mini?
@phillystax
@phillystax 5 жыл бұрын
I'd guess that the ribbon cable is for installing the K-2 into a Eurorack rack and power supply like they've done with the Neutron and Model D.
@recursiveidentity
@recursiveidentity 2 жыл бұрын
So what is that ribbon/printer cable for? No mention of it in the manual.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
its a euro rack power cable.. you can put this into a euro rack case - in which case you need to power it with that.
@Vict0ry_Cs
@Vict0ry_Cs 5 жыл бұрын
thank you, i appreciate it
@saltlake71
@saltlake71 5 ай бұрын
Pls update with K-2 MK2 new features
@markh2351
@markh2351 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Just purchased this synth, powered up, plugged headphones in, no sound output? Apologies if i'm missing something obvious, but I've never had an analogue synth make no sound at all, could someone advise please? Thank you.
@petrpazyna
@petrpazyna Жыл бұрын
u need a midi controller. but im sure u already know it
@78fenderPbass
@78fenderPbass 5 жыл бұрын
Fender and Gibson bank on re-issues of vintage guitars that everyone craves but few can afford and no ones thinks anything of it. Synth companies in general refuses to give customers what they have been asking for so Behringer is more than happy to provide classic remakes and in most cases with a few improvements. The RD-8 is a great example!
@PositiveActionMan
@PositiveActionMan 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have mine on order. First non computer kit so wondering the best way to use my existing USB keyboard with this? Are there USB to midi cables I need to get? Using akai mpk 2
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
It has a USB MIDI connector (although I’m using the 5 pin for convenience). So just a standard USB cable should suffice.
@spacekid5609
@spacekid5609 3 жыл бұрын
Do the LOW CUT FREQ and HIGH CUT FREQ knobs are looser than the rest and feels less smooth on the touch? I returned one for that reason and the replacement K-2 also has the same knobs
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve not got it any more (as I’ve the Korg) but I don’t recall thinking that. I wonder if they’re different to the others as they’ll get more abuse?
@spacekid5609
@spacekid5609 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarrThanks for the response. That's what the store representative told me but I never experienced it with my other gear. Great content by the way! Keep it up :)
@KNHSynths
@KNHSynths 5 жыл бұрын
I've got mine too, here is a little demo song made with the K-2, if you have 3 minutes... it's here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGfGkn99mcZlrqM The only K-2 "problem" is that it is using the legacy Hz/V system not the Eurorack standard but fortunately there is a standad Midi input and and USB Midi port. And if you're using an analog sequencer like doepfer Dark Time or Doepfer A155 you can pitch it correctly. But you can't use a Eurorack quantizer of course.
@wackenthaljef
@wackenthaljef 5 жыл бұрын
A big thanks 4 this unb. !
@imarpushlo
@imarpushlo 4 жыл бұрын
set K2 up with analog keys cv hzt/ and trig, doesn't work, tone keeps drifting and sustaining, also via midi does the same thing, any thoughts, thank you
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 4 жыл бұрын
No idea sorry, except the MS20 doesn’t use the same volts per octave as most things. It uses a different scale.
@imarpushlo
@imarpushlo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply, analog keys has hzt/v but doens't work properly with K2
@AdamsBrew78
@AdamsBrew78 5 жыл бұрын
Does it have midi CC control of all perimeters? also, if so - anyone know if its possible to use CC to save snapshots of patches on your computer? (obviously those that don’t use alt patch cable routings)
@AdamsBrew78
@AdamsBrew78 5 жыл бұрын
@@aceofdub That makes sense and I believe you, but it wasn’t completely obvious to me at the time as I’m just learning about them, and just the weekend watched an early preview video where a Behringer spokesperson described CC modulation of perimeters for one of their analog clones. I’ve watched so many videos about behringer synths and drum machines lately that I can’t remember which ;) I’m sure he was likely mistaken but it’s a certainty it was brought up, as other youtubers took notice, posting the exact timestamp it was mentioned.
@AdamsBrew78
@AdamsBrew78 5 жыл бұрын
@@aceofdub Just solved my little mystery here. The MS-101 was the one wrongly announced by a Behringer rep to have full CC modulation .. commenters on the massive 101 gearslutz thread discussed Behringer’s misstep on that announcement video. I’m just a late comer, learning all this for the first time now :) www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1214280-behringer-ms-101-analogue-synthesizer-26.html Anyway, thanks for your earlier correction.
@streampunksheep
@streampunksheep 5 жыл бұрын
How did you make the Oscilloscope?
@peterjohnson3118
@peterjohnson3118 3 жыл бұрын
hi what scope are you using for the waveforms ?
@GlobeBuster5150
@GlobeBuster5150 5 жыл бұрын
Great video👍🏻 was just wondering how you connected that microkey to the synth?
@re5etuk
@re5etuk 5 жыл бұрын
Probably Usb to midi box (cost around £50) in to midi in on k2
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
USB MIDI to my Mac - and using the MIDIpatchbay app to patch to a MOTU MIDIexpress - with a 5 pin cable out to the K2. So basically going via a computer. It can be used via Bluetooth, but takes batteries which can run out while I’m filming!
@kimdiez2681
@kimdiez2681 8 ай бұрын
@@re5etuk 4 years later but simple...MIDI out to MIDI in.
@freeform144
@freeform144 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again. Mine is now in the mail. >_
@nifela
@nifela 5 жыл бұрын
6:55 - is there stepping in the filter control?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
No that's just the filter picking out various harmonics
@nifela
@nifela 5 жыл бұрын
But there's a ratcheting sound to it
@thisjustin77
@thisjustin77 5 жыл бұрын
he just stated there wasnt lol
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 5 жыл бұрын
@@nifela 100 % not. If it were a digital preset synth then maybe yes, there is a chance you would hear digital stepping.
@nifela
@nifela 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, I think what gave me the impression are the harmonics, it's smoother and clearer around 8 minutes. My fault! :)
@WilyEPeyote
@WilyEPeyote 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds fine but what a daft place to put the MIDI input socket.
@mr.irrelevant3588
@mr.irrelevant3588 5 жыл бұрын
there is one on the back also.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
The USB socket is at the back for MIdI as well - I used the 5 pin at the front for convenience. I use the USB in a forthcoming comparison video.
@WilyEPeyote
@WilyEPeyote 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr I've no use for USB but a proper MIDI socket on the back sounds good. CHeers.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
@@WilyEPeyote The MIDI on the back is only a through - the only MIDI in is the one on the front.
@WilyEPeyote
@WilyEPeyote 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr So right next to the cutoff knob? Duh!
@kvvnng
@kvvnng 2 жыл бұрын
What do you use to visualize the waveforms?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
Meldaproductions freeware
@housebandthexenos2569
@housebandthexenos2569 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is as noisy as the Korg MS20 Mini. I had the Korg and it was unusable for any sounds with the filter mostly closed. I ended up selling it
@pauldi7268
@pauldi7268 5 жыл бұрын
They really should have made the CV voltsper octave
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 5 жыл бұрын
Would have been a killer as an option :-)
@lincolnmicrophonellc
@lincolnmicrophonellc 5 жыл бұрын
Nice thank you!
@savanaviolenta
@savanaviolenta 5 жыл бұрын
Does the synth comes with patch cables?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but only 2 of them.
@OmarBonifacino
@OmarBonifacino 9 ай бұрын
Hi very great sound K2 nice friend
@AdamsBrew78
@AdamsBrew78 5 жыл бұрын
How would you think this compares to iMS-20 on iPad? I’ve been experimenting with making tracks in Gadget using only ms-20 for all sounds, and am quite impressed with the range it has. Quite a phenomenal synth. I’d love to see someone crazy enough to chain 16 together for monster 16 voice MS-20 ;P
@lucasc5622
@lucasc5622 5 жыл бұрын
If we're all being completely honest, it probably sounds much the same, when you record a synth, you instantly lose the analogue-ness of the sound. But nothing beats having a set of dedicated (real life) control knobs, not just some buttons on an iPad. Being able to change a patch so quickly and with real tactility adds a whole new world to making sounds. A K2 is probably cheaper than most iPads anyway!
@AdamsBrew78
@AdamsBrew78 5 жыл бұрын
@@lucasc5622 It really depends - most music fans won’t be able to tell a difference between analog and digital in a mix, especially with the type of consumer speakers/headphones they listen on. Nothing in the recording process makes the differences entirely vanish though - here’s an example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoKwYpJ-pt5nrdU 3 identical mixes - 2 with minimoog VSTs (among best Model D emulations in business, Synapse The Legend and Arturia MiniV) and one with original Minimoog. I somewhat surprised myself, so quickly picking the one analog mix just with iPad speakers. You can tell there’s no aliasing, especially on the filter sweeps. Far more organic/infinite another even more clear example would be found on Deadmau5’s masterclass, where he compares digital vs analog - the silky smoothness of analog definitely comes across if you have an ear for it and you’re actively focusing on where the difference is most noticeable. (OSC/filter sweeps, etc) That said, VSTs have improved so much in the last 10-20 years and are getting better all the time; There’s nothing wrong with relying solely on them, even for mainstream production work. I’m definitely no analog snob :)
@walkeracid
@walkeracid 5 жыл бұрын
That "printer-cable" is a Eurorack cable (ffs)
@daniyalahmed97
@daniyalahmed97 5 жыл бұрын
Though i heard its not compatible with eurorack voltages?
@BrokenBeats94
@BrokenBeats94 5 жыл бұрын
Power bus cable if you want to get to serious about this haha but yes I'm shocked he didn't know that?
@0Fdigital
@0Fdigital 5 жыл бұрын
@@daniyalahmed97 It's not compatible with the eurorack control voltage standard (v/oct). That's different to power supply voltage.
@markorendas1790
@markorendas1790 5 жыл бұрын
DOES BEHRINGER HAVE STOCK OPTIONS...I WANT TO INVEST
@SynthesizerSam
@SynthesizerSam 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Orendas No, because they are a private company they can make these synths for great prices and not have to worry about making profits for shareholders. Buy all their synths, those are your stocks in the company 😁
@johnnyv673
@johnnyv673 5 жыл бұрын
www.copycats.com/
@havelockveterini3160
@havelockveterini3160 5 жыл бұрын
I tried to follow tour s&h patch. Is that normal that I ear the noise through the sample and hold? MG square out into clock, pink noise out into s&h in and s&h out into LP filter in.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
You have to reduce the pulse to a minimum other wise you can hear the noise. Ie turn the modulation shape as clockwise as possible, the circuit will then only sample a tiny fraction of the noise.
@havelockveterini3160
@havelockveterini3160 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr thank you, I'll try this way. 👍 (it is normal to ear the noise if the impulsion is to wide, it's not a problem of the s&h module)
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s completely normal
@NervenklinikRecords
@NervenklinikRecords 3 жыл бұрын
Is the lettering gold or yellow?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 3 жыл бұрын
Yellow
@NervenklinikRecords
@NervenklinikRecords 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr thanks!
@user-zn8zm8wn3z
@user-zn8zm8wn3z 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of CJ Bolland- Horsepower
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
I'll take a listen, cheers.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Жыл бұрын
​@@StarskyCarr You never listened to CJ Bolland? Definitely give his whole catalog a listen, and start with the oldest stuff from like 1990 or late 80s. I'm 28 but even I know CJ Bolland....his music had that oldschool Belgian techno sound.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise of course I have 😂but had to go and listen to Horsepower. Cnut remember the names of every track from everyone unfortunately.
@GNeuman
@GNeuman 5 жыл бұрын
Gizza job, Starsky, go on gizza...!
@muppetpaster
@muppetpaster 4 жыл бұрын
It is a nice thingy altough I prefer my 1979 MS20....Got them both...
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky thing ;)
@DavidJKellett
@DavidJKellett 5 жыл бұрын
No UK Power?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
No, neither does the RD8 - I bit frustrating tbh having to keep on buying adaptors - which never seem quite mechanically stable enough!
@DavidJKellett
@DavidJKellett 5 жыл бұрын
When mine arrived yesterday they have a UK adapter!!! Same as the Behringer Odyssey- I,wonder why yours didn’t?
@philippedubern4045
@philippedubern4045 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly the K2 is far from ridiculous, the MS20 character is there, at least it's sufficient to give up with buying a vintage or reissued MS20
@malthus101
@malthus101 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Korg - make an MS-20 Mini module, same size as the K-2, with the same build quality as the K-2 (and keep including 10 nice yellow patch cables) - you'd have a winner with that.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve compared the two on another video 😀
@malthus101
@malthus101 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr what two?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
@@malthus101 the K2 and the MS20 Mini - the 2 you mentioned.
@malthus101
@malthus101 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr I was just saying Korg should remake the MS-20 "like" the K2 (I just think the Korg looks cooler that's all) 😎
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 2 жыл бұрын
@@malthus101 aaah.. gotcha.
@mcmike100
@mcmike100 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have giant hands?
@SyntheticFuture
@SyntheticFuture 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, these things are tiny ;)
@KiR_3d
@KiR_3d 5 жыл бұрын
You'll drop Mini's sales lately (19:00) :D
@gabesudholt
@gabesudholt Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@cyberluke
@cyberluke 5 жыл бұрын
I had MS-20M (limited desktop module edition) and it sounds very phat. This sounds too thin. The oscillators are different, sometimes it sounds more like a Moog than Korg. Can you make fat bass sound on this machine?
@JeezMax
@JeezMax 5 жыл бұрын
What's that in the bottom of the box at :25? Looks like something out of a manga...
@RobertZYX
@RobertZYX 3 жыл бұрын
super cool
@RoofLight00
@RoofLight00 5 жыл бұрын
Although a good little synth, the build quality on the Korg mini was rubbish and pretty cheap in comparison to how this looks. I've already got a MonoPoly and a Polysix and a Pro 600. Now do I hold out for the Pro One clone or get this?...........hmmmm
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe wait until I do a pro1 vs Pro-one comparison? ;)
@RoofLight00
@RoofLight00 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Heh, that would make sense. I've also just got the RD8 and working my way round that. Behringer are on fire at the moment.
@MisAnnThorpe
@MisAnnThorpe 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that the MS20 mini feels cheaply built and doesn't exactly inspire confidence that things won't fall off in your hand. I'd be surprised though if the BehRinger clone was any better built.
@michaelreid5307
@michaelreid5307 3 жыл бұрын
The midi in could be placed better.
@klaasj7808
@klaasj7808 5 жыл бұрын
and a song with it
@davidpinto1195
@davidpinto1195 5 жыл бұрын
ironic that you use a Korg controller
@ryantakach1478
@ryantakach1478 5 жыл бұрын
Oh that boi is thicc
@ekoboydj
@ekoboydj 5 жыл бұрын
just got mine and i feel the overall volume output substantially lower than rest of my synths
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Just checked it against the Korg MS20 Mini - just 2dB lower.
@ekoboydj
@ekoboydj 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr Have you figured a way to KB reset the Lfo?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
@@ekoboydj No - I don't think it's possible There's no reset patch point, I think the LFOs are free running.
@ekoboydj
@ekoboydj 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr perhaps there was a workaround with the clock patchpoint and the EG. but indeed dont think its doable
@ekoboydj
@ekoboydj 5 жыл бұрын
i may have found something. patch kbd cvout to clock, vca out to vco Freq, vca in to mod gen and turn full clockwise the release time of EG1
@fiddlestickzmuzik
@fiddlestickzmuzik 5 жыл бұрын
Printer cable..LOL..
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Showing my age!
@ju6920
@ju6920 4 жыл бұрын
Today IS my birthday
@ME-ru4hv
@ME-ru4hv 5 жыл бұрын
I trust Starsky! However behringer does give me strange trepidation 🤣 Is it ok to say it feels like a little example of Trump's battle with China's market monopoly thingy🤔 Am I totally off on that? Like what's up with $25 pedals!
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
Economies of scale and owning your own manufacturing plant in China cutting out a few middle men.
@ME-ru4hv
@ME-ru4hv 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarskyCarr So it's a good thing? I used to have problems with their utility stuff dying. Do you think these things have improved? I think it's a fair question/concern. anyway thanks!
@-thirteen
@-thirteen 5 жыл бұрын
@@ME-ru4hv I think cheap synths done well can only be a good thing.
@maikmario71
@maikmario71 5 жыл бұрын
Danke,jetzt weiß ich was ich nicht kaufen sollte !Guter unaufregender Plastik Sound nicht mehr,muß man nicht haben !!! Knirsch,knarsch,quisch,pieps.....klingt wie alle neuen analogen Synthesizer modern,steriel,glatt,sauber! Keine Tiefe,kein organischer Swing dank smd Verlötung etc.
@HOLODECK-MUSIC-PROJECT
@HOLODECK-MUSIC-PROJECT 5 жыл бұрын
maik edens meinst Du das hat nur was mit den SMDs zu tun? Mein Vermona Monolancet ist der glatte Gegenbeweis, analoger gehts nicht, er hat im Vergleich mehr Cremigkeit, Organic als mein Boog D
@reginaldbowls7180
@reginaldbowls7180 5 жыл бұрын
No PWM? Still V/hz? No thanks, I'd rather have a vintage modified one still.
@MrDaigoRiki
@MrDaigoRiki 5 жыл бұрын
Behringer is just a copy cat.
@cresshead
@cresshead 5 жыл бұрын
PWM....
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
No - I was planning on mentioning that - but stuck to what it can do.
@rainbowdash1203
@rainbowdash1203 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Vst
@EnochDark
@EnochDark 5 жыл бұрын
?
@mr.irrelevant3588
@mr.irrelevant3588 5 жыл бұрын
not
@rainbowdash1203
@rainbowdash1203 5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.irrelevant3588 , yes
@EnochDark
@EnochDark 5 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowdash1203 yes what?
@alexjones4219
@alexjones4219 5 жыл бұрын
Trying way to hard
@Ndlanding
@Ndlanding 5 жыл бұрын
More horrible than a Boris. Even crapper than a Donald. Booby prize in a raffle, it should have a health warning across the keys.
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
I’d only it had keys ;)
@alphare6810
@alphare6810 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds terrible - typical Behringer crap!
@BarnacleButtock
@BarnacleButtock 5 жыл бұрын
Lfo doesn't go nearly fast enough at max speed :(
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll put it through it’s paces in a comparison with the MS20 Mini.
@ElectronicazMusic
@ElectronicazMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Can the esp process CV? Could you send the lfo through it to boost its speed?
@StarskyCarr
@StarskyCarr 5 жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicazMusic No, it has an amp, LP, HP, frequency to CV converter, envelope follower and trigger. There's nothing that could speed up the LFO.
@BarnacleButtock
@BarnacleButtock 5 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuuu
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