More big 9.2 changes and the Jungle update!

[@ThePhylol]

There were a bunch more changes added after I made that last video.. apparently they didn't fancy changing stuff in preseason so the whole meta will break just as ranked starts!

[@pykegoesbrrr2125]

I heard Irelia got nerfed on pbe... Passive not longer roasting shields, Q dmg not doubled to minions now normal dmg like 60,70,80,90,100 , R damage increased and the R does not longer block the autoattacks from the enemys... Hope its right! xD

[@emilpetrov9173]

I literally how you can call whatever this thing is a "patch". If you think irelia 5ms nerf was meme-able just look at this. +-5 ad here and there... i have no idea why rito even bothered. If these nerfs have an effect on gameplay it will be simply placebo

[@peterbergeon9001]

btw for kayn it just means that previously, as your passive scales with time, champs you attack latter into the game had a bigger influence on what you transformed into, aka lets say you did even damage to ranged vs melee champs, but the melee damage all came after the ranged damage, you would get Rast as your transformation, because you got more melee orbs, because of time scaling, now it is purely based on damage percentage. Second part does what it says, you can now shave off a minute waiting for the other form change.

[@clarkklingbeil6568]

The RIOT way but :) not as bad as pre worlds Jugger patch but still... ritoplz

[@k64speed]

The 3AD Vayne nerf that required a paragraph of explanation.

[@KneeCaps]

Wow another jungle exp nerf. Wow another patch where we get to see ivern for 2 patches after and then watch him disappear again.

[@feitopuns]

nahhh Ivern is in a really good shape to be honest if you play him a lot

[@joelakinyemi954]

KNEECAPS SENPAI????

[@anarchysoulNW]

I play ivern in any patch.. if u are a team player and not all.u want is kill, he is pretty useful

[@smra3847]

@@anarchysoulNW stupid changes ... hey my toplane needs help ... lvl 5 jungler vs lvl 8 toplane ...

[@Drekaruz]

LOL HAHAHAHA

[@legendofloki665i9]

Seems like Riot learned nothing from last year. They need to do these changes during preseason, not after it. >.

[@parazitul1986]

So they introduced a lot of changes to make the games end faster and now they nerf baron buff and buff towers to make the games last longer? Talk about inconsistency.

[@Bobo_was_born]

Sometimes I think the people who are in charge actually have no idea what are they doing...

[@theleafsbloodyflash]

They introduced changes to make decided games end faster, not all games. Heck, not even most games. Hence why they're reverting/changing stuff again

[@Ramza941]

Getting baron was too oppressive to the losing team. If you were behind Baron made it even more difficult to stage a come back. You should be rewarded for being ahead early but the game shouldn't be decided by the 20 min mark.

[@haresay1568]

I think it's because an early baron was sooooo decisive

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

Talk about a very one sided analysis...You should try to be devils advocate on your opinions before you wrote them for the internet to see. Riot specifically wanted to shorten the average game time as well as make snowball teams more consistently win via early damage and minion ramp ups. They then adjusted shutdowns and turret plating to allow comebacks to be reliably possible. Baron was just too strong a buff at 20 which is why it's being toned down. Sometimes you internet trolls need to rub your 2 brain cells together

[@alexcristian2003]

This preseason was so lame. Just turret plating. 2 months has passed from the start of the preseason and riot is realising that they need to change adc and jg 2 patches in a row. GG Rito

[@Ramza941]

I feel the same way. Nothing exciting this season. No new items, same meta, and the same old introducing champs with broken af kits (hi akali and aatrox). League is really going to die at this rate.

[@amirken5309]

Olbohn I agree I only can play league with my friends because the game usually is toxic or int-ers. But now none of my friends even play this shit because the new season is boring af. So I haven’t played since November

[@pedromeneses5661]

Jungle is now going to be gank based champions only, since farm based junglers have been nerfed to hell Might consider maining lee sin from now on. Since jungle is an early game role now.

[@javierflores3144]

Idk why they nerf framing junglers while the level 2 gank junglers is sitting on meta and now its more depended on ganks

[@the_darkness2156]

people are complaning about early ganks deciding lane phase= riot nerfs late game jglers. genious!

[@the_darkness2156]

@Salterino Kripperino i would give up a litle of the early game power i think it is a litle strong, not overpowerd. But this nerf is actualy just brain dead and makes no sense whatsoever! people are tired of getting ganked lvl 2 i think that everyone understands that if u are a rengar with 200 cs and 7/2/2 at 20 minutes u should probably be a lvl or 2 over other players

[@sukoii616]

They want the game to go faster therefore junglers would be focused more on ganking, farming champs and getting plates.

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

@@the_darkness2156 we solo laners are not upset about lvl 2 ganks... the issue is that junglers can power farm and stay almost even in level while outganking my own jungler. That Lee sin who ganks top 6 times before 10 minutes should be severely under leveled compared to myself.

[@nfzeta128]

I find the thing is though, only one or two gank junglers really excelled in game. They may cause some trouble but they tended to fall off and still lose the game, even with the short durations.

[@DanielMcPaniel]

These jungle changes make no sense, right now people are angry with the early game jungler's impact on the game, so how will nerfing xp do anything but make that worse? The reason early game junglers are in the meta right now is because they cannot farm to carry. Power farming the jungle to try to get an xp lead has been much less effective ever since the scuttle changes, so junglers decided that the only way to win was to get their solo laners ahead, and they do that by spam ganking, which is what laners hate right now. All riot is doing with these changes is making spam ganking a more viable strategy, because now that jungle xp is so much lower, junglers won't be able to carry at all. It will be a solo lane dominated meta with junglers just camping to try to get their laners more fed than yours to win. It's unfun for everybody, no one likes to get carried and basically do nothing, and laners don't like to constantly worry about the jungler that's sitting in tribush all game, riot really needs to rethink what they want jungle to do.

[@brandonsoledad1044]

BizzareMagician They know exactly what they want the jungle to do. More ganks = more action so their Esports scene become more exciting to watch. Riot hasnt made changes based on solo/duo queue in years.

[@pedromeneses5661]

@@brandonsoledad1044 But it will eventually start killing their game.

[@ddhb3032]

@@pedromeneses5661 i'm bound to believe that this esports matter is the only thing that actually keeps the game alive. except a few, most of the skins of the last years were utterly garbage quality wise and even looked really bad compared to some very very old skins like angler jax (which were also said to be one time only available to purchase but yeah riot brought them back into the shop digging for money while indirectly shouting: "fuck you" at their initial player/customerbase that made this game big)

[@ThePolarpop]

@@ddhb3032 I'm not hating on what you said but I've always preached that angler jax is an awful skin to look at or play, personally.

[@JustJoseph]

I don't know why they couldn't add all these in the preseason... These have all been problems throughout the year.

[@mellow1732]

I dont think riot understands logic.

[@xhellionx3437]

@@mellow1732 remember you don't need to play the game to design one and make changes XD.

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

You realize they wont release any major changes the week before and after the major holidays to ensure the game doesnt break while short staffed. I personally would just make preseason longer to test things

[@JustJoseph]

@@JfkNeedsWindWall I'm saying this as in when preseason started. Not in the middle. They've done bigger changes during preseason.

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

@@JustJoseph yes but they opened with those big changes. The fact big changes didn't start the preseason meant they had to either not exist or come at the end...its not an indication that the company can be run better by morons on the internet. You internet trolls get upset over the dumbest things, seasons last for 10.5 months, who cares if big changes start the season

[@louisdodge3731]

Here comes the J4 support boys, I'm calling it now!

[@GoldenGuitar_]

I played that back in season 2 every game and loved it

[@HawkAnomaly]

been doing j4 supp since season 4 still do. really nice in some matchups

[@aspectoftheyeti1232]

I have been doing this on season 8 for fun

[@PaterHaenis]

actually try ap jarvan with aery and E max and tell me you dont have fun with j4 support, btw yes it procs aery and even ardent with a 70% ap scaling on your E, for the lack of tankyness in midgame, its fun to toy with tho

[@Goetterkomplex_]

Better take away 5 movementspeed from jax

[@alexnick1504]

R:Every 3rd hit Jax heals the enemy target. Riot:We did this because we thought Jax lacks damage. This is how Riot's brain works!

[@Goetterkomplex_]

@@alexnick1504 pretty much, ye

[@areebjafrani9458]

Yaaaaaaaaaaas Kayn buffs. D3 player here, trust me Phy it means a lot. Kayns even change who we gank based on the transformation we want. Accidentally getting the wrong form and waiting 4 minutes is brutal so this helps a ton!

[@tanaskov7332]

I know bro fking feeling the same

[@Kayn_The_Shadow_Reaper]

Areeb Jafrani hell yeah

[@hottercore]

I never changed who I ganked to get a certain form.. securing a kill on melee/ranged with your meter close to full is all you had to do in order to get the form you wanted. The changes will make orb value more consistent but on live it doesnt really matter who you fight only the type of champ you kill to fill your meter, so dont alter your path just to get a form.

[@blazewalker7313]

The R buff is nice though and makes it so you don't have to Q back in just to get in auto range >_>

[@relhunyad7930]

I think it's not that necessary to buff him when his Rhast and Shadow Kayn are somehow broken. That's just me, but hey good for Kayn players.

[@bentheblaster1972]

River shen is back

[@IrateGeniuss]

For as much crap as jg players get from laners for not carrying their losing lanes for them they deserve solo lane xp. I also bet most players in lower elos won't see or remember this change so when we on average do less than we could b4 it'll make the jg an even more toxic role to be.

[@slayerofturks7467]

Yep i am gonna have to endure again all those cancer wishes cause now after a successfull gank i am gonna tax a lot. I had stopped for a season and half but i am gonna resort to it again plus when i hit diamond and above sr midlaners but all blues are for me.

[@casszhang554]

Yeah, I will take blue and red all game after this change.

[@vlm321]

@@slayerofturks7467 exactly i feel the same

[@jackbartick5256]

From what I’ve noticed playing Kayn is that I’ve often been screwed over because the last champ I hit will be the opposite color from the one I’m trying to transform into so I’ll be forced to wait for 4 minutes to get my preferred transformation. With the Kayn change it will be a little more difficult to know which form you will become but the gaining stacks for the other form will help people who get stuck in the wrong form transform quicker.

[@Hydraphobics]

Can we talk about those thresh plays at 1:53, 5:03 Like Poggers

[@Penguyen.]

1:53 wasted flash. Jax can easily follow Malphite. 5:03 missed both hooks, first one would have changed the perspective of the whole fight, but it was a good flay ult combo on Irelia. Nothing really impressive about both plays.

[@Hydraphobics]

@@Penguyen. r/woosh

[@nighttiger314]

So the Kayn change is basically that right now there are two "bars" you can fill, one for melee champs and one for ranged. The icon on your HUD only shows the most full bar, including the time bonuses making each orb worth more points to fill the bar. The change is that (in addition to showing you which form you're closer to, thank you so much Riot) there's only one bar to fill, but it's bigger now.

[@TheZacBlob]

So basically with these kayn changes, expect him to get form earlier, and efficiently, before these changes both red and blue were two separate bars, meaning if you attacked melee champions only the red bar would fill, whereas now if you attack a melee champion your one bar will fill with however many orbs the game decides you have earned. At the end of the bar being filled up the game decides which has more (unless the difference between the two forms is 8% then it’s whatever you attacked last) and gives you that form. Hope that helped

[@aaronk1896]

someone recognized it's an ap shyvana in all of the clips? pretty strong shit, even midlane.

[@achair7598]

Tbh, jungle role has just gotten worse and worse since s7 where they changed everything about jungle, changes that nobody asked for, and making many junglers that doesn't have great 1v1 potentional, completely useless. Ivern just got dumped too.

[@pedromeneses5661]

Lmao Ivern lol

[@architectsxiii5379]

Ivern is banned and hated a lot on Korea. EU/NA just don't know how to use him

[@nicholashutchinson7104]

JG getting the ADC treatment

[@AhDifferentBreed]

What that means for kayn is that he won't have to wait 2 to 3 extra seconds sitting doing nothing because he can't back while his e is on him. The transforming buffs mean that when you fight and accidentally get red form now you can decrease the cooldown of getting blue form which is 4 or 3 min. You get the cooldown by fighting ranged champs to decrease the cooldown by 5 seconds each hit or orb? This can be done vice versa too for red form if you got blue form and don't want it. The general fighting change is that when you fight a melee champ all game and then fill orbs to about halfway then you run it down bot and kill 2 ranged champs you will most likely get blue form. Now it should go off of who you have attack and fought more rather than just the last few people you have fought to depend on what form you will get.

[@Madfox157]

Jungle has become the nerf punching bag now that Irelia is a fan favorite

[@strategist973]

This fix to Kayn was very needed because to many times I want to go Rhaast but the majority of the champions on their team are bulky ranged champions like Thresh and Swain. So seeing there is a way to get Red form and not waiting 20 minutes for the timer to go down is a very nice thing to have

[@Eupeye]

Hi Phy, love your videos, been following for a long time. I have a little suggestion: When adding your voice to the video, try to EQ it, add 2 db on the 8KHz and reduce 5 db on the 200Hz for a more clear, natural voice. Cheers!

[@ripex9376]

I think at the moment Kayn is stacking up two seperate bars for range and melee. So they want to change it to one bar which contains both. When its full it looks up which you have more of and you can instantly transform into this or you can damage the opposite to gain stacks to reduce the cooldown of the other Form. That's how I think they meant that, not sure tho.

[@steelgutz]

"Biggest patch of the year" well it just started but yk HA

[@Icefire3339]

No, I think he means season 8, since preseason 9 is part of season 8 and is just ending

[@johannestapper3003]

@@Icefire3339 season 8 ended when preseason started and the start of season 9 is the end of preseason. Preseason is always it's own thing because there's no ranked then. Yes you can play ranked games, but they won't affect your positioning at the start of the next season.

[@Icefire3339]

@@johannestapper3003 No, go to the stats tab in profile. It says that it is still season 8. So does the ranked tab.

[@thegamersareinthehouse7771]

Kayn main here: what this mean is that now you have 1 bar that fills up with orbs, right now you fill up 2 bars with orbs. One red one blue. This way in the early game you can fill it up faster by just ganking every lane instead of the lane which gives you your planned form.

[@RealMagicClan]

I can already see hashinshin crying

[@danil32983]

he said that jax needs some nerfs so its ok

[@sukoii616]

They nerfed mah boy aatrox man!

[@SkyForceOne2]

If people would actually have a brain when facing Jax...

[@mort6578]

@@SkyForceOne2 its not as easy as that. Teammates exist. Being caught exists. For such a lategame powerhouse, hes holding up too well early.

[@TKO9871]

@@danil32983 he said ER jax needs nerfs.

[@mozan4469]

This thresh in first 2 min was amazing. He understand dps as support and positions himself perfectly for you to make plays

[@imajox3703]

I believe this patch for Kayn is improving the time at which you can select your upgrade. Before you could get stuck not upgrading because you need to attack a melee champ and for the past 6 min you have only hit ranged but your bar needs melee energy so you could a bunch of ranged but not be able to transform. Now transformations should be happening faster. And extra range on his lug provides better escapability when in shadow form. Very helpful for displacing after a kill and trying to run away

[@bestbroseph1258]

the ultimate change for kayn is a huge boost for us assasin kayn players, we remain really squishy, and die to our ult to high mobi champs a bit more, and also, alot of people will just flash to safety right after it ends so we miss the finishing q, now we can choose how far away we exit, making it more versatile for escapes or kills. plus the change to the passive is great because certain champs give you points that are opposite iof what you need, urgot gives assassin points cause hes ranged, and if you want to go raust, you have to wait 4 minutes, now you can reduce that

[@YemYum]

The way Kayn works right now is that the bar fills up as white. The transformation you get is completely reliant on the final champion you attacked. So if you filled up your bar 99% from hitting ranged champs, but auto a melee champion and get their red orb stuff, you will get red kayn. It’s kinda dumb but that’s how it works right now. And if you don’t want red kayn, you will have to wait 4 mins to get the option for blue. The changes on pbe make it so his bar accurately reflects which champs he has been hitting the most, and gives you that form accordingly. Thank god for that.

[@joseandreschavarriahin5421]

Hazzah King what they should really do is to give the option to choose the form that you want. Independently, from who you ganked. That way from a team composition and strategical sight, Kayn could be viable

[@SlippyLegJones]

2:40 that smite rustled my jimmies holy.

[@Merfolk_]

Great, now I have to spend more time in the jungle to make up for the lack of exp and get delayed in ganking while making sure I could kill someone with the jungle item nerfs. Yes, this is totally viable.

[@lucasalvarez1666]

Naaa now you will go to top lane, 2 in top, 1 mid abd 2 bot lane.... the game die

[@abyssprive5646]

3:00 love that lb getting two shot

[@SoL-wd1bm]

pretty much on the kayn i think it will more open kayn to gank any lane rather than camp his form because of the reducing the cool down with getting to orbs from the type that would give you the form you want so you can gank any lane rather than one lane that may or may not be the best choice to gank

[@javan4402]

As a jungle main im depressed

[@mexhaitjakupi6073]

Me to this is gonna hit many jgs really hard.

[@Andreas-fn8mo]

It's straight forward dump. They should buff jungl exp so we can play more farm junglers. Then we wouldn't have to gank all the time and the pressure on the lanes would lose off

[@The_Lightless]

It's so retarded. I'm 100% convinced that riot games balanced team all has top and mid laners who can win 1v1 but has zero protection against ganks and lose 1v1 due to enemy junglers so they get pissed and blame them. The problem with jungle right now is that the exp sucks so nobody wants to farm and would rather get level 2 ganks off and have scuttle crab control. Riot games being the geniuses they are, understand this situation completely and think Nerfing exp in jungle will fix the issue.

[@bountyhunter9308]

We jungle mains all are

[@SqallLionheart]

@@The_Lightless If I remeber correctly they don't have any toplaner or jungler, they are mainly midlaners, adc and supports. Still this does not change the fact that those changes can't be defended (I usually try to find some sense in every change they make), they are absolutely horrible. As a jungle player I can predict two things will happen (but I hope they won't): 1)extreme taxing and subsequential spam ping from the laners 2)Increment in the toxicity in solo Q across all the elos when someone take a buff/jungle camps. I understand riot need to balance for pros, but they can't make changes this heavily oriented toward the pro scene, now to play jungle it will be necessary to have high level of coordination, and this is already difficult in high elo, see the mess that's going to happen in lower elos like gold. Well I guess that iron gank montage will have a lot of material from 9.2 on. But seriously this is a team game ok, but they shouldn't force playstiles that require heavy coordination in solo q, pro play games will be more exciting for sure, but they have to make sure their action don't affect the playerbase this much

[@iTechGamingLOL]

For those who don't know what exactly that passive change means for Kayn, it prevents for kayn players to choose which transformation they like to get, cause right now if you fill your bar lets say for example 99% with ranged characters and your last orb comes from a melle character then you get automaticly red Kayn, doesnt matter how many blue orbs you gathered but only your last color orb.

[@420thlegioner8]

Riot mehanix. Early game easy ganking junglers are too strong. Let's nerf power farming junglers.

[@herny45]

And this is why I'm gonna start taxing my laners harder than ever now.

[@carl9966]

Taxing is fine, my junglers in plat elo just walk to my lane and start farming for no reason

[@phrog1723]

@@carl9966 Well thats not how you tax LOL.

[@pedromeneses5661]

@@phrog1723 But that's how taxing will work from now on with the exp changes.

[@TriantafyllosTsiakiris]

As long as you junglers do not mess up my wave, im fine. (Annoyed rant below) I remember the 3 games I lost the hardest, it was when I died once, close fight , then my jungler came, fked up the wave, inted a kill and then i was behind 2 levels. Oh, and no ganks afterwards, despite me being under tower.

[@benverzijlbergen2968]

@@TriantafyllosTsiakiris Never gank a losing lane.

[@hebie666]

Kayn change is actually massive. 25% larger bar but as a single one is a stupid big drop, only needing to fight the preferred type of champ 54% of the time to fill it means slightly more fighting but only like 3/4 as much is needed on the specific type you want. Really just a bunch of quality of life stuff, you cant camp someone to get the full bar and transform as quick in ideal situations but itd only add like a couple or so minutes if you played like that anyways. Also yeah the way E works is weird when trying to back so i guess we save ourselves like just under 1 minute over an entire game not waiting for it to expire before we can recall, but really the R change is where its at, the adjustable range makes it so much easier as you take yourself off the target so you gotta predict which way theyre gonna run. Red Kayn will love just being dropped right on top of them while the Blue gets the bigger range which gives you the option to drop on top or skedaddle the fuck outta there.

[@Rwan-eh2ni]

Now what, jg is a support now?

[@lucasalvarez1666]

Jg dont exist any more... now is 2 top, 1 mid, 2 bot.... game will die

[@Doublejho]

@@lucasalvarez1666 lmao no jungle will be fine, quit posting this everywhere

[@lucasalvarez1666]

@@Doublejho nobody tells you to read it, and i answer ruiding wang i dont know what are you doing here

[@Doublejho]

@@lucasalvarez1666 just see you crying all over everybody's comments tbh, give it a rest

[@SuperWalle97]

basically with kayn yo ucan still charge up the other form instead of waiting for 4 minutes before getting the other form aswell, cool buff if you want to go the other form and by mistake you get the one you didn't want to

[@gamerater3175]

its like riot doesn't want me to main jungle there killing me here

[@norozaki402]

As a Jungle Main, the main reason on why junglers stay on top of the xp/gold graph is because most junglers tend to take a ton of xp and a bit of gold when ganking a lane, and i do so to, everytime I gank I end up pushing the wave which makes me kind of a parasite that nearly halves my laners hp, now what i suggest is that they should not implement these xp jungle changes but change the amount of xp they are collecting from minions, for as the name is called "Jungler" not Laner and that they should thrive on jungle xp and gold unlike taxing a teammates lane. Also please give warwick his old stronger bite back :(

[@norozaki402]

Added info/tip. If your laner dies or ganks another lane, try to push the wave and take everything then look at how much you have time you have spent unlike rotating and clearing your camps 1 by 1. Plating also helps.

[@Kayn_The_Shadow_Reaper]

Man those kayn quality of life change are sooo good

[@shadowpritchard]

From what I understand the Kayn changes are more of a quality of life change than a buff. I have just recently started playing Kayn and the transformation changes will definitely help me out a lot, mostly because I am not that familiar with the champ.

[@ttimhappy]

Phy: "Biggest patch of the year." Me: *Checks date* Fair enough

[@DA_MOZAMAN]

To be honest as a jungler i was mad at the changes but when he said that yi will struggle i thought it would be worth it hopfully they remove that red buff slow and give it more health regen so late game jnglers dont insta lose in early fights and survive more while doing there jungle path

[@hermundlienese6021]

Oh yeah yeah

[@mykeehed5096]

oh yeah yeah

[@IngusRogeth]

oh yeah yeah

[@ArcticWolfOfficial]

11:34 Why did he have to delete them like that lmao

[@itemtest1]

Thanks for the info as usual :)

[@knightkronko7706]

Ive been waiting for this vid!

[@hideathwing]

What do you think of; Sona with shield bash and bone plating/ Revitalize? isnt that kinda broken with the guardian master that gives you and your adc a shield?

[@cadetgamester]

Spanking urgot in laning phase would be nice xD

[@the_darkness2156]

@@tomynaumann i think u are being a litle delusional bud, yes he has "alot" of conterpicks since there is alot of champion on top lane but he also conters alot of champions, u win 50% of lanephases as urgot just by picking urgot

[@tomynaumann]

@@the_darkness2156 Sure but there are other champs like Heimerdinger or Mordekaiser which win 95% of all their matches and riot doesn't care about nerfing them. Apart from that, laning phase is really important but it doesn't define the whole game. The thing that pisses me off is that there are champs which are much much more broken and riot takes an eternity to nerf them or they don't even acknowledge that there is a problem with these champions.

[@Dynobotoverlord]

@@tomynaumann *looks at akali*

[@the_darkness2156]

@@tomynaumann ????? urgot hasnt been nerfed since he is viable, he was pick/ban for the first half of worlds, that was 3 months ago

[@the_darkness2156]

@@tomynaumann i dont think he is extremely "broken" but u surely isnt worst than heimer or mord

[@stallionfury0]

The nerf on Urgot isn’t too bad, if you play him safe and use PTA to your advantage then you don’t need to engage at all, I generally max W first because there’s no need to poke + starting cull, with bloodline and triumph with bone plating and barrier makes him hard to bring down early and trades more punishable on their side but the healing 3pH (per hit) on cull will make it tougher using W freely since it’s a longer CD Laning shouldn’t be different by a lot...

[@guidomista3570]

Yay Kayn buffs!

[@temporaldeicide9558]

Yo... Anybody gonna play like two top, one mid, two bot? And like fk the jg?

[@smra3847]

yes fuck it now... its stupid a top gank at 10 mins is hard enough against a garen or jax now that is 2 lvls above you and now it will be lvl 5 against lvl 8 yeah no jungle for me anymore

[@lucasalvarez1666]

Exactly, 2 top 1 mid 2 bot.... the game die

[@Doublejho]

@@smra3847 some people just aren't cut out for the role i guess

[@GreenOpurge]

Trong Vinh Nguyen might aswell be top, spotter. Mid. Adc support

[@GreenOpurge]

ŠØMƁŘÃ its hard enough when you try to tell laners to engage and they just end up hurting themselves and expect you to win their lanes

[@blindassazn]

I went to camping world to purchase a tent and some fire wood. i have to warm up these bandage toss since i am no longer needed in the jungle.

[@thelonewolf9866]

We are the robots!

[@ImActuallyANiceGuy]

what riot wants to achieve with these changes is to stop early game junglers for dominating late game as well. Having lee sins and camilles dominating early game(as they supposed to) and then being beasts even on late game because they are 18 lvl by 25 min while people are still 15-16 lvl was the problem. Powerfarming junglers in the other hand are just okay. They don't have that crazy late game powerspikes where they would be able to carry 1v9 but they are still viable, as jungle camps scale at lvl 6 which means they still gonna get lvl 6 faster than the enemy jungler if they have good pathing. Obviously they are weaker than b4 and more situational but they are more balanced than powerfarming metas. These changes also intent to bring back some utility in the jungle. Right now you won't get outright punished if you play sejuani for example or ivern as they are not too much xp reliant.

[@Treesixzero]

The kayn changes are so nice

[@BluePhoenix467]

The jungler is supposed to be what influences the laners win or feed, he is supposed to help lanes against opponents, including enemy jungler. Like, what are they thinking? Jg vs jg fight is never going to be viable, there is always one superior, either by skill or just better champ. They are making them weaker to nerf the only thing they do good, which is ganking. (Weaker jungler = less consistent ganks. Weaker jungler = strongest laners wins, could also 1v2-2v3, so late game laners are basically doomed)

[@ponyfish157]

I dont play a lot of kayn either but because of how shit i thought the passive was. The new passive does help you actually decide wich form you want instead of having it almost be RNG or extremly punishing wich is AWESOME. Damn riot first aurelion and now this? my prayers have been heard

[@joshuasiktar4105]

one thought about Jax is to maybe buff some of his counters top lane in order to indirectly nerf him

[@ArminWasTaken]

The changes to Kayn are not buffs. They're meant to clarify what form you will be getting first, but overall it's a nerf, you'll need 100 more points to transform when the patch comes down.

[@qhitbox8134]

Yes but im not sure if he mwntioned this but you actually get more orbs now if I remember correctly. So it kinda balances out.

[@ArminWasTaken]

@@qhitbox8134 Luke Ames that's the bonus amount of orbs you gain early game, scales down at 10 min to 15 min, and then it scales down to normal again. That was a buff he was given 2 or 3 patches ago to make Kayn players more proactive early instead of just diving into powerfarming from the first minute. The patch text says that time-based multiplier is maintained, but now we'll need 500 points instead of 400.

[@kimplin]

oh hell yeh pickin that volibear support again

[@philswiftreligioussect9619]

Hopefully, Volibear's Q will finally scale in 9.3 or 9.4, and he'll be a great champion again

[@SkyForceOne2]

Tbh you'd need alot more to make this guy viable again... mainly take some damage out of the game.

[@philswiftreligioussect9619]

@@SkyForceOne2 OK how about this BUFFS TO MAKE VOLIBEAR GOOD 1. PASSIVE HEALING INCREASED TO 40% FROM 30% 2. ULTIMATE NOW REDUCES 30% OF AN ENEMIE'S MAGIC RESISTANCE 3. Q NOW SCALES WITH 15% HEALTH 4. W NOW HAS 15% ARMOR PENETRATION UPON HIT 5. VOLIBEAR'S E NOW HAS A 400 EFFECT RADIUS

[@SkyForceOne2]

@@philswiftreligioussect9619 I think that they should make the passive cooldown scale downwards per level. 200 seconds in lategame is kind of useless.

[@philswiftreligioussect9619]

@@SkyForceOne2 uhhh...passive is 120 in general..... Whatever, do you think my Volibear buffs could make Volibear good again?

[@philswiftreligioussect9619]

@@SkyForceOne2 Also I meant 480 range not 400 my bad

[@AlexikxPlays]

Dat Kayn int in the beginning

[@trentonstevens4965]

Does the make counter jungling even more important? So would jungles with faster clears become stronger?

[@seardrax527]

The experience change is against funneling, you funnel for the extra xp thats why they reverted the funnel nerf the other patch

[@vivienne6962]

They should make jg tutorial. In lower elo some ppl still don't know how jg works

[@Adam-qx2lt]

Which days are u streaming?

[@ThePhylol]

this week will be back on sunday and every day after that all week :)

[@DONTDISLIKEMYVIDEOS]

why u hate me only because im ugly thats great hihihhihihihi

[@lucmon98]

btw jax jungle is even in dia 3+ a thing. not only in low elo. he is great against e. g. xin

[@arreeffe3317]

That kayn buff means i no longer need to camp 1 lane to farm out the form, this helps us kayn players and our team since we wont abandon lanes that would give us the other form

[@jus1723]

Is there gonna be a best of each position coming out for 9.2 soon?

[@tanaskov7332]

These changes should have come last season. And the kayn changes are really helpful and make a lot more sense.

[@sharudabling5053]

Man, finally some shyvana buffs, but I think that the passive buff is a bit op (shyvana main btw)

[@kkiinn]

why would they buff inhib towers when they've said recently that the respawn time on late game is because they don't want the games to be "too long"

[@zaratounga]

Early ganking junglers are too strong, what Riot does: Nerfing ALL the non-early ganking junglers by nerfing jungle XP, what the actual fuck..

[@ElMasBuscado157]

Im just looking forward to the new Tahm Kench skin

[@ahmedakmal9244]

I damn love these videos and this channel is mu fav for league content, i watch your vods as soon as i see them xD , i have an exam tomorrow Computer graphics but who care JUNGLE CHANGES

[@shadowskys7288]

That kayn buff is massive yes

[@lucasalvarez1666]

Buff? Massive? My god...

[@sarthfrey7655]

yay another phy video :D

[@khazixfuge1993]

Thanks

[@animerules0072]

With Kayns passive think of it as 2 meters filling up (ranged and melee). Which ever one was further along was shown. The problem was it didn’t show if it was red or blue so the player had to keep track. With the change it’s now one meter that fills up and upon completion you get to transform to what had the higher amount. It honestly baffles me that it wasn’t like that from the start. But regards to the jungle changes, I’m tired of riot nerfing junglers probably just going to change roles now. It doesn’t make sense to have the jungler be on par or weaker than the duo laners. These changes force you to go tank junglers again. Could we please stop going back to tank meta? It’s not as fun.

[@casszhang554]

I don't know how yall's game like but in most of my game , bot lane start to take red buff and one of the bot camp after 18 mins, mid lane or top lane will take blue buff ans crab as well. So basiclly after jungle xp nerf, I don't think play jung is an option anymore, you will have lower level than support.and if you had tiny bit of set back like got invade or die lev2 gank, it's pretty much gg for you until very late

[@heretic6537]

Why you didnt show the diana changes as well?

[@lazi2243]

volibear has been buffed omg

[@omarzalloum8028]

Phy plz answer is the counquer will really be removed from the game and put the favor of battle instead

[@mort6578]

No

[@nfzeta128]

I don't think the baron change hit what it should have. Baron's biggest problem to me isn't the stat buff but rather that minions were taking less damage. Its the ridiculous pushing power it gave, and the minions themselves also contributed a lot to fights when pushing with a baron wave.

[@slayerofturks7467]

Honestly most of the nerfs and buffs needed to happen way earlier in the year.But for the sake of season starting big patch they decided to leave the game unbalanced for more than half a year.

[@hottercore]

RIP ranger's smite you're in a better place

[@averagemoe1089]

what are they thinking ?

[@alextsvetanov5155]

What about diana's combo rework? Is it in patch 9.2?

[@exymian1342]

They should reduce the range of Kayn's W and reduce his passive's damage.W's range is ridiculously long and his passive hits so hard that it doesn't matter if he misses his abilities or not.

[@crownglory5688]

Jungle "update"... lol. It's no update just a nerf

[@OmNomCR]

0:36 i see what u did there

[@Uatemydoodle]

Shyvana got a buff? WDF?

[@lexvtd]

"Fixed a bug where Shadowstep ending due to casting a basic attack would occasionally cut Kayn's Q attack short and dealing no damage" IT WAS ABOUT FUCKING TIME THAT PIECE OF SHIT BUG GOT FIXED, JESUS.