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▶ In this video I talk about a few more countries that have moved territory throughout time; taking the suggestions many of you made in the first video's comments. First speaking about Türkiye and explaining how the Turkic migrations came from the East, in Central Asia, then arriving in Anatolia and expanding / consolidating their rule there. Going through the various stages of the existence of Armenia, from Great Armenia, to Bagratid Armenia, Cilician Armenia, and finally the modern version. Comparing the border differences of the old Kingdom of Israel to modern Israel. Understanding how Saxony is the name of 3 different regions of Germany today due to the historical movement and conquest of the Saxons and their ruling dynasties through those areas. Going into the naming of Mauritania and explaining how a similarly named country of Mauretania existed further North. Highlighting Portugal's royal move from Europe to Brazil for a few decades. And also travelling to America to look at how the Mormons attempted nation and state often moved until reaching Utah. As was also the case with the Cherokee and other Native American nations.
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00:00 Intro
00:20 Conflict of Nations
01:15 Türkiye
02:57 Cilician Armenia
04:15 Israel
05:34 Saxony
07:18 Mauritania
08:27 Mormons
09:19 Portugal
10:10 Cherokee
10:48 Summary
11:34 Conflict of Nations
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[@General.Knowledge]

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[@neeneeboy1412]

Can u do the history of the conflicts between palestine and israel ans how israel claim the land they disputed with palestine

[@MrTaxiRob]

Link to the previous episode on this topic?

[@death-istic9586]

Hi.

[@sir_lg6363]

Cajuns

[@joshygoldiem_j2799]

ACTUALLY there were already Turks in Anatolia at the time who had been settled there by the Seljuks. In 1071, they defeated the Romans with virtually no effort at the Battle of Manzikert, and from there took control of the majority of Anatolia. Osman was actually the ruler of a petty beylik that had established in the power vacuum left behind by the Mongols.

[@dracoeris]

My people (Mohawk/Kanien'kehá:ka) used to be based further south around the New York State area. Now the remaining territory is almost entirely hugging the Canadian border or, like where I am, completely on the Canadian side. The entire territorial evolution of the wider Haudenosaunee is cool. From the maximum territorial extent to the current ongoing land disputes.

[@westrim]

I'm surprised Madagascar isn't here, since everyone knows they like to move it, move it.

[@tim_mu9559]

😁

[@goofycat676]

This is even true lol

[@AltaicGigachad]

Turks indeed had a decisive role in triggering historical major events like the Migration Period, Crusades, shaping the history of Balkans, Islamization of Northern India, Age of Discovery as well as ending the Middle Ages with the conquest of Constantinople, fall of the Roman Empire

[@General.Knowledge]

Very true! Huge impact

[@reznov129]

​I live in your walls general

[@Saulgud23]

Yeah the Turks caused a lot of problems

[@Jalayir]

​@@Qazaq_Qyiatyep. Mongol invasions were barely Mongolic in any sort.

[@raritica8409]

@@JalayirNah bro, we aren’t gonna snub Mongol history.

[@phillippillin96]

Great video! Somewhat similarly to the Portuguese government moving, the Papacy moved around Rome, then from Rome to Avignon, finally from Avignon back to Rome. Also, even though the Vatican is not the same as the Papal States, there was also quite a bit of territorial movement in this scenario. Finally, apparently some of the Vatican’s extraterritorial properties have been exchanged for other properties in Italy. I hope that this is helpful!

[@lorenzomariani503]

There are also the Lombards, they migrated from the norther Europe to Italy (the region of Lombardy).

[@General.Knowledge]

Yes! Or the Normans, moving to Britain and to Southern Italy.

[@lorenzomariani503]

@@General.Knowledge True 👍

[@ImperialDiecast]

@@General.Knowledge and Danelaw into England :)

[@coolfinn6736]

I like the intro! Your definitely getting better with recording and filming! Keep up the good work and I can’t wait to see what you post next!

[@jackclement503]

Another great video! I always know I’ll be able to learn something new when you post.

[@Jalayir]

There mustn't be a better example of a 'moving' ethno-linguistic group than the Turkic peoples. They started out from Eastern Siberia (Mongolia, Altai) and now are main ethnic constituents of various countries, like Turkey, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, etc.

[@noone33736]

Turkish*

[@General.Knowledge]

Agreed! Perfect example of migrating people

[@StuTun]

@@noone33736 The demonym is Turkic and the modern day country now calls itself Türkiye in the latin alphabet. This was recognised by the UN in 2022. A turkey is a bird eaten in some countries.

[@--julian_]

​@@noone33736Turkish and turkic mean different things

[@StuTun]

@@--julian_ Turkic refers to the ethnic group, which is rather the point of them being mentioned in the video.

[@mariajoaoferrazdeabreu150]

Always learning with this channel. Congrats

[@evanneal4936]

The saxons didn't just cross Germany but also crossed the channel and migrated to England becoming the Anglosaxons. I'm surprised you didn't mention that in this video.

[@aaronmarks9366]

Yep, and the English counties/regions ending in -sex would be several more "Saxony"s besides the ones in Germany mentioned in the video.

[@user-xz9dp7qo2b]

And the Irish for "England" is "Sassana" (or something similar), from the word Saxon

[@kaikalter]

The North-East of the Netherlands was settled by the Saxons as well, but none but the dialect's name survive (Dutxh Low Saxon)

[@sebe2255]

The Saxons didn’t even cross Germany. Their name did. Which ironically might actually make it an example of a country that moved locations, and not just a nation of people moving and creating a new country, like the Turkic peoples and Turkey

[@ahmadkadan6314]

Armenian presence in Cilicia and Northern levant dates back as far as the first century BC. At some point they had a presence in most of Anatolia. It's a case of a shrunken presence than an actual full nation migration.

[@lunalingo4461]

Feels goooood to be early man🎉🎉🎉

[@armanbatikian2946]

Greetings from Armenia 🇦🇲

[@josueveguilla9069]

Cities that MOVED Locations, please.

[@General.Knowledge]

Great idea! Do you have any suggestions?

[@kaikalter]

​@@General.Knowledge Emmeloord in the Netherlands, originally on Schokland, but moved after the construction of the Noordoostpolder. Being lost to floods before that

[@boy7boy777]

Corinth@@General.Knowledge

[@MaxSafeheaD]

Oooh, you missed a bit with the Saxon's! (I expect you get this a lot, BUT,) I live in Sussex, southeast England. It gets its name derived from Southern Saxons

[@awedelen1]

Fascinating 🙂

[@eliotperl1438]

you should do a video about the oldest borders

[@General.Knowledge]

I did! A good amount of time ago. You can find it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpbTd2V5icZqisU&pp=ygUOb2xkZXN0IGJvcmRlcnM%3D

[@weirdquirkyanddifferent]

I would love a video on Portugal I've watched your other videos on Portugal too many times to count

[@General.Knowledge]

Okay!

[@geraldmeehan8942]

Derek Lambert ofMythVision has a wonderful series with Bryce Blankenaugle and David Fitzgerald on Joseph Smith II and the founding of Mormanism. Thank you for the video!

[@dudelehhh]

Reminder that the "hasmonean kingdom" was a Jewish kingdom in the land of Israel as well. During the second temple era. Lasting around 110 years - 150 bce to 40 bce

[@idanadler1627]

Just wanted to write that. Also pointing out that it's territory was a little bit more similar to modern day israel, only without the Negev desert, Acre and the area near Naharia. Another thing worth mentioning is that the territory of the kingdom of david (united israel) was according to the bible much larger, and streched as far as the Euphrates river in the north

[@hisham_hm]

let's stick to actual factual history and not religious legends, please

[@cl9615]

@@hisham_hmIt’s not a legend. It’s recorded history.

[@fattiesunite2288]

@@cl9615 regardless. Those semites of that kingdom are much much different from the Israeli white settler european zionists from today. Hell even the Palestinian are closer descendents to them.

[@dudelehhh]

@@hisham_hm this is factual history. Who do you think the Romans conquered it from!?!

[@serinadelmar6012]

Nice one centurion! To quote Monty Python. Excellent choice sir.

[@chrism6539]

You got the part about Saxony completely wrong. When Henry the Lion (Duke of Saxony and Bavaria) tried to resist the Emperor, he was stripped of his titles and the duchy of Saxony was dismantled. The prestiguous title was handed over to Bernhard of Anhalt and later to Frederick of Meißen.

[@Manueltion15]

Make a video on the history of Israel it would be interesting. Also Portugal “I know you want to”

[@markgarin6355]

Realigned or moved borders hardly constitutes a 'move'. That would include everyone.

[@o_s-24]

The Israel section has pretty unfortunate timing... other than that, great video!

[@General.Knowledge]

True, I considered rescheduling the video to another date but since it was a pretty small portion and not directly relating to what's going on now I ended up deciding to keep it in.

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

Don''t worry. Be happy (gay).

[@CTGReviews]

@@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536what

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@General.Knowledge Didn't the Israelites come from northern Iraq before going to the current area? Or is that just in the Bible?

[@tommasopaniccia7551]

​@@johnnyearp52that's just in the Bible, and they weren't "israelites" back then, as Israel = Jacob, and the story of that is before Jacob

[@andrescgomezp]

Is your channel related to Memorias de Pez?

[@jes3d]

do a part 3 with anglosaxons and finnic people (finns and estonians)

[@General.Knowledge]

Finnic people are very interesting! Especially their connection with modern Hungarians; at least in terms of language.

[@vanakhoya]

Nice

[@rustix3]

6:00 "[Saxons] were the one of the 4 main peoples of Germany". Who were the rest 3?

[@sebe2255]

Saxon, Allemanic, Bavarian and Franconian (not the modern day Franken but the actual Franks along the Lower Rhine-Ruhr and Main rivers). Some would also say Thuringi(ans)

[@AltaicGigachad]

In the west the Seljuq invasion of Asia Minor began the process which was to make it the modern land of the Turks and the base from which the greatest Islamic empire of the past 600 years would expand into southeast Europe .

[@PlanetXhypotheses]

Forgot about Czechia, which moved it's peoples and beliefs from the Adriatic sea to it's current position. Also Nigeria, which moved from Yemen and Oman to it's current spot.

[@rockbullet3699]

Rome started out as the city of rome, and ended as Constantinople and most of the Peloponnese

[@thiagojachelli3017]

How about the saxons in nowadays England? We still have the wessex north saxons , Sussex south saxons and such. A topic I like very much also is the lombards

[@joeshar.]

I thought you are also going to explain of Anglo-Saxons in Britain during Saxons part.

[@mysteriousDSF]

I'm Hungarian I think we were mentioned in the previous video, we could be coming from as far away as the Taymyr peninsula of the far north of Eurasia.

[@idanadler1627]

If you mentioned portugal, what about spain? Back then used to be castile, and all the other iberian entities like leon, aragon and catalonia which started on the north of the iberian peninsula and with the reconquista slowly expended south

[@glen4867]

The mormons actually always wanted to be in the United States, this is evidenced by the fact that they first applied for statehood in 1849, just 2 years after settlement in the west began. They never wanted to leave the United States, but they were forced to by their enemies killing them and depriving them of their constitutional rights. The reasons they were denied statehood were purely political and religious. And fun fact, the proposed state of Desetet included parts of 9 different states, but it was whittled down to Utah's current territory to deprive the mormons of the natural resources in other states (ie. when silver was discovered in what is now Colorado and Nevada those areas were removed from the Utah territory).

[@CrippieMannster]

Based!?!?

[@kashundawilliams6173]

🎉 made it! Before 1 hour 😅😊

[@randomname9291]

Great video! Small correction, in the israel segment the kingdoms of David and Solomon were significantly bigger than portrayed here.

[@g.araujo1043]

Its very weird to think Rio de Janeiro was once the capital of an European nation.

[@bilel4496]

FYI: in the Middle Ages as that time, we called Almoravid then after Almohad no Kingdom of Morocco yet…. 17-18 century is the kingdom of Fez and Marrakech.

[@pembrokeshiredan]

If Mauritania counts as a country that moved, so does Benin.

[@scientificnameofpigs]

İ think he talked about Benin in the previous video

[@Brandon_TG_Smith]

Ghana too, because Europeans didn’t care enough to even check if these regions were correct

[@General.Knowledge]

True! I would argue neither count. It's more of a name transfer than anything else.

[@Shaunt1]

Thank you 🙏 for having the Armenia 🇦🇲 one.

[@Orangeler2008]

10:10 I'm 1/16th Cherokee. I've learned about this during either 6th or 7th grade. And just by learning about how they were robbed of their land, it wasn't very good at all. Many of them had to go through the Trail of Tears. A very sad story about how they lost their land to America.

[@ItalMiser117]

You're probably not 1/16th cherokee

[@Orangeler2008]

@@ItalMiser117 I am. My paternal grandmother lived on a reservation in Ohio. She still lives in Ohio, but not there.

[@ItalMiser117]

ahh. alright. i just thought that you're one of the tons of americans who claim to be like 1/128 native american just to be cool. that is especially common with black americans where several people claim to be of native origin @@Orangeler2008

[@Dalmatia_mapping]

wow new animation nice

[@thethunderofwarmachines8374]

I miss so many of the videos because for some reason you can't get notifications. Thanks, KZbin

[@General.Knowledge]

Have you turned them on through the little bell icon up top? We have been getting fewer impressions on the homepage for unknown reasons.

[@lelimanimal]

shareしてくれてありがとうございます。

[@neilgagarin9331]

Romania moved north, Paraguay moved west, Benin moved east and India moved south and doesn't controls any part of the Indo river

[@General.Knowledge]

Yes!

[@Franzi_Ziska]

I heard from someone in lower saxony, someone from the eastfreesean People, that they, in north Germany are still calling the people of lower saxony (Niedersachsen) as Sachsen

[@sebe2255]

Well the Lower Saxons are the actual Saxons

[@Spacemongerr]

PS. Turkic is pronounced Turkik, not Turkitsh. Enjoyed the video :)

[@YamalGaseaRuiz]

you can do also a whole video for Turkey, not the modern Turkey, but also Egypt that was Turkey with Mamlucs, Hungary was Turkey in the past too, The Khazars were Turkey in the past, and many others that I dont remember, so Turkey has been a lot of different countries of Turkic origin or similar in the past not only current Republic of Turkey.

[@gamingcradio]

what is the rules? is it the people that need to move or just the name? because most of your exaples from each video dosent follow one rule, and is talking about to types of "countries" and one disporves the other

[@AllanLimosin]

You can say Saxony extended to Great Britain as Wessex, Sussex and Essex.

[@caldinio]

Angles and saxons to britain

[@General.Knowledge]

And Normans!

[@Tsukonin]

Mauri cannot possibly be an exonym because it's older than the roman era. It's a local Libyan term that sounded similar to a Latin word but has obviously no connection whatsoever.

[@NoxyDoesStuff]

wow

[@lemonicowo]

The Netherlands also used to be what is roughly currently The Netherlands plus Dutch-speaking Belgium: Flanders. They eventually split and became two entirely separate countries, Flanders with Wallonia (the French-speaking part of Belgium) and a small German-speaking part; and The Netherlands as it is today.

[@sebe2255]

The Netherlands also owned what is now Wallonia, and Luxemburg. Not just what is now called Flanders. But that isn’t really moving so much as losing land you barely held for a few decades

[@lemonicowo]

@@sebe2255 Oh my bad, I remembered the part about Wallonia (and Luxembourg) wrong, I figured it must’ve been owned by the French lol.

[@rpoacb]

1:10 💀

[@totre-hv5jb]

talking about Brazil he jumps to the US and says "back to America"

[@7evn112]

With how many flag videos you have, would you ever have a flag for the channel?

[@General.Knowledge]

Sure! We could make one.

[@abc_cba]

ancient Indus Valley Civilization majorly was what today is Pakistan and India in that way switched eastwards as thee West is now Pakistan!

[@uan9166]

Didnt they went to south and formed the Dravidian cultures while in the north they were invaded by Arians?

[@Latias-lx5su]

Yes, please make a video on Jewish History. There are so few videos on it

[@jameswilkins8144]

Please do a video on how current day Israel was formed

[@jetevening9741]

You failed to mention the Armenian genocide by the turks during World War I. “Armenians mostly moved back into the Caucasus regions and the country was reestablished in the 20th century.

[@PanZerV]

Facts bro

[@wannaknowwho25]

good luck future.

[@JLAvey]

Don't forget Mali.

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

I am not a robot.

[@Ayte69]

Why do you sometimes say "Turkik" and sometimes "Turkich"?

[@neeren777]

Turkic* and turkish and its because there are differences. Turkish are people from Turkiye. Turkic are people from Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan etc.

[@General.Knowledge]

My instinct, being a portuguese speaker, is to say "Turkik". I was previously told "Turkich" is the correct pronunciation, but sometimes I forget / slip into the other one.

[@Spacemongerr]

​@@General.Knowledge In English, Turkik is the correct pronunciation. C by itself is never pronounced "tsh" in English, only pronounced as K or S. It is only if it is in combination with H (CH) that it sometimes is pronounced "tsh". Just google Turkic and some of the first results will be dictionaries with pronunciation guide, they all say Turkik ('tər-kik')

[@Nordanatolier55]

The Ottoman Empire were some of the greatest empires for sure.

[@jerk5959]

Admirer of slavers, eh?

[@beentrill8492]

@@jerk5959all great nations had slaves

[@Nordanatolier55]

@@jerk5959 are you serious? Go and learn history! In the mid-age there were slaves a common thing. But still better than europe which were killing all the women because they thought that they were wiches :D

[@svihl666]

10:56 / 11:50

[@almami1599]

The real reason why Mauritania is called that is that in French the Mauritanian ethnic Arab-Berbers called the Beidhan were known in French by colonialist Europeans and other Africans as “LES MAURES” but these Beidhan called the area (Ard al Beidhan or Land of the Beidhan) which was the reason the french colonial ruler of the area newly conquered in 1903 Xavier Coppolani to choose this name

[@user-vg9gk4jz5z]

Do a video about Israel's territorial shift

[@omercarmi5057]

pls do a video about israel. it's a good time to explain about this topic because theres a lot of people who dont know much about it.

[@jameswilkins8144]

Please do a video on the history of the holy lands, including Israel in Palestine, in terms of who ruled the land

[@ahorrell]

Wow, I really expected to see the Hungarians, and maybe the Normans and (Eastern) Romans

[@KiwiFlyer100]

where is the Maori people? they traveled VERY far

[@General.Knowledge]

I can add it in a third part! Also Polynesians in general, moving out from Taiwan and colonizing / populating so much of the Indian and Pacific Oceans.

[@KiwiFlyer100]

cool! im part maori so that would be great!@@General.Knowledge

[@juliosilveira7891]

Deverias fazer a história de Marzagão, a cidade que mudou duas vezes de continente, do Marrocos português ao Maranhão no Brasil.

[@drain4314]

9:00 OHIO 😱😱

[@LAQL31]

Early gang

[@Dionysus784]

cities that changed their names

[@baraalayan1422]

Ahom moved to Assam region in India

[@aleksandarvleminckx5305]

Yes Albania moved by the ottomans from Kaukasus mountains

[@vlad.ff284]

Romania moved multiple times as Dacia. Just search up diocese of Dacia

[@georgiancrossroads]

Yes, do a history of Israel and Palestine.

[@nenenindonu]

The interesting part of "Türkiye's move" is it's continuous ethno-political background of 1500 years ; Western Turkic Khaganate > Oghuz Yabghu State > Great Seljuks > Seljuks of Rum > Anatolian Beyliks & Ottomans > Turkish Republic

[@alistairrodgerfairbrother2479]

I thought Portugal moved to Brazil due to an Earthquake that happened

[@ShnoogleMan]

For Israel you forgot the Judean kingdom in Late Antiquity.

[@FilipeMiaoumiam]

Please don't tell people to go see Johnny Harris videos, that guy is full of s. I know he was a Mormon and I'm sure he has knowledge about that culture to share with the world. But Johnny Harris isn't on KZbin for factual videos, there's a lot of debunk out there calling out on his statements on videos. Is it because he's a bad professional and doesn't go deep enough into researched topics? Or is it because he has his own interests in presenting them the way he does? Some other people digged into his partnerships and discovered he did sponsored videos without advertising it, while spreading the world economic forum's point of view regarding the subject of the video.

[@burnin8orable]

Modern and ancient Israel's borders overlap quite a bit.

[@yonatanshm9353]

I don't know how can such a mistake even be made in a video. The fact that Israel is located on ancient Israel is literally the number 1 reason for it to even exist. Jerusalem conflict, for extra reminder. Plus, usually it's considered as one of the longest continued civilizations in history, Jews never left the region and those who did came back all that stuff. What a weird mistake! It also provokes a set of questions about the political standing of the person in charge...

[@yonatanshm9353]

Also what's Zionism all about?

[@DelijeSerbia]

I mean its basically every single country that gets its name from a tribe...

[@franzo.one.franzo]

what if italy had never united?

[@General.Knowledge]

It's on my list!

[@hookplay7229]

And Germany

[@rogeliovaldez6594]

Mexico

[@valhalla-tupiniquim]

Imagine a Soviet United States of North America and The Capitalist Russian Empire.

[@razmikmnatsakanyan4450]

When Armenians moved to Cilicia, there were no Anadolia at all.

[@TricaGamer]

Golan Heights are Syrian territory, make a good map next time

[@trollface_zombie]

anime kid

[@MohamedRynx8]

@@trollface_zombie 🤡

[@shubhamagarwal8960]

In 10 min

[@Brandon_TG_Smith]

It’s important to know that Philistine isn’t Palestine, Arabs did not exist at that time

[@khalilabushahin418]

Modern Palestinians arnt 100% arab

[@user-oy2zg3bt6n]

weren't the philistines also colonizers? pretty sure stuff like the bible called them a people who came from the sea in addition to their name literally being taked from the Hebrew word for Invaders (Polshim)

[@khalilabushahin418]

@@user-oy2zg3bt6n I wouldn't call the Bible a reliable historic artifact but whatever floats your boat

[@__Cthulhu__]

You know the mormans were desperate since they willingly went to Ohio

[@user-sb7so5zg1j]

Israel in the video The comments: free palestine. The ancient kingdom of israel also held trerrritory in sinai, egypt

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

Egypt is with E.🙏.

[@user-sb7so5zg1j]

@@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536 i know. I used E

[@hookplay7229]

Same to Armenia, when somebody tells something about it even if its not about the war, azerbaijani kids go in

[@user-oy2zg3bt6n]

I'm an israeli and i NEVER heard of ancient Israel holding territory in the sinai. you sure you didn't think of modern israel who did capture the sinai and later traded it for peace with egypt?

[@user-oy2zg3bt6n]

currently this is the first comment saying that the other who say that say either sus timing or please Israel territory history