More on intakes! How to bench tune your saw! a secret!

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THE IRONHORSE

THE IRONHORSE

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@kens.3729
@kens.3729 4 жыл бұрын
You and Buckin’ are Pro’s at Sharpening Saws. Both of you have helped Tens of Thousands of us. Thanks! 👍
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned that 272s are a bit picky or finicky. Just built a 272xp on my channel and it proved to be a bit more of a porting chllenge then any of the 266 builds I've done.. And yep 200 series saws get intake leaks , at least 2 out of the last 4 I've built have!!!
@skipmathews3110
@skipmathews3110 4 жыл бұрын
You ain’t kidding Uncle, thank you and thanks to you and Buckn’ for helping us, I don’t much wanna watch anyone else. Don’t need to, you guys say it true and straight. We benefit from your experience and I’m awful thankful! YOU ARE HELPING SO MUCH!
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's very narrow minded thinking but they are both very good teachers and I have learned a metric ton from both of them
@philliplucion8933
@philliplucion8933 4 жыл бұрын
Think it's funny how much I have learned about saws when ol timers are like that young man can make a saw sling 2*4 and all have done is watch you iron horse and buckin for a few yrs now and man it has put me at another level thinks mill for all y'all hard work and your teaching awesome dudes
@joshuajohnson4396
@joshuajohnson4396 2 жыл бұрын
You and Buckin both are just Awesome. Thank you for being you and not a selfish person.
@chuck805
@chuck805 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Harv for keeping us educated and entertained. Nice looking muffler cover ya got there. You, your son and Wife continue to be safe as you have soooooo much to teach us.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 жыл бұрын
I still use the standard Stihl Service Manual routine on my big saws - set the rpm at 3300, lean out the L for max rpm, nte 3700, and then richen up to specified idle rpm. H I set with a tach to give me a slight four stroke. I do try to limit my H rpm to 12,600 to 12,800 on everything. I may later richen up the H, depending on how it acts in the cut as they break in. I do not put a new saw in the wood until it has at least five tanks of gas on it and limit it to one tank a day. After it has 15 tanks on it I will use it until the chain gets dull or I am dead tired. With as much sand that we have around here the former usually ends it’s day.
@kwspreu
@kwspreu 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment I ever heard on sharpening, "I take what I have to take." Probably because that's my way of going about it also.
@Lifeinthe906
@Lifeinthe906 4 жыл бұрын
Keep feeding us the knowledge Harv! Thank you sir
@Smokey66s
@Smokey66s 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps some day, a video on tuning a saw with a tach for those of us that do not have the ear for it? There are a few videos on tach tuning but none have the attention to details that you cover. Really enjoy your videos and appreciate your expertise.
@stevetaylor510
@stevetaylor510 3 жыл бұрын
Building saws in Louisiana putting them together is simple,getting them tuned for cutting is where the saw either works or falls on its face.Your saw tales make a real difference when chasing gremlins. Ask and the information comes out. Building 372’s homelite, McCullough,Poulan and a P62 partner pioneer seventy cc is get in the door and honestly, without you fella’s insight Iwould. Have pulled myself bald . I understand the notion it can’t leave till it’s right. Parts are another letter and some prayers to get those little items. Thanks for your willingness to pass the knowledge on down the line. By the way happy birthday Harv. I know it’s a couple days late but a fella that our age take longer to. Write a letter. You got me by three months and change. This is supposed to be fun but they did not mention the aches and muscle behaving like those saws. Take care and look forward to saw tales.
@tazman-kennyfuller
@tazman-kennyfuller 4 жыл бұрын
Great tuning tips filin and carb tuning. Love it guys. Hey Cullen nice work buddy hehe love you guys. Thank you. 🌲❤🌲✊
@stinthedude
@stinthedude 4 жыл бұрын
Been following buckin for a long time, he was the guy who'd tell you a bit about how to maintain and tune a saw. I love your saws hes runnin so I came over to say hello. Glad I did! 💪
@jolkraeremeark6949
@jolkraeremeark6949 4 жыл бұрын
Got a Husky from a guy who said it needed a new carb. All it needed was the spark arrestor cleaned and now it runs great! Just wish I would've looked at the arrestor before ordering the carb......
@VTwreckognize
@VTwreckognize 4 жыл бұрын
I have two 61s and a jonsered 630 with perpetual intake problems, this was very helpful
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 4 жыл бұрын
I have got into the habit to use a vacuum pressure hand pump to check the saw before I even put gas into the machine. That way I just do not have all the problems you are talking about. Good information on how to apply the gasket sealer. Most people just glob too much sealant and clog the small holes. Good information for the average saw fella. VF
@rogervandergriff1851
@rogervandergriff1851 3 жыл бұрын
I get a. alot of great information from you, I really appreciate what you do!!!
@billcramer9047
@billcramer9047 4 жыл бұрын
302 dz I'd love to see you build that motor out .You are a great man ,I have learned a whole bunch from you .thank you.
@advancednutritioninc908
@advancednutritioninc908 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Well explained!! good info!! Thank You I liked the way you showed how to tune your saw!! Liked !!
@kennethmaas6473
@kennethmaas6473 4 жыл бұрын
THANKS Harvey. You the man I like the idea of putting the impulse line on when the cylinder is off that is a good fix. Kenny from texas. THANKS Iornhorse.
@matthewclarke7993
@matthewclarke7993 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Harvey that was a world of information thanks
@1944chevytruck
@1944chevytruck 4 жыл бұрын
TOP SECRET! LOLOL!!!... GOOD ONE! UNIQUE MUFFLER! great info as always! thanks 4 video. be kind.
@keithwesley9880
@keithwesley9880 3 жыл бұрын
It's the rams horn muffler, I have the stuff to make one and ima make it tomorrow.. all i needed to hear was thy pull, now ima put it together... I love the way thy sound, it has a lil bit of pinging sound..
@eucalyptusleemcconnell8314
@eucalyptusleemcconnell8314 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful uncle Harvey I enjoy every minute of you're video's mate
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
I usually take the same number of strokes on my chains but if I have one that is not sharp when I am through, I hit it with enough dditional links to get it sharp. My rakers are set a little hungry, so I do not have to file them every time I sharpen the chain. I am looking for a spark plug gap between the cutter and the raker. If I do not see that, I hit the rakers a few licks with my raker file. I do slope the rakers after I am through filing it, to keep down chatter. My chains are sharp and will cut.
@andysmith9457
@andysmith9457 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I bought one of the last available 365s so I can look after it myself for the next 15yrs or so. Crux of that plan is me knowing what I'm doing. Very helpful vid. 👍
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 жыл бұрын
That’s an ‘80 era husky. I had a similar chain break on one of my mid ‘80’s Poulans, 395, I think. It was a good saw, about 38 cc with a 16 inch bar and 3/8 chain. It was my favorite saw because it always started with a minimal amount of pulls. I can’t tell you how many times it rode of my tractor with me, down by the clutch of my 7740 with its scabbard on the bar. I do the same on standoffs with 1184. I use Dirko HT on base gaskets and 1184 on everything else.
@joncanary4778
@joncanary4778 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Harvey. Get help and wonderful instruction. Just adjusted an old 266 today with the old Tillison on it. Worked great. Thanks
@mattsfirewoodvideos738
@mattsfirewoodvideos738 4 жыл бұрын
Great video you are a very knowledgeable man
@billybowen3023
@billybowen3023 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see I'm not the only one who has problems! Thank you for helping me keep my head you and keeping me thinking! 👍
@MsJhook
@MsJhook 2 жыл бұрын
We all have them but there is a solution.
@daninuesca3801
@daninuesca3801 4 жыл бұрын
Ironhorse those saws are sounding nice & crispy!ALOHA! 🤙🏾
@seather863
@seather863 4 жыл бұрын
Another kick ass video from Ironhorse!
@RIVERRATEXCURSIONS
@RIVERRATEXCURSIONS 3 жыл бұрын
Iron horse I love saws as much as I love my small block chevy's it was awesome to here your comment about the 302 tons of people would tell you you are crazy and a 302 is a ford motor. I'm 33 so not near the experience in life or the amount of knowledge you have but was just wondering if you knew how they came up with the 302. It's actually a destroked 327 they make kits you can buy with the short skirt pistons and knew crank and rods and put one together with a 327 block the cast is the same. Anyway I just figured I would bend your ear a little and if you didn't know I figured you would appreciate knowing a young buck was listening to ya and had a little knowledge of his own. Thanks so much for your videos you and buckin have made my life so much better.
@theironhorse6600
@theironhorse6600 3 жыл бұрын
A poor mans chevy 302 is a small journal 327 with a 283 crank. Turns up very quick!
@patrickallred850
@patrickallred850 4 жыл бұрын
You can get oem 272 parts from Husqvarna dealer.. They still make the saw in Brazil
@andrewk332
@andrewk332 4 жыл бұрын
My saws are Always sharp except for when they are dull. I got a good chuckle on that one
@alexandergraham9951
@alexandergraham9951 3 жыл бұрын
Well done big man your knowledge is priceless
@Finom1
@Finom1 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you Ironhorse for all you do for us. We love you Ironhorse!!!
@guysaul6212
@guysaul6212 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you insight on tunning, !
@Chumlee1000
@Chumlee1000 3 жыл бұрын
I use copper coat. Spray one side let dry, then spray other side and let dry. Even when dry it still has a tacky sticky feeling. I have made thinner base gaskets this way to reduce squish. Used it on 8n ford head gasket. Work like a champ. Been running for years.
@justintothetruth
@justintothetruth 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, the CC do ABSOLUTELY not have any idea what he’s saying. Naturally I subbed.
@yellerdawg418
@yellerdawg418 3 жыл бұрын
I have one as well. 302 that came out of a boat 1970.
@stevetheriault4164
@stevetheriault4164 4 жыл бұрын
Lol so you sweet talk them into running great ,IRONHORSE the chainsaw WHISPERER just joking buddy thanks for the tips , be safe guys
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
When I adjust a saw I want to hear it maintain the same RPM throughout the cut. If it starts dropping, I will adjust it until it does not drop off in the cut. I bench tune my saws pretty good before I check them out in the wood. I do check my saws afterwards to make sure they do not exceed my 12,600-12,800 at WFO.
@henryhutchinson764
@henryhutchinson764 4 жыл бұрын
Great video..it answered my question on putting sealer on the carb block ..thanks boss 👍
@shahriariran44
@shahriariran44 4 жыл бұрын
I use the same glue for cilender heads only its Mazda glue and its gray but I'm sure its the same, almost for most parts that need s good seal even after I get them back from the chiseler it just needs a touch of that glue .what you just showed in this video is so so important. ❤
@gustavogartner3145
@gustavogartner3145 2 жыл бұрын
Gracias Don Caballo de Hierro ...un abrazo desde Argentina.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 жыл бұрын
I agree about letting RTV set over night. I will put a saw together but I will not try to crank it until after my 1184 has set overnight. I cringe every time Insee a builder assemble a saw and crank it up after it is fully assembled, 30 minutes later.
@donsmith3314
@donsmith3314 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that good sir! I now have some other things to look at and try! Awesome info for a guy like me!
@timberray9572
@timberray9572 4 жыл бұрын
Now that would be a cool unveiling video, just start up the saw and let it run till the paper burns off.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 3 жыл бұрын
Mine are always sharp, too. I put a brand new LGX on my 460 and the rakers on the right side were way out of spec - to tall. It would not cut a straight line right out of the box. I filed them down but I put an RS chain on the 460 and hung the LGX in the shop. It is back to spec, now, but I check every chain, now
@Sensei948
@Sensei948 2 жыл бұрын
oil mix 1:33 is ok?
@jeffreyrubish347
@jeffreyrubish347 4 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty fancy "Top Secret" muffler cover you got there 😉
@matthewscantland85
@matthewscantland85 4 жыл бұрын
Good info thanks Mr Harve!! I’m going to try and build a old Dayton. It’s like a poulan 245a 74cc with the Reed valves.
@jeffreyrubish347
@jeffreyrubish347 4 жыл бұрын
Talking about waiting for a brainstorm, the last brainstorm I had, lightening knocked out my signal 🤣
@takeashawnoutdoors5518
@takeashawnoutdoors5518 3 жыл бұрын
That's great info. Thank you, I enjoy your videos.
@jeramiahshaffer8414
@jeramiahshaffer8414 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Harv I’ve been having issues with my 272 for some time now and I think you may have the solution to the issue is an air leak
@aaronrickard4675
@aaronrickard4675 3 жыл бұрын
Regular ol' Bob Ross of RTV
@mikeh7160
@mikeh7160 4 жыл бұрын
Great video once again fellas, stay safe
@woodpeckerarborist
@woodpeckerarborist 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ironhorse, really helpful!
@petehendry4756
@petehendry4756 4 жыл бұрын
Great video harv ! Lots of good information!!!
@jmacca27
@jmacca27 4 жыл бұрын
Looking good Harv!
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 3 жыл бұрын
That’s right, the bean counters run companies, today, and not the engineers. You see it in everything, cars, chainsaws, tools and even axes. They are made to look like the older stuff, but they are cheapened in the areas that make them dependable products. I will take my 50 year old True Temper axes over any of the junk sold by Collins, today. I bought a Collins Boys axe a month or so ago and spent a few hours removing the safety information and eat your hands up polyurethane finish from the handle and replacing it with a Danish Oil and linseed oil finish. Now, it is a pretty good axe. I do not like it’s stainless axe head because stainless is softer than a good carbon steel and won’t hold an edge. It will also chip worse than carbon steel.
@StumpjumperVideosPA
@StumpjumperVideosPA 4 жыл бұрын
boy she sounds crispy !!!
@stevebillow395
@stevebillow395 4 жыл бұрын
Hey bud, iv been around mod saws a little and been told about your port work being top notch work. I'm licking around the idea of getting another saw worked up, if your interested in doing some saw work get back with me and we can work out the bugs.
@StumpjumperVideosPA
@StumpjumperVideosPA 4 жыл бұрын
we used to call it the flutter on the high jet !
@robertshoemaker6204
@robertshoemaker6204 4 жыл бұрын
Have a question, have a 266XP same era(made in 1987) as the 61 your building. Have a problem took the chain brake apart was so fifty and gummed up, cleaned it up but now having a difficult time installing the heavy spring again, how do I compress it and get it back into position so I can install the chain brake band, really could use some help, Thank you Shoe...South Western Oregon logger...
@heavymechanic2
@heavymechanic2 3 жыл бұрын
You said the quality has changed, the OEM is more interested in selling parts and replacement saws. Back in the day, stuff was made to last and the EPA was not a concern. I'm in the US
@mautoban66
@mautoban66 3 жыл бұрын
12:30 because I am not a native English speaker I have to repeat listening again again 😁 17:25
@beckydavis566
@beckydavis566 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy you got a haircut. Looking good 😊😉
@pinecone5058
@pinecone5058 4 жыл бұрын
One day I hope to own a saw that you ported, in my area nobody even knows what ported means, (ported, oh you got it from China, ported here to us lol) thanks for your time
@jasonsayre8102
@jasonsayre8102 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I want to learn as much as i can. Been hooked on 2- strokes since my first dirtbike, now I'm really into chainsaws. I tend to work on more Stihl saws. Can you recommend some good aftermarket brands or places to buy cranks, and piston and cylinders? Seems like there is alot of junk out there, but I know some are just as good as oem. Not sure which ones though, especially cranks and bearings. Thanks for all the great videos, stay safe and healthy!
@closertothetruth9209
@closertothetruth9209 3 жыл бұрын
Back for my daily dose of sanity, top secret cover on the muffler was funny
@tomkrise4632
@tomkrise4632 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video iron horse!
@gregorydobson4307
@gregorydobson4307 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos as I've watched most of yours perticular on porting, you are the master. Question is I can't find anything on porting the ms441, can you help please. Driving me mad right now !!
@timothybyrom5560
@timothybyrom5560 3 жыл бұрын
All that good sealer, like yamabond. Is made by 3M. It's called 3 bond. The grey is the best. I've used it to seal up gas tanks. I've got a 245 poulan that's had that sealing the seam on the tank for 10 years or more. Costs a little extra, but it's worth it. They got 2 kinds. The stuff with mk in it- usually a little thinner, and the kind without.
@ericlakota6512
@ericlakota6512 3 жыл бұрын
Love those old 272 breaks
@liamcarvet8374
@liamcarvet8374 3 жыл бұрын
Cat had enough lol
@ronbrown2770
@ronbrown2770 3 жыл бұрын
I'll give you my little secret to sealing up a 2 stroke intake with plastic manifolds. Aluminum HVAC tape. Put the sticky side of the tape on the manifold and just cut out what needs to go, Works better than stock paper gaskets and has enough crush for a good seal. 80% of all crapy running saws are intake leaks, anytime you can't easily dial in a good tune on a warmed up saw it's most likely an intake leak. I've seen guys throw money at saws replacing shit that had nothing to do with what was wrong. Pressure test won't verify some leaks but if you use the Aluminum tape on the plastic intakes they won't leak.
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what, can this be true, I mean, amazing if it is. But its perhaps a little thin, what if I layer the tape onto itself so I skip the sticky side all together
@ronbrown2770
@ronbrown2770 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaslindroos1667 That is too much glue and the fuel will just wash it out. One layer is all that is needed Flaten the mating surfaces clean them stick the tape to the manifold cut away the impulse transfers if there is one cut out the port, I usually just cut an X in the bolt holes, doing this holds the bolts in place snug it all up. I use 12 inch-pounds snug then finish 16-18 inches final I know it seems low but going much more trashes the manifold, blue loc-tite but just a dab. I run my old 266xp this way because nothing else ever worked for more than a few tanks of fuel. That 30-year-old saw pulls chain like crazy. Ported with dome piston base gasket deleted stock carb open pipe. I don't run it without earplugs.
@jamiedalluge9472
@jamiedalluge9472 4 жыл бұрын
The dz302 Camaro engine's r definitely badass and worth a good buck
@davidberrier5894
@davidberrier5894 3 жыл бұрын
302 was 1st high rpm motors
@jasonasian3950
@jasonasian3950 Жыл бұрын
I have a Husqvarna 455 rancher everybody told me that it's a junk saw had it for years been a good farm saw for cutting firewood just would like to get a little bit more rap out of it any ideas
@richpitty
@richpitty 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the bbr goat horn exhaust as a welder it’s not out of my realm but I’m curious as to how splitting the exhaust port into to pipes helps? Unless you’ve made a splice at the head like a turbo flange that’s the only part that I don’t get if you went two pipes into one at the exhaust port that makes sense but splitting the exhaust doesn’t make sense. I’m just curious how you did the flange
@robertjustice641
@robertjustice641 3 жыл бұрын
Why so meny commercials
@davidfarber7542
@davidfarber7542 Жыл бұрын
Great thanks!
@darrennovak6582
@darrennovak6582 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx great info, love the tuning, kiss.
@ansonnyoung343
@ansonnyoung343 4 жыл бұрын
Love the work harv
@timbarden4578
@timbarden4578 4 жыл бұрын
Got that cat moving quick once u fired that saw up.lol.nice running saw.b nice firewood saw.too old to abuse logging. Gotta save those old girls getting rare.
@dackerson5
@dackerson5 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Harvey, what if you get heavier gasket material, trace and cut it out. Will that work? Or is it defeating the purpose? Or using the gasket sealer is the best?
@jetskechers5354
@jetskechers5354 3 жыл бұрын
15:50 adjustment secret;)
@scottmoore5904
@scottmoore5904 4 жыл бұрын
hello from canada i was wondering if you have ever worked on a old dolmar 133 super ..
@ryansmith4401
@ryansmith4401 4 жыл бұрын
I'm taking a 394xp apart to rebuild. I've never done this before. I was wondering how I tell if it needs a new crank
@donmathias1705
@donmathias1705 4 жыл бұрын
You have sharpened more saws than I have had hot breakfasts but one old fella told me not to draw the teeth towards the saw when your are advancing the chain for sharpening. Push the chain away from you. Why, because if you slip and are unlucky enough to contact the chain, at least you will be contacting the back of the chain and not the super sharp hooks.
@gusbuster8068
@gusbuster8068 4 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend using the gasket sealant on a Husky 2100? I’m thinking about using it for the head base gasket on my old saw.
@jonathanharsch3243
@jonathanharsch3243 4 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to set your idel screw before or after your low jet
@kyledavidson1824
@kyledavidson1824 4 жыл бұрын
We need a part 2 in the cut tuning thanks
@kerrysaunders3685
@kerrysaunders3685 3 жыл бұрын
How fast would a stock 254 rev approximately?
@buddyhoffman164
@buddyhoffman164 4 жыл бұрын
Hey iron horse I've got a 394 that needs a little tuning and and played around with would you possibly be able to do it for me it's my favorite saw so I'm picky who deals with it could you do it for me
@stephenhaney661
@stephenhaney661 4 жыл бұрын
Good video
@kevinpilkington6527
@kevinpilkington6527 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Harv, I've got a couple AZ blocks and a D which 302 chevys do you have? I love mine! They tend to git it all real quick and in a hurry and it is hard to git em away from injection but a Quadrajet will work if its super clean and jetted a touch...lol...old school muscle, Thanks Harv
@theironhorse6600
@theironhorse6600 4 жыл бұрын
Mine are both 1968 dz! One is set up from the factory for scca racing! It has the 2 4 barrel setup! One over each valve cover! The other has the original 850 double pumper!
@kevinpilkington6527
@kevinpilkington6527 4 жыл бұрын
@@theironhorse6600 10/4 Harv, Great Stuff! I git ' talkin' about em and I'll rattle fer hours..lol. Thanks again fer remindin about Old School Muscle... some folks never knew and thought if you say 302 chevy yer crazy...lmao..Great Day Harv, till later, Kev
@DeezNuts-xo2ee
@DeezNuts-xo2ee 4 жыл бұрын
Can i send you an old jonsered 625 series 2 to work your magic? It runs just acts up on me it does need a plastic mount on thr carb
@mntstalker27
@mntstalker27 4 жыл бұрын
I want one of these rams horns on my 372xp
@patarmentrout9388
@patarmentrout9388 4 жыл бұрын
Just leave that left suspender unhooked, I do
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